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total of 26,492, incl. 18.00 for smokers group.I told dealer I would give him $200 over that less any rebates in place at time of delivery.Rebates at that time were $1000 consumer $280 LXI and about $500 in regional rebate which he did not tell me about.I had called Chrysler hotline for rebates before I went to get car,and the person asked if I was dealer or consumer Guess what I said they did not ask for any dealer code and gave me the rebate codes.If you are in the northeast there is a CO4Y until 11/20/99 for $500
I'll post our result here when we drive it home.
work this morning I was wondering how chrysler
would fare in sales if they had the following
and then report the entire sales as Chrysler
I read somewhere a long time ago WHY Toyota HAD to call the Solara a CAMRY Solara, but I cannot remember the reason. ;-((
It's a nice car. My 85 year old aunt bought one last March- SLE V-6, traction control, side airbags, spoiler and something else I think. Not as peppy or eye catching as the 300M and not as many options, but a real nice car. Quiet as a Lexus and very smooth shifting. No problems so far. They're coming out with a convertible in the Spring. It's in their brochure along with a pic.
Which turned out to be up into the Cumberland Gap area of Tennessee, Virginia, and Kentucky. The first 100 or so miles of the trip was interstate, and I was pleased with the car's ride and handling. Noise was noticeable, but not to any untoward extent. Of course, my frame of reference is a 1984 Tercel, the ride in which above 65 m.p.h. can only be described as more than a little apocalyptic.
For the car's pre-delivery drive that afternoon I'd brought a couple of fairly loud CDs (Stones' "Exile on Main Street" and Johnny Winter's "Winter of 88" discs) to test drive the sound system as well. It certainly can put out the decibels. For the road trip I brought music more challenging for the system, with much richer textures and wider range of intensity and tone, specifically Handel's "Messiah," Beethoven's symphonies, and sundry Bach organ works. Even at interstate speeds, with the stereo at a conversational level, I could still follow, for example, the harpsichord (from which the recording was conducted) on the quieter tracks (and even in the background on the choral movements) from "Messiah," and the softest spots of the 3rd movement of Beethoven's 9th; similarly, the system handled well the transition from the most intense of the Canonical Variations on Vom Himmel Hoch to most the quiet. In short, the car ain't a cathedral, but then you can't take a cathedral on a road trip. It certainly compares well with, for instance, the Town Car.
Drive comfort was outstanding. We ended up spending eight to ten hours each on Saturday and Sunday on the road, and my 6'3"/220 lb. frame had zero problems with sitting posture or room (head, leg, and seat). For me, the biggest issue in this respect tends to be foot room (I wear a 15 EEEE). There seems to be sufficient of that as well; with the cruise control set I could even work my right foot between the accelerator and the brake and buy a few more inches. No serious complaints from the Wife on the passenger side, and she's 6'1". The climate control system works like a champ, unobtrusive but effective.
Handling was, as the reviewers say, superb for a 209" long car. I'll vote any day for the highway from Big Stone Gap, Va. to Lynch, Ky., and more generally the back highways of Harlan Co., Kentucky as a handling test. Pick-up was excellent, a key issue when passing areas are few and far between. Can't say too much about milage; the kind of driving we were doing doesn't lend itself to drawing conclusions of that sort.
The Wife and I always travel light, but still, even with both our luggage in the trunk, it was all huddled forlornly on the near side of the cargo net, with seemingly limitless cavern yawning on the opposite side.
We experienced no mechanical problems at all, which I suppose you'd sort of expect for a car you pick up with 6 miles on the clock (although I still find it amazing that any manufacturer can make something that complicated which actually works even most of the time). Whether and for how long that will continue we'll have to see.
Can I recommend this car? Subject to the usual caveats of let's-see-how-the-thing-holds-up, I absolutely can. You'll not find a larger, better-looking, better-riding, better-equipped car for anywhere near the money.
Thanks for any input.
FYI i live in Connecticut
As for the road noise I also find the Concorde to pick up a lot of road noise and wind noise as well.
I can't say that I am happy about the noisy ride of the Concorde but I am just learning to live with it.
