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Acura RL



  • olneymdolneymd Posts: 14
    i have the 05 RL with a Verizon Motorola V710 bluetooth phone. The hands-free works great after a quick set-up, but with VERIZON, you don't get the battery level and signal strength on the car's display. ALSO -- and a big disappointment..... your V710 phonebook does not link into the car. In other words - you have to create a new voice-rec directory in the acura which has no ties to your actual cell phone.

    BTW - the car is beyond awesome.
  • Quote: "I agree with your wood/console statement. My 91 Legend has it. Wood around the shift area would greatly improve the luxury look. It seems the '05 RL's hype is technology--very clever of Acura to reap mark-up dollars from people for a lot of features that will go mostly unused like a new toy 1 month after Christmas! Beware the buyer that purchases solely on technology, as the competition will "one-up" it very soon.

    After test driving a 2005 BMW 530i with Navigation, I was totally amazed at how terrible the interface (iDrive) and features of the navigation unit was compared to my 1999 TL's navigation unit. 6 years later and the "competition" hasn't "one-up(ped)" my navigation unit.

    Acura has always been on the leading edge of technology, and quite surprisingly, has rarely released any new technology that was faulty or inadequate from a usability stand point. I would be hard pressed to find ANY car manufacturer, or even third party/aftermarket, navigation unit superior to the RL's navigation unit and other various cabin technology (blue tooth, etc.).

    I only wish the competition (BMW, Audi, Mercedes) could "one up" Acura in the technology game - then we would have more than one player!
  • No doubt, Acura is top drawer on technology, navigation and ergonomics. Rest assured the "other guys" won't take it laying down, though. Lexus is beating everyone to the punch in the release of the first(?) Luxury Hybrid AWD--RX400h in Feb '05. If the '05 RL had been a Hybrid as well as SH-AWD--how do the "kids" today say it--it would have been "da bomb", "sick", etc...! I hope Acura has a good patent on SH-AWD...phenomenal technology and concept.

    BMW finally recognizes their flop of iDrive and flimsy cupholders, for instance. Now, if they and their German counterparts could figure out the reliability thing. In this economy, even the wealthy begin to look at reliability alongside prestige. The internet is fantastic--it allows the everyday consumer to call a spade...a spade, and make sure everyone who cares to know...knows. I believe the Japanese are almost "there" in becoming the "official" undisputed king of the Luxury market. BMW and Mercedes have been basking in their glory of the 80's, getting caught "asleep at the switch". No smoke and mirrors for this educated consumer!
  • >>big disappointment..... your V710 phonebook does not link into the car. In other words - you have to create a new voice-rec directory in the acura which has no ties to your actual cell phone.

    I'd read that earlier, which was a big disappointment to me as well, but at least I wasn't surprised after I bought the RL and the phone.

    An aside - while reading the guide, a very funny picture entered my mind of a couple with a great disparity in height who both drive the RL. Since the memorized seat positions are tied to the key fob and the RL assumes the first one to unlock a door is the driver, if the short passenger has his/her key fob and unlocks the passenger door (or if the driver has the wrong key fob) and then the tall driver gets in and starts the car, the seat will immediately move very far forward. This could be a great surprise to the unwary!!
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    We're just a victim of the rising Canadian buck. For years when the Cdn $ was low, the situation was reversed. I suppose Honda should adjust the Canadian MSRP to reflect the higher exchange, but they would likely argue that for years they suffered exchange losses.
  • tls02tls02 Posts: 20
    While stopping at a Acura Dealer yesterday, I bumped into an elderly couple just picking up their new RL. The first thing that the lady said to me was that she did not like the car. They have had 2 prior RL's and bought this one on their prior happy experience. What she did not like was: 1) Too complicated, (I did say Elderly) 2) There is a high floor hump in the back and a tall person cannot sit in the middle seat in the back. I'm 5'11" and I tried to sit there, and my head was pressed against the roof!

    Have any of you noticed that? It appears that 4 people can fit very comfortable, but the 5th better be a child.

    In Long Island, NY the dealers are scheduling test drives by appointment only. I'm doing mine on Thursday. Just sitting in the car, I thought that it looked fantastic in Ebony. I was afraid that the dark wood would not show well; but it gives a very rich look! White/Ebony or Silver/Ebony?????? Tough choice. (I'm still stuck on 50K for an Acura..., I know, I know it's still the best value around...)
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    I don’t think any midsize sedan can take five adults comfortably. In fact, for five adults, a minivan makes more sense.
  • tls02tls02 Posts: 20
    Good point! Anyway, the kids are out of the house now, so who cares?!
  • "White/Ebony or Silver/Ebony?????? Tough choice..."

