Oldsmobile Intrigue

oldsman01

Anyone notice that the rear of the new Lexus GX470 looks alot like an Envoy's? As for the Envoy's interior, I think it is the best of it's siblings. I also don't see the "early 90s Hyundai" look that C&D saw. Yes, the Aviator and Toureg(sp?) are tops here, but the Envoy is pretty nice inside, especially in SLT trim. Looks better than the 1980s looking Land Rover interior IMO.

Dindak, yes the Alero I'm driving has the old "Twin Cam" 2.4 liter engine. Not a paragon of refinement, but she'll move if I push it. I'm surprised the kids haven't started tweaking those and putting snow shovel spoilers and coffee can exhaust outlets on them. Good thing for us Olds owners at least:) I hate that crap.

jg28

The pics I've seen of the Rainier interior are EXACTLY the same interior as the Bravada (with a Buick symbol in the steering wheel the only change). Why can't they keep the name Bravada? Buick Bravada sounds all right anyway. I guess Buicks all have to have R names. Regal, Rendezvous, Rustybucket...

oldsman01

Rainier is a french name and I'm not sure why Buick is even using it. The division promotes itself as being an American brand and it's founder was not French I don't believe. If they want to keep the "R" names, why not Roadmaster. Like it or not, SUVs seems to be the modern day version of the ultimate road car so Roadmaster would not be all that much off mark.

oldsman01

Just got off the phone with the Olds dealer and they are waiting on the part to come in so Monday will be the earliest, so I'll be spending the weekend with my Electric Blue Alero. BTW, I took a brief test drive of the Mazda 6 this afternoon. Not a bad car at all. Traffic was heavy and I didn't have alot of time so I didn't get a chance to really put the car through it's paces, but it did drive very well. Held the road extrmely well and also took bumps very smoothly. The V6 engine was smooth and made a pleasant sound when revved, but it certainly didn't have the roar the Intrigue's 3.5 has. And off the line power is lacking until it gets revved up. Still, it's the first Mazda to ever really get my attention and consideration so they must be doing something right. It did lack some things that the Intrigue has like dual zone climate control, power passenger seat, auto door locks, and auto dimming rearview mirror. On the flip side, the 6 offers a 5 speed automatic with manual shift mode(which is what I drove) or an all out 5 speed manual with the V6. And if you get the heated seats, you also get heated outside mirrors. As for interior room, it didn't seem all that much smaller than the Intrigue as one had previously suggested. Styling wise, the 6 is a pretty good looking car, especially if you skip on the sport package which ads a silly looking wing spoiler and Pontiac-like lower side sills. The car is much better looking than the Accord and Camry and has a better looking rear end than the Altima does. I'm glad Mazda chose not to bless US spec 6s with the clear lense taillights like the euro models get. I'll have to take a more extensive test drive to form a better opinion, but based on the initial drive, I was impressed.

jg28

Holy crap! What a PERFECT name for the successor to the Bravada... Roadmaster! Wow seriously that'd be a perfect name. I sure have loved my Maxima more after swapping out the clear taillights for the red ones from 2000-2001 models.

b4z

December 15, 2000 Oldsmobile's death was announced. I don't about you guys but it has been slow and painful one for me.

goetehp

I mentioned earlier that I routinely get 35mpg. That was a bit of a stretch since I don't routinely get on the highway for long drives. Periodically is a better word. But you must understand I am not extremely careful about topping off the tank and in forming my estimations. Also, there is relatively little traffic on the roads down here in Alabama so the settings are atypical. There's a guy here that'll do a Flowmaster cat-back system for $250; I didn't do it yet; I like the quiet interior.

I noticed a marked improvement when I installed the K&N; the K&N company was no help but I was determined to get the filter; it was a tad large.

I ordered and received a set of high-voltage ignition coils (2) for the 00 Intrigue from Jacobs Electronics. Afterwards I called the dealer and he told me that some engines during that model year didn't have separate coils. At any rate, mine doesn't. Jacobs apologized and took them back.

I just bought some H rated tires that are supposed made by Michelin (cheap; $320 installed with lifetime balancing etc.). The car doesn't seem to get along as well.

goetehp

My niece was selling magazines for school and so I subscribed to a couple of car mags. R & T and Motorweek. What a c.o.s. Every 6 months they test a new Honda or BMW or Mercedes. Luckily I can keep the issues in the bathroom in case anything spills. They're about as informative and interesting as my guitar player mags.

