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Audi A8



  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,932
    “The A8 has a manufacturer’s suggested retail price of $66,590.”

    Hmm . . .

    The new Caddy STS V8 AWD (1SG) appears to be in the $62K range.

    A8 (SWB) with cold weather and convenience packages (just to come close to comparable equipment) = approx. $74K. (One could argue equipment levels forever, I suppose.)

    Both V8 300+ HP/TQ, AWD – sized similarly? I will have to check. Weight advantage for the (aluminum intense) Audi? I will have to check . . . .

    Hmm . . .

    - Ray
    Just finding this interesting . . .
    2016 BMW 340i
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Well the two cars may come close in price, but for me the A8's interior, styling etc. put it in another league above any Cadillac. No comparision to me. The Cadillac is way overpriced if it comes close to the A8's price, imo.

  • djsky24djsky24 Posts: 2
    I have to agree with the other reply. If it is close to the A8 price I hope you are not entertaining the idea of purchasing the caddy. The first reason is it is a caddy. The second reason is, it is a caddy. I hope you spend the time necessary to actually drive both vehicles in inclement weather/ If you do, let me know how much the towing bill is after the caddy test drive. I have personally driven the A8 in 10" of snow up hill. I would be astonished if anything other than a 4x4 truck, no, I mean, uhhh, well I guess another Audi. Believe what you will, but this is only my experience.
  • djsky24djsky24 Posts: 2
    I have to agree with the other reply. If it is close to the A8 price I hope you are not entertaining the idea of purchasing the caddy. The first reason is it is a caddy. The second reason is, it is a caddy. I hope you spend the time necessary to actually drive both vehicles in inclement weather/ If you do, let me know how much the towing bill is after the caddy test drive. I have personally driven the A8 in 10" of snow up hill. I would be astonished if anything other than a 4x4 truck, no, I mean, uhhh, well I guess another Audi. Believe what you will, but this is only my experience.
  • jpvwaudijpvwaudi Posts: 139
    When considering the weight of the caddy:

    Both V8 300+ HP/TQ, AWD – sized similarly? I will have to check. Weight advantage for the (aluminum intense) Audi? I will have to check . . . .

    Don't forget the Laundau roof, gold package, Vogue tires and the requisite walker or RASCAL.
  • jpvwaudijpvwaudi Posts: 139
    Just a quick poll:

    If shopping for a new A8 SWB, check that, A8, because no matter what, its not short, how would you like it equipped?

    I just built our first one the other day and would like to know how I did....
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,932
    " how would you like it equipped?"

    w/RS6 motor and RS6 suspension and RS6 'Sound Enhancing Exhaust System' . . .??
    - Ray
    Realizing that is probably NOT exactly what you had in mind
    2016 BMW 340i
  • auditorauditor Posts: 63
    Response to your quick poll:

    Though I'm now more inclined toward getting a 2005 A6 4.2V8 eqippd to make it as equivalent eqpt.-wise as a SWB A8, if I were to go for a 2005 A8 SWB, it would be either in night blue pearl or light silver metallic (in either case with a black/amaretto interior).

    Definite options for me would be: cold weather package, parktronic and 18" alloys with all season tires (would decide between 5-spoke or 9-spoke wheels after I've see them and get their prices).

    Possible additional option is a wood steering with paddle shifters and a wood shift knob but,again, would want to see and drive a car with one and assess its cost vs. benefits.

    When you say you "built" one, do you mean hypothetically (which is what I've done), or have you actually ordered one and, if so, did you get
    list prices for the options? My understanding is that the U.S. base price will be $66,590.
  • coppercopper Posts: 94
    I just came back from my local Audi dealership.
    They said they just 15 A8 demos from the company.
    And they have a deal on them for $669, 24 months...$2000 down. Some have 4000 miles on them. They assure me they are not buybacks. It this possible??
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    If it's a lease and under warranty, and you like the car that is a great deal. I'm a Lexus LS430 person and prefer its ride and quality but the A8 design is gorgeous and that's an awful lot of car for that money. If I wanted an A8 - even moderately - I wouldn't pass on that deal and Audi is too classy a company to allow a misleading sale by its dealers. It may well be simple business - that being that is the price needed to move the cars and it may well be subsidized by Audi.
  • Dealer is offering over $12K off the msrp for cars they are buying at auction. Why are there so many of these new vehicles already at auction?
    I have also heard about problems with brakes, electronics, & and the MMI systems, has anyone been faced with these problems?
    While a the dealer I met a couple that test drove a 2004 A8L (my salesperson said that it was a buy-back with only 9K miles) they said the ABS light was on and the dealer told them it already needed new brakes (sounds like a big lie), what's up with the brakes on these cars?
  • hjcanterhjcanter Posts: 31
    Has anyone else test driven the new SWB a8 yet? I test drove it last Friday and I liked it very much. In fact so much, I placed and order for one. (Pretty much loaded) I would like to hear from anyone who as driven the car.
  • auditorauditor Posts: 63
    I also test drove an SWB A8 last week and found it very impressive:
    a large, very comfortable and quite luxurious car but, also, very fast and responsive to driver inputs.

