Volkswagen Passat 2005 and earlier

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  • hoodornamenthoodornament Member Posts: 114
    Do you have issues?

    I know there is "one of you" on every board, but cmon man.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    The green color you are talking about is striking and was featured at the Cincinnati Auto Show -- everyone, man, woman and child commented on the color (the interior was kind of a vanilla color and it was a great compliment to the exterior).

    Girly? Pink is girly. Perhaps that shade of Purple Metallic that Chrysler offered on Sebring's was girly. Fresco Green just looks cool.

    My wife liked the color, I liked the color -- it shows really well.

    I would love to be able to once again buy my favorite Audi/VW color: Pearl White (with a grey leather interior with black piping!
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    Interesting that someone who is honest with their opinions has "issues".

    Fresco Green is manly. It's the best. I wish I got one. Ok?

    Let's move on.

    -Craig
  • mitdagessenmitdagessen Member Posts: 7
    Craig, you might be on to something, I have a fresco green passat and have been noticing lately how my radio station winds up on easy listening. Oh and I've been gabbing on and on about window treatments and thinking to myself how cute Johnny Depp is. OMG I have to paint that car before I wake up one morning with a man in my bed. Can you recommend a macho color?
  • hoodornamenthoodornament Member Posts: 114
    hahahahaha, mitdagessen, I think you should strongly consider Silverstone Grey or Black as your color, because there are people out there that would judge you on the color of your car, albeit they are not the sharpest "tools" in the shed.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Folks, let's move on please.
  • lkuav8rlkuav8r Member Posts: 16
    Hi,

    I have to replace one of the daytime headlights: $22 on my 2002 Passat! Does anybody know of another, cheaper, source for the lamps?
  • breikinbreikin Member Posts: 4
    as it's already summer and I wear shorts most of the time, the leather seat feels 'sticky' to bare legs.

    what kind of seat covers (or any thing that makes the leather seat not so sticky) do y'all use?

    sometimes I wish I had not chosen leather...
  • bronsonbbronsonb Member Posts: 170
    As another person who has owned BOTH a Taurus and a Passat (and at the same time, no less), I felt I should weigh in on the whole reliability versus quality issue with my own $.02 worth.

    I had a 2000 Taurus wagon while my wife was driving a 1999 Passat GLS V6. To address reliability. The Taurus never once left me in the lurch. It never failed to start. The AC or heat always worked. It never leaked oil. The car never stalled. But then again, most cars run this way. I would be inclined to say it was a "reliable" car.

    However, from a quality standpoint, it was sorely lacking. I had several recurring meddlesome problems. (1) the front rotors kept getting warped (car had less than 50K miles on it when I sold it). The brakes were resurfaced twice. I should have, of course, replaced the rotors, but that's another story. (2) The engine knocked and pinged under strain (going up hill or a full load). (3) The car needed to be aligned every 3 months - and it still ate tires. I had Ford check the suspension and alignment components twice, but they said all was well. I know I don't aim for curbs and pot holes, so something must have been wrong with that car. (4) miscellaneous creaks, noises, clacks, etc. that could not be tracked down. All of these things caused me to finally throw in the towel and get a 2003 Passat wagon.

    My wife's 1999 Passat has been a high quality, very reliable car. No squeaks and groans. No alignment problems (well, one problem, but it was a recall item on the tie-rods - VW replaced the tie-rods and realigned the car). No knocks and pings. No warped brake rotors. And to top it off, the car exceeds EPA gas mileage estimates too!

    Every time I get into one of our Passats, I feel like I am in a very safe $40,000 or $50,000 German automobile. When I got into my Taurus, I felt like I was in a $15,000 American-made Taurus (so I got what I paid for there). The Passat strives to be more than it is, and I think it succeeds. My Passat feels so solid and safe. I never worry about what might happen in an accident.

    Thanks for listening!
  • georgek44georgek44 Member Posts: 81
    I replaced mine myself. The bulbs were about $7 each at an auto parts store.

