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Pontiac Grand Prix - 2000-2005



  • xavier627xavier627 Posts: 7
    Does anyone know how to make the Fog Lamps stay on when you have the high beams on? In the T/A i know you have to take out he relay and solder or attach the two wires together. This would really help especially when i'll be installing the the blazertech 3200 driving lights. I have a 2000 beamer and the lights on that thing is bright, even without the xenon.
  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    I imagine that rewiring would be in order with the GP as well as they are set-up for the fogs to NOT work with the highbeams (since highbeams are the worst things to use in fog). Let us know if you find the answer.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    It turns out that I don't have a cut off valve on this house. The valve is where the meter box is and that belongs to the city. I doubt they'd let me alter that. If you have a well, I imagine you went about installing your filter system differently. Back to square one.

    I'm going to see if it's possible to put a filter on the hose or outside faucet for car washing.

    I saw a Dark Bronzemist Bonneville today. That's the first one that I've seen in a Bonneville. It was nice looking. Naturally, I'm partial to that color!
  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    Pity about the whole-house filter (hard to believe that they make houses without a shut-off valve inside - nothing that a real plumber couldn't easily deal with I'm sure). Rusty water is definitely NOT recommended for washing.

    I take it from your observation that your GP is dark bronzemist - you discerning car guy you. Yep, another point for GM in the colour development department.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Dan - I think our friend Stnel (Stacy) is probably not a car "guy"! She certainly is one fine lady with very very good taste in automobiles!

  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    No problem! A lot of people don't read profiles and even if they do, they've been acting up. I've noticed the recent posts under my name date back to April with the Impala. I think that's been a problem with a lot of profiles.

    I'm sure the tech people are aware of it and will get it fixed.
  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    My apologies. Actually, I had read your profile and I still didn't clue in. Of course names are getting soooo generic that guys like me (with a guy name like Dan) get easily confused. My wife's name is Daryl (as in Hannah) and with actors like Stacy Keach (definitely a man), it's just too much for me I suppose. I throw myself on the mercy of the forum's membership...
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    I didn't take offense. Names can be confusing.

    GM is on the mark with some nice looking colors. I saw a Redfire in a parking lot the other day and that really was a pretty color of red. The sales manager offered me a good price on the Redfire that I looked at but in test driving the car, it had a funny feel to it in comparison to the other GP's that I test drove. But that was my top color choice. I am real happy, though, with the Dark Bronzemist.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    I FINALLY got my car washed - went over to the parents house. I didn't know I needed to dry the car off though and now water spots have replaced the dirt. At least the water spots won't hurt the paint until I can get it washed again.

    I've never dried a car before after washing it and have never gotten water spots. Is this because the paint is metallic or if the new cars are coated with something when they're new? My other cars were white (non-metallic).
  • sincerosincero Posts: 5

    I also washed my car this past weekend and found a number of waterspots afterwards. I thought I had done a good job drying it but obviously I was wrong. Let me know how your next wash goes!
  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    It's hard to know just how badly spotted your car is but cars can get spotted because: you've got "hard" water; you washed it in direct sunshine; you didn't dry it thoroughly; etc. If you religiously wax your car, excess water should run off more easily - leaving the drying experience quite painless.

    And yeah, what you see can be related to the paint finish - many white finishes are not clear-coated (your GP is definitely clear coated) and so behave differently. Still, embrace it because clear-coating is definitely the way to go.

    If you plan to obsess about your car's appearance (hey, why not? you do have a beauty after all...), you should check out:

    Town Hall: Zaino Car Care Experiences - Part 2Misc articles on car washingCar washing primerMeguiarsZaino (for those who insist on the best and aren't afraid to pay for it)
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Lesson learned - Never use chamois again!

    My 00 Bonneville now has a number of tiny scratches caused by a tiny piece of gravel that got onto the chamois. I suspect one of the kids used it and dropped it on the driveway when we were washing vehicles at some time previously.

    From now on - nothing but freshly laundered cotton towels. I'm going to have to find a lightly abrasive wax to try and get the light scratches out now - any suggestions? I'll certainly check the above printed links.

  • jeffbogjeffbog Posts: 63
    Ken, I started lurking in here because the wife decided on a GP GT 4-door. We took delivery a few weeks ago. Sold an Escort. Big change for her. Plus it drives a lot different then our Impala.

    I have had great luck with a product from Meguiars called Body Scrub. It is safe for clear coat paint and is non-abrasive. I have used it for years every spring to clean my 89 black Buick.. which is mostly original paint. Plus it makes the waxing much easier... no swirls, etc.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    And Congrats on the Pontiac purchase! Sure is a major ride improvement over that Escort.

