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Dodge Intrepid



  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,038
    ...funny you'd mention legroom being lacking, because that's exactly my biggest complaint about my 2000 Intrepid! On the few times I've ridden in my car as a passenger, though, I think it's even worse on that side!

    I don't remember how the '93-97 Intrepid was, but on the '98-00, the footwell on the passenger side only extends as far forward as the dead pedal on the driver's side.

    I think it's kinda funny that they tout "cab forward" styling and space efficiency and yadda-yadda-yadda, but I swear my Intrepid has less legroom than either my '89 Gran Fury or even my '68 Dart! Don't get me wrong, overall I'm still happy with the car.

    I have noticed though, that I'm more comfortable in LH cars with a power driver's seat. I'm guessing your '96 has power, if it's an ES. So it's still a little tight, even with the seat adjusted all the way back?

  • abbanatabbanat Posts: 57
    Yeah, the dead pedal is all the legroom I get in the '96 ES. In contrast, the Stratus I used to own (my parents now own it) and which I drove this past week, has tons of legroom behind the brake, so when I squeeze my foot behind it, I can stretch my leg all the way. Very helpful on a long drive like the one I just did from Sac to LA and back. I do have the power driver's seat and legroom is okay if I push the seat all the way back, but then my arms are too far from the steering wheel. Oh well. My favorite solution is to tilt the front of the seat up, so that lifts my legs, provides lower thigh support and let's me stretch my legs a little bit. Without the power seat I would be in trouble. I don't really have very long legs (long torso and headroom is usually the problem) but you're right on about the cab forward design. I think the back seat passengers get better treatment than those in front! I had a hell of a time trying to find a place to install my electronic brake controller (We tow a popup) that didn't scrape up against my legs. Great car, though...when everything is working properly.

    Andre, what type of mixed driving fuel economy do you get with your 2.7? Was telling my wife that after we get a minivan I may want a second car that gets better fuel economy than the Intrepid and it will be pretty high up there in mileage by that time as well. If the 2.7 gets decent fuel economy I may consider it, but if not, then we will probably look at a 4-cylinder Accord, 4-cylinder Saturn L series, or maybe the new Jetta wagon. Also, how are the front seats in the 2.7? You mentioned you had the base model, correct?
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,038
    yeah, I have the base model with the 2.7. The front seats aren't bad, but I just wish there was more legroom. I'm 6'3", and a diproportionate amount of that is in my legs, so to me legroom is critical.

    Normally, in a car with power seats, I'll put the seat back as far as it will go, raise the front, and drop the back, which gives a bit better thigh support. Still, even though my car doesn't have power seats, they're pretty comfortable. I drove almost non-stop from DC to Houston back in January, and my rear-end wasn't hurting THAT bad! In comparison, the Malibu rental car I had down in Florida a few weeks ago hurt my butt after about 20 minutes.

    As for mileage, I've gotten anywhere from just under 20 mpg to just over 30 mpg. I used to deliver pizzas though, which probably skewed the city #'s down. Last time I filled up, I think I got about 23 mpg to the tank, which was mainly driving to and from work, getting stuck in traffic on the DC Beltway, and just goofing around in general.

    I think it gets great mileage, but then I previous daily driver, my '89 Gran Fury, only got about 13 mpg, and would just break 20 on a trip.

    It hasn't been a perfect car, but considering that for over a year I was racking up about 350 miles a week just delivering pizzas, I'd say it's proven to be a pretty tough car. I'm about to hit 45,000 miles, in just over 18 months of ownership.

    I'd recommend the car, but if I had to do it over again, I'd get one with a power driver's seat!

