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since it's introduction in 1998. Full Curtain
Side AirBags were introduced in Q2 2001 MY
Cars.
I own a 2000 Passat Station wagon with the V6 engine and manual tranny. Since Xmas the "check engine light" has come ON & OFF for a few days at a time. I brought it to the dealer the first week of January and all they did was a computer reset + gave me a story about sensitive sensors & tightened government controls. Yes, they are clueless. Needless to say, a couple of days later, the light came back ON for a few days, then turned OFF for a day, and then turned ON..... When the Check engine light comes ON, it's usually accompanied by an "Emissions Workshop!" message in the middle message section of the dash. I've made an appointment with the dealer for Wednesday, but I fear that I won't get any further with them.... In case you're wondering, yes I've gone to different gas stations for gas and the gas cap has always been nice & tight. Do you have any ideas ? On pure speculation, I'm down to a faulty oxygen sensor or faulty idiot light or.... Help !
I've always owned Hondas/Toyotas and have had excellent reliability. I still like my Volks but I hope this isn't the beginning of a reliability issue....
Tom
-We had written off the 2001 Passat (GLS-V6) because it had a lot of wind and road noise compared to other cars we were looking at.
-The new Passat, in addition to the improvements inside and out, is MUCH MUCH MUCH better insulated than its predicessor; we were very impressed with the reduction in wind noise at highway speeds.
-We placed an order for a 2001(1/2) GLX 4 Motion in Mojave Beige.
Having never ordered a car before, I take it we haggle over the price after the car comes in? The MSPR is over 32K, any realistic idea on an acceptable counter offer?
Thanks!!!
to get the price of this new Passat nailed down
before you go any further; that would be in your
best interest.
When I take an order for a car here that is done
first, and I take a $500 deposit...That deposit
assures the customer that the car is theirs, and
that the price is fixed as agreed on the order.
Unfortunately, the car I want is not readily available. So, I placed an order for the GLS with the 4 cylinder engine and the 5 speed manual transmission, Monsoon, black velour interior and silver stone gray metallic exterior. And like one of the other messages before me, I secured the order with a $500 deposit. VW will search to see if it's available... if not they'll build one in Germany and ship it to me..which they say is a 12 week process (I wonder if that's true?)
But unlike your situation, I closed my deal. I'm sure I might have done better if I tried, but I took his initial offer of $500 over invoice (a 6% discount from MSRP). Candidly, I figured I'd do well to pay $1000 over invoice.
To each his own is my motto. But in my case I wanted to get the deal done and wait for the car, rather than get the car and then start the process of negotiation.
Good luck with your Passat. Like me, I know you'll love driving it.
either in Delaware, Houston, or San Diego and
that would mean that your Dealer can order it through the normal self-allocation process. The
only situation that really warrants "ordering"
a car is when the customer is looking for somethng
out of the ordinary...For example, I had to place
such a *custom* order for a couple that wanted a
Golf GLS 1.8T with no SunRoof or Alloy Wheels, but
with the ColdWeather Pkg. This car was in the *Order Bank* but w/o the CWP...It had not been built yet; so we were able to add that option.
It will not be built until next month, but I took the order on Dec. 28th...so 12 weeks is not unreasonable, but it certainly would be with your
car as described...
Since making the post referenced in the subject line, folks over at the B5 discussion forum at vwvortex.com who had already driven the pre-2001.5 B5 have now also driven the new B5 (B5.5 as many call it) and reported that the steering in the new model is at least as good as it is in the previous model. Looks like I mis-interpreted Hall's words. See the referenced post if you want to know what I am talking about. (qqq1 Jan 19, 2001 9:46pm)
In short, the steering in the B5.5 is apparantly just fine. My new interpretation of Hall's words: with the new, stiffer chassis, if VW turned down the steering boost, the handling to be even sportier.
Check out this quote from one of the forum moderators at http://forums.vwvortex.com/vwbb/Forum6/HTML/011415.html
"Overall I thought the new car was very nice and it was obvious to me as a current Passat owner that the new models quality is tremendous. The chassis feel was great. Handling is just as good if not even better than the outgoing model and I didn't notice any numbing down of the steering feel in this car."
Here's another quote - from another current pre-2001.5 B5 owner - on http://forums.vwvortex.com/vwbb/Forum6/HTML/011434.html
"The steering is tighter than my car, with a little less on center play. My best description is "surgical." I felt a littler more boost around the parking lot, but nice firm balance up to speed. My guess is that Audi assist has trickled down."
Also, I've been watching, and I haven't read any negative comments about the new steering. Can't wait to get my B5.5!
There were two passats, a 2001 and a 2001.5, they were side by side. I had a chance to compare them to one another, and I thought that the 2001.5 looked somewhat better than the 2001. Both are great cars, and should not disappoint their potenial owners.
Thanks.
The 2001.5 Passat now has the same engine defeat
mechanism that has been Standard on Beetle, Jetta,
and Golf for the past year...Each key is chipped
with a matching chip in the ignition. If a bogus
key or if the car is "hotwirred* to start it; the
car will not continue to run after 5 seconds...it
simply shuts down...making it virtually theft proof.
Glad to have it. Wouldn't want anyone taking my future Passat!
Does anyone know if the 2001.5 models might be discounted when the 2002 models come out? Would this be something to look forward to, or should I just start shopping now. Will probably be this summer b4 I can actually get one.