    The right side front light assembly is a little difficult to reach, but it is not nearly as much trouble as trying to replace brake or tail lamps on my 2000 Passat wagon.
  • foffonefoffone Member Posts: 1
    I boughta GLX passat,v6,last week .It's a great car!! One of the best I drove.The question :is it prewired for cd changer.Thanks for your prompt response.
  • quan69quan69 Member Posts: 21
    Congrats on your new Passat. It is prewired for a CD changer. Goes in the trunk in left corner. It's a $300 option at the dealership. If you want to get another brand, you'll have to make sure to get one that's compatible with the existing wires/connectors.
  • 2screwsloose2screwsloose Member Posts: 11
    Hey! What's all the rukus? If you look around, nearly all cars are either silver, black, red, or white. Why not green? It doesn't mean you are rich, or Irish, or envious. It's a color. That's all. Too bad it has been discontinued. I guess Gray will have to do instead of Green. Nasty old dead Gray, instead of lively, fresh Green. And it went so well with the interior color that wasn't black or tan. Yes gray. Oh well, majority rules.
  • echan2echan2 Member Posts: 12
    I bought my new GLS passat 1.8T with tiptronic about 2 wks ago. Though, driving no more than 400 miles. I'm having fun driving it. However, I notice the rear alloy wheels covered with a coat of black brake dust. I know too little about cars. Do I need to be worried? Is it normal?
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    It's not "green" that I'm against. It's the shade that VW was using. In my opinion, it was very feminine. Most of the drivers that I've seen with it are women. Just like that light, baby blue that they offer.

    Nearly all cars ARE silver, black, red, or white. Which is why I was choosing between Indigo Blue and Gray. They are far less popular on the road. Gray won because with Indigo Blue, I wanted a nice tan leather interior. But VW choose Banana Yellow instead. Thus Gray was my only choice.

    But that green. Ick.

    -Craig
  • mbros2kmbros2k Member Posts: 71
    Lots of black dust on the front or rear wheels is normal. Just wash it off every week or it will stick and eventually mar the wheels. Buy a wheel brush and use it. Notice how many VWs have ugly black or stained wheels 'cause their owners can't bother to spend an extra 10 minutes to wash them. The black dust will subside as the car gets older but it will always be there. It's easy to deal with if you don't let it go too long!
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    Some VW owners have a family/kids and really don't have an "extra 10 minutes" a week to spend washing wheels that shouldn't be black in the first place. And some VW owners live in the northern US where temps are below freezing for months at a time.

    Whatever Lexus is doing with their brakes, VW should take notice. I haven't once washed the wheels of our '01 RX300, and they look as clean and shiney as new.

    -Craig
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I don't know about VW pads. The ones on my 02 Jetta never left my wheels black dirty like some of the wheels I see on other VWs (older Jettas, Passats, GTIs, etc.) Maybe it's a change in the compound or something.
  • echan2echan2 Member Posts: 12
    Thanks mbros2k, I'll try to wash it more often. Craig has a good point. Even my wife's 99 Accord does not have this problem.
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    My Passat is an '02 as well, and this seems to be a well known issue by reading the posts on vwvortex.

    An interesting part is the dust appears on the rears more than the front on most Passats. Something to do with the brake bias more towards the rear to give it a more "balanced" feel.

    -Craig
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Some argumentative posts have been removed. Let's stick to the subject and stop the off-topic derision.

    Thank you.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I don't know about Passats, but I know all the 3 sets of wheels I had on my Jetta while I owned it remained dust free, and I never replaced the front pads (it had 40K when it was totalled). The rear pads and rotors, however, had to be switched at 33K miles. The new pads produced alot more dust than the factory ones did, they were Mintex.
  • curlyripcurlyrip Member Posts: 11
    I have two identical passat's priced up.
    2002 GLS with 7800 miles
    new 2003 GLS with 0 miles

    I can get the used one with a 6 year 100,000 bumper to bumper warranty for the same price as the new one with just the standard warranty.

    What would you do?
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
  • quan69quan69 Member Posts: 21
    get the new one! a 2002 shouldn't cost the same as a 2003, extra long warranty or not. also, do a price check for the car on edmunds and carsdirect.com. don't get suckered into a bad deal.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    The warranty doesn't add enough value for the 02 to cost the same as the 03. If it were about $4000 cheaper, then I would get the 02 if I were you.
  • mbros2kmbros2k Member Posts: 71
    I guess I don't understand the concern and hostility over a little brake dust. Rotors and pads are softer these days because asbestos is no longer used and people complain when harder materials are used and the brakes squeak.

