BMW 3-Series 2005 and earlier

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  • toronto_dennistoronto_dennis Member Posts: 3
    Just taking delivery of 03 330i. Sound system appears identical to 02 and I see no reference in Canadian web site to "Surround Sound System."
  • gsealockgsealock Member Posts: 3
    I recently purchased a new 325I last week. It was an over the phone deal so I really had no salesman to explain all the goodies and gadgets with me. For example, the headlight washers and how they work, seat memory, etc. I also have heard that they can program some things for me at the dealership such as automatic locking doors, pathway lighting etc. Could anyone let me in on some of the secrets so that when I return to the dealership, I know what to ask about. Thanks for your help guys!!
  • lokkilokki Member Posts: 1,200
  • hylndr61hylndr61 Member Posts: 51
    I had read a report over at Autospies that the stereo head unit on the 2003 3-series would include a new auxillary input. I'm assuming this would be for use with portable MP3 players and such. Did you notice this input jack? The article can be found at: http://www.imakenews.com/autospies/e_article000082776.cfm
  • ccotenjccotenj Member Posts: 610
    plus, go back to where you bought it and ask to have someone go over the car with you...

    -Chris
  • abcnycabcnyc Member Posts: 101
    Does anyone know of what can be used to treat the body trim/molding ? I tried Armor-All and Eagle One tire treatments, but they don not seem to do much with regard to getting a nice shiny finish. The trim/molding is probably more plastic than rubber, so maybe there is something else out there that works better.
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    gsealock-- that's not right. even if you negotiated the deal over the phone, it is every BMW dealer's responsibility to completely demonstrate the features of the car.

    they did this for me on a *used* M3. and then after that I went home and RTFM. ;-)

    -Colin
  • kominskykominsky Member Posts: 850
    If I'm reading your post correctly, you haven't actually taken delivery of the car yet, have you? If you have, then I agree with the others... owner's manual! If you haven't picked the car up yet, you should fully expect the salesman to cover all features, etc. upon delivery. For a heads up on some stuff, here's a good link;


    http://www.e46fanatics.com/faq/faqs.php

  • tenet1tenet1 Member Posts: 354
    I had a ton of tar stuck on the bottom trim panels below my doors. Looks really ugly on a Silver car.

    When I was at the dealer the other day, I asked a detailer there about the tar. He instantly whipped out a can of Degreaser solvent (available @ Target) and sprayed the bottom trim panels. After a few seconds he wiped the plastic trim with a paper towel, and the tar was gone completely. Like Magic!!! Learn something new everyday.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    tenet - just rewax the bottom panels. That degreaser stuff takes the wax off also.
  • jean7of9jean7of9 Member Posts: 192
    Congratulations for your 03 330xi. Please tell us how you find it. I am eager to have mine. As for the Sound System here where you find the statement of BMW Canada: Use the link below to go to the 330xi Technology. Select Luxury Technology, then select 10-speakers Hi-Fi Sound where you could read in the first paragraph "LOGIC7 incorporates a new and exciting Surround Sound process as featured in all current Harman Kardon home AV receivers". In the second paragraph they mention the power of "420W and 13 speakers Surround Sound"...

    Furthermore, I watched yesterday the 745 Test Drive on Speed Channel. BMW 7 Series Product Manager was bragging that "LOGIC-7 is the best Sound System ever in any car". The 03 Sound System controls must be the same as 02, only your ears will tell the difference, do they?. If you do not hear a substantial difference than BMW Canada owes us an explanation.

    Jean


    http://www.bmw.ca/automobiles/model_fs.asp?modelID=5&seriesID=1

  • vkwheelsvkwheels Member Posts: 218
    I'm seeing more on the road. Always in black. Wonder what it feels like to drive/ride.
    As for buying over the phone, of course the manual is your reference, but I think the dealer should offer that courtesy. (My 2 cents).
    XM radio--anyone else in this community besides Paul of the Desert have it? Paul, I doubt I'd travel to Bakersfield to get it installed, but your good experience & happiness with it are remembered.
    Hey NYCCarGuy have you made the switch yet to entrepreneurship? OT OT OT
  • bimmer3ibimmer3i Member Posts: 48
    I read the manual regarding D, S and M mode. The only thing I remember so far is that you'll get the most of fuel efficiency on D while S has higher rpm before it shift to higher gear and could go up only in the 4th gear. There's nothing much have said on M.

