" And don't look back. It might be gaining on you. "
You must have just seen the commercial with the guy riding his mountain bike down the mountain and his cholesterol number of 270 catching up with him...LOL
I just purchased an '04 Tacoma (loaded) LOVELY vehicle, great price. I s/b happy right, wrong - The seller just paid off the Lien thru Toyota and is awaiting the Title. The notary says ownership transfer has to wait for the Title. I live in the state of PA.
Must I wait for him to receive the title to get my vehicle? What can I do??
Have you told the key story recently? Can you link to it? I am curious now. Apparently many others have heard the story, and I'll be banned just for asking!
This is the situation that I am in. I am purchasing a new 2005 Acua TSX auto without Navi, sticker price is $37,500 ( Cdn). I am trading in a 2000 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro. There is no Acura dealer in the town I live in, and only two within driving distance. One is 1.5 hours drive away, the other is 4 hours drive.
I began dealing with dealer A (the closer one) and they offered me $11k (which I thoguht was low) for my trade and sticker on the new one. I went to this dealer in person. Dealer B offered me same price on new car and $14k for my trade based on seeing it. My trade is in near mint condition, certainly nothing a deler could honeslty worry about.
Dealer A called me back to check and I reported excactly what Dealer B had offered, he got a little upset and claimed that when I drove the 4 hours they would not offer the same deal and change it.
I want the deal that B offered, I don't want to drive 4 hours down and 4 hours back for nothing, I know they won't sign the deal without seeing my car first, is there anything that I can do ??
Thanks, guys. If I were looking for a 'vette, I might do more in-depth research. But, since it's not going to be mine, I'll "go with the flow" and get a free Atlantic City trip out of the deal.
I'll just tell my bud that some people have had experience with Kerbeck and nothing negative happened.....just let it go at that.
That's a tough one, having to make a deal with places that are hours away. Unfortunately, there no absolute way to know whether Dealer B will honor the trade-in or the transaction price until you get there with checkbook in hand, ready to buy. I guess you'll have to decide for yourself whether the chance of saving $3000 is worth driving 8 hours (roundtrip). Because you have to be prepared to walk out if they don't, which means you drove all that way for nothing.
Sorry if I don't have a magic answer - I feel for you. Personally, I would pass on any brand that didn't have a local dealer, but that's just me.
Must I wait for him to receive the title to get my vehicle?
Yes, you have to wait for Toyota to send him the title, which he will then have to sign over to you. Sorry - that's the problem sometimes when buying from a private seller.
It's completely understandable that Dealer B can't definitely commit to $14k without seeing it... Even if the car's in mint condition and you tell them that, I'm sure that's heard that a thousand times and found the car to be quite the contrary. I don't blame Dealer B for wanting to see the car before they commit to a number, but it seems like $14k must be a pretty aggressive number. If the chance to save $3k isn't worth it to you, then just go with the closer dealer.
Take the car purchase out of the equation for a minute..... If I told you I have cash here waiting for you, but you have to drive 2.5 hours to get it (difference between Dealer A and , and I told you I have $3k, but when you get here it might be as low as $1k, would you still make the drive?
IMO, I would personally drive a few hours more for the chance to get as much as $3k..... Wait, it's Canadian dollars? Oh, forget it then... :P
Even if the dealer is willing to give your the amount for the trade...I suspect they will work you to see if your leaving anything on the table. Let's say you get there and they try to bump you by $2000 and won't budge...now what? The deal is better than the other dealer BUT you were lured with a fictitious number. Do you still want to do business with somebody like that? Do you want to drive all the way home with nothing?
Dealer A and Dealer B can say whatever they want. There is no commitment from either until you're in their showroom(s) and got their offers on paper. Either way is a risk but you're gonna have to do the dance to know for sure. You have the "better" verbal deal from Dealer B so start there if you want. Or try to leverage Dealer A using Dealer B's offer.
Six of one, half dozen of another, ain't got nuthin fer nuthin until ink hits paper.
Thanks for the advice guys. It looks as though it is excactly what I feared, there is no real way to ensure they will honour that deal. I was hoping some dealer might have some experience in this siutation. ie: Is it common for the delaership to have someone local look at my car first, if there any kind of criteria they can base changing the numbers on.
