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Do you think that this is a fair price given that this is cash down for the dealer?
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Base invoice price: $29,278
Destination charge: $800
Not sure how much floormats cost, let's say $200. It seems $31,000 is more like $700 above invoice. Did I miss anything?
I'll go to the dealer this weekend to check out the van.
I liked the service of the dealer. Strongly recommend.
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BTW, two dealerships refused to match this price although I did tell them that I was buying it today. So I think I am close to the limit.
Most of the internet quotes I received where 37k range. Capitol toyota quoted their price of 36817 for a xle+prem packa without mats-msrp of 39200.
Fairfield gave me a a lowest of 36k, but i don't think they have the vehicle in stock.
The internet dept at Piercey toyota quoted me 37+. So I just walked in and negotiated with someone else. I worked with the salesperson named glaus. Bought the xle+prem package with floor carpet and door sill protector msrp 39524 at 36k without tax/fees.
1. Vehicle offered for sale (01/19/2010)
2. Maintenance inspection completed, Pre-delivery inspection completed (02/08/2010)
3. Vehicle offered for sale (02/19/2010)
What makes it even more strange is that for 1 and 2 above, the vehicle is listed to be at a completely different dealer. I am buying the car from a different dealer
The carfax report does say that there are no problems with the vehicle. but I am just a little concerned on why this vehicle has three records, and why was it with a different dealer and my dealer isnt even listed as having this vehicle even now!
Can anyone help here. If there is a problem, i will just change to a different vehicle (VIN)
I asked other south bay dealers. No other dealer would match this ads price. But the news paper ads was real. Because I got my sienna XLE :-)
The only problem is Toyota doesn't sell any base XLE sienna to LA area. All XLE there comes with Navi. package.
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My only other concern is that its been over two months that the vehicle has probably been parked outdoors on the lot in the harsh Minnesota Winter and i am wondering if that is harmful for the paint.
Should I ask for a newer vehicle since they are getting some that are fresh off the truck, or I shouldn't be too concerned!
The vehcile also has 30 miles on it as per the last carfax report from about a month back. I am assuming there would be some more miles clocked since then if there have been any test drives on the vehicle.
30 miles is not too much - about 3 or 4 test drives. Still check it out, and make sure that everything is good to you - Toyota has been having more problems with panel fit etc than previously.
As to sitting out - we have not had too much snow in the past 2 months - the roads are horrible (and salt on the road is the bigger problem, not sun exposure), but at 30 miles, it hasn't been on them too much. I think it would be ok, but if it's not exactly what you want, see if the dealer would be willing to do the same deal on a different one. Just be glad it hasn't been sitting out since before the Christmas storm
One other thing - while carfax reports "vehicle offered for sale" on Jan 19, that's when it went in the dealer's log, not necessarily when it arrived. IIRC, these vehicles did not show up on the lots for another week or two.
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Otd price already included Tax & TTL. (no extra warranty -just basic 36k mile or 3 yrs)
I also had $200 gift certificate + 2 yrs free oil change (incentive from Toyota if anyone in your family currently own a Toyota).
Bought the 2011 Limited about a month ago in Southern California, (when Sienna first came out, thought wasn't planning to buy it at the time with all the news about the gas pedal problem), with the Premium Package, and the additions that came with the car which included the floor mat/sill cover with Sienna logo, roof cross bars, and two plastic bins for the wells (behind the 3rd row).
The MSRP was $44,070s. Negotiated the price for a while, and had the price reduced by $3,000; which did not include TTL fees. After purchasing the car, I kept on checking the posts at Edmunds.com b/c I had buyer's remorse and I didn't want to feel that I overpaid by a wide margin. I noted that some people were able to get about $3300 up to about $3800 (amazing) below the MSRP, though they were for LEs and XLEs; thus could not do a fair comparison. Nevertheless, I figure $3K below MSRP when the car just came out, is not too bad. Hope others could do better (may be much better) for their Limited purchase
Also traded in a car at the time of Sienna purchase, though I made it clear at the dealership that I may or may not trade in the car, depending on the trade in value offered of course, and I was firm on settling on the price for the Sienna first, before talking about the trade in. At the end, I believe I got a fair price with the trade in.
During processing of the purchase, I was offered the extended warranty with Platinujm coverage for 8 yr/100,000 miles and no co-pay at a price of $2,000. Silly me, I didn't know I could negotiate this price also, and got it at face value. After buying the car, I did more extensive reading on other Edmund.com's posts, where I disovered some were able to get 7 yr (yes, seven and not eight yr)/100,000 miles (not sure about copay though) for $940. I went back to the dealership right away with a print out from the Edmunds post, obviously displaying my disatisfaction/anger with feeling of being ripped off. With some haggling, finally settled on a reduced price of $1,140, with the difference amount refunded to me.