    I guess the fastest acceleration (from 0 mph) you can get from steptronic is when you're in S mode (like I said, I'm just guessing). When those magazines test the 330iA, what mode did they use? Is it the S mode?

    Just want to know. Last Sunday, I was provoked by a car on my left by speeding up after the traffic light turned green. I was able to catch up and ahead of him after a few seconds but hold on myself after I noticed that the rpm reached about 5500 (my bimmer is just a week old and has only about 225 miles). I was driving in D mode.
  • pcbrspcbrs Member Posts: 57
    Hi-
    The Logic 7 is simply a fantastic system. Just awesome. But IMHO, it still falls short of the Mark Levinson system in the LS430... unfortunately. But I applaud BMW for the effort, and I hope they continue to improve it. =D Too bad my new 330ci's HK won't even come close. I can't wait to pick it up in December, though.

    -Jeff
  • newtobostonnewtoboston Member Posts: 31
    Speaking of the sound system, is there anywhere I can find specs on the standard speakers on the 2002 325i? I planned on replacing the entire stereo system but if any of the speakers are worth keeping it'll save me at least a few $$$.
  • erickplerickpl Member Posts: 2,735
    2 in each of the front doors
    1 in each of the rear doors
    2 on the rear deck
  • dave330idave330i Member Posts: 893
    The I6 under the hood is good enough for me. :)
  • tcn2ktcn2k Member Posts: 277
    There is acutally:
    3 in each of the front doors. Don't forget the tweeters. Total of 10. non harmon-kardon type.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    Take is easy. The temptation is there for sure, but there is plenty of time after break-in, to act as if the car as two speeds. BMW recommends a max of 4Krpm for the first 1200 miles and a max speed of about 100 miles. Once you get it broken in it will keep up with almost everything on the road except a G35. :)
  • kominskykominsky Member Posts: 850
    Driving home tonight I had a semi either blow a tire or kick a chunk of blown tire into my car. There is no dent and as near as I can tell, there are no scratches. There is however a big black scuff on my front fender. Anyone have a recommendation for cleaning it off? I did wipe over it with a quick detailer which removed some from the edges, but the majority of it stayed put. TIA!
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    How about some liquid degreaser or a little bit of mineral spirits. Just be sure to test it first.
  • abcnycabcnyc Member Posts: 101
    After much deliberation, I finally ordered and received a set of Dunlop Sport M2 winter tires (205/50-17) and Sport Edition Valore wheels from Tirerack. I have a 330i with the SP. I could have gotten 16" wheels and tires, but I opted to go with a set that matched the 330i non-sport configuration. Thanks to those ws referenced the November Consumer Reports on winter tire performance. The Dunlop Sport M2's did quite well. The Sport Edition Valore wheels also look great. They were the least expensive ones for the 330i ($129). They were also the only 17x7 wheels that I liked. There were some 17x7.5 wheels that Tirerack indicated would work with the 205/50-17 tires, but I decidec to get wheels that were the same size as the 330i non-sport OEM wheels. Thanks again for everyone's input on torquing the lug nuts. I also got a torque wrench and socket from Tirerack. It's a great website to just look for stuff.

    I just have a question about the wheel center caps. My wheels came with instructions to use the original BMW center caps. Does anyone have any experience with removing the center cap from the OEM wheel and installing on new/winter wheels ? Do the center caps just pop off the OEM wheels and you can just press fit them onto the new wheels ? I would think thecenter caps are installed pretty tight in order not to come off. Is there a locking mechanism ? Thanks for any help you can offer.
  • kominskykominsky Member Posts: 850
    kd - thanks! that sounds a little scary, but I'll try it somewhere out of sight first.

    abcnyc - If the BMW OEM center caps fit, I would just buy a set to keep on the spare wheels. I'm pretty sure you can get them for ~$3 each from Circle BMW and Pacific BMW.
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    I'm deciding on winter tires too.