Like you I have also been driving GM vehicles for many years and have been spoiled by the much quieter drive of the GM cars.
As for the vibration at high speeds that you commented about....I have no serious vibration with my concorde....I can feel the road through my steering wheel but not to a degree that it bothers me.
I wish you the best of luck with your new car.
We would have just ordered, but we were too close to the expiration of the $1000 rebate on 12/13. Finally, Dealer A said that it could guarantee the price of the car even if the rebate was not in place when the car came in. That shop's price wasn't great, so we shopped the offer to Dealer B, who essentially said Dealer A was lying. Incredibly, within the hour Dealer A had called back to say that the rebate could not be guaranteed and Dealer B called back to say it had "figured out" how to guarantee the rebate. These were sales managers!
At that point, we did not trust any of them and even considered looking for the car out of state. Fortunately, Chrysler extended the rebate for 60 days and our order is now in. At cost. Look for us on I-10 in January. We'll be the ones in the 2000 Concorde LXi, listening to 4 CDs and enjoying the view through the moonroof! Finally!
I'll apologize up front to anyone who is experiencing significant mechanical problems as my complaint pales severely in comparison, however, I can't possibly relate how annoying it is to park your car, get out, hit the button on the remote and the alarm light upon the dashboard fails to activate. I mean, that's what it is there for - to BLINK when you're not there! But alas, I'll get back in the car, turn the engine on again, turn it off, get out, close the door, hit the remote once more and maybe, just maybe the light goes on depending on how it feels that particular day. I've scoured through the owner's manual and checked for possible causes and have safeguarded against them accordingly.
Because my car has performed well and an additional upgraded alarm was installed by the dealer, I've decided to live with the problem. Equally as convenient (for me), my buddy has brought his car in a handful of times to the dealer to address the problem, which as of the fifth (!) visit still persists. He also has the added problem of his engine light appearing while driving; I have not.
To reiterate, BOTH cars have performed well, yet the dealer appears to be clueless as to how to remedy these problems. It is quite apparent that he does not know. Both cars had an additional up-graded alarm installed as well. The problems with the lights happened almost immediately upon pick-up.
Has anyone else experienced this inconvenience? Are you aware of the cause? Any information is greatly appreciated.
there is a technical service bulletin out on alarm problems with some 2000 models. ask your service tech about it. what upgrade are you talking about? the lxi already comes with the alarm system and sentry key standard. why would you need to upgrade? by the way, you should update your profile now that you have a concorde...ie...91 sable.
Better yet- cut and paste this into your word processor and bring it to your dealer-
Service Bulletin Number: 08-31-99
Bulletin Sequence Number: 791
Date of Bulletin: 9909
NHTSA Item Number: SB607920
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Summary: VEHICLES MAY EXPERIENCE INTERMITTENT OPERATION OF THE VEHICLE THEFT ALARM
(VTA) AND OVERHEAD TEMPERATURE SLOW TO UPDATE. *TT
Many dealers have NO clue when it comes to these TSB's. At least that's what they lead you to believe. I think TSB's are a blow to their ego!
Didn't realize that Edmund's had a link to TSB's. Just found it this morning while walking through the site.
As for the alarm upgrade (a passive alarm), I purchased it from the dealer for a couple of reasons: (1) the factory installed alarm won't activate if a bad guy punches in my my window and unlocks the door from the inside; the passive alarm will; (2) the cost of the alarm was more than offset by the reduction in the insurance premium I was quoted for having it. Additionally, the factory installed alarm is only activated when you hit the remote or depress the automatic door lock button while exiting the car. If I happen to walk away from the car with a bag of groceries and forget to hit the remote (or button)I'm still protected. For these reasons, I felt it was worth it.
Regarding the engine light, I'd still like to know if anyone has experienced a similar problem. I see a rather vague TSB for the engine posted today (12/28) but it doesn't seem to be directly related to the engine light. Like I said, the car rides just fine, but the the fact that the engine light is constantly on is quite unsettling.