  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    The Intrepid was the top placing North American car in the J.D Powers Quality survey. It placed 14 with 99 defects per 100 cars. The LHS placed 15 with 101 defects per 100 cars. Then the Concorde was 27 with 111 defects per 100 cars .Last was the 300 M way down in 92 place with 149 defects per 100 cars. Very strange the gap between the cars as they are all built on the same line, by the same people. Makes you wonder how accurate this stuff is.
  • mmackenzie1mmackenzie1 Posts: 13
    with my 93 intrepid es. Now has a mind of its own. Typically blows hot air through defrost vents, even if I set the temp at 60. Typical problem? Can it be fixed?
  • wilsoncj6wilsoncj6 Posts: 10
    I had a 96 intrepid as and loved it, but with baby #3 on the way had to get a, I hate to say it, mini van! we went and bought a 97 ply mouth grand voyager as with the 3.3 that I had in my intrepid. after a test drive I was hooked! already took it to florid and had a MUCH better drive than when we used to drive the intrepid. but I do miss her a little!!! i had her for 2 1/2 years and the only prob i ever had was when the a/c belt broke. i read about tranny probs in this discussion and the chrysler van discussion, and i have a question. do i have the same tranny in both vehicles? i hope so because i have nothing but love for the intrepid tranny! thanks!
  • wilsoncj6wilsoncj6 Posts: 10
    i had a 96 intrepid es and loved it, but with baby #3 on the way had to get a, i hate to say it, minivan! we went and bought a 97 plymouth grand voyager es with the 3.3 that i had in my intrepid. after a test drive i was hooked! already took it to florida and had a MUCH better drive than when we used to drive the intrepid. but i do miss her a little!!! i had her for 2 1/2 years and the only prob i ever had was when the a/c belt broke. i read about tranny probs in this discussion and the chrysler van discussion, and i have a question. do i have the same tranny in both vehicles? i hope so because i have nothing but love for the intrepid tranny! thanks!
  • wilsoncj6wilsoncj6 Posts: 10
    i had to repost that last one after not reading the spell check instructions!
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380

    the tranny in the minivan is basically the same as the one in the intrepid, except for the differential parts/logitudinal vs transverse layout. the diff in the intrepid is much more durable than the one in the minivan. however, in late 99 or 2000 the differential in the minivan was significantly upgraded. this all according to my chrysler service tech friend.
  • jsylvesterjsylvester Posts: 572
    The info I saw had the Intrepid 2nd only to the Toyota Avalon in it's "class", with the Concorde first in it's class.

    All being said, evidence suggests the LH sedans are probably not only Chrysler's best design, but also their best built platform. Add the fact they are putting huge rebates on them to sell, it is a very wise choice.

    Congrats on a good job at the factory.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,038
    ...maybe they could use it as the basis for some other new designs. They could base an SUV off of it, like how Lexus did with the Toyota Camry.

    I know station wagons are all but dead, but Chrysler could build a wagon off of it to compete with the Taurus. Chrysler led the charge to reasonably sized yet roomy wagons back in the 70's with the Aspen and Volare.

    I'd also like to see an LH coupe/convertible, but I know that's too much to hope for! Most people would probably think that an LH 'vert would be too big, but to me that's the way a convertible should be...big, stylish, and roomy enough to carry more than just you and one friend in comfort!

    The Sebring is a good try, and one of the roomiest convertibles out there (heck, if I had the money I'd trade the Intrepid on one now that they use Chrysler V-6's), but I'd just prefer something bigger.