    Mine will be attached to a beater 4x4 pickup or SUV though. ;-) Currently a $400 '86 Blazer is in the lead.

    We don't get much snow in Kansas, mostly ice. Either way the M3 doesn't leave the garage on days like that. Any clear day, the beater will sit.

    -Colin
  • jules0066jules0066 Member Posts: 1
    hi everyone - i'm going to go to a dealer tomorrow to test drive a 2003 330i. i want to go in armed with some good info, so i don't get screwed over. i plan on leasing, so i wanted to find out what the normal depreciation is on a bmw. i plan on leasing for 3 years and buy it at the end. i'm a grad student, so i don't have the cash to buy it up front. any info on the depreciation rate of a bmw 3-series would be great. thanks!
  • bimmer3ibimmer3i Member Posts: 48
    kd - thanks for your advice. I'll keep that in mind

    I have a question that was unanswered though: Is the S mode will do a better/faster acceleration than the D mode from 0 mph? Are the test drivers testing the 330iA in D or in S to get the 0-60 mph time?
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    abcnyc - The center caps are snap-on - there's no locking mechanism.

    jules0066 - A residual of 62% for 3/36 is good, although I think I read that the current residuals are closer to 59%.
  • jean7of9jean7of9 Member Posts: 192
    I re visited this issue with my dealer and checked BMW Canada Web Site specs with reality. There is no doubt that the 330i, 330xi stereo description belong to the 745 only. The Web Master copied and pasted those specs and details without any revision which is totally un-BMW. (Next time we will probably read that 3 series has a V8). That also means there is no in-dash CD the the 3iers.
    Dennis your are not being fooled by production but by BMW marketeers. Still waiting your review for the 03 330xi.
    Jean
  • gsealockgsealock Member Posts: 3
    Is is possible to buy after market bulbs to get the same "white/blue" effect as the xenon's give. Has anyone had experience with this. Please let me know.
  • ccotenjccotenj Member Posts: 610
    yes, but do your fellow drivers a favor and DON'T install them... they don't make it any easier for you to see, and unless you are extremely careful when you aim them, you end up blinding oncoming traffic...

    -Chris

    who believes if you want xenons, GET xenons...
  • ddblueddblue Member Posts: 117
    Back from the dead for some advice. The weather in VA has gotten a bit chilly, and it seems that my 2001 325Ci is making funny noises when I start the engine. It happens mostly when the AC/Heat is running but sometimes even when it's off. It is a mild screeching noise. Once the car warms up, though, the noise stops. Anyone had this happen? What is it and how do I make it disappear permanently?
  • sunnybrooksunnybrook Member Posts: 74
    Has anyone had the experience of swapping out the yellow turn indicators in the rear/sides/front for clears on the 325i? Is this easy to do and what is the cost involved?
  • ddblueddblue Member Posts: 117
    Back from the dead for some advice. The weather in VA has gotten a bit chilly, and it seems that my 2001 325Ci is making funny noises when I start the engine. It happens mostly when the AC/Heat is running but sometimes even when it's off. It is a mild screeching noise. Once the car warms up, though, the noise stops. Anyone had this happen? What is it and how do I make it disappear permanently?
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    I started hearing this mild screeching noise that you describe a few days ago when the temperatures dropped sharply. I actually hear it in my '01 325i mostly when I accelerate or decelerate- I don't think I've heard it when the gas pedal is not depressed. It's barely audible and it doesn't bother me nearly enough for me to take it to the dealer but I was curious about that too. Once the car warms up in 5 min, it disappears completely. Interestingly enough, I did not hear this last winter. To me, it sounds like a wire rubbing against metal or plastic but I've no idea what could be causing it.
  • ccotenjccotenj Member Posts: 610
    a guess, without hearing it or driving it...

    belts???

