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Acura RL



  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Peak Power: 300 HP @ 6300 rpm
    Peak Torque: 265 lb.-ft @ 5000 rpm (95% or more from 2500 rpm)
    Redline: 6800 rpm
    Curb Weight: 3850 lb.

    0-60: 6.2s-6.5s
    Skidpad: ~0.85g (assuming Acura is aggressive with rubber)
    Top Speed: 150+ mph (also depending on tires, if Acura chooses to go with higher rating)
    Wheels: 17"
  • proeproe Posts: 157
    Peak Power: 300 HP @ 6000 rpm
    Peak Torque: 280 lb.-ft @ 5500 rpm (85% bofore 2500 rpm)
    Redline: 6500 rpm
    Curb Weight: 3500 lb.

    0-60: 5.6s-6.0s
    1/4 mile: 13.6s at 106 mph
    Max land change speed: 65 mph
    60-0: 150 feet
    70-0: 160 feet
    Skidpad: 0.90 g (I wish it would be 1.00 g)
    Top Speed: 160 mph
    Wheels: 18" performance tire
    Estimate mpg: 20 city, 22 freeway
  • cericceric Posts: 1,092
    proe, is it a typo? 60-0 in 150ft is very very bad. 70-0 in 160ft is very good. A car does not drop from 70 to 60 in 10ft. There must be a typo.

    Anyway, my take (I base my numbers on TL's and my BMW 540iA's).

    Peak Power: 300 HP
    Peak Torque: 270 lb.-ft
    Redline: 6500 rpm
    Curb Weight: 3750 lb.
    0-60: 5.6s-6.0s
    1/4 mile: 14.0s
    60-0: 120 feet
    70-0: 160 feet
    Skidpad: 0.90+ g
    Top Speed: 160 mph
    Wheels: 17" standard, optional 18"
    Estimate mpg: 20 city, 25 freeway

    jrock65, my previous number about GS sales was wrong. I took the Lexus car sales number and deduct ES/LS sales from it. I forgot the IS sales entirely. My mistake. Your number seems right. However, it further reinforce my point. Achieving 1000 unit sales for new RL is not an easy task.
  • prophet2prophet2 Posts: 372
    ..... different strokes for different folks.

    I'm with the pro-Acura crowd. I liked most of their offerings: most notable exception being the re-badged Isuzu Trooper.

    The '05 RL is my kind of car, a good balance of style, power, features. Even their limited color choices are sufficiently appealing (I'm color-blind, anyway).

    I may opt to wait and pick up a "pre-owned" one after its owner tires of it or is persuaded to trade for the next new toy .......
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    I think Robertsmx has the engine and weight pretty well pegged.

    Peak Power: 300 HP @ 6300 rpm
    Peak Torque: 265 lb.-ft @ 5000 rpm (95% or more from 2500 rpm)
    Redline: 6800 rpm
    Curb Weight: 3850 lb.

    I'm also expecting 0-60 times in the low 6 second range. Despite the weight, I think the SH-AWD design will help the car hit 0.88 or 0.90 on the skidpad. 60-0 braking will probably be about 130ft. Hondas tend to have mediocre stopping distances.
  • machaanmachaan Posts: 30
    Historically Hondas and Acuras have poor breaks and weeny torque.

    Peak Power: 333 HP just for bragging rights
    Peak Torque: <200lb-ft @ any sane RPM
    Breaking: 60-0: 166 ft
    MPG: best in class

    Acura will make up for this by offering everthing including fridge and kitchen sink as standard.
  • jrock65jrock65 Posts: 1,371
    "However, it further reinforce my point. Achieving 1000 unit sales for new RL is not an easy task."

    I do see your point.

    But even though the GS only sells about 800 per month now, it did sell about 2500 per month for a couple years.

    Anyways, it's all conjecture at this point. A lot of it will depend on pricing as well.

    My predictions:

    price: $48,000
    horsepower: 300
    torque: 270
    0 to 60: 6.0s
    average sales per month: 1300
  • legendmanlegendman Posts: 362
    >For me the issue with the current RL was not so much the exterior styling, it was a poor choice of exterior colors, and the cheapening of the interior, using plastic faux fake wood (that's fake x2)<

    "That is incorrect. RL comes with Burl Camphor Wood (and, like everything else, it is not an option)".

