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I'd put an add in the paper for either $3,000 or #3,500 and expect to sell it easily.
Dave
Trading the Accord would sting a bit but it would be more like a sweat bee sting not a wasp sting. Fortunately, our interest rate is low (3.49% through my credit union and we got a decent deal when we bought it.
I am already almost over the though of buying a Civic. After looking a little closer at how our rear-facing car seat fits in the Accord I am not sure it would fit in the Civic sedan. Besides, the Accord is bigger, has more features, and we already have a years worth of payments in it.
As for myself, I do my oil changes between every 3k and 4k miles and feel comfortable with this bracket.
If you are uncomfortable, call several service departments and see what they say.
The Sandman :-)
(Common sense and reading the manual go along way!)
thanks
I think I can stretch this a bit further, but I'm not sure. I know the manual reads that the tank holds just over 13 gallons. But I'm only able to get roughly 10 at the gas station... Are the 3 additional gallons 'reserve'? I typically fill up shortly after my gas light comes on. Again, this happens right at 400 miles.
That said, I'm getting right at 40 mpg given the nature of my drive (98% is interstate each day) @ 70 - 80 mph avg.
What are others seeing for their tank capacity? Has anyone run the tank dry? How many gallons did it take to fill it back up?
Thanks!
When I fill it up, I usually keep filling until it is really full (gas up to the top of the filler neck). I know some people advise against this, but if you stop when the pump automatically stops, you could still put in like 2 to 2.5 gallons more. My suv is the same way.
Anyway, if you want to get the most accurate reading of your mpg, this is the way to do it. Start with a full tank (to the top of the filler neck), drive then refill to the top of the filler neck.
It is also not the pump because it happens on both of our vehicles at any gas station. It is worse though on our suv.
By the way, let me ask you. Coupe or sedan?
The new Civics sound like they do a lot better on gas than mine does. My overall average over seven years is about 29 mpg, but I can get up to 34 on a road trip. The small 11.9 gallon tank is a real pain, though. I usually fill the car around 280 miles. It really makes me miss my '87 Accord that would go 475 miles with a 15.9 tank.
Over the course of seven years, I have had NO mechanical problems of any kind. I have the car serviced religiously every 3,750 miles at my terrific local dealer in Portland, OR. My wife's '97 Accord LX Sedan has been similiarly reliable.
I'm not as young as some of you on this board, but I plan to keep the Civic until I turn 50 in seven years. When I get the itch for a new car, I ask myself if I'd rather spend $25K+ on that now or be relaxing on a beach somewhere when I'm 60. That makes the decision easy. My goal is always to get 10 years of good service out of a vehicle.
The only issues I've had are an occasional dash sqeak/rattle (mostly in colder months, and only when I drive down a bumpy dirt road), and the interior trim covering the pillar between the front and rear doors popped out. Just pushed it back in.
I've been changing the oil every 4,000-5,000 miles, and changed the air filter at 15k. Just rotated the tires, since the fronts were just about to the wear bars. I'm guessing I could get about 50k out of these tires, but I'll likely replace them this fall. I don't like to drive thru winter weather on marginal tires.
25,000 miles in 10 months? Are you in sales or do you just have a long commute?
The Sandman :-)
The Civic needed tranny work. Couldn't find a good used car that met our requirements. Leased another 04 Accord.
The Sandman :-)
As to the person who called the 04 Civic EX coupe a "sports car". I have the 02 year of this car and it's anything but sporty. Looks sporty, yes. But if you like a sporty ride, your gonna hate the Civic. It bounces relentlessy over uneven pavement. A sports car is supposed to hug the road and feel well controlled. Unfortunately, all Civic models (except the Si) have the same soggy suspension tuning (2 or 4 door) that appeals to the mainstream buyer. If you want a sporty ride, I suggest you look at the Mazda 3 which drives like a BMW next to the weakly sprung Civic.
Looks are subjective. What you think looks "pathetic" other people like just fine!
OK, the tc has a four year advantage. But if I'm buying a car TODAY, I'm not going to give anyone a break because I think their model has been around for four years. I'm going to buy the best car for the money. On paper, that's the tc without question. The fuel economy is the only negative - and it is supposed to get the max. crash score like the Civic. The Civic is not larger, the tc actually has a longer wheelbase. Now if the 05 Civic comes with 17" alloys (Z-rated tires) and a 160W stereo, I might change my mind. Oh, you could order the Honda factory performance kit at several thousand $ and get the 17" alloys that way...
or you could just buy the tc.
Tc is a welcomed contender, but Civic coupe is not even in the same league. Civic and Xa are probably more closely related. Tc, IMHO, is more on par with TSX and Mazda6, and very close in dimnetions to previous generation Nissan Altima.
Toyota is doing the whole Scion line to compete with Honda in the youth market, they have to give more for less to draw people away from Honda. I think average age for Toyota buyer is 43, while Honda's average is 34. (don't qoute me on these, they are from something I read somewhere a while back). The increased competition is good for the consumers.
"There is no way a 1.7 liter can produce enough torque to spin those to get any respectable acceleration"
Umm, you might want to tell Honda this because they sell the factory performance kit with 17" wheels for the Civic with the same 1.7L engine.
Who cares if the tc has Camry parts and an engine. Who cares if the average age of the buyer is whatever it is. And the fact that you said the tcs competition is the TSX proves my point. You get more performance and value for your money with the tc.
After having put up with my Civic's floppy suspension and the thought of spending $600 in the next year or so to change the timing belt, the tc is the obvious choice.
Civic is showing it's age. The suspension on the current generation Civic has been a source of complaints since it's introduction.
"The Civic's ride and handling are two more areas where it earned high marks from our editors. It's more tightly controlled than the Elantra and Corolla, yet more forgiving than either the Protegé or the Sentra. In other words, the Civic strikes the best balance between ride comfort and road feel. Heavy insulation makes for a quiet cabin, while the solid steering feel keeps you well apprised of the road conditions below."
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/100022/page015- .html
Did anybody twist your arm to buy the Civic EX? Did you not know that it had "floppy" suspension after the test drive? Did you not know that it had timing belt before you plopped the money for it? Have you looked at Si before buying the EX? Si has stiffer suspension, it has a timing chain, and is a little sportier than EX.
tC is actually closer in size to Subie Impreza.