    -Chris
  • markjennmarkjenn Member Posts: 1,142
    Momentary "screehing" on startup (aggravated by cold weather) is often caused by alternator, power steering, fan, etc. belts slipping. It may need tensioning or replacement. Don't spray anything on it. It may quiet it down in the short term, but will cause premature failure later.

    - Mark
  • ccotenjccotenj Member Posts: 610
    yea, that's what i was thinking...

    -Chris
  • tcn2ktcn2k Member Posts: 277
    I had this happened once a 6 weeks ago when the weather was chilly, and it was night time. The car has not been driven for 2 days. It went away after about 20 seconds and never heard it again. I also never heard this before either last year (01 325i). Are any of you be bringing in the car for tension fix? If so, let us know the outcome of it.
  • ultrarunnerultrarunner Member Posts: 64
    I spent the last 30 days enjoying my 325i touring in Germany and Austria. Everything went well. 42 euro for the taxi to delivery center where Judith from BMW made sure that I had everything I needed before I left. She even called local Hotels to check room availability for my last night in Munich after delivering my car to Harms for shipping. The Harms agent had me in and out in about 20 minutes.

    Several of the people I met in Europe asked why I bought the "Big 325" gas engine. I told them that I had no options regarding engines.

    The only minor point I noticed in my 2,700 miles was that the steering wheel was very slightly off center when driving straight.

    All I can do for now is hope that my BMW is home for Christmas! I have been told that the Dock strike has international shipping in mess!!!
  • silverprincesssilverprincess Member Posts: 75
    I may have missed your comments on this so sorry if this is redundant.

    May I ask why you decided on the ECIS CAI...as compared to Dinan, GruppeM, and others? What affected your decision - price, performance gains, etc? Are you worried about the lack of warranty for a non-Dinan aftermarket accessory?

    What other aftermarket performance parts do you already have or are planning on getting?

    Appreciate your feedback as I'm considering doing some mods on my E46 99 323i SP.