If they tried to change the deal at all I would walk and not purchase. I have no problem in doing that, just don't want to be taken
One other question, how unlikely is it that the two dealers would be so far apart in value for my trade. Dealer A claimed it woudl retail for $13,900. I have done a lot of research and that car should retail for more like 15-17 in this area.
If they tried to change the deal at all I would walk and not purchase. I have no problem in doing that, just don't want to be taken
If Dealer B doesn't give you $14k, you'll walk? How can you expect them to commit to a car they haven't even seen?
Let's say this Dealer B had a used car on their lot you were interested in that was selling for $14k. Without ever seeing or driving the car, would you commit to buying that car? Would you also be a little ticked if you tried to negotiate down and the dealer just said, "But you told me you would buy it for $14k!" I can't imagine you'd do the same if the shoe was on the other foot.
If I appraise a car over the phone I am always light....The reason is simple. Most folks have no idea of the real value of their trade... we see alot of people who have "researched" their trade in and determined that 6 websites are too low and the 7th was the highest, so that one is right...or they saw a dealers asking $xxx. for a similar car so subtract $1500 profit and thats what it's worth.. LOL... I'm not saying this is your case since I have no idea of canadian car values...
The one part of the research that consumer don't have access to is dealer auctions. They give the dealer the up to the minute values of cars. A dealer appraises a car based on what it's worth right now....not what somebody might pay a week later when it's on the used car lot.
Heck, you have a good chance of being baned just for thinking about asking.
Some months ago, someone managed to find all of the postings I had written about my "key story" and listed them. I think he was writing his PhD dissertation about my sordid tale. Maybe you can do some searches and find them too.
Without ever seeing or driving the car, would you commit to buying that car?
No, and thats why I wouldn't make an offer on it either.
I guess the bottom line is excactly what I thought, there is absolutely no way to tell until I get there.
I certainly don't claim to have any knowledge of what my vehicle is worth on trade, if I did, I would'nt be on this forum, I simply know what they sell for, actually no, knwo what they list for.
I am not sure what you mean by "light", does that mean you offer less than what you expect it to be worth or more than you expect? I don't mind a change of say maybe $500, but if I get there and they revert thousands I will be severly dissapointed.
I don't like that mega-dealer. They use screamer ads, baritone variation. I don't like the way the ads boom. Not that they would care - I am not their target audience, I know that.
... **Golfing buddy is looking for a deal on a new '05 Corvette coupe. Since he either can't find one locally (OH), or the price the locals charge is MSRP, he decided to look out of state. .......**
It's a good idea to shop around, especially up north ... the dealers are already thinkin' November/December/January, and 2 of the Vettes worst enemies are coming - snow and ice ...... I'm sure he can find a dealer that will cut one from the herd for $1,000ish or less over invoice depending on the color and the options ...
If he has some patience, have him wait another 90/100 days ... 3 of the best things to buy up north in the winter - (any sport types) Vettes, Porsches, etc - boats and Harleys ... prices get cheap when a seller is standing in 3 feet of snow .. right now, super loaded-up 05's that glow in the dark and with miles in the 2k/4k range are doing in and around the $42/$43 range auction side ... "my guess".? .. come the cold cold days in Cleveland in January, he could probably get a nice one with itty bitty miles for around the $42/43ish range .....
And speakin' of Cleveland and golf .... I traded-in my Cleveland TA-5's for a set of the Tour Edge Hybrids ... Wow.! what a difference .. single digit handicap here I come.!
... ** don't like that mega-dealer. They use screamer ads, baritone variation. I don't like the way the ads boom. Not that they would care - I am not their target audience, I know that. Terry, anything you can say? ...... **
I don't like golf shirts with stripes and Dilliards advertises ton's of them .... but that doesn't stop me from shopping Dillards for solid colors ...
Thanks for reminding me about my profile...I have since updated it!
I would also like to thank everyone for their input in regards to my earlier question! We were leaning towards keeping it in the first place and allot of what was said here made sense. Here's to many years of happy motoring in our Acura!!! Thanks to all once again, you rock!!
I am not sure if you are familiar with CARMAX and if one is available where you live, but if it is, I would suggest to get a free of charge written appraisal of your vehicle, and then you can decide on how to proceed...
I'll take that recommendation to him. I think he wants "new".