TSchramm

I read somewhere that the name "Rainier" comes from Mt. Rainier, the highest mountain in Washington state and in the Cascade range - supposed to evoke an image of mountian ruggedness, or something - and probably the only "R" name they could come up that sounded outdoorsy.

At one time, the Roadmaster was a great name, but Buick screwed up by attaching it to that ugly early-90's Caprice knock-off that was never bought by anyone under the age of 75. Still think it's one of the ugliest cars GM ever produced.

redline - actually, I have driven the Trailblazer and was impressed, considereing what noisy, rattletraps the previous Blazers and Jimmy's were. The old 3.4 V6 sounded like a thrashing machine- and the new inline 6 is sweet. And I did sit in a new Envoy once, it just didn't do anything for me. A matter of personal taste.

And I'll admit - I do take the opinions of C&D into consideration when comparing cars. After all, they did a comparison of the Intrigue vs. the Camry and Accord in 98/99, and the winner - to thier own surprise- was the Intrigue. Obviously, they know what they're talking about!

dindak

Sure is a painful slow death. Saw the latest Olds ad with no Intrigue advertising the 0-0-0 promotion on US TV. What will they do next year when there is only 2-3 vehicles left??

I still think keeping the brand with 2-3 vehicles was a better idea that killing it all together.

redline65

It is pretty sad to see the commercial with only 4 vehicles and the Intrigue missing. Saw a final 500 Intrigue on the road the other day, wish I had one...

mfletouva

Hey guys...
Been away from the internet for a while, so this is a little late, but I drove my Intrigue from Washington up to Central Massachusetts for Christmas. About 430 miles, made it in 6:55. Had an excellent drive, but I got only around 25 mpg--I was hoping for a little more (my Alero used to get around 30). I left DC around 8:00 pm so traffic was quite minimal. The Intrigue is a great highway car. There is a stretch of I-84 about 15 minutes outside of Hartford until the MA border that was virtually deserted, and it was a nice chance to push the car a little bit. As I expected, once you get up in the 80-85 mph range, it really is so effortless. Too bad I never have a chance to get there...I passed through 5 speed traps on my trip (all of them successfully, I might add).
I still haven't gotten my two little problems looked at--the button on the stereo system that moves CD tracks backwards doesn't work and there is that little vibration/rattle up in the back right side. Car now has around 2100 miles so I had the oil changed...it was a little low. Anyway, it was the first time my family had seen the car and they all really liked it. I'm getting ready for a return trip on Jan 1, hopefully it will be as smooth. We got about 14 inches of snow on Christmas afternoon/night, so it was a good opportunity to test out the car on snow. The Goodyear GSA's are very grippy, and the ABS system is excellent. Today I took my aunt to go buy a Focus, and the Ford salesman had lots of interest in my Intrigue ("they don't make that anymore, do they? I heard that the 3.5 in that is the best domestic V6 out there, why'd they kill it?") Good question, I told him....

b4z

As I was reading your post about speeding through Conn. I was waiting for you to tell us about the speeding ticket that you got.

I came throughh there in '99 in my Intrigue and have never seen so many cars pulled over and so many cops. literally 4-5 cars on the side of the road every few miles.

I was passing a slower car and it just so happened that that car got to the top of the hill before me. He pulled him and not me. Just dumb luck I guess.

TSchramm

Still puzzling to me why Olds couldn't make it. They were obviously making nice-looking and well-performing cars. Both the Intrigue and Alero are better than their GM counterparts, and far better than Ford/DC. The Aurora was an interesting experiment, and maybe the 88 and 98 were killed off too soon, as part of some marketing genius' desire to change the image that worked for Olds very well for 40 years.

It almost seems to have come down to marketing - they couldn't communicate the advantages of the Intrigue and Alero effectively enough . If they could have poured their ad budget into just these two models, maybe they'd still be afloat.

That strategy has been what has kept Mercury alive. The Grand Marquis is the second best-selling full size sedan, behind the LeSabre. Every time I see a Mercury ad, it's for the Grand Marquis. Never see them advertising the Sable or whatever else they still make now that they killed the Cougar. The GM is a good car, and specificlly targeted to its' market, and they do market the heck out of it. If Olds could have done that with the Intrigue, maybe they'd still be around.

eneth

Part of the problem with Oldsmobile was no doubt its large dealer base - remember that less than 20 years ago, Oldsmobile dealers were selling well over a million cars a year. No doubt some of the dealers collapsed along the way, but I suspect they had far too many of them for the sales figures they were generating at the time the demise of Oldsmobile was announced - under 300,000 a year.