    Thanks!
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    I was a corner worker at one of the recent autocross events and I get to hear every car on the course. I saw an E46 negotiate its way through the cones and I loved the sound - the engine had a lot of growl (the mellow, refined type) and I knew for sure that this car was modded but I could not tell how. I was stunned when the car passed me and I found out that it was an E46 325 coupe with the same engine as my car's. I thought the owner had a lot of mods to get that sound and after my assignment was over, I went and asked him what kind of mods he had in the car (other than the apparent custom wheels). He said nothing, just the CAI, and that he loved the sound so much, he had to get it just for the sound. This guy is probably one of the top 3 autoXers of any class on the BMW side. The 325ci is his daily driver - he runs an E30 M3 and I think he's won every single event this year in every class that he's run. The top guys run ECIS CAI. The most knowledgeable enthusiasts on any BMW forum run the ECIS CAI. So I am going with the bandwagon trusting that guys with so much experience know better than me. The CAI is ECIS's bread-and-butter product, just like UUC and sway bars or JC and software. I am a little prejudiced against Dinan products, which tend to be the Rolex of the bunch. Other products are very similar in performance but none of them achieve it with so much panache. I mean, what company puts carbon fiber inserts in its stress bars to save a pound or so. I don't want to pay $250 premium for that. Same line of reasoning goes for all of Dinan's products. The good thing about the ECIS CAI is that installation is supposed to be very easy. With the Dinan CAI, installation takes a few hours because they relocate the intake down below to where it arguably sucks cooler air. However, using a longer pipe to get the air to the engine may be a downside, so I suspect it may be a wash. What's probably more important than sucking the coolest air possible is not letting hot air back into the engine and the ECIS CAI heat shield does a good job at that. The cone filter with a heat shield like the ECIS CAI's is 3 points in the autoX class assignment; as a reference, an aftermarket turbo is 10 points, so the people that know how mods stack up obviously think that the CAI achieves some tangible gains. To be fair, though, you have to look at it from all angles - interior noise will be up - mostly the good type (growl) but also some whistle, which some drivers find somewhat annoying. I just got my CAI and I will be installing it this weekend. Will post more after I do it. As far as warranty, I am not at all concerned about it - in the unlikely event that you experience any engine-related problems, you can always take the heat shield and cone filter off and put the stock unit back in. With a Dinan intake, it's not that simple because it will take hours to do that. You'd hope that their warranty will cover that but you may get bounced between them and the dealer while they determine who's responsible for fixing your car. Bottom line is, I have not heard any engine-related complaints from those who have installed the ECIS CAI. I asked Kenny at ECIS if he agrees that stock paper filter filters out particles best. He said yes but it is also very restrictive. With the cone filter, you'll be fine if you change your oil regularly. All that said, keep in mind that as far as resale value, nothing works better than bone stock. Any mods that you put in, make sure they are reversible in case you are concerned about resale value. I am planning on keeping my car till I drive it into the ground and even so, I am not concerned about the long-term durability of the engine as a result of installing a CAI. I still think this car should get me at least 200-250K miles with proper maintenance and care. The only other mod that I just put in is a Racing Dynamics front stress bar (strut tower brace). It has improved the handling of my car very noticeably. It does not change your car's rolling resistance like sway bars do but again, the difference is very tangible. There is a sharp turn with a constant radius on my way home from work that I take at the max every night. The best speed that I have been able to achieve is 55-56 mph in well over 100 tries. With the strut brace, I pulled in 58-59 mph on a first try. On subsequent tries, I got it up to 60 mph even when the DSC kicked in (I rarely switch it off on public roads). So I've picked 4-5 miles at 55 mph with the strut brace only (all else equal). At the last driving school up in NH, one of my fellow autoXers with a nearly identical 325i SP (even same tires!) was holding the 6-degree banked oval at 80 mph. I could only pull in 75 mph comfortably. The only difference in our suspension was the front stress bar, which he had and I did not back at the event. The only other mod that I am considering is UUC sway bars (anti-roll bars), which significantly improve the rolling resistance of the car thus keeping it flatter in turns so all 4 tires can get better cornering traction. Everyone that's put them in swears by them but they may get clunky if they are not properly installed and also, you need to grease them at least once a year. They are adjustable with three settings in the back (two in the front if I am not mistaken) but you need to jack up the car to change the settings, so it's not exactly practical for my taste. I am also waiting to see if JC will be able to achieve any software gains for the E46 325.

    Geez, ask a simple question :o)
  • dave330idave330i Member Posts: 893
    Ah, but how can you argue against a Dinan S2 M5? :D

    Plus, for those of us in the Bay Area, Mountain View & Morgan Hill are just around the corner. :)
  • abcnycabcnyc Member Posts: 101
    Thanks for the suggestion of another set of center caps for the winter wheels. The local dealer sells them for $4.50 each. For me it's worth $22 to not pop the center caps everytime. I'm note sure if there is any problems with wear.
  • twoof1twoof1 Member Posts: 308
    Brave,
    You hit the nail on the head with your dissertation on the pro's & cons of a CAI. I have had both Dinan (on my Z3) & the ECIS and you description of both is right on. The Dinan is definitely more difficult to remove and maintain. I removed & reinstalled my ECIS 4 times (before I returned it) and each time I got faster & faster with it. Even the first time it only took about 20 minutes.
    Please let us know your impressions after install and again after about a month of commuting with it.