    I've been considering it, along with the soon to come '05 A6 4.2 V8 (which I haven't been able to test drive yet), as a replacement for my wonderful but aging 740i. My sense is that the new A6 will have a bit less luxury but, perhaps, more of a sporting feel and, not unimportant, cost about $15K less (even when configured to match the SWB A8).

    Given that you were probably one of your dealer's early buyers of the new SWB A8, were you able to negotiate any discount from MSRP on the
    price and, if so, how much??
  • hjcanterhjcanter Posts: 31
    After I added my options, and there were many, the MSRP was about $74,000 and change. I do not have it in writing, but I should be getting $1,500 off the price. I do not think that is a bad deal. Most A8's get only $500 to $1,000 off here in MD.

    The cool thing is that I am the first one at the dealership to order one and I only have a $1,000 deposit on it. Should have it in about 3 months. If you want to know, I'll tell you what options I got.
  • auditorauditor Posts: 63
    I believe the $1,500 discount you got is quite decent; I haven't asked
    the 3 dealers I've been talking to (in the Phila. area) about what they'd be willing to do yet, because I waiting to decide which new Audi I really want.

    But, when I talked to them about an '04 A8L 6 months ago (in the middle of the model year), initially they seemed willing to take only $500 or maybe $1,000 off MSRP.

    And, yes, I would like to know what options you got.

  • hjcanterhjcanter Posts: 31

    Cold Weather, Convenience, Parktronic, XM Radio, Vent. and Massage seats (treat for me!), 18" 9-Spoke wheels.

    Exterior: Oyster Gray Metallic
    Interior: Beige

    It is going to be nice!
  • auditorauditor Posts: 63
    Congrat's!! Your new A8 will be more than nice; it'll be great!!

    Just don't let the seat massage get you too excited!!
  • jpvwaudijpvwaudi Posts: 139
    I appreciate the responses from the little survey. I had already ordered the car; let me see if I can cut and paste what I built....
    uh I can't...well here it is, I'll have to type:

    05 A8
    XM radio
    Sycamore wood steering wheel
    cold weather package
    19's with ALL SEASONS....(Yay!)
    Massage/Ventilated seats

    We're very excited we can now offer the 19's with the allseasons. The car looks so much better this way. Well, how did I do?
  • jpvwaudijpvwaudi Posts: 139
    Many of these cars are press fleet/training cars/executive demos. When I went to Vegas for training, there had to be 75 of them. We watched an online-dealer only auction for these cars; I was really close to buying one. I didn't, only because I bought a boat instead. (I tow it with my trusty "why don't you sell this thing" anti-wife 91 F150).

    Don't be afraid to buy one, they'll be certified, with a 6/100k bumper to bumper. You'll retain the free service til 50k, and be eligible for great lease and finance programs through AFS.
  • hjcanterhjcanter Posts: 31
    Close in options to what I ordered. I was not crazy about the wood steering wheel. I like a wood and leather one (like in my wife's lexus). So, went with the leather wheel. The SWB A8 drives great!
  • sgriefsgrief Posts: 2
    I drove the 05 SWB A8 yesterday. It was great! It felt bank vault solid and the "feel" of the MMI was vastly better than the iDrive. The quality of the displays--both MMI and in cluster--are really impressive. No problem at all with glare from any angle on a very sunny day. The handling with the suspension set to "Dynamic" was tight and there were no problems handling a chopped up Route 9 west of Boston...

    I have a few questions on options:
    1) Has anyone seen the 9-spoke wheels? Any pictures you can post a link for?
    2) Are the tiptronic paddles only available with the wood wheel? I love the paddles, but I agree with the previous post that the leather is more comfortable...
    3) What does the Alcantara package get you? Are the seating surfaces different or just the miscellaneous trim pieces? It seems pretty pricey.
    4) What do people think about the leather for the door and center armrests?
  • hjcanterhjcanter Posts: 31
    The car I test drove had the 9 spoke wheels. They look great and I did order them! You can get a look at them at the audiuk website. I saw a great pic of them before, I just can't remember where I saw it.

    I believe all the new steering wheels are coming with the triptronic paddles, but not 100% sure.

    Alcantara is really an upgrade for the headliner. It is the same material used in the doors. A suade like material. I did not think it was worth the money. The seating is still leather.

