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Theyre cheap here, but not all have heated seats..
Nice car, I think it looks great in Black myself.
Bill
Thats not a good resale color. Brilliant Silver, Smoke Silver (Now aka Desert Silver) Black up north.. they always do well.
Reds, Blues, Greens are more to the whims of the market.
Bill
Wish ya had posted that yesterday! There was one out there today!
Bill
Bill
Has one cosmetic parking block rash on the lower driver's side front fascia, will fix as part of a package deal on some minor work getting done on my 67 Galaxie 500 XL convertible.
Love the car, but local Chrysler dealer is already offering 2002 300M's at $6,500 off list, and would be nice to have leather and heated seats.
Paid $20,400 brand new ($6,500 off list) about 13 months ago, I'm guessing around $15,000 trade, which means it ain't going to happen.
P.S. Wish they still made the Galaxie, only with some modern conveniences. Can fix that car with a K-mart tool kit.
Terry likes this more than I do.
I like it at no more than $9K. $8,500 hit me in the head.
Bill
$3,400? And a good deal on the new?
A) Grab Checkbook.
C) Drive new car home.
D) Be happy because they paid ya $400 over market for your trade and ya did well on the new car.
Bill
I'm about to ruin your day I'm afraid.
Feel free to throw bricks this way, I'll duck..
$15,000? Umm.. umm...
No.
Youre closer to $12,500-13K 'on a push' methinks. I'd like to see Terry hit it tho.
Sorry...
Bill
I had one for about 3 months, loved it!.GREAT road car..!
It's the right color -- What, No leather..? No heated seats..? No Infinity..?
Now I know why your trading.. If you are lookin' at a 300M make sure you test drive one..WITH and Without a sport suspension, you may not prefer one - personally I didn't like it with...Go to Spitzer, they will let you drive one, til' the cows comes home ...
Donnie, will probably hit this vehicle around $13ish..it's got the slider and no miles.
Terry.
Terry.
1. The paint on the hood and the sunroof have faded to a dull red compared to the rest of the car.
2. There are some rust bubbles on the lower part of both doors
3. The hatch squeaks constantly (owner says that she will replaced the hatch support pillars (which don't work anymore).
4. The tires need to be replaced (owner says that she will do this before Saturday).
The car has a whole wad of service records (mostly oil changes) and the timing belt was replaced at 100,000 miles. The car now has 150,000 miles. We somewhat settled on the $2600-$2,750 range with new tires and the squeaking gone by Saturday. This is contingent upon my visual inspection on Saturday during the daytime. She said she had been offered about $1000 on trade by dealers and the car has been on the market for about 2 months with no serious takers. So where do I go from here? I am going to talk to my body shop about repainting later today. Thanks in advance!
Love the car, has all the performance parts of the 300M with the sports package, but the $5,000 between the R/T and the 300M is mostly in the interior. Didn't offer leather or infinity in the R/T until 2001, as 2000 was the first model year for one. Coming from a 92 Taurus, it was an stunning step up.
Thing will haul, had it over 100 mph and still pulling hard when I started worrying about Ohio's finest....
Now I know why my buddies always buy 2 year old domestics, and drive the heck out of them. We are all accountants, so depreciation is near and dear to our hearts!
And the hood and sunroof may rub out or buff back to a decent shine. I'd try this before repainting. Upper-facing surfaces oxidize first, but that doesn't mean the paint is no longer good.
drove it 1 yr. in NY. Put in ditch 3 times.
Decided she wanted a suv (Tracker). Mr dealer
said $500.124k miles, fancy wheels, cold ac
hand shaker, roof, alarm nice shape....
Seen the prices here...I Told her:
She put in paper (big Add)$3500...3 people
fighting over it ! She got $4200 cash !!!!
Thanks bill and co. from alyce !!!
Off the top of my stupid head: Sears is having a big sale on tires right now, 4 for $140 bucks
If the paint wasn't a little faded, I would be a little suspect. -- The rust bubbles can be sanded out, filled and shot for $50/60 bucks. A quality detailer can have that rest of the thing lookin' like a diamond for around $80.
The back hatch is a Squeekin' .. they all do that (just ask a Aztek owner..l.o.l), and can be adjusted somewhat for $50 bucks or less.
You give me about 5 hrs: on a detail, with a high speed buffer and some X-14 glaze, a trip to Sears for new tires and a oil change..and the adjustment on the hatch -- BINGO = $4950..and I will take $4,1/$4,3/$4,500 .... and not a penny less -- It would look like the Lemmings running to the sea, on this car.
All kidding aside, remember, this is going to be your vehicle .. not ours. So you must be happy with it today, tommorow and next month --- Have them take off the $2/$3/$400 (if that what makes you happy) ... and go from there..
Good Luck...and I want a report in the morning!