    Silver,
    Most people do not realize that when dealing with warranty issues in a modded car that the consumer is protected by a piece of consumer protection legislation called the Magnusson Morris Act. In summary, this act says that the warrantor must prove in order to deny a warranty claim that the problem was caused by the non OEM upgrade. In other words if you put a CAI on your car and 2 month's later your thermostat goes out and the dealer declines to service it under warranty due to the mod's, the dealer must PROVE that the problem was caused by the modification. This burden of proof is on the Warrantor, NOT you. Most dealers are pretty cool about minor modifications and warranty issues.
    Dinan's warranty is very good particularly if you are doing MAJOR engine mods. If you go with a supercharger or a stroker motor, than I would definitely recommend someone like Dinan that stands behind their product with a strong warranty.
  • blk330iblk330i Member Posts: 5
    I have an '02 330i with just 6K on it. Absolutely love this car. My car exhibits a similar problem with the clutch. During a cold start (not any colder here in S. FL than AZ), there would be "notchy" feel to the clutch when pressed (half way between the disengagement point and very bottom). At it's worst, there would also be a "thunk" sound as well. The engine does not have to be turned on for this problem to occur. It would go away after a few miles of driving. I also noticed the "notch" does not appear when the engine is revved above a couple thousand rpm. Took it to the dealer to have it looked at and supposedly found nothing wrong but went ahead and "greased the clutch slave cylinder". To my surprise, that fixed the problem - at least temporary (5 weeks). Unfortunately, the old problem coming back. It can feel the "notch" every morning when I first drive the car out the garage!
    Any one else have similar experience?
  • markjennmarkjenn Member Posts: 1,142
    You're right, the dealer has no right to deny warranty coverage due to mods unless they can show that the mod caused the failure.

    But there are two problems with this argument:

    1. Mentioned the Magnnusson Morris Act isn't likely to change the position of a dealer denying warranty coverage. The reality of the situation is that the car is broken and they won't fix it. They have the upper hand. Are you going to pay a lawyer $300/hour to sue them?

    2. Very few dealers will deny coverage for mods when the mod is clearly unrelated to the warranty claim. The problems are with the huge gray areas - does "chipping" a car to a higher power output level cause extra stress on the drivetrain and thus void the warranty on transmission and clutch? Does installing different brake pads void the warranty for rotors that warp? Things are often not clear cut.

    So in these gray areas, you're really at the mercy of the dealer to "do the reasonable thing" and most do. And the reality of the situation is that one's legal rights under the Magnusson Morris Act are pretty much of acadmemic interest, rather than affecting how any claim will be handled. Mod with this in mind.

    - Mark
  • twoof1twoof1 Member Posts: 308
    markjenn,
    Good point about chipping the car as that creates a whole new "gray" area particularly when your dealing with a turbo as most chip gains on a normaly aspirated car are slight if any whereas with a turbo you can usualy get dramatic power increases from chipping although the additional stress may in fact cause premature failures.

    I also have heard about dealers who will try anything to charge the client and deny a warranty claim because of mods. The "We are sorry mam but we can't fix that sticky gas pedal under warranty because you have an aftermarket exhaust on this car" kind of thing happens all the time. Remember the manufacturer has a set reimbursement rate for warranty repairs whereas they can charge a client anything they want.
    I know of 2 people who had this type of scam pulled on them (from my days on some Volvo boards) even though the warranty issue clearly had nothing to do with the mod. After getting the dealership management involved and citing the Magnusson Morris Act it was amazing how they changed their tune.
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    if you have a warranty claim rejected by a dealer due to modifications, don't stop with that dealer... talk to the manufacturer! if the mfg can be convinced, you bet a dealer is going to do the work-- they'll get paid.

    -Colin
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    I saw a 350Z for the first time yesterday - the car is drop-dead gorgeous IMO. It looks sporty yet the lines are clean in a European way. Wondering if Renault might have helped with the design. Kudos to Nissan for designing a car that beautiful. Will have to take one for a test-drive.
  • silverprincesssilverprincess Member Posts: 75
    ...brave, twoof1, markjenn and locke2c for all of your input - that was very helpful. Is it true that you have to re-oil the filter once a year or something? I've read somewhere that with the Dinan, you can do it by taking off the left front tire instead of taking off the front bumper (which is what you need to do for installation).


    brave, do please give us your feedback on the ECIS CAI as twoof1 suggested.


    twoof1, may i ask why you installed/removed the ECIS CAI numerous times? And why did you finally "return it"?


    Here's a very interesting debate on CAI's - most of the big players were out! http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24845&highlight=gruppe (go to the last few pages)

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