GM has done a lot of pruning of that type recently - remember that models like the Camaro and Firebird formerly generated sales in the hundreds of thousands - once they collapsed to the tens of thousands, the models were axed.

dindak

Olds boom to bust sales numbers must be one of the biggest brand collapses in auto history. To go from having the best selling car in the US to folding is unbelievable.

Camaro or Firebird will be back at some point from what I have read. Olds will not.

oldsman01

I think that is an anniversary that isn't a joy to remember. I don't like seeing a great brand like Olds go when we have so many half-baked brands, but as mine has spent it's weekend in the shop, I can't get too teary eyed. Provided that I get the car back tomorroow, YTD I have spent 24 nights without my Intrigue in 2002.

I test drove the Mazda 6 again yesterday, not a bad car at a decent price, but I'm still not quite ready to take the plunge. Even if they offered me full payoff on my troublesome Intrigue. The 6 is an excellent alternative to the Camry and Accord as well as the Altima, but even fully loaded it lacks some of the extra things that I've grown used to on the Intrigue. And while the 6's V6 engine is smooth and revs nicely, it makes all the aurial pleasure of a Singer sewing machine. This was evident as I stood behind the car and listened to it's dual exhaust while it was running.

sunsession

I had the oil changed on my 2000 at 3,100 miles. The service department put a little sticker on my windshield stating the next change should be either on February 4 or at 6,100 miles, whichever comes first. I am now at about 5,100 miles and the oil change reminder light went on on the dashboard. It stays on for a few minutes (after all lights being tested have long disappeared)then goes off; only to go on again at the next start-up. Does this light activate according to mileage? Condition of oil? Time? It's likely that the service department did not reset the system when my first oil change was done. I did not try the manual reset, figuring I'll let it go until the 6,000 mile change, but I'd be a bit uncomfortable if this thing was responding to dirty oil. What's the story here?

vcjumper

It does not measure the condition of the oil, it just uses mileage, driving habits (city/highway speeds), dust conditions to guestimate when you should have your oil changed. They just forgot to reset the counter.

vcjumper

Maybe it only sounds good when pushed hard. I know I was underwhelmed with the CTS exhaust until one drove by me going the opposite way in WOT.

sunsession

Thanks. I'll just let it go and be sure it's reset at the next change. Speaking of which, I'm in the NYC area and we have lots of franchise auto repair and private service stations that sell oil changes for about half of what the Olds dealer charges. I understand that the Intrigue oil filter is not a "standard" size. Does this mean that an outside oil-change place is not likely to have the filter? If not, do the major oil filter manufacturers make one for the Intrigue? If I were to bring the proper filter with me, would a mechanic of average capabilities be able to do the job? Or would you recommend that I just spend the $30 and let Olds do it because of their familiarity with the car?

vcjumper

I don't trust the quicky places with mine because of the rarity of the engine and its luxury car cost of repair should anything go wrong with it, but thats just me, I'm nervous like that.

Usually twice a year I get the oil change done at the dealer when there is a special with tire rotation for $40 cdn. Its the other time I pay ~$30+ for just an oil change.

mfletouva

Hahahaha...
You are right about speeding tickets in Connecticut. Going southbound in particular seems to be a problem spot--on I-84 in MA the speed limit always was 65, in CT it is 55 right away and there is a little hill that virtually always had CT State Troopers sitting there ready to pounce on people doing 70, thinking they were fine. I think they finally raised the speed limit in CT though. It was so late at night that I didn't see any CT state troopers, and I really wasn't going that fast...

Actually, the only time I've ever even been pulled over is in the Toll State, Delaware. It was 2 AM in my Alero and I was on the completely empty Delaware Memorial Bridge. Apparently the speed limit on the bridge itself (which by the way is 6 lanes EACH way, not exactly difficult driving) is like 50 MPH, but I was the only car on the bridge and was just sort of coasting down towards the toll booth. Well the Alero picks up speed going downhill very rapidly (more so than the Intrigue), and sitting right there in the middle of the night was the Delaware River and Bay Authority Police (or something like that). As I went through the toll both with Fast Lane/EZ Pass he turned his lights on right behind me. He pulled me over, told me he clocked me at 71 (probably true) and then asked me about a dozen questions about who I was and where I was going. Asked me if I had a clean record, I said that I'd never gotten a ticket in my life, he said he'd check it out and then came back and issued me a warning and said that he didn't think I was trying to speed. I thanked him and that was that...

