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Buick Regal



  • 14151415 Posts: 249
    I think the Borla system has been referred to as the "fart pipe", the SLP doesn't come close to that description; its mellow and pleasing.

    L8 Apex HOST::::::The Regal GS is a good choice, and the mods. you have in mind will only make it better. It sounds like a long term relationship. One thing about Buick is its excellent value in the used car marketplace.

    Got to get some work done and pump up my AARP fund.
  • frankkfrankk Posts: 35
    The choice for me was difficult. On one hand I prefer the GTP's suspension, but I dislike the boy racer look. Also at the time Buick had better incentives.

    I think that its unfair to label the GS as a "grandpa" car. In its price range there are only a few mid size sedans that are sportier (such as Maxima, GTP, Intrigue). The Goodyear LS tires stink, but that can easily be remedied. It probably wouldn't be too hard to stiffen up the suspension, some new struts would probably do the trick.
  • pacinpelopacinpelo Posts: 142
    Hey buddy, Welcome back.

    I looked at both GS and GTP and found the GS to be more conservative. Plus from the cosmetic standpoint the GTP sunroofs open out (Hate it), the GS opens in the roof of the body (claerly out of sight and cosmetically nice). The GTP has full time DRLs when the GS merely uses parking lights. The GS has a Monsoon CD/Cassette option an on the GTP you get a rather mundane stereo package with your choice of one (CD or Cassette) at least models in my area. The one drawback for the GS is the touring tires, but those change at first chance to get new rubber for the car. Plus how long before the GTP style looks tired and you surprise the HELL out of people who do not think a Buick can MOVE !! All the way GS!!
  • pacinpelopacinpelo Posts: 142
    I notice a difference under heavy acceleration. Harder, quicker 1,2 and 2,3 shifts in addition to the shift points being different (higher in the band).
  • etharmonetharmon Posts: 399
    I've found alot of the Chrylser folks are very partisan toward their cars and do not like it when cheaper and less powerful GM cars are quicker than their 300Ms. I've got the April issue of C&D. Nothing special in it although they did give the new Oldsmobile Bravada a pretty good review.

    1415, fart pipes are what you see on Asian 4 bangers with the exhaust openings the size of coffe cans. Borlas are pretty good exhaust systems.
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    You wrote: you surprise the HELL out of people who do not think a Buick can MOVE !!

    Not expecting Buick to move, police does not check its speed? Would be nice :-).

    But, in reality - not pipe dreams - I was surprised how easy is to pass Camaro. Of course, the base one, not V-8.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    Thanks for the input on the GTP vs the GS.

  • 14151415 Posts: 249
    Enjoyed the Mag article on the so-called sport sedans. Good old American Iron; massed produced and still ripping good vibes!!!!!

    They should put speed rated tires on all models and let it rip. Then you would have some good low-priced autobahn cruisers..

    Don't tell the liberals, though..They can keep the Escorts.
  • tlswhiztlswhiz Posts: 19
    On your Regal GS's and GSE's .. I'm curious to know what numbers any of you may have recorded .. any quarter-mile times? Any interesting drag-racing stories?


  • pinettedpinetted Posts: 104
    I just visited these sites and there is sure a lot more complaining going on than there is positive remarks. I'm glade I went with the Regal and its "old" 3800 engine.
  • jackjtjackjt Posts: 178
    Here's some info posted here awhile back:

    #94 of 95: 0 to 60 Times 01 GS (jackjt) Tue 05 Dec '00 (08:39 PM)

    Do any of you have any actual, real world times?
    From what I have read they seem to vary from 6.5 to
    7.3sec?? What's the norm?


    From Turbo Buick Site----Supercharger discussion:

    1998 Buick performance mods....Front and Rear Strut Tower Braces, tinted windows, '00 Regal Cup holders....14.278@95.92MPH

    #95 of 95: 0 to 60 times (pinetted) Wed 06 Dec '00 (05:57 AM)

    Car and Driver uses very accurate timing equipment
    and as a previous owner of a very fast 5.0
    Mustang I can tell you 6.5 seconds to 60 is very
    possible. Is every Regal made going to be that
    quick, probably not, but some may even be faster.
  • tlswhiztlswhiz Posts: 19
    Jackjt -- thanks for the info.

    I'm about to go up against a GSE in my new Acura TL Type S in a "semiofficial" 1/4 race .. I'm trying to do some homework and figure out what the odds are .. have any of you raced Acura CL Type S models?

    Thanks again
  • 14151415 Posts: 249
    When a 260 horsed-up $31k Asian creation is worried about $24k 240hp AARPer; it doesn't get any better!!!!!!

    Domestics all the way!!!!!!
  • tlswhiztlswhiz Posts: 19
    ...after punching it a couple times on the way home -- I shouldn't have ANY problem.
  • 14151415 Posts: 249
    What brand did you trade in??? I wish you luck with your Acura for it's heritage is deep in our history.