    The amount of brake dust is less than the amount of dirt that accumulates on the rest of the car over a period of a week or so. Do you blame VW for a dirty car too? If you buy a VW, expect to give it a little more tender loving care than a Honda or Ford. It's part of being a member of the VW family. If it's a problem, then buy a car with hub caps and painted with primer. Then you can get away with washing it once a year whether it needs it or not.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    If you are very concerned about brake dust and/or cannot or will not clean your wheels at least once a week -- there MAY be a solution. But as with all solutions there may be issues or trade offs.

    You may be able to get brake dust shields more or less specifically designed for your Passat (or any car for that matter).

    The sheilds, IMHO, MUST BE VENTILATED and they must clear all areas around the rotor, brake mechanism parts and wheel. And they must be "wafer thin" to not increase the offset and also due to the thinness and venting not cause "critical" heat issues.

    These shields are or at least used to be widely available -- actually I got mine for an Audi 4000CS quattro (a long time ago) at the BMW store where I also got them for my wifes 325ix (1988) -- I had no side effects that I am aware of.

    But, on the other hand, I LIKE to looks of the brakes -- the shiny rotor against the CLEAN wheels on my 03 allroad and my wife's 03 TT look pretty cool.

    Ask around about the shields if you really want to take this route.

    One other route is to use a different pad compound -- of course you will probably end up with brakes that squeal.

    I know, picky picky -- I say clean your car at least weekly and drive it like you live!
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I heard somewhere that they cause the rotors to warp because they don't let the proper amount of heat escape from the brakes. That can also reduce the effectiveness of the brakes, so be warned.
  • oldshoeoldshoe Member Posts: 7
    Somebody explain to me exactly what a side curtain airbag protects against AND is it really worth it if you are carrying small children...the thought process here is that with small children in child car seats they are not tall enough to be at risk with making head contact with the upper part of the doors are they ???

    Another question...we have two small children...are they going to be safer in a Volkswagen Passat because of the side curtain air bags or the Subaru Forester because it rides higher and has the safe side impact reviews (Passat has not been ranked yet I think from IIHS) ....any thoughts or opinons would be helpful as my wife is trying to decide between these two vehicles... I actually have a 03 Forester that I got last week and she loves it and is considering buying one as well, but she also loved driving the Passat...just trying to get the safest car for the kiddies..

    JO
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    Since this is an issue of concern, I agree and reiterate there are trade offs and if you go this route, go "wafer thin" and ventilated for the reasons stated. Neither my wife nor I had any brake related problems with our brake dust shields.

    Having said this, I do not currently and have no plans to employ them, choosing instead to wash my car a minimum of one time per week.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    The side curtain airbags are deployed and cover the side windows in a side crash. What happens is this 'bullet' is fired and makes them deploy and cover the side windows in a crash, to protect occupants from flying glass mostly.

    I had a Jetta with the side curtains, and there was no warning the owner's manual about putting children in the outboard seats, so I think it would be ok. The curtains don't come 'at' you like side airbags in the seats do, they just drop down. So keep that in mind.

    The Subby is supposedly more reliable and cheaper to maintain, but it probably doesn't handle as well as the Passat. It also lacks the Passat's style and luxury amenities.
  • mbros2kmbros2k Member Posts: 71
    It is my understanding that side curtain bags deploy after front and side, when there is a rollover or secondary collision. Am I right?
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I always thought they deployed with the side impact airbags. I could be wrong though. I know they don't deploy in a rollover though.
  • echan2echan2 Member Posts: 12
    I'll choose to wash it weekly too. Since the coat of brake dust on the alloy wheel is kind of oily, any sugestion on the washing agents?
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I got this stuff from Pep Boys tonight that worked pretty well, but then again my car has chrome alloy wheels, so you couldn't use it on the Passat anyway.
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    You're comparison of a VW getting dirty and brake dust is flawed. Environmental issues occur with ANY car, or any object that exists in the outdoors for that matter. Brake dust is a factor of the manufacturer using parts that cause a dust to coat the wheels.

    If all brake pads cause dust, why is it our '01 RX300 has squeaky clean wheels after 2 years of use, yet my 1 year old Passat has brown crap all over them?