But still, everytime I'm near that bridge (which means everytime I'm in the state of Delaware) I watch it VERY carefully.

oldsman01

I guess I should say the 6's engine sounded better than the Camry or Accord(or Taurus)'s engine, it just didn't have that baritone roar that I've come to enjoy so much:) 3.5 liter Intrigue drivers will know what I'm referring to.

jg28

the local oil change place used to not carry oil filters for my 3.5 Intrigue so I ordered a bunch from GMparts.com. Low and behold the month after I did, they started carrying them. I can't believe anyone would go to a dealer for an oil change over one of the quicker places. The quicker places are more efficient and actually sometimes know more about the engine. NO ONE at my dealership ever remarked about the nice 3.5L engine in the Intrigue. But THREE TIMES when I went to the Jiffy Lube, three different guys asked me about how I liked the engine and they said they'd heard great things about it and all said it sounded great. The K&N filter has sure changed the sound of my Maxima engine. It sounds throaty and american now. I have to remind myself that I'm driving a car that was made in Japan.

b4z

I always go to the dealer to have my oil changed because if something goes wrong they have no one to blame but themselves. Same for tire rotation considering all the problems with warped rotors on today's cars.

buzzard4

Did anyone get the promotional DVD from Oldsmobile? It's very nicely done, with documentary-type stuff on the history of Olds and the innovations they've made over the years, and video brochures on the 4 remaining models. I guess the point was to get existing owners to go out and buy a new Olds. While it did make me think about trying to find a steal on an Aurora, it made me wonder even more why they didn't make efforts like this 4-5 years ago.

akitadog

Hello all,
I know I post sparingly, but I had to tell you all about the Wash. Auto Show. I spent about 4.5 hrs there and looked at virtually all the vehicles.

The new-bodied Grand Prix was there, as a G-Force concept, and I must say, it looks better than the pictures. It also was a very nice deep red color that I can best describe as "cranberry".

I managed to sit in my dream car (Z06 Vette) and though I was expecting the cockpit to be cramped, it was a bit roomier than I thought it would be. Also, the Vette coupe had a ton of trunk space for a two-seater rocket.
Also checked out the new Z and I have to say that the shifter was the best one I put through the motions. It was neither too hard nor too mushy. Felt better than the M3 or even the Z's cousin, the G35 coupe (these last two felt about the same). The next best shifter, amazingly, was the Sentra SE-R Spec V.

Well, I did my obligatory visit to the Olds lineup. It was like going to a family reunion and your favorite cousin couldn't make it this year. I hated not seeing the Intrigue (also considering that mine has been in the shop for over a month!) I also talked to a couple floor reps about the Intrigue. One went on about the engine, and the other said that it was his favorite of the lineup and that he liked how it handled, and said it was the perfect balance between the entry-level Alero and the bells and whistles of the Aurora.

Sat in the Mini Cooper S (my 2nd dream car, gotta balance out the Z06!) which had a ton of room for the front two, but if you're around 6 ft or more, anyone behind you will have no room for their legs.

I'm disappointed that Porsche wouldn't let you sit in the 911. I really wanted to feel the shifter.

I found the Bimmer 530 to be cramped up front, and I'm only 5'8". I expected better than that from them.

The Accord was blah, the new Civic had a nice interior, S2000 was cramped. Acura RSX interior was a souped up Civic.

Skipped Toyota/Lexus (yawn).

The upcoming turbo-racer Dodge Neon looks better in person (couldn't sit in it).

Skipped Mitsu.

Love the style of Infiniti G35 Coupe and Sedan. Liked the M45 styling better than the flagship Q45.

Sat in PT Cruiser turbo (yawn). Saw the opcoming Chrysler Crossfire, looks great, but only 215 horses? C'mon!

Oh, and questioned a stunningly attractive Latina female rep from "Monster Garage" display.

All in all, it was 8 bucks well spent.