Terry.
ps. you are welcome Alyce.
Remember if you trade in Ohio, you pay tax on the difference..right..?
To use a number..if they hit you at $13, you would save $7/$8/$900 just on the tax... depending on the county... then your at just about $14 .. sounds good to me.
Good hunting...
Terry.
Terry, I get your message about not stressing out over a couple of hundred bucks and agree. Thank you for the wonderful advice about fixing it up. I will report back when I have more info.
I was wondering what I can expect a clean 99 A4 to do at auction.
Thanks
Thanks again.
I'm trying to purchase a 2001 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro 5spd. I've been dealing with a guy who says he can source them at a dealer's auction (Mannheim Atlanta Auto Auction, to be specific). He will buy the car for an $800 flat fee.
He has been faxing me copies of the pre-sales inventory and says that I can check the cars out ahead of time, but cannot be present the day of the auction.
A couple of things make a bit hinkey about getting into bed with this guy. First, the prices for the above mentioned car--he says they are going for about 26.5K across the block. That seems pretty high to me. When challenged, he says "well, that's for an automatic, a standard will be a few thousand less".
Second, when I asked about being present at the auction, he says that they used to allow it, but some buyers brought some kids with them who got hurt and it was an insurance thing, so NOW the Auction doesn't allow 'outsiders'.
Now both these things sound pretty fishy to me. In fact, I think I'm answering my own question here, but I'd like to get your advice--are 'outsiders' ever allowed to attend these auctions? Are the prices quoted anywhere near what these cars are doing across the block?
Thanks in advance!
Jon
Equipment? (I.E. Is anything glaring mising like a roof or leather?)
Bill
Maybe he meant a 2.8?
1.8T Quattros.. 01s.. those are not common cars either. Manheim Market Report shows 3 being sold last month.
Nationwide.
And hes right about retail customers. Could he get away with it? Prolly. Do you guys often tend to say the wrong things a lot while youre at the sale and can we get banned for bringing you in?
Yup.
Bill
Just curious.
Quentin
The other thing is that the price he's quoting seems high. I was specific about the 1.8 model (and I thought he was too).
I can see some benefit to buying at auction, but I also see some serious risk. I'm just trying to calculate the balance here. All in all, I'd rather spend an extra grand or two and deal with someone straight up.
1999 Olds Alero GL 2-door
4 cylinder, automatic
Red w/Pewter cloth
Sunroof, CD & cassette combo
Cruise, power windows/locks, all usual GL gizmos except keyless entry (early production model)
5K on the tires, recent brake work
57K miles
No paintwork, a couple of dings and gravel spots on the hood (and one on windshield)
Decent cosmetically for the miles
Now, I know this car is no jewel as described, but there's more. Major moaning from the rear bodywork on acceleration. Wind noise from sunroof. Plus the "recirculate" setting on the A/C works sporadically.
I really want to trade this car because I can't imagine much interest in a private sale. What can I expect from a mainstream import house? (I'm in Texas.) Thanks!
Terry.
Can you pull it up to your mike..? I got these new Boston Accustic speakers, I might be able to tell whats wrong with it.
It's got lot's of miles, I can hear that part from here...it's got new tires, Ooooh and they look good too.
But, there is a bunch of these coming off lease right now, and yours is 4 banger, and a Coupe .... Soooo, you are in and around a a $6ish figure...
Hey don't yell at me .. Bill told me to say all that...l.o.l.
Terry.
Order a set of Dunlop SP20s or something from the tire rack and have em installed. $40/ea or so.
Bill
Who'd prolly put Pirellis on it
;-D
I agree. $6K on that Alero.
Bill
I'm prolly gonna take this in trade...
2000 S500 Brilliant Silver/Ash Etc.. Nice car, no paint, fresh Conti CH95s..etc. Bunch of stone chips on the hood because.
Odometer: 85,756
I figured it for $35K.. I dont even know what the heck to DO with the stupid thing tho.
Bill
Bill
"How much can you buy me that car for?"
ad nauseum.
Again, I hate to sound condescending, and you guys know I'm not normally so (Unless ya piss me off
And if you get blacklisted from the auctions... ouch.
As far as buying there, as logn as you know what youre doing.. youre fine.
Bill
2.8 6 cylinder Quattro
Silver
Tiptronic
Loaded - roof, leather, etc.
Handshaker
Florida car
Thanks for your help...
If you really want to know.. shoot me a mail.
Bill
Figure $20-21K across the block or so if its really nice.
Bill
I am looking at a Buick Rendevous, had a dealer willing to sell it to me for $49 over invoice. He asked me what I wanted for my trade, and I told him 13,500. He told me if I was willing to pay more for the Buick, he could give me 13,500 for my trade. I just laughed and said the money's the same either way, and walked out. I just wish dealers would just be up front and tell me I am being unrealistic instead of trying to move figures around and pay their price... I got a laugh out of it at-least.
thanks in advance
Where do these people go to rack up that kind of mileage on a 2000 MB??!!