  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    I have heard that a rag top version of the 300N will be made for 2004 model. This is not 100% official , just what has been told to me by people in the know at the plant.. Lets hope it is 100 % true.
  • abbanatabbanat Posts: 57
    It seems the American segment that is embracing wagons have a limit to the size of wagon that interests them. For example, from my observations, wagons like the Passat, the Saturn L, the Outback, A6, etc were all well-proportioned good looking vehicles. In contrast, public perception of the largest wagon, the Ford Taurus, has deteriorated. People equate the Taurus with old-style station wagons as opposed to a Passat that is considered hip and edgy. I'm not exactly sure why but I can use my wife as a perfect example: she would absolutely love to have a Passat wagon or Outback, but will have nothing to do with a Taurus wagon. I think an LH wagon would suffer the same fate as the Taurus wagon because the LH platform is so big and wide. I would personally like to see one, and think it could be attractive based on the current generation LH vehicles, I just don't think the public would respond. I think a wagon based on the new Stratus/Sebring platform might appeal to more people: Small, chunky (in wagon form), attractive, sporty, and roomy. All-wheel drive would also increase its appeal. Contrary to what many believe, I think people in California buy 4wd SUVs, light-trucks, and wagons (like the A4, A6, Outback, GC, T&C) to avoid chain controls on their once-a-year trip to the Sierras than for any other reason. This may explain the popularity of the Outback in California. I don't know what it is about wagons....far too many people think they're uncool. The next generation will probably despise SUVs as much as the current does station wagons.
  • 300m_vt300m_vt Posts: 32
    on our way to a Montreal vs. Mets ball game last night was passed by a CHRYSLER Intrepid. (the badges on the side and rear said Chrysler NOT Dodge). Has anyone else seen these, what's different if anything other than badges. By the way Mets won 4-2. This was observed in Canada...Route 20
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,038
    I think we may have had this discussion before, but I can't remember any more, so here's what I know (or think I know) about 'em.

    I don't think the names "Dodge" and "Plymouth" were ever marketed much outside of the United States, so the simply the name "Chrysler" was often put on their cars. I used to know a guy who owned a 1966 or so Chrysler Valiant. It was a '66 Dart with a Valiant front-end, and a Chrysler badge.

    I've also seen pictures of a 1963 or '64 Canadian Chrysler with the badge "Saratoga" on the side, which I thought would be impossible, since the Saratoga was discontinued here after 1960, in a move to distance Chrysler from the more upscale Imperial.

    So, Canadian Mopar offerings have always been a little different from U.S. offerings. In fact, my stepfather's uncle had a 1941 Canadian DeSoto, whichb was just a Plymouth with a DeSoto grille. I think it may have been called a Diplomat...I know that name was used in export markets for years.

    So, the Intrepid is just marketed in Canada as a Chrysler instead of a Dodge. But it makes me wonder...can you get a Concorde in Canada, too?

  • 300m_vt300m_vt Posts: 32
    Thanks, I'll keep my eyes peeled next time I'm in Canada for a Concorde and report back.
  • dmceresidmceresi Posts: 3
    I have a 1995 Dodge Intrepid 3.5L V6, and I am looking for faster acceleration. I was wondering if there are any aftermarket performance upgrades available that are not too expensive. I do not want nitrous, as I have heard too many bad stories.

    Any suggestions are appreciated.
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    Yes all Intrepids are baged Chryslers in Canada. Why? good question ,as we can get a Dodge or Chrysler minivan,a Dodge Neon ,a Dodge Stratus ,a Dodge Ram and Dakota and a Dodge Viper . To me this is dumb marketing. Yes you can get a Concorde in Canada,and a 300M and LHS . Did you know all LH cars are built in Canada? The funniest thing to see is a Intrepid R/T baged as a Chrysler R/T ,just does not sound or look right. Dodge R/T now thats more like it .
  • eeeleeel Posts: 57
    see if you can find a picture of the chrysler citadel - i think that's what it's called and i think it is still scheduled for production - it's a beauty - was at the auto shows
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    i think the citadel is based on the minivan platform?
  • eeeleeel Posts: 57
    i thought i read it was based on the lh platform - i'll try and look at past magazines and see.
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380

    check out this cut and paste from the original citadel may have been based on the lh platform, but it appears that the production version will be built on the minivan platform.