Anyone else in the DC area go?

beach15

Didn't go to DC, but plan heavily on going to Baltimore in February for the second time. Actually, I'd really like to go to the NYC show in April for my birthday, but we'll see how that goess....Can't wait for either though!

dindak

I'd love to go to the Detroit show (only 3 hours from here) but I will settle for the Toronto show which is still very good, especially since it got international status a couple of years ago.

tcjeff

I plan to go to the show New Year's Day, mostly because Olds gave me 4 free passes (because I bought an Intrigue 3 years ago and they consider me a "loyal customer").
RE: an oil change - the first time I went to a "quickie" lube place, they drained the oil in my Shortstar and then realized they didn't have a filter for the engine. (They didn't charge me for putting fresh oil in the engine - gee, how nice of them...) The second time I went there, they apparently tightened the filter cover so tight, the dealer who was doing the next oil change had to use some kind of breaker bar to get it lose. (I admit I have never actually seen where the filter goes.) The dealer suggested that whoever changes the filter should use a torque wrench to put the filter cover on. Needless to say, I always go back to the dealer for oil changes after that.

regfootball

friend's neighbor just bought a new intrigue this wkd. good deals abound, 9 grand off sticker.

tcjeff

I plan to go to the show New Year's Day, mostly because Olds gave me 4 free passes (because I bought an Intrigue 3 years ago and they consider me a "loyal customer").
RE: an oil change - the first time I went to a "quickie" lube place, they drained the oil in my Shortstar and then realized they didn't have a filter for the engine. (They didn't charge me for putting fresh oil in the engine - gee, how nice of them...) The second time I went there, they apparently tightened the filter cover so tight, the dealer who was doing the next oil change had to use some kind of breaker bar to get it lose. (I admit I have never actually seen where the filter goes.) The dealer suggested that whoever changes the filter should use a torque wrench to put the filter cover on. Needless to say, I always go back to the dealer for oil changes after that.

dindak

Had mine done at the Jiffy lube twice. They always seem to have the needed Delco filter in stock and they don't charge extra for it either. Save about $5 vs the dealer and it's done in 5-7 minutes.

akitadog

Get to the auto show early. It opens at ten. My brother tried to go Sat. afternoon and the line to enter was out the door and down the street. It snakes back and forth once inside, so imagine how long it could get.

Oh, cash only to enter.

b4z

The intrigue thread got into the top 10 yesterday. How long has it been since THAT happened?
Most posts ever was 99 in one day on December 15, 2000.

oldsman01

The Mazda 6 thread has been generating alot of posts lately, reminds me of how this one used to do. I've pretty much given up over there though as most of them want to debate with the Camccord fans over whose resale value is better.

In other news, my Intrigue still waits at the dealer for the power steering hose to come in. I'd love to know where the parts for these cars come from because there is always a wait. They said if it comes in tomorrow morning, I should have the car back tomorrow evening, if not then Thursday would be the earliest as they are closed New Years Day. I tanked the loaner Alero up tonight because I already know it will be 2003 before I see my car again. Wonder what one is to do had they planned a road trip to see freinds or family during the holidays? I don't think I'd want to drive that loaner Alero on a long trip.

buzzard4, how did you get that DVD?

dindak

Fighting with Accord fanatics is tough. Mazda will definitely have lower resale but that doesn't mean it's an inferior car.

BTW.. Seems to me you have very slow dealer service.

mfletouva

A month or 2 ago this was also in the top 10, if you go back to then, a few strangers posted stuff like "I saw this in the Top 10 and I just wondered why" type stuff...

I missed the DC show (although I also got the free tix from Olds), but when is the Baltimore show, and is there a website? Might be fun to take a run up there...

The Mazda 6 just LOOKS small to me, I don't know if it really is or not, but it looks like it wouldn't have much room...I've heard different reports from different people, I'd like to see it for myself...

Got my Olds DVD in the mail today...you know, it'd be easier to go out and buy another one if there were any to buy! Other than a couple Aleros here and there, and the occassional Bravada, there's nothing to be found. I haven't seen a Silloeutte in forever, let alone an Aurora....

dindak

Luckily all the Chevy dealers in Canada are also Olds dealers. Plenty of Oldsmobiles on the lots up here. We bought an Alero this year as the Olds loyalty of $2K was just too juicy to pass up. We really love the car!

I'd love to get a copy of that DVD for the auto memorabilia collection

akitadog

The DC show runs through the 1st, so you can catch it Wednesday.

I also got the Olds DVD, but I got it when I requested literature from the Olds display at the show. There were plenty of them on Friday, and, with Olds' luck, there will still be plenty of them on the 1st.

buzzard4

Oldsman, the DVD just came in the mail a few days ago. I'm glad I snagged it before my wife turned it into a coaster like all the other CDs we get in the mail.