If it were me, I'd take your advice and wait for the snow to fly and look for an '05 with those "itty bitty" miles you're talking about. But, it's not me. This is a guy who has no kids, an ex-wife who doesn't want to be an "ex wife" and is going through a full blown mid-life crisis. He's got more dollars than sense, to boot.
He claims he can buy a new, '05 for $42K at this KERBECK place. I'll assume it's a base model.
Regarding any new clubs.....I spent a boatload of money last year for an entire new set of custom made clubs custom fitted to me. Result?
I went from an 11 handicap with my old clubs to a 13 handicap this year with my "new custom jobs".
Its a 2000 Audi A4 1.8T Automatic, Quattro. Leather, no sunroof, but loaded otherwise. 115,000kms , no accidnts at all, and all service records for on time service from the 1st KM.
I am in New Brunswick where these cars generally fetch a little more since they are "rare".
Is there any reason that you aren't selling the Audi yourself? You could probably sell it privately for the $3K difference and then simply buy the TSX locally thus avoiding the 8 hour adventure while ending up with the same deal. If it's as nice and "rare" as you say there should be local buyers, particularly with the Quattro. Don't you folks already have snow on the ground?
I can understand wanting to avoid the hassle of selling it yourself, but it does leave that part of the deal up in the air and subject to accusations of "misrepresentation" on both sides at negotiation. Most of the dealers who frequent this forum will tell you that the consumer has an unrealistic appraisal of their own car. It's understandable because we (consumers) are all saints who meticulously care for all our goods and never misrepresent any past unrectified problems, missed service or other pertinent history. That's why if, and when, I ask Terry for his appraisal at RWTIV for my 1994 Honda Civic with 116K I can say, "it's outstanding, it's mint, I swear"! "Did I fail to mention it's a 5 speed, has stone chips on the windshield, was backed into, but beautifully repaired in 1995". "That can't be important to the final appraisal, can it?"
Is there a source for historic used car prices? I donated a car this year and my accountant wants me to find out the value of the vehicle the year I inherited it. Thanks.
I was looking for a certain used car the dealer had in stock on their website. I went to the lot to walk it after hours, and the car was not there. When they opned, I called, and they told me an employee had taken it on vacation, and would be back Monday morning.
It is a Certified Used car, but is it common for employees to take used cars as demos? If I decide to purchase, what service should I request prior to delivery?
I am trying to buy new car. I feel ok about the price they have given me, 11% off of MSRP. Problem is the trade in. I went to the dealer few days ago to get appraised, I got printed sheet. Price was pretty good. Today, I am at the dealer where I am trying to buy new car(differrent brand) they are low balling me $3000 less. I walked out. I think I should wait few days and go back in . What else advice can I get?
Encino, I'm a little confused with your post.... the dealer that gave you the "printed sheet" on your used car, is that the same dealer that is now saying your vehicle is $3,000 less? or is it a different dealer?
Curious, what kind of car is a dealer giving you 11% off of the MSRP? Also, what kind of car are you trading?
Mark
2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
That's simple, Encino. Do some research on this web site and others to determine how much your car is worth. Try the 'Real World Trade-in Value' topic in this DG.
Then do some reasearch to determine how much the new car should cost.
Then come back here for some advice.
However, there is an alternative. Go to the dealer without doing your research, pay way too much, and be mad at yourself for the rest of your natural life..
"I can figure out what kind of clubs would better suit your game"
Who are you...Butch Harmon? The man just spent a "boatload" on a new set of custom made golf clubs. Are you trying to send him to the poorhouse? :sick:
Graphic, it's not that unusual for ones score to go down a bit when changing from one set of clubs to another. A truely custom fit club not only fits your height/reach but your swing pattern and tempo as well. It may take a little while for your old body to get back in tune with the different wieght ratios your new clubs provide.
Also, keep in mind the psychological implications the new clubs may have provided. Perhaps with new clubs you decided you may not have to practice as much?
Keep your clubs. I bet next year your scores will return to what they were... then better. tiger
Lemon law disposal fee......Anyone heard of that? A dealer in the Miami area put that in the email he sent me. I laughed and told him to take me off his email distribution list.