If it was registered in the fall of 1999, it's about 24 months old - you're talking 3,500 miles per month. Even our sales reps don't do that kind of mileage - then again maybe they should!!
Gheeeez..85 klicks, well if it's all there and it's the right color ..and nice with the new Cont's and all..
I think you are waaaaay back, about $20 grand back of rough ...
I think that dog will hunt...!
I don't have a NADA in front of me, but it's gotta loan ...$55 plus plus plus...?
Terry
Quick question. How related, if at all, are lease buyouts from financing company to wholesale and retail auto price?
I'm looking at Saab 9-3's - 1999. Lots coming off lease. Have spoken to no less than 7 people in the past month who told me that the financing company is willing to sell them their cars at $12-13K depending upon mileage.
Understand there are lots of factors as to why financing company wants to unload the cars. However, I wonder if this indicates current wholesale value, and therefore a few thousand $$ above that would be reasonable asking price for car.
Thx.
I know Bill and a bunch of other dealers won't take "outsiders" to them ---- and now I understand why.
Last summer at ATL, Dallas and Denver I saw a number of Dealers with PHD's (Poppa has a Dealership) go to the auctions, with their "Hood ornaments"..Lady friends. These guys stand in the lanes, with 15/20/25 bidders and point out to their G/F, well this is worth this ..and that is worth that --- The whole time, the auctioneer is using them as "bidder".. if your hands are moving and you are pointing things out - Bang there is $100 and another $100..etc, etc,
2 off these guys are bared forever, and I think may know 1 of them out of Dallas ..(Huge Ford store)
Well anyway, it just happened to me...3 weeks ago. I take a friend (hmmm) .. some bigshot DR. to grab him a Benz, well he's all over the place -- I told him twice, in the car --"Don't stand in the Lanes" --- Don't, not even get close!
He's standing in the doorway... talking away in the truck lanes -- it kinda got pointed out to me (ouch..!)
It's bad enough to have the rookies in there, bidding all the way up to $20 grand on a $30,000 vehicle, Sooooo, I'm sure they didn't appreciate my DR. friend in there being a Jerk.
I don't tell him how to do "brain surgery" .. I surely don't need him telling me or other dealers, what the value of vehicles are ... it was a little embarrassing, so say the least.
Red in the face ...
Terry.
Well let's go for the Gusto, and say it's a 4WD ---
Ooooh, a bunch of miles here -- Do you own a S500 too...?
Well my friend ... you will probably laugh at me to on this -- these are nice vehicles and such, and this one is all loaded up..with all the stuff.
But, all those miles are killing it... this is about a $11,500ish vehicle..and that's if it's a 4WD. I'm buying Clean to the bone, LT's with 25K for just shy of $13 ...Sorry.
Terry.
Nice truck it sounds like, but the miles just kill it.
They do sell, they are nice and all, and yours is all loaded up, but I musta seen 20 of them today alone. Gimme a week, and I bet I could buy 50-100 98 LTs.
So the miley ones go cheap. I think That $12,000 is totally killing it to death. I'd be around $11K myself, but Terry is up there where the fluffy stuff comes down so he likes it more than I
Sorry...
Bill
SAABs go real cheap at the sales.
If I have $15-16K in my pocket I can buy a 99 9-3 Ragtop or a base 99 9-5.
Sedans? $12K... MAYBE $13K I think, but thats nearly killing them.
Can you buy a nice Sedan for $15K or less retail with good miles? Hells Yeah!
Bill
Its a guy I know well I've sold him 12 cars, just sold him an XKR ragtop, we've got a heck of a rapore.. Hes probably the only guy I'll go out and buy a $60K car for on a phone call.
Hes paid me for the XKR, but I'll cut him the cash back for the S if I can get him something for it, and I'm keeping the deal "open" for the next few days to reflect this. Hes a developer, lives in Orlando, runs back and forth between here and South Florida at least 1 time a week, also ends up running to the Tampa Area 2+ times a week. He bought it in April of 1999, so he's coming up on 3 years actually. (It was one of the first in Florida).
That'll do it!His 99 Range Rover 4.6HSE that I sold him last year with 12K on it already has like 55K on it.
Bill
Details on the sedan:
2000 323ia, black with grey guts, steptronic AT, 13,000 miles (1 owner, a women who moved to NYC). Car looks like new. Features include;
Sport/premium package (seats, suspension, wood, leather)
Moonroof
Xenons
heated seats
CD
Original MSRP $35,740
Local used car dealer has it for $26,995.
Is the 24K trade est still legit with all the options at this mileage? And what would realistic retail be (considering its not a BMW certified car with the warranty).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.