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2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
Not the defogger, but sometimes on 99GL,AM reception would break up and would only clear up by engaging the brake pedal far enough to illuminate the tail lights.
Not sure, if the Intrigue antena is embedded in the rear window. It is so with most of older Regal and Impala. The window develops microcracks sometimes, or came with the defect from factory. The cracks are widening when heated and are breaking contacts to parts of antena. Can make noise, when switching contact on and off.
Dealers are replacing the window under warranty.
The ads are very respectable and do not mention list or anything that would lead you to think it was Intrigue's last year. Wish I could buy one. I could get 0.9% for 60 months which is basically free money.
For my part, at more than 60K miles, I am very happy with the Intrigue. The steering problem is completely fixed after the lube job, brakes are great, not a single rattle (ever), very nice interior, and good low end power from the 3.8. I wish that GM had something else similar to offer, as I am still looking looking for a replacement for my '93 Mazda 626 (which is also running ver well!).
Just makes me more suspicious of their data gathering!
OTOH, it is clearly not a random sample from the overall population. People with complaints are more like to respond than satisfied owners. Assuming that applies to Toyota owners as well as Intrigue owners, the trends are still valid.
I guess I should be happy I own a 2000;-)
Don't know what the total production run was, but these cars are unique.
Having owned dozens of different makes and models over the years, nothing has been as satisfying on so many levels as the Intrigue.
That includes the diminsion of cost, so don't come in here with your Bimmer crap.
And nothing out of Japan other than Lexus or Infiniti can match up to Intrigue panache either....
The 2002 models will likely be the best (as with any car that's been in production for a few years) and 98 that they "recommended" is definitely the worst. What a joke.
So far I have about 45000 kms on the car. My only major issue was the erratic temperature gauge which was finally fixed after three trips to the dealer. I do have a slight headlight dimming problem in very cold temperatures which I will be closely watching this last year of my warranty. Otherwise, this has been the most trouble free car I've owned. It is our family's main hauler and it's nice to know I can rely on it.
It's sad to see the car die this year but I'll still be enjoying this car for many years to come. I never regret my purchase and that speaks volumes after 2 years.
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To show what qualifies as small production, there were 17,147 Lumina's (not Impala's) made, and 8,171 Eldorado's. In fact, there were over 57,000 Camaro/Firebirds made and they're getting yanked for low production.
CY 2001 production includes some 2001 and some 2002 models. I haven't found numbers for the model years instead of calender years. However, examining the CY production is certainly a reasonable indicator of model year production, especially for comparisons between models.
At 35 mph it is and at 55 mph it is.
A 45 mph kickdown in my intrigue meant that it was going into second gear not first.
By the way, i got creamed several months ago by a 330i in my impala.
I'm sure you could take comfort that you all smoked the 330 in out-the-door price, as well as back-seat accommodations. I can't believe the dang 330 can cost over $40K. For that much money with a puny back seat, it better be fast (although it isn't really all that fast, especially with an auto).
Re: the BMW 330. Motor Trend got 6 sec 0-60 and mid 14 sec 1/4 miles so it's going to smoke the Intrigue in any contest. For 95% of the driving most of us do, so what?
The Infiniti G35 is just as fast, roomier, a lot cheaper than a 330 or CTS(same as TL-S in Canada), RWD, and hopefully will not be as common.
Many imports cost considerably more than a domestic when comparing size, performance and features. Not only does this fact not seem to be factored (come on - how much does a loaded Camry V6 cost?? - pushing 30k maybe), but it's foolish to assume that some people that just put down the extra money for the import aren't going to be a little blinded to a flaw or two.
This is all theory, but human nature is to guard that ego. Simply put, I think it would take a lot more problems with a new Lexus over a Chevy for an owner to admit the car was not so good.
Now some could argue the exact opposite - that the more money paid - the higher expectation and greater criticism.
But I still think a car purchase is a greatly personalized event/investment(certainly to those that fill out the forms)and their reporting will tend to favor their ego.
It's also interesting that CR couldn't get 100 responses for the Grand Am even though they are everywhere.
Hope this doesn't enrage anybody. I just think you need to consider the subjective factors of these surveys, and a lot of imports are considerably more expensive.
1999 93915
2000 80511
2001 39495
I guess i could put it in my impala.
Now that would be interesting.
But if it could be dropped into a Ford Festiva, I wonder if it could beat the SHOgun? :=)
It will be interesting to see how it sells compared to the G35 which is $39K CAD and $42K CAD nicely equipped, but has more power. No stick in the first year though.
Both cars have very questionable resale value issues. Sheesh I can get a 2-3 year old STS for $33K CAD with a good chunk of warranty left.
I beat many intrepids with my intrigue but i have never raced an R/T.I was just in the R/T thread and there have been only 99 posts since June.
We can do that in a week.
I think the R/T has been killed off by Chrysler because the price was so close to the 300M.
However, there is some undirect info. Buick Regal and Century, essentially, are just different trims of the same car. Did not check the numbers lately, but Century used to consistently oversell Regal by 2:1 or more.
Also, I see a lot more Regals LS than GS on streets. The same with Pontac Gran Prix: much more SE than GT, and very few GTP. The same with Impala...
All of this demonstrates, that American buyers are rather sentitive to car price. Hardly it is different with Intrigue. Even more, that even the very basic GX still have the same wonderful DOHV 3.5l engine, not a pushrod 3.1l...