    I haven't seen White/Ebony in person, but I think the contrast is "too much" for my taste. Which "Silver" do you refer to: Lakeshore, Celestial or Meteor?
  • Honda can argue as much as they want about the exchange rates but we have a North American Auto Pact that allow free flow of vehicles between the borders. I don't know about you but if I was interested in the 2005 RL, why would I pay $10,000CDN more that driving 2 hours to Buffalo or Seattle or Minneapolis,etc and buy one.
    There will always be some difference(us paying more) but not $10,000CDN! The car isn't worth it.
    The Lexus GS430 is still cheaper and it's not a Honda.
    Have a great day;
  • From what I was able to glean from the RL Canadian brochure, it appears the ventilation to the seats is most likely diverted AC (probably fed via a duct system).

    I know this may sound odd, but I'd soliciting opinions (or facts if you know) about putting this on a US RL. I would imagine the basic seat is the same but am up in the air about what else might be different. I know Acura (Honda) is smart enough to not make them too different and I'm assuming the US didn't get the AC seats in order to keep the MSRP under $50K.

    I've got a white RL coming in this week and will be traveling to Canada in the spring so I'm hoping to have an opportunity to stop into an Acura dealership and see for myself. If any Canadians are reading the forum perhaps you could "eyeball" the seats when you take a test drive or, better yet, post a pix or two if you are buying an '05.

    Living in Houston, Texas would be a whole lot easier with AC seats!
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    I am not elderly but all those bells and whistles are a complete turnoff. I want a car to get me from point A to point B comfortably with reasonable handling period. I don't need satellite radio, bluetooth or navigation. A basic LS 430 should suit me just fine.
  • legendmanlegendman Posts: 362
    >I know this may sound odd, but I'd soliciting opinions (or facts if you know) about putting this on a US RL. I would imagine the basic seat is the same but am up in the air about what else might be different. I know Acura (Honda) is smart enough to not make them too different and I'm assuming the US didn't get the AC seats in order to keep the MSRP under $50K.<

    That's a great idea. I hope that you will keep us posted. There will be another Edmunds forum soon on the new RL (this forum will close shortly because the 2005 RL is no longer a "future" car).

    I live in Southern California, and while few places compare with Houston in the summer (well, maybe Bangkok) it gets pretty toasty here too. A cooled seat would be great here as well!

    I was very disappointed to learn that Acura had left the AC cooled seats off of the US version of the new RL, and confounded as to why they would offer it instead to our frozen friends way up north in Canada.

    Perhaps they plan to trot it out next year in order to freshen up the car with new goodies and other offerings.

    Please do let us know what you find out, and that goes for anyone else here who is interested in having that feature in their RL.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Acura RL and Base Lexus GS430 have similar MSRP in USA, and the same is true in Canada. So, whatever you just said applies as much to Acura as it does to Lexus.
  • legendmanlegendman Posts: 362
    I am sure that my father would echo your sentiments exactly. Nonetheless, I think that the trend for more advanced tecnhology in autos is a trend that is here to stay. I read a recent article just last night which predicted that most cars will have many of the electronic features that the new RL has by about 2008 (excluding SH-AWD).
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Have you considered ES330? It sounds like a paradox to spend $50K or more in a car and ask for less stuff. You should already see it here, too much is not enough.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 11,025
    Hey, I was on vacation for a few days, but I did just now look at the photo of your new RL. It's beautiful - congratulations!

    And welcome to those of you who joined this discussion while I was away - rrjohns, babs, carnutcpa, adam_kelley, bobb1, stevenr27, gantra, liy, boston1, lynnminny, guylegend, brew99, hmcelmur, manybmws, shawn3, cathyturner, soldamerican, wfj1998. If I missed your member name, well, welcome anyway! I love the excitement that this car is generating.