I was at the porsche dealer , got OK price for Cayenne. But got upset while getting my Mercedez ML320 getting appraised for trade in. It has only 38k miles. Just the day before, I got it appraised by my Mercedez dealer for $21,500 (whole sale) $25,000(retail) and they gave me the printed sheets for that. They told me that I sould at least get $21,500 for it since dealers will be putting it on the market for around $25,000. Porsche dealer said they are only going to give me $18,000, and they said that Mercedez dealer gave me that higher trade in price to stir the pot( so, I get upset at the porsche dealer and come back and buy new Mercedez.) Now my questions are does dealers do things like that on daily basis? Is this one of common trick of somekind or what? Any advice appreciated. I'm confused.
Also , when buying a new car, cash(check or money order) Do the dealer need to know my ss# and driver licence #? I have nothing to hide but since I am not financing , I just want to make sure and don't want to give any extra info that is unnessesary.
Encino, I have never given my social security number or driver's license number to my Mercedes dealer. I, too, have a Mercedes ML.....(bought two new Mercedes within a two year period). I just might trade the ML at the end of this year for a 2006 something..... I guess I'll get whatever it's worth at the time I trade it. Of course, I'll ask Terry first what a good trade in price will be before I hit the dealerships.
I'm leaning toward a "non" Mercedes product this time. I just want to try something different. I will be looking for a seven passenger SUV or a wagon.
That brings me to the Volvo wagon or SUV, the Land Rover LR3, the new Mercedes R-class (last resort) and......... don't know yet what else will work. I do not want an American car..... something European, Swedish or Japanese..... but not the Lexus GX... the big swinging door won't work... and the LX... is too out dated. The search continues...
Mark
2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
Mark, thank you for the reply, the question came up to me as I was looking at a piece of paper with my trade in value on it. It had a space for those ## 's. So I thought I'd better ask here.Last time I bought new car , I paid cash also but some how they tricked me and they did credit record search on me. That's was before I gave them the money order check. I had nothing to hide but got me pissed&**&*&. I see you are in the same boat as me looking for the new car! New ML look like Pontiac Azutec IMHO. My MB dealer didn't like the comment but addmitted that, LOL. How about Porsce Cayenne? I personally like cars with smily face on the front end.
Actually by law it is required, you have to report to the IRS, and I believe the Dept of Justice, for any cash transaction over 10K(there's a special form for it) also with the Patriot Act you need to have photo ID for every transaction. I know the dealership I work at won't take a non-certified bank check without looking at the customers credit, from what I've heard this is a standard practice now. Keep in mind if any place ask for this BEFORE the deal is done, than I'd get a little worried, a copy the liscense is standard, but a SSI # seems excessive.
Thanks for replies, I think it make sense and my State must require it since it was on the paper for the trade in evaluation. I'll do what I'm supposed to, so they don't think my money order from bank is Launderd, LOL.
Hey guys....thanks for the advice on golf clubs. I think my play has more to do with me, the way I play and my golf game in general than it does with my clubs.
There's a lot to be said about changing clubs from those that I used for years and felt comfortable with to something that feels totally different, whether they were custom made/fitted or not.
I'm just now getting used to the feel of the new clubs. Plus, I'm not the young lion I used to be. I'm not getting the distance out of the tee box, nor in the fairway (or the trees/rough, if you must know) as I used to. I think it's coincidental that my game has fallen off at the same time I got new clubs.
For years, I had fallen into bad golf habits that I unknowingly compensated for with my old clubs. The new ones aren't quite as foregiving. I have to think more about mechanics, whereas before, I'd just step up and "whack" the ball. Whenever I have to think too much, my game goes to "hell in a handbasket". That's true of work and relationships, too though. If I have to think about it too much, I usually mess it up.
.... **Just the day before, I got it appraised by my Mercedes dealer for $21,500 (whole sale) $25,000(retail) and they gave me the printed sheets for that. They told me that I should at least get $21,500 .......**
$21,500 .......? ..
Sounds like your local friendly Benz dealer has ya on a little bit of a "ball" ..... if the Porsche dealer dropped $18 into it, then that was aaaaaall the money, all the cookies in the cookie jar, the whole enchilada ..... you need to be lookin' at the "difference" figure, not what they're "showing" you on paper .....