In addition, with some effort, was able to get 2 yr free Toyota auto maintenace program (for previous Toyota/Xcion/Lexus owner) and the cargo net included.
Lastly, I want to add that the salesperson was great, non-pushy and very patient; and the public relations manager was superb who did lots of follow up calls and answered questions promptly. Also, received several follow up calls post the car purchase, and gave me the positive impression that customer service did not simply stop when I bought the car/left the dealership.
Hope above helps other potential Sienna Limited buyers and good luck !
MSRP: $35,604 incl. dest
Invoice: $32,916 incl. dest. This is what I paid, plus:
doc fee: $299
tax 7%
NJ DMV fees= about $450
Included in the invoice price is $800 destination, $10 gas, $500 TDA, $690 dealer holdback, and $345 wholesale fin'l reserve - whatever this is. There was no going any lower than paying the full invoice price. In fact, the sales mgr didn't want to sell me the car at invoice. When I got to the dealership, and my salesman presented the deal to sales mgr, he rejected it. He wanted to charge me $1500 more, because the car was so hard to come by. Fortunately, I had printed the email quote I got from my salesman, and I told them they had to honor it - which, after some discussions, they did. Not sure if this was an actual mistake by my salesman, or a silly dealership game. Moral of the story: get your quotes in writing before you go to the dealership - and bring it with you. Good luck!
I recently bought a 2011 Sienna. Here are the details
2011 Toyota Sienna 5dr 8-Pass Van V6 LE FWD
MSRP: $30,244
Got this for 28,600 + TTL (Renton, Washington) + 8yr/75,000 platinum warranty ($1225)
I wonder if that's something they'll consider--maybe throwing $1k loyalty on. My sense is that they'll need to do something because enough Toyota owners are abandoning ship to start hitting the bottom line.
This is getting a bit annoying. If you are trying to be helpful then BE helpful.
I am sure the dealership does not mind getting our business either.
"What a difference a month makes for Toyota, whose sales climbed 80 percent since February thanks to generous incentives and more balanced headlines," observed Jessica Caldwell, director of Industry Analysis for Edmunds.com. "At this point, Toyota seems to be making large strides in reinstating its good name and appealing to car-shoppers."
Hurry up and buy now before the 0% disappears or they run out of stock.
I don't think 0% is on Sienna, anyway. You can't include Sienna in that discussion, anyway, since there really weren't any Sienna's on sale in February.
Besides, 80% since February--their worst month in how long--is not saying all that much.
This is like a 2-month old model. If prices on it went UP during the rest of the year, that would be fairly unprecedented. But we'll see. I'm one of these buyers that don't need to buy and won't unless they make it worth my while--that goes for Honda, too--who is not being particularly aggressive on the Odyssey right now.
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Been browsing this site for quite awhile and finally negotiated for a black 2011 XLE with premium pkg. It took about a week for the van to arrive, but picked it up yesterday. Our price 36,600 +TTL. I really couldn't do any better, maybe 36,300 if I waited another month, but no premium models anywhere in southern AL/MS/LA. Not terrible, but understand many of you did better, but a very limited selection in the deep south. I did have a USAA Car Buying service quote at 35,100, but they didn't have the vehicle available and that drive was 6 hours away. All in all, happy with the purchase, very nice van. I feel a very good improvement over our base 2004 Sienna LE. Our dealer was Springhill Toyota in Mobile, AL. Also, Toyota of New Orleans was very competitive, but had to wait a month.
Good luck to the rest of you!!!
I haven't see a single one 2011 sienna yet except at the dealer, not even in Costco's parking lot!! I'm wondering how well are they selling?
Given what the deal was when I bought my vehicle in 2007--when there was also a $2500 incentive--I'd be looking for at least that, considering this is an expiring model.
Anyway, it opens up some options for me now. Most likely I will still get another sienna from this dealer again. The question is when
In either case, your numbers are a little off. The factory invoice for an EX-L RES is $32,766, not $32,416. Also, the holdback is 2% of factory invoice, which would be $655, not $715.
Also, the price that I received on the car was actually $30,500 (I paid a little more to redo the financing in order to get a much more favorable rate the following day - long story), which made it $2,266 under factory invoice, or about $361 under the known dealer costs and incentives for the vehicle but there is no way you really know what their "true cost" is, given other hidden incentives that we do not know about.
Lastly, the current economic situation is vastly different from that of 1 year ago. I seriously doubt that Honda feels the pressure to increase their incentives given a.) they have produced far fewer vehicles this year (in light of the 2011 model being released this fall and the recession), and b.) the perceived competitive advantage stemming from Toyota's troubles.