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  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Edmunds hosts/hostesses get vacations? I thought that's what they're doing when they hosting on Edmunds! :)
  • tls02tls02 Posts: 20
    Celestial Silver
  • aclcaclc Posts: 20
    How many entries can the car's directory hold?
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Vacation implied overtime.
  • tls02tls02 Posts: 20
    Robertsmix, I think that you misunderstood me. I did not say I thought that there was too much "stuff", I said that an Elderly Lady taking delivery said that. I like all that new electronics (although I don't think that we will use everything there.) As far as the ES330 goes, I did test drive it and did not like it at all. The car Floated down the road... (I call it the GM Float, like all of GM's old big cars from years ago.) I'm just trying to get around the price for an RL. If it was 47K, I would have bought one already. I know that it's silly to feel that way over 2K at this range, but I can't help it...
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    That was my response to hpowders.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    Actually, I drive a 2002 BMW 3 series. No bells and whistles. Just awesome performance. My lease is up next August and I want to move up to the luxury performance category. The Acura RL is probably too much of a good thing in my opinion. Too many distractions. Too much technology. As for satellite radio, it should be an option but don't throw it in for several months free when I have to remember to cancel it if I don't want it. The LS 430 is probably too sedate now that I think of it. I am really hoping the all wheel drive GS 300 will be the one. Can't wait to test drive one next spring.
  • kenw1kenw1 Posts: 30
    Hi bodble2: I got down to Lougheed Acura and they had 2 RLs - a white with black interior (sold) and a gray demonstrator. The demonstrator left the showroom on a test drive as I came in and I didn't have time to wait to test drive it. Neither color impressed me.

    Anyway, got some pricing info. MSRP is C$69,500 plus $1,200 PDI for a total of C$70,700 (approx. US$56,285). The Rear Parking Assistance is $1,136!! (I can get one installed at Speedy Auto for about $450.) The salesman said not to expect any discounts for a while as the number of cars coming to Canada is limited (they are imported from Japan). The lease interest rate is 7.4%. Residual value is 52% for 36 months (compared to 58% in the U.S.), 49% for 42 months, and 44% for 48 months.

    gbabaluk: Basically, you are right - we in Canada are getting screwed by Acura! By the way the RL in Alaska & Hawaii (without Nav and XM) is only US$48,165 (C$60,508)!

    I am now looking at the Audi A6 (details and a configurator are now on the website). MSRP for the A6 3.2 base is C$59,500. Fully loaded with Premium, Convenience, Navigation Pkgs, and Parktronic and the total comes to C$68,450 including $600 PDI. And Audi includes 48 months of free maintenance (with courtesy cars). However, their website does not have details for leases yet, so I don't know what their residuals and interest rates are.

    I think we Canadians need to send a message to Acura and boycott the RL (at least for 6 months) until they come to their senses and give us the same deal as they give the Americans (you lucky stiffs)! Meanwhile, maybe buy Audi or BMW (they have fantastic lease terms on the 3-Series).
  • the new RL is really sweet. the inteior is so beautiful, I would buy one any day.
  • prophet2prophet2 Posts: 372
    .... are useless in Hawaii and I'm glad they're deleted. MDXs were always brought in WITHOUT the NAV since they were introduced.

    Any citizen of Hawaii who needs NAV on a 604 sq. mile island deserves to have their driver's license revoked!
  • tlambtlamb Posts: 11
    Now that the 2005 RL is out in the public domain, what is current consensus vis-a-vis an E320 (with or without CDI Diesel aspect)? Or, for another point of reference, the current 5 Series (as an older 5 Series owner at present).

    I test drove an E320 today and was underwhelmed. The A/C didn't maintain a cool temperature while the limited driving was unspectacular.
  • HI Fellow Canadians,eh!
    I don't know what Acura thought when they set the prices. SO many "real" cars to choose from when you are spending over $70,000CDN!
    I currently own a G35 Sedan and was looking for another car with a little more luxury than sports, so I guess that I will wait until this spring for the new 2006 Infiniti M45, a real luxury car with a real luxury car engine, a V8.
    Sorry for venting on the Acura board but this car is really only worth about $60,000CDN, or about $48,000US!
    Have a great day everybody and GoodBye;
  • cericceric Posts: 1,092
    If it was 47K, I would have bought one already. I know that it's silly to feel that way over 2K at this range, but I can't help it...
    tls02, I feel the same way also. In my case, I think the fair value is about $46K. Wait a few months. The RLs will be in the fair price range, $46K to $47K. Hopefully, by that time, M and GS are ready to compete.
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