    Maybe it's a design issue that Toyota put into the RX300 that "vents" away the dust while driving, and VW doesn't. It's intereting that the RX300 weighs more than the Passat, yet produces virtually no dust.

    And yes, the RX300 does get dirty on the outside as well.

    When I was younger (ie single/no kids), I'd wash my car twice a week. The wheels were always clean. My first car (an '89 Firebird Formula) would coat the wheels in dust in a matter of 10 minutes of driving. Then my Honda CRX didn't have any dust. The Isuzu Rodeo has dust, the Volvo S70 T5 had dust, but the Acura TL didn't.

    Looks like Honda/Toyota have figured it out. I've seen countless BMW's with severe brake dust on the fronts. Maybe it's a German thing.

    -Craig
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Member Posts: 1,391
    I use Eagle One A-Z wheel cleaner...great stuff.

    Before the switch to mintex pads...yes, it gets dusty quick in the rears.

    At least it's not as bad as my cousin's G35 with the Brembos. It gets dusty in one trip after washing the car and the wheels.

    If you can, wax your wheels. It helps protect the clear coat, and makes them a little easier to clean.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
  • caw103caw103 Member Posts: 63
    Probably just a matter of rotor and pad combinations from differing suppliers. From what I understand German paint tends to react slightly differently with ceratin waxes then say Japanese auto paint.

    Like 8u6hfd said, the mintex red box significantly reduces brake dust.
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    I can only think of two things:

    1. Different rotor/pad combo (like caw103 said)
    2. There is some kind of air venting while driving that pushes the dust away from the wheels.

    I think 2 makes more sense, as one is always moving when braking. Why not use the air flow to your advantage?

    -Craig
  • catherine9catherine9 Member Posts: 31
    The Edmunds review gives the Passat a score of 5 for visibility. My Golf received a score of 8. Why did the Passat receive this mediocre score? Do you notice any problems when driving?
  • rayainswrayainsw Member Posts: 3,192
    No.
    - Ray
    Can't imagine whe the problem could be - '02 W8 . . .
    2022 X3 M40i
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    The front A pillars (between the windshield and front windows) is very thick. While this makes the structure more solid, it also hinders the view out the front at those angles.

    Towards the rear, there are 3 headrests/restraints across the rear seat. This hinders the rear view.

    It's kind of interesting. Safety (the view) is traded for safety (structure/restraints).

    It's not a hinderance while driving at all. I find it just as easy to drive as any car I've had.

    -Craig
  • echan2echan2 Member Posts: 12
    Thanks for all the information.
    I'll wax the wheels next time after I wahed it.
    Meanwhile, is the mintex pads expensive? Why did VW think of using it in the first place?
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Member Posts: 1,391
    Mintex are about average price...you can get them for decent prices on the internet.

    Reason why Mintex wasn't the OEM supplier? Don't know...I'm sure price is a huge drving factor.

    Word of caution, when it's time to replace the pads, most likely you need new rotors, also available cheaply from good internet sources such as

    www.vwparts.com
    www.germanautoparts.com
    www.parts4vws.com
  • rayainswrayainsw Member Posts: 3,192
    "Towards the rear, there are 3 headrests/restraints across the rear seat. This hinders the rear view."

    Ah - point well taken - I literally removed those before I left the dealer's lot. They remain in the garage - probably until I trade it in . . .

    Cheers,
    - Ray
    Who does not typically carry rear seat passenders . . .
    2022 X3 M40i
  • warhawk5warhawk5 Member Posts: 16
    I've only had my car '03 GLX for 3 weeks now, and I've already gotten used to the rear headrests. I don't think the head rests are the problem with visibility. Rather, the large "pillars" in the back seem to hinder visibility. The head rests only take up a very small portion of the rear window through the rear view mirror. The car has a lot of solid obstacles in it.
  • warhawk5warhawk5 Member Posts: 16
    I just took my '03 GLX to a car wash last week, and the chrome trim surrounding the small rear windows on both sides is now foggy and discolored. I'm taking it into the dealer in 2 weeks for them to look at it. Any insights or suggestions before then?
  • morenikemorenike Member Posts: 12
    Hello I'm new here. I have an '02 V6 4motion passat and would like to find out if & how I can get a nav system put in?

    Thanks
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