    What model year? The models I saw were made of plastic and the dealer comfirmed that fact.
  • talon95talon95 Posts: 1,110
    Regarding the 2004 RL, from Edmunds' coverage of the 2003 Chicago Auto Show:

    "Meanwhile, the center console is covered in burled camphor wood."
  • And this is from the Acura website for the 2004 RL - "The center console is trimmed with hand-selected burled camphor wood crafted by woodworkers in Japan."
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    What model year? The models I saw were made of plastic and the dealer comfirmed that fact.
    Confirmed fact? My boss drives a 2002 RL and it has burled camphor wood trim.
  • The RL has always had real wood veneer, the previous Legend had real wood also only the L base model was plastic.. Don't know why they don't add the real thing in the TL as every Lexus has real wood.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    In case of TL, Acura is using real brushed aluminum trim instead of faux aluminum trim that some others are. IMO, Honda&#146;s faux wood trim is quite good, and looks like real wood (until you knock on it). But then, it is just that, a trim. I would rather have standard CD changer than standard wood trim in my car. Oh well, give me both, as long as there is no overcharging involved.

    In the Japanese market, Honda doesn&#146;t shy away from offering a choice of real wood in its vehicles. The following are interior pictures of Honda Inspire (similar to American Accord)
    With Walnut Trim
    With Brushed Aluminum Look

    Inspire&#146;s interior is similar to Acura TSX&#146;s.
  • ksomanksoman Posts: 593
    damn i wanna drive on the other side of the road!
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    This is where I get kicked out of the luxury car forums, but here we go...

    I'd rather have plood. A good plastic wood facsimile does the job for me. As long as it looks real, I'm happy.

    Most burl woods come from harvesting old growth trees. These trees are hard to come by and often serve a strong role in their environment. Chopping them down for car interiors doesn't seem like a good plan to me. Especially since the manufacturers protect the wood with a thick plastic coating anyway. Might as well be plastic!

    As long as I'm chiming in, I'll say that I agree with what someone was posting earlier. Wood and brushed metal are accent materials. They should not cover the whole dash.
  • rarirorariro Posts: 1
    i had these problems in my 96rl after my warrant,
    110k miles now
    1)4 automatic window opener broken(All four glass)
    2)radiator broken
    3)passenger side door handle broken.

    All others work wonderful.
  • acuraphileacuraphile Posts: 131
    Indisputably, my '96 RL has Burl Camphor Wood trim; all that's faux, are the claims contesting that. The trim is spare enough so as not to be ostentatious. I would have preferred that the wood not be coated and that it had a matte finish. It does have the appearance of quality, despite the glisten. However, who among us has a bedroom suite consisting of Burl Camphor Wood? LOL!!Any suitable color and grain would have done the job without the "BCW" badge! So, what counts is the appearance of quality when it involves trim. Assuredly, most (or none) of us had ever HEARD of Burl Camphor sounds like something used to fend off moths in your clothing closet!
    Aesthetically, I do have a small objection to the metal console in the 2005 RL. The two lines of metal that frame the side, extend too far and seem to go nowhere at the bottom; IMHO, they should have ended at the bottom and framed the entire enclosure.Instead, they hang like two lines holding up a goal post.The lines need "resolution."

    My Thoughts on Prospective Specs:

    Horsepower: 300
    Torque: 275
    0-60: 6 sec.
    Rims: 18 inch (17 inch not "progressive" enough.
    Price: $49,000