My profile has been updated. Thanks again for the help.
i thought you said your buddies concorde was the one with the engine light illuminated..? btw, a service engine soon light could be a multitude of things...if your dealer hasn't a clue...go visit another one who does.
i thought you had a 98 intrepid??
I'm conscious of the possible ill-effects caused by after-market equipment. I agreed to the alarm being installed (by the dealer), in addition to the reasons I previously cited, with the strict understanding that the warranty is NOT voided. Apologies for not making this clear. Perhaps, now you understand my frustration. I went to great lengths to safeguard against ANY problems with this car. Due to the fact that this car is brand new with nothing but Chrysler equipment (it's a fully loaded 2000 LXi with only the passive alarm added BY THE DEALER) any problems, as far as I'm concerned, are the direct responsibility of Chrysler Corp. Unfortunately, they don't have a clue as to how to address the problem. I will approach other dealers.
And yes, it is my buddies' car that is experiencing the constantly illuminated engine light (as well as the intermittent alarm light). Mine is not (knock on wood).
Happy New Year,
CoolR - I've heard that the alarm problem may be caused by "failure to pinstripe" your "fully loaded LXi. Just kidding - Happy New Year!
I THOUGHT I saved the message from NHTSA that told how to get the full report, but I can't find it. Either check out their entire site or e-mail them and ask how you can get the full report. If I do find it, I will post it here.
If anyone is interested in looking at the new Dodge Charger pics, click here- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/7501/charger.html It takes several minutes to load, but the pics are great!
unfortunately road noise has always plagued the lh cars. however, my y2k intrepid is decidedly quieter than my 98 was. i ordered my y2k after i was able to determine when a new rear wheel house silencer went into production, which was on sept 7th. so...not all y2k intrepids or concordes have this silencer...only those built after sept 6th.
Isn't it sad that WE have to ENLIGHTEN them!!!!!!
As I will not get to America (Canadan, actually) but this end-January I must tell you that I am quite frightened by the comments saying that the Intrepids are outrageously noisy. Reliability and safety (side impact, for instance) are major concerns as well.
Any more inputs in this area ? Is the noise situation much improved by the back wheels house silencer ? I thought Chrysler said they've done a lot of work on reliability, safety and noise, and that the 2000 model is much improved.
Bottom line is that you will have to drive one (whether it be an Intrepid, which I test drove once, liked the ride, didn't notice the noise, or a Concorde) to truly get a feel. Your opinion of excessive road noise and someone else's are more than likely to be different. I had some friends in my car who opined that the road noise was not noticeable to them (yes, the Metallica CD was turned off).
As for safety, the ratings I've seen are all "Good" (i.e. acceptable). You will not find any side air bags on these cars.
And if it's reliabilty, you want, I'm sure that there's a Honda dealer somewhere in the neighborhood. Or you could lease as I did. Three years from now, it's somebody else's problem.
Depending on your priorities, a Dodge/Chrysler may still be the car for you. They're classy looking cars, drive well (in my experience which is admittedly limited) and are a lot of car for the money.
I would appreciate anyone's feedback. You can email your response to me directly at [email protected] thanks
Have your dealer look up this info in his computer. It's from the NHTSA site.
Service Bulletin Number: 18-09-98
Bulletin Sequence Number: 302
Date of Bulletin: 9802
NHTSA Item Number: SB600301
Summary: EXHIBITING A HOT ENGINE NO START, HOT ENGINE RESTART WITH A ROUGH IDLE, OR
HOT EXHIBITING A HOT ENGINE NO START, HOT ENGINE RESTART WITH A ROUGH IDLE, OR HOT
ENGINE RESTART/DIEOUT. *YC ENGINE RESTART/DIEOUT. *AK
They can look up the whole bulletin. I have NO clue why they all play DUMB when it comes to these TSB's!!!
Another issues about the Intrepid: the blind spots and the resulting difficulties to park fast.
Wouldn't be a pretty good solution to install a reverse proximity sensor ?? This should be doing the job pretty easy. I have quite some experience with such sensor - it really works miracles. Parking becomes simply easy, and fast.
Any opinions ? As well - which such systems are available on the market, of course models suitable for being installed on (actually "in") the Intrepid's back bumper.