Dealers are only paying the $17/$18 range for the twin to yours at the auctions - and $21,500 is a Retail figure ... not to hurt ones feelings, but ML's are not the hottest SUV's rolling around the streets, even with tiny miles .... a Porsche Cayenne certainly wouldn't be my first pick, but at least the Porsche dealer is being upfront and honest ... the Benz dealer has ya out on a leash .. if ya can't live without a new Benz, then find yourself a new dealer that's reputable .....
Good afternoon. I am on an extremely tight budget and I'm close to buying a new vehicle. It's an 05 so naturally the dealers are dealing and there is a hefty rebate involved. If I had my druthers, I'd buy the 06 version, but they are just too far out of my budget range. I'm aware that I'll be driving a one year old car as soon as it hits the street. I keep debating with myself the pros/cons of buying an 05 now and then debating whether I should wait and buy something used. What's the smart thing to do?
The other issue is how long do you plan to keep the car? Past a certain point one year more or less doesn't matter. We tend to keep cars a long time, at which point condition and mile are more important than years.
That dealers make more on used car sales than on new cars? I've always noticed that dealer's prices for used cars are usually above what private parties ask. So it appears to me that new car sales yield only a small percentage of a dealer's profits. The other question i have is: given the specialization in care repairs 9eg. front end shops, transmission shops, etc.) is it fair to expect a dealer to do all of the repair work in house? I'd be pretty upset if my local SATURN dealer sent MY car to the local AAMMCO shop for a transmission rebuild (and charging me dealer labor rates)!
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You must have just seen the commercial with the guy riding his mountain bike down the mountain and his cholesterol number of 270 catching up with him...LOL
Must I wait for him to receive the title to get my vehicle? What can I do??
THX!!!
What are you going to do? Hire a skywriter or drop leaflets telling the key story when Isell is out and about (and away from net access)?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
This is the situation that I am in. I am purchasing a new 2005 Acua TSX auto without Navi, sticker price is $37,500 ( Cdn). I am trading in a 2000 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro. There is no Acura dealer in the town I live in, and only two within driving distance. One is 1.5 hours drive away, the other is 4 hours drive.
I began dealing with dealer A (the closer one) and they offered me $11k (which I thoguht was low) for my trade and sticker on the new one. I went to this dealer in person. Dealer B offered me same price on new car and $14k for my trade based on seeing it. My trade is in near mint condition, certainly nothing a deler could honeslty worry about.
Dealer A called me back to check and I reported excactly what Dealer B had offered, he got a little upset and claimed that when I drove the 4 hours they would not offer the same deal and change it.
I want the deal that B offered, I don't want to drive 4 hours down and 4 hours back for nothing, I know they won't sign the deal without seeing my car first, is there anything that I can do ??
Any advice is GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks,
Scott
I'll just tell my bud that some people have had experience with Kerbeck and nothing negative happened.....just let it go at that.
Sorry if I don't have a magic answer - I feel for you. Personally, I would pass on any brand that didn't have a local dealer, but that's just me.
Yes, you have to wait for Toyota to send him the title, which he will then have to sign over to you. Sorry - that's the problem sometimes when buying from a private seller.
Take the car purchase out of the equation for a minute..... If I told you I have cash here waiting for you, but you have to drive 2.5 hours to get it (difference between Dealer A and
IMO, I would personally drive a few hours more for the chance to get as much as $3k..... Wait, it's Canadian dollars? Oh, forget it then... :P
Six of one, half dozen of another, ain't got nuthin fer nuthin until ink hits paper.
If they tried to change the deal at all I would walk and not purchase. I have no problem in doing that, just don't want to be taken
One other question, how unlikely is it that the two dealers would be so far apart in value for my trade. Dealer A claimed it woudl retail for $13,900. I have done a lot of research and that car should retail for more like 15-17 in this area.
Anyone hear anything that might help me further?
Thanks again.
If Dealer B doesn't give you $14k, you'll walk? How can you expect them to commit to a car they haven't even seen?
Let's say this Dealer B had a used car on their lot you were interested in that was selling for $14k. Without ever seeing or driving the car, would you commit to buying that car? Would you also be a little ticked if you tried to negotiate down and the dealer just said, "But you told me you would buy it for $14k!" I can't imagine you'd do the same if the shoe was on the other foot.
The one part of the research that consumer don't have access to is dealer auctions. They give the dealer the up to the minute values of cars. A dealer appraises a car based on what it's worth right now....not what somebody might pay a week later when it's on the used car lot.