    I agree with previous posts that assert that the new RL, though not dramatic in it's styling, can endure. "Refined" and "somewhat bland" are descriptions that don't provoke heated controversy; mild dismay, perhaps, but not real contention. If the RL's innards prove to be powerful, sophisticated and ergonomically comfortable, this could dilute any prospective disappointment with the exterior. Can hardly wait!
  • pearlpearl Posts: 336
    Amen, brother! I am with you 1000%. I am fed up with the hedonistic, "gotta have mine" attitude at the expense of the planet. And you are right, since all of the wood is covered by some sort of plastic anyway, what's the difference. Just make it out of high quality plastic (or aluminum, etc) and be done with it. The types of wood most coveted for dash boards is that most endangered. We are already doing a great job in cutting down the remaining teak, oak, cedar, redwood, etc, etc, of any consequence with significant impacts to wildlife, environment, etc. Let 'em be. We can't tell the difference between plastic-coated teak and plastic-looking teak anyway. Thanks for posting your views.
  • prophet2prophet2 Posts: 372
    From THE GRADUATE, 1967, to Benjamin Braddock:
    One word ...... PLASTICS!
  • ksomanksoman Posts: 593
    I think, though I'd love for trees not to be cut, I think (most time I don't), pound to a pound, aluminum or plastic is more harmful to produce than wood, atleast most wood trees can be re-planted, but aluminum, plastics need chemical belching huge activities, mining, etc... etc... etc...

  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    But I think a pound of aluminum may be able to cover more surface than a pound of wood. ;-)
  • ksomanksoman Posts: 593
    i think you are forgetting the concept of veeneers, which is what is used for any overlays....

    when they tell you they are using some chickory dickory wood in your car, they are not using solid chiseled blocks of wood... its just veneers or veeneers, however they are spelled...

  • jeff88jeff88 Posts: 94
    Count me in as one who loves the look of the genuine walnut used in the rl but would be glad for a very nice facsimile of the same in pure plastique for environmental concerns. Plastique sounds better...genuine solid burled walnetted plastique with finely brushed aluminium. :)

    '05 rl mpg (my guess) will be more like 19 city, 28 highway based on what I've seen acura deliver with their 5 sp auto in the tl and tsx. it should be tracking about 2000 rpm at 75 mph and with it's decent aerodynamics, give a nice highway return on gas. hauling around awd and a bigger body than the tl, it will deliver less in stop-and-go.

    Oh yeah, agree with this no-brainer, '04 tl takes the '04 rl in less than 2 rounds.

    spent the weekend bombing around northern OH and western PA with old friends in an a4 1.8 quattro with 5 sp and loved driving it. was pretty impressed with a 1.8 litre 4 delvering smooth power up and down the curve. interesting in that it only gets around 26 mpg highway but revs were well over 3 grand at 75 mph. still, it hummed along nicely. my other partner has a new clk 320 and it was very fine too. but nothing compares to the 35' sailboat we launched from Catawba island sailing the weekend around the Erie Islands -- never thought 8 nauts could be that much fun. 1st mate duties require large amounts of food and drink too, was clocking about 3 beers per afternoon high seas, 2-3 glasses wine docked.
  • jeff88jeff88 Posts: 94
    we keep cross posting. whattsamatta U?
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Hey now! There is no requirement in the TH rules saying that posts have to make sense! =)

    With old growth trees, it's a bit more complicated than just replanting. The environments where these trees survive tend to be those where mankind has not yet intruded. The trees are very old and, even if replanted, will not reach the maturity of an old growth tree for well over 100 years.

    Okay, eco-rant over. Sorry about the topic shift.
  • logic1logic1 Posts: 2,433
    recently that used black glass on the dash.

    I think it looked great.

    Glass is made with sand and heat. A well run glass works can be very eco-friendly.
  • prophet2prophet2 Posts: 372
    I put in 550+ square feet of laminate flooring in my home last year. It's an "engineered" product of compressed wood by-products (like particle board) with a laminated top (like Formica) of a pretty good-looking maple grain. Went down pretty easily and quickly once I got the hang of it. Looks like a $6K job that cost about $1.2K for materials.

    I'm thinking of putting more in as the W-T-W carpeting wears out.

    In cars, I don't think that the wood vs. plastic veneer for accent trim is that big a deal.
  • carlisimocarlisimo Posts: 1,280
    jeff88: "plastique"? "bombing around"?

    uh oh!
  • ksomanksoman Posts: 593
    haha carlismo, well caught, i dont want my RL to smell of RDX or something...

    Hey Jeff, what's going on? On the other hand, I'm thinking of making a Seattle to Jersey drive in a free '96 A6....

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