    A guy about to join my carpool has a GTP - looking forward to lots of comparisons.

    Thanks for the suggestion

  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    Once I saw the water marks on my car, I thought of wetting it down again and drying it but was worried that a cotton towel would get lint on the car. I was going to buy a chamois for the next car wash. Maybe not now.

    I know when I use rags (old towels) to clean mirrors/glass in the house with Windex, it leaves lint on them. I imagine people have used towels before on their cars to know if the same would apply to cars.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    I'm sure your wife will enjoy her new car. I went from a small car to the Grand Prix myself. I had a problems centering myself evenly in parking spaces but am getting better at it. Naturally, I don't want to get too close to one line to avoid that first ding.

    Note re: my post "On chamois" - I just read the article on Misc. car washing that theiceman mentioned and it says that cotton towels are okay for cars.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    I went back over my car and got most of those waterspots out unless they appear again overnight. I had bottled up some water from my parents house because my water has the iron sediment and used that. I did a section at a time and dried each section.

    I'm sure my car looked a lot worse than yours because I hadn't dried it at all when I washed it last night. Quite frankly, the car looked so bad that it was embarrassing. Some would say it ought to be more embarrassing for the neighbors to see me washing my car with bottled water!
  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    Not at all embarrasing. If it was a BMW and you were using Evian water.....

  • zzoom1zzoom1 Posts: 31
    When searching for our Bonny, one of the dealers in the Tampa Bay area had a navy blue GTP, I think they still have it. neat color, kind of has a purplish tint to it and changes color depending on the light conditions. Regarding washing and drying cars, it might sound a bit weird, but when I'm done washing, I'll often take my power blower and get rid of a lot of the water before I use a towel on it. It's really good for getting water out of a lot of place where it might sit for awhile and you can't get at with a towel or chammy.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    using a power blower for drying your car. I went through more than one towel on mine.

    I'm going to Wal-marts in a few minutes. I'm going to see what they have in Meguiars and Zaino.
  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    Zaino, unfortunately, is not available in stores. According to the Zaino website, the only recommend PREMIUM top quality 100% cotton towels such as Cannon brand, etc..

    Here is the link with more info should you be interested in learning more about Zaino:

    I will be shortly placing an order for some of their products for my new 01 Impala LS.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    Thanks for the info. I may just stick to cotton towels. I bet you're enjoying that new car of yours!
  • zzoom1zzoom1 Posts: 31
    When I feel really ambitious, I wash car, dry, let it cool, put on a coat of Kit Scratch Out, buff, and then wax with good old Kit Carnauba Wax.I've been burned a couple of times using synthetic waxes as they have not been able to buff out easily, but I think a straight Carnauba wax is the best way to go.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    I've always used Zip Wax for washing cars. And I'm ashamed to say that I've never waxed a car. Too much muscle work!! I guess right now, as long as the water keeps beading up, I don't need to do anything but wash it.

    I looked up Meguiars and Zaino on the internet and according to their web pages, they say you have to buy every product they sell to maintain your car. Even if I wanted to spend the money, that's too much work.

    I'll have to find a middle of the road plan for maintaining the car's exterior!
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    Zaino is one of the easiest products to apply and it buffs off without any effort (after you let it dry completely). It creates the best shine I have ever seen. And you don't have to buy every item in the product line.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    The question becomes - what to buy and what not to buy. Which product are you using? Is it the Z2?
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    Z1, Z2, and Z6 are all that's needed

    I also get the leather and rubber products, but that's because I want to.
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    Do you strictly use Zaino or do you use store bought products as well? I'd rather find something in a store to use. I wondered what would be comparible to the Zaino products you mentioned in Maguires.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    I tried zaino; bought the whole package. I wasn't THAT imperssed by it ( i had clayed & polished & waxed my cars before ) so i did a test. I did 1/2 the hood with their whole process, dawn, clay, dawn, z2, z5, z6 ,z5 ,z6 , z5 ,z6. Looked pretty darn good. The other side i washed, clayed, washed, and used a normal polish and wax. Looked just as good, and lasted as long, too! I don't think zaino is worth the extra money, by a long shot. I think any benefit you may see from Z is by adding steps you never did before. How many people clayed before they tried Z?

    Waxing really follows the law of diminishing returns. $4 wax and 1/2 an hour will get you 90%. $8 wax and 1 hour will get you 95%. $16 wax and 2 hours will gt you 97%. Etc.

    All IMHO.

  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    What is that all about?

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