    "The new vehicle, code-named CS, uses design cues from the Chrysler Citadel concept car, but is built on the Grand Caravan platform and in the Grand Caravan plant. It is powered by the 3.5 liter V6, and will reportedly be available with both front and all wheel drive. Prices are set in the mid to upper $30,000 range."
  • eeeleeel Posts: 57
    thanks- i knew we'd figure it out - sharp looking wagon - upper 30's - don't know if people will pay that for a mopar - what do you think
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    don't have the slightest clue how popular it would be, but not something i'd likely look at for purchase anyway.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,038
    ...I know I wouldn't pay it, but the way inflation is going, I guess we'll get there, eventually!

    I remember looking at a fully loaded Intrepid ES in the showroom for the first time...must've been around 93-94. I was shocked that the thing had a $25K window sticker. I was thinking "25K for a Dodge...what's the world coming to!"

    Buick is another one that I've noticed has really crept up there. When I was a kid, my grandparents bought a brand new '85 LeSabre, just about fully loaded, for $16,200. Nowadays, I've seen LeSabres with $30K stickers, and Park Avenues pushing $40K!

    I don't think I've caught up with the times yet, because to me $30-40K is Cadillac territory! So until Chrysler slaps an Imperial badge on something (and something worthwhile, this time!), I don't think it should be in that range! (But then, isn't Cadillac territory more like $50K+ by now?)

  • eeeleeel Posts: 57
    i know what you mean about the prices but - i've bought 3 lh cars new (93 vision/95 & 98 intrepid)
    and got them much cheaper than priced. the 93 vision listed at 20k - got it for 16.5k
    95 intrepid 19k - got it for 17.2 - the 98 intrepid was 21k - paid 19.1 and i think i may have been able to do better on the 2 dodges (not the eagle - that was the best deal i've gotten on a new car) but actually i was quite happy with the prices. i guess my point is you can most always get them at a lower price. still have the eagle by the way - still running strong at 135k
  • temprontempron Posts: 8
    I have not checked in for a couple of months. My black 2001 Intrepid ES is just perfect. No problems whatsoever. This car is slowly improving the overall quality of my life not only because I love it so much, but also how little it cost! I am a guy who spent too many years paying big bucks for status cars. For those that may be considering a purchase, if my reports seem to good to be true feel free to mail me.
  • erict3erict3 Posts: 1
    I just bought a 1999 Intrepid ES with 60,000 mi.
    Paid 13,500. I love the way the car drives and handles. Gas milage 23 a gal.

    Any advice would be helpful
  • My 95 Intrepid seems to have all the usual Intrepid symptoms at 75,000 miles

    - Transmission use to not switch gears smoothly, now it is stuck in first gear. I called the dealler and he says that the computer puts it in safe mode when something is wrong with the tranny. Dealler says could be a lot of different things. I have seen some web sights and they have a number of things to try. Meanwhile, the mechanic wants 1800 to rebuild it, but I read here that it should cost 2,000 for a new one.

    - Before the transmission problem, the car was pulling back when driving on the highway.

    - My Water pump and timming belt went about a month ago (they charged me $1,000 for it.)

    - The rear tires are wearing on the inside, they seem to go out of allignment easily (happened to a friend of mine as well.)

    Read other notes in this stream for ideas
  • abbanatabbanat Posts: 57
    I have a '96 Intrepid ES 3.5 liter.

    -$1,000 for timing belt and water pump seems really high. I had my timing belt replaced for around $200-$250 and I know the water pump is not an expensive part.

    -I just had my tires rotated, have been doing that every 5,000 miles. My tire center says to rotate them every 3,000 miles. They seemed to mention something about uneven wear. I have the service contract with my tires (free rotations)so they had no incentive to lie to me on that one. It may help your tires wear better.

    -My transmission went out at 65k miles. Sounds like yours is in limp-home mode. My mechanic told me it could be several things as well, but couldn't find out until they looked at it. Apparently I needed a rebuild, and it cost me over $2k. If you do rebuild it, try installing an auxiliary transmission cooler to further protect it. That is, if you plan to keep the car for any length of time.

    Good luck!
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