Heck, you have a good chance of being baned just for thinking about asking.
Some months ago, someone managed to find all of the postings I had written about my "key story" and listed them. I think he was writing his PhD dissertation about my sordid tale. Maybe you can do some searches and find them too.
No, and thats why I wouldn't make an offer on it either.
I guess the bottom line is excactly what I thought, there is absolutely no way to tell until I get there.
I certainly don't claim to have any knowledge of what my vehicle is worth on trade, if I did, I would'nt be on this forum, I simply know what they sell for, actually no, knwo what they list for.
I am not sure what you mean by "light", does that mean you offer less than what you expect it to be worth or more than you expect? I don't mind a change of say maybe $500, but if I get there and they revert thousands I will be severly dissapointed.
Thanks again.
It's still easy to do, just write the first email and then copy and paste it to other addresses, you can usually do it from the dealers' websites.
Terry, anything you can say?
Let me know which province you're from, I'llf ind out what the ballpark for your 1.8T is. Is it leather, sunroof, loaded? how many kms? any accidents?
Let us know
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
It's a good idea to shop around, especially up north ... the dealers are already thinkin' November/December/January, and 2 of the Vettes worst enemies are coming - snow and ice ...... I'm sure he can find a dealer that will cut one from the herd for $1,000ish or less over invoice depending on the color and the options ...
If he has some patience, have him wait another 90/100 days ... 3 of the best things to buy up north in the winter - (any sport types) Vettes, Porsches, etc - boats and Harleys ... prices get cheap when a seller is standing in 3 feet of snow .. right now, super loaded-up 05's that glow in the dark and with miles in the 2k/4k range are doing in and around the $42/$43 range auction side ... "my guess".? .. come the cold cold days in Cleveland in January, he could probably get a nice one with itty bitty miles for around the $42/43ish range .....
And speakin' of Cleveland and golf .... I traded-in my Cleveland TA-5's for a set of the Tour Edge Hybrids ... Wow.! what a difference .. single digit handicap here I come.!
Terry.
Terry, anything you can say? ...... **
I don't like golf shirts with stripes and Dilliards advertises ton's of them .... but that doesn't stop me from shopping Dillards for solid colors ...
Terry.
I would also like to thank everyone for their input in regards to my earlier question!
We were leaning towards keeping it in the first place and allot of what was said here made sense. Here's to many years of happy motoring in our Acura!!!
Thanks to all once again, you rock!!
I'll take that recommendation to him. I think he wants "new".
If it were me, I'd take your advice and wait for the snow to fly and look for an '05 with those "itty bitty" miles you're talking about. But, it's not me. This is a guy who has no kids, an ex-wife who doesn't want to be an "ex wife" and is going through a full blown mid-life crisis. He's got more dollars than sense, to boot.
He claims he can buy a new, '05 for $42K at this KERBECK place. I'll assume it's a base model.
Regarding any new clubs.....I spent a boatload of money last year for an entire new set of custom made clubs custom fitted to me. Result?
I went from an 11 handicap with my old clubs to a 13 handicap this year with my "new custom jobs".
Good luck on your handicap, though. :shades:
I am in New Brunswick where these cars generally fetch a little more since they are "rare".
Thanks Alot,
Scott
I can understand wanting to avoid the hassle of selling it yourself, but it does leave that part of the deal up in the air and subject to accusations of "misrepresentation" on both sides at negotiation. Most of the dealers who frequent this forum will tell you that the consumer has an unrealistic appraisal of their own car. It's understandable because we (consumers) are all saints who meticulously care for all our goods and never misrepresent any past unrectified problems, missed service or other pertinent history. That's why if, and when, I ask Terry for his appraisal at RWTIV for my 1994 Honda Civic with 116K I can say, "it's outstanding, it's mint, I swear"! "Did I fail to mention it's a 5 speed, has stone chips on the windshield, was backed into, but beautifully repaired in 1995". "That can't be important to the final appraisal, can it?"
Gogiboy
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
It is a Certified Used car, but is it common for employees to take used cars as demos? If I decide to purchase, what service should I request prior to delivery?