    When I drove the car, I had it in the automatic setting. On the highway, it felt great. On the twisty roads, it handled well for a big car.
  • hi guys..recently gave up my 98 7 series for a 2001 audi a8l..bimmer was out of warranty w/96,000 miles..still ran like a trooper though..i recently moved and now have a 100 miles daily commute...needed all wheel drive for the winter days up and down the nj is certified till 100,000 miles...paid 30,900..42,000 miles at riverside audi in runs great..much quicker off the line than the 7 series..aluminum makes it more nimble also...however the 7 is built with a better we all know with preowned german cars..the service dept can make or brake the ownership experience..riverside is starting to get on my nerves and i haven't had the car a month.. a series of recent incidents have led me to believe that the car never actually went thru the certification process but rather prepped for delivery...there are very obvious nuisances that a service tech could not have missed if he drove the squeak in the steering wheel and sensor light on..hte fact that they never gave me the inspection and certification report only supports my suspicion...dropping a certified letter to the service manager this morning...otherwise a great car..i love the inconspicous styling..the 310 hp can certaily get you where you want to go...glad to be aboard..
  • Need to know if paying 23,000 for an Audi A8 2000 with 59,000 miles is worth the price. Should I consider a 32K certified car instead?
  • tiny1tiny1 Posts: 26
    I'm in the same boat. A dealer gave me a 2000 A8L to drive over the weekend with the hope I'd buy it. It has 59500 miles, looks to be in good shape and costs $22,990, which I think is way under "trade in". The struggle: There is no warranty on the car and there are a couple of little things that are broken; 1) Power headrest and seatbelt adjustment; 2) Power rear window shade; 3)Service light comes on and displays "AIRBAG" when car starts sometimes. Although the dealer will work with me on these items, I'm worried about what will go wrong next. The tires probably should be replaced in the next year. I'm not in a financial state to pour money into this every other month, however, I really like the car and it fits my size (6'6'. 250lbs, with tall children). I'd really like to get into this car for 23K rather than 33K, but don't want to buy a continuing problem. Do you have a feel for the reliability of the 2000 A8L, after 4 years? Are there any after market extended warranties out there that make sense financially for the major items (engine, power train etc..)?
  • Considering buying a 98 A8. 68K miles and 18K$. Transmission was service/fixed? at 50K . Great coondition.

    Any reason I should not buy it? Have owed BMW's and would like to own an A8 but the reviews have me nervous concerning reliability out of warranty.

  • Hi,

    Be very, very careful. We bought a 1997 A8 Quattro with 40+K miles on it. It immediately needed a very expensive head casket, control arms, tie rods, and wheel bearings. After that, we had to fix fuel leaks and coolant leaks. The memory seats don't work properly and the automatic-volume-raising-when-speed-increases feature has never worked except to blast the radio whenever it wants. At a little more than 100K, the transmission had to be replaced (at $6K); I called Audi who said they wouldn't do anything. I checked with Junk Yards that told me the '97 transmission was so bad they stopped making it, and the demand for early A8 transmissions is so huge they can't keep any in stock. Dealers told me they won't deal in '97's because of the transmissions. A friend had a '98 Tiptronic that had to have the transmission replaced 3X in the first 2 years. He is a "former" Audi driver. We had an after market extended warranty, but the company went bankrupt. They paid on our car 4X what our premium was. I asked Audi if this was the way they stood behind their $70K, top-of-the-line, engineering marvel, and they replied "Sorry".

    The car is comfortable, fast, fun to drive, but be prepared to pay and pay and pay to a company that does nothing more than apologize.

    Good luck!

    Rodney Hager
  • I just came from our local highway and there in the middle of the road with it's magnificant hood upright blocking traffic was a brand new, broken down Audi A8L with the owner standing on the median strip. "Engineering Marvel" came to mind. Apparently the newer they are the worse they are. My 97 has cost a fortune in unreasonable repairs. They started making crap and they engineered it to perfection...way to go Audi!
  • sussus Posts: 1
    I am very taken with the Lexus L430 and Audi L8, having a tough time making a decision, Love the controls of Audi ( my right arm does not reach), but love the pillow ride of Lexus, but I do need to get up the hills, can I even consider the Lexus??? lots of features on both I Love,,, HELP!! Sus
  • aggie76aggie76 Posts: 266
    I'm very pleased with my 2004 LS430 and will get to give it a nice test beginning today on snow & hills. Heading over to northern Michigan from western Illinois mid-day today through the forecasted snow. Just mounted my new wheels and Dunlop Winter Sport M3's and will have the opportunity on some hills when visiting family. Will get back and share experiences. I personally am thrilled that I chose the LS, great ride & great price.
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