Thanks for any advice.
-Chippervw
The styling and colors are very sharp. It appears that WV listens to it's customers and reads these chat rooms. Most of the items that owners and test writers complained about have been fixed, from cup holders to a different brand of tires.
As soon as we can sell our SUV we will be driving a Passat.
The dealer had nine of the 01.5s on the lot and several 01s. Southern VW in Waldorf, MD.
2000 GLS with 4motion
2001 GLX and GLS
2001.5 GLX
I pushed them around a lot and found the 2000 4motion to be the roughest and there is no snow and ice in Houston so I ruled it out. The 2001 has significantly more power and acceleration than the 2001.5. I checked it out twice on 2 different days just to be certain. I don't know if it is weight difference or something else but there it is. The 2001.5 is a little smoother, a debatable plus in this car.
I like the 2001 instrument lighting better too. As far as the exterior cosmetics go, in my opinion the chrome siding works on the silvers and white and nothing else.
All in all, the 2001 is wolfier. It is closer toward being and feeling like a sports car. The V8 next year may change that, but at what cost?
I'm picking up my 2001 today. Hurry as they are being discounted and are going away.
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
NMayr
But I noticed a little hum or whirl sound also this morning when the car hit 10, 20 and then 30 mph. It is very slight, but I can hear it. I am going to have my husband try it tonight to see if he hears it. I noticed someone else commented on this problem. Any resolution to it? Or any thoughts on what it might be? Could it be the car breaking in?
Thought I would check with all of you first before I called the dealer. I hope it isn't anything. I have only had the car 2 days and would be very upset if there was a problem.
Hope someone has thoughts or can share the antidote.
Its worth the drive out to Rt 28 in Manassas--and talk to Nazzi!
question from an excited guy who's about to pick up a gorgeous Mojave Beige GLS with Leather and all, his first new car in 10 years...
Should I ride it around the block before I sign off on all the papers? Do I get it out on the highway and check for rattles, funny noises and such? Push all the buttons first?
I've researched the hell out this purchase and
now that it's days away from delivery time, this seemed to be about the last thing I need to know.
Thanks,
Hardly sleepin
test drive before you sign the contracts!!!!
First of all, it will give you an opportunity to
make sure that EVERYTHING works...Windshield wipers & wash, horn, sound system, DRL, brakes,
everything. Do not redline it or be alarmed at the
new brake smell...your car should not have more than a few miles on it...
Just as importantly as the above; it will give your Sales Rep an opportunity to go through the car with you from where the spare is, to where the
windshield wiper fluid goes. You will also be able
to ask some questions about the car that you may
have overlooked the first time you drove the new
Passat...Don't forget, if you have not already
been told...92 Octane gas is a must with the 1.8T,
and you will have to ask to have the tires rotated at 5K & 15K in order to be compliant with
the Tire Warranty...This will automatically be done at 10K & 20K, but you do have to ask that it
be done at the others...nominal fee of $20 or so.
Aside from that, all I can say is ENJOY!!!!
Call it being over cautious, I call it buying to many (one) GM products, so do yourself a favor and don't get caught up in the moment and take a subjective test drive before you sign. You'll thank yourself later.
Sales Manager or Fleet Manager...Silverstone
Grey is a GunMetal color and the Dealership should be more than well aware of it...and probably have some on order...The really beautiful
new color is Blue Silver...delivered a GLX in that
color today...Gorgeous...But it is very subjective
Keep checking VW.COM the new colors will be posted
shortly...
go tirerack.com
In addition to a fantastic selection of European
Wheels and every tire brand known to modern man,
they will also make sure that what you get has the
correct *Fitment*....They will tell you what that is too...
that absolutely & positively needs the 92...I have
driven a V6 Passat for two years on 89 with no
complaint from the engine...personal call though...
I have had all of the scheduled maintenance and had the tires rotated regularly. After a tire rotation at 15k the car sounded horrible. Tons of road noise.
Dealer found no problem (of course...bad dealer), brought the car to the tire place and had the tires replaces under the tire warranty. Tire place said it was a bad alignment, and they fixed all that.
Now I'm at 22k and after the 20k service (and tire rotation), more road noise.
I drive the car normally...no rough driving or rough roads.
Anybody else with a similar experience?
--Tyler
I will give it a good going over and make sure that the salesman shows me all about it.
As funny as it sounds, I remember years ago just buying a new and driving off.
I think a healthy bit of skepticism is always a good thing. I'll let you know how it turns out.
thanks,
Mat
Any opinions or experiences? Is it better to get ANY (audio, sunroof, etc) optional package with the car at purchase or does it matter?
Any opinions or good experiences on aftermarket CD Player models that are "coded" to the VW and work well with the Monsoon speaker system?
leather, luxury package, automatic, monsoon
the dealers price was $ 24,978. I think we did well. Opinions? We added on the dashboard cd player at an additional $350 which may be a little high but seems ok I guess.
The finance mgr. tried to add in the etch the window stuff and I said no thanks.
As I mentioned we're picking up the car on Friday. Aside from possible dings, rattles, wind of funny noises etc, any little games I need to keep my out for? Thanks.
Congratulations!!!!
What should I expect to pay for 2001 GLX? Less than 26700$ I'm excluding the destination charge. How much of a difference should I expect between the 2001 and 2001.5? Are the dealers still getting rebates for the 2001?
Thanks for you replies.