Maybe as tcjeff suggests, they're targeting people with 3-4 year old Intrigues to try and get them to replace them with another Olds. I also got free tickets to the Washington Auto Show from them, but I don't think I'm going to make it.

On your repair, my Intrigue sat in the shop for a week waiting for a P/S pump and pulley. The hose should be easier to get. I hope this isn't an indication of things to come with a dwindling part supply base.

b4z

Auroras are still be produced at the rate of 19-37 per week! Why bother.
I guess they are keeping it in production until
the Final 500 are built in the Spring.

mfletouva

Wow...I wonder who will buy all those Auroras. Up here in MA I have noticed that there are tons more Oldsmobiles of all stripes than in the DC area. When I drive around in No. VA I'm always excited to see another Intrigue; on my way to Boston yesterday I say 11! (in 35 miles!)

Anyway, I'm driving back to Alexandria tomorrow (which is why I will miss the DC show), so I'll keep an Intrigue count. Hope everybody has a happy New Year!

redly_one

I hate to say it, but I finally sold my 99 Intrigue. it sold for a disappointing $6750, but at least she went to an Oldsmobile family who will respect her and treat her right.

Man the used car market is brutal these days

FWIW...99 Olds Intrigue GX, 3.5L, silver/grey, power seat, moonroof, keyless, 58500 miles, great shape, clean title, on the market for 4 months earlier this year and then for the last 3.5 months. In the local paper (Indianapolis) for the last 2 months and online at autotrader.com for about the last 3. I recieved a whopping 3 calls total on the car in that time. I started out at $8500. Not until I knocked it down to $6999 did I even get a call. Only 2 people even looked at/drove it. 2nd one bought it...I assume being an Olds fan (Drove up in a sweet 98 Aurora) that he knew he was stealing it from me (true value wise, not market value). They were great people and even his wife raved about being an Olds fan

Thanks for all the info over the last 2 years I've been lurking here!!

redly_one

redline65

redly_one - Why did you get rid of your Intrigue? It had such low miles, was there something wrong with it or did you just want to get into something else? Mine cost a little over $21K back in 1999, and I would hate to part with it at this point because I know I couldn't get much for it. So I'll probably do like most Intrigue owners and drive the car until the wheels fall off (hopefully not before 100K miles).

white6

I have to say I was just thinking the other day (after cleaning up our 99 GL, inside and out) how well this car has held up. My wife is not easy on cars... and the Intrigue still looks great. Carpet is, in my opinion, top quality, as is the leather used. I do my best to maintain all my vehicles, but some tend to age better than others. Our Intrigue, at 74,000 miles and 4-years old, looks significantly better that our 97 Saturn SW2 did after two years and 24,000 miles. I see no reason why we shouldn't expect to put 150,000 miles on this puppy. My wife still likes the car and it remains economical to operate (24-25 mpg in weekly commute) and very functional in week-in and week-out use. Insurance cost has actually decreased about 25 percent. I would wager the theft rate on these cars is virtually nil. My satisfaction with this car has had it's ups and downs, but at the moment I'm satisfied. I just hope it doesn't get totalled in an accident... that's where I'll get killed on depreciation and not get all that future value from the car. BTW, did I mention it's paid for!!! That tends to improve any satisfaction index.

dindak

redly_one : Sorry you won't be part of the family anymore. It's always good to see a car go to a place it will be taken care of.

white6 : We still have 2 years of payments left. That said, I want to try and pay off the balance next year when I get my tax return / year end bonus.

mfletouva : My thinking is Oldsmobile's popularity is regional. NY, MI and here in Ontario are definitely big on the cars. They sell well and have very decent resale compared to any other domestic also. It seems this is not the case everywhere.

Happy New Year to all here in the Intrigue forum. I'm off to my mother-in-laws for dinner. Ugg!

jg28

How can I get one? I know I'm already on the notification list from Oldsmobile. Dunno why I didn't get one. Another thing I miss is the auto door locks. The Maxima (to my knowledge anyway) doesn't have them. It was always so nice knowing the doors were all locked. I had mine programmed so just the driver door would unlock in park. Plus, the door lock button was right where it ought to be... by the door handle and was so intuitive... Up to unlock down to lock. The Maxima has them located by the window buttons and is COUNTERintuitive... forward to lock, backward to unlock. Also miss the cornering lamps (although the HIDs are sure nice).