I went to the dealer few days ago to get appraised, I got printed sheet. Price was pretty good. Today, I am at the dealer where I am trying to buy new car(differrent brand) they are low balling me $3000 less. I walked out. I think I should wait few days and go back in . What else advice can I get?
Curious, what kind of car is a dealer giving you 11% off of the MSRP? Also, what kind of car are you trading?
Mark
Send me an Email and maybe I can help you figure out what kind of clubs would better suit your game.
Bob
Then do some reasearch to determine how much the new car should cost.
Then come back here for some advice.
However, there is an alternative. Go to the dealer without doing your research, pay way too much, and be mad at yourself for the rest of your natural life..
Who are you...Butch Harmon?
Graphic, it's not that unusual for ones score to go down a bit when changing from one set of clubs to another. A truely custom fit club not only fits your height/reach but your swing pattern and tempo as well. It may take a little while for your old body to get back in tune with the different wieght ratios your new clubs provide.
Also, keep in mind the psychological implications the new clubs may have provided. Perhaps with new clubs you decided you may not have to practice as much?
Keep your clubs. I bet next year your scores will return to what they were... then better.
tiger
Porsche dealer said they are only going to give me $18,000, and they said that Mercedez dealer gave me that higher trade in price to stir the pot( so, I get upset at the porsche dealer and come back and buy new Mercedez.)
Now my questions are does dealers do things like that on daily basis? Is this one of common trick of somekind or what?
Any advice appreciated. I'm confused.
I have nothing to hide but since I am not financing , I just want to make sure and don't want to give any extra info that is unnessesary.
I'm leaning toward a "non" Mercedes product this time. I just want to try something different. I will be looking for a seven passenger SUV or a wagon.
That brings me to the Volvo wagon or SUV, the Land Rover LR3, the new Mercedes R-class (last resort) and......... don't know yet what else will work. I do not want an American car..... something European, Swedish or Japanese..... but not the Lexus GX... the big swinging door won't work... and the LX... is too out dated. The search continues...
Mark
I see you are in the same boat as me looking for the new car!
New ML look like Pontiac Azutec IMHO. My MB dealer didn't like the comment but addmitted that, LOL.
How about Porsce Cayenne? I personally like cars with smily face on the front end.
If you are trading in a $20k car, they want to make sure it really is yours.
If you are paying with a check they want to make sure it is your account and you are who you say you are.
If you are coming in with $30k in $20 dollar bill Uncle Sammy will want to know who you are , to make sure you are not doing some laundry.
There's a lot to be said about changing clubs from those that I used for years and felt comfortable with to something that feels totally different, whether they were custom made/fitted or not.
I'm just now getting used to the feel of the new clubs. Plus, I'm not the young lion I used to be. I'm not getting the distance out of the tee box, nor in the fairway (or the trees/rough, if you must know) as I used to. I think it's coincidental that my game has fallen off at the same time I got new clubs.
For years, I had fallen into bad golf habits that I unknowingly compensated for with my old clubs. The new ones aren't quite as foregiving. I have to think more about mechanics, whereas before, I'd just step up and "whack" the ball. Whenever I have to think too much, my game goes to "hell in a handbasket". That's true of work and relationships, too though. If I have to think about it too much, I usually mess it up.
I'm a simple man!!!!!!! :P
$21,500 .......? ..
Sounds like your local friendly Benz dealer has ya on a little bit of a "ball" ..... if the Porsche dealer dropped $18 into it, then that was aaaaaall the money, all the cookies in the cookie jar, the whole enchilada ..... you need to be lookin' at the "difference" figure, not what they're "showing" you on paper .....
Dealers are only paying the $17/$18 range for the twin to yours at the auctions - and $21,500 is a Retail figure ... not to hurt ones feelings, but ML's are not the hottest SUV's rolling around the streets, even with tiny miles .... a Porsche Cayenne certainly wouldn't be my first pick, but at least the Porsche dealer is being upfront and honest ... the Benz dealer has ya out on a leash .. if ya can't live without a new Benz, then find yourself a new dealer that's reputable .....
Terry
The other question i have is: given the specialization in care repairs 9eg. front end shops, transmission shops, etc.) is it fair to expect a dealer to do all of the repair work in house? I'd be pretty upset if my local SATURN dealer sent MY car to the local AAMMCO shop for a transmission rebuild (and charging me dealer labor rates)!