    While I am not 100% happy with the Big 3 products; I feel the alternate choices result in changes to the landscape of our American Industry..

    Good to see you hear the Buick's footsteps.

    Have a nice day!!!!
  • tlswhiztlswhiz Posts: 19
    At least you're not "bitter,"

    At any rate, I don't put much credence into what you are implying, are you aware of how many AMERICAN corporations have "sold out" and taken their employment opportunities either overseas or across the border (and i'm not talkin' about job openings at Taco Bell either..).

    "...result in changes to the landscape of our American Industry..."

    I'm not trying to offend you here at all, but I feel you've offended me in my choice of vehicles. While I do not think that your comment was on-topic, I will respond to it in a very civil, mature fashion:

    Your proverbial landscape of the American Industry has been tarnished and defiled by the very top corporations that inherited the "landscape" (to use your metaphore) when they decided to save some bucks and take their business elsewhere. It's the political pivot of many top democratic and republican candidates to KEEP business in the USA, despite these adamant corporations continuous flight to cheaper labor overseas or across the border. Um, last I checked, the Marysville, Ohio Acura plant, and the Honda plant, and the Toyota plant, and the Daimler-Chysler plant (somewhere in the US producing the ML320/430) have brought jobs TO the US .. is THAT the legacy you wish to retain -- or the continuing layoffs at US corps as they flee elsewhere for cheap labor?

    Just a thought, and again, I welcomed your opinion, and I mean you absolutey NO offense. I actually think, after having driven a friend's GSE, that the Buick is the BEST bang for the buck when it comes to sport sedans. However, if it wasn't plagued with the small creaks and rattles that he is noticing now (at 11K miles), I seriously would have considered it, and probably bought it. The warranty is solid, as is the service at his Buick dealership. It's a great looking car (especially the black/gray double-tone) and fast as heck! I never miss an opportunity to drive it.

    I traded in a '94 ES300
  • tlswhiztlswhiz Posts: 19
    I'm sorry, I don't feel offended -- I misread your post. I am sorry.
  • 14151415 Posts: 249
    tlswhiz:::::::I am impressed by your explanation of the vast employment opportunities available due to Asian and European invasion.

    Having owned 41 domestic cars in my many years+two Porsches 58/59; my dough will stay in this country..

    Haven't got the time to discuss the quality hype or the dumping of product reality..

    I do not own a Buick at this time but had a few over the years.. Still reside most of the year in the Motor City and peddle a few OEM auto parts. I understand where attitudes develop having spent a few years in the auto scenario. The Hondas along with Toyotas do very little business with American owned suppliers and about 90% of the car is built from products supplied by American-based
    Asian owned companies.. A great deception; but at my age it ain't going to affect me..
  • L8_ApexL8_Apex Posts: 187
    Let's keep the discussion Regal-centric, OK?


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  • L8_ApexL8_Apex Posts: 187
    As I sit here laughing at the irony of the above post, I'm wondering if you're all seeing the American flag next to my time. I (honestly) have no idea what caused this...
  • peufanpeufan Posts: 53
    What did you do???

    There's flags all over the place that weren't there before.
    (look at the comments previous to yours).

    It is pretty amusing!
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    The "flags" were just rolled in a little bit ago tonight here in this International Town Hall.

    If a flag does not appear by your name, this means you have not selected a country in your profile - you can do so by clicking on the "My Profile" link at the top of the page.

    I think this is way cool - if you see a flag you don't recognize, you can just put your cursor on top of it and the name of the country will display.

    Just think - we can all learn LOTS from this.


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  • pacinpelopacinpelo Posts: 142
    FYI....Ironic you started posting...
    I had fun just this week putting a TL type S to the test.
    The GS was very much up to the test, on two traffic light to traffic light runs it was a dead heat, my GS was about a quarter car length up, but not by much. Each of us broke off at about 75 mph. The TL engine did not sound to pleasant on its high revs though almost like it was going to go into cardiac arrest.
  • pacinpelopacinpelo Posts: 142
    Which one to choose?

    I do not see Galapagos Islands. But there are some interesting choices.
  • jackjtjackjt Posts: 178
    tls vs the gs? Who won? The suspense is really building on this board:-)

    Yes! The flag was raised just in time!
  • tlswhiztlswhiz Posts: 19
    Hmmm, Mr. Pancipello,

    You're racing phantom TL Type S Acuras, my friend, it was officially released to anyone who owns one now on Thursday of this week. Perhaps you were racing a CL Type S, in which case is a little slower off the line than a TL Type S. I'm gunna take your word for it though, and it's interesting to see a post so soon of a GS vs. TL Type S race! Plus, the person racing you .. could you tell if he was... no you prolly couldn't .. whether or not he was using the sequential sportshift... oh well, my buddy and i are racing on Monday, I'll keep you posted -- especially you Mr. 141516.

  • tlswhiztlswhiz Posts: 19
    Interesting choice of words, but in my honest opinion, it sounds pretty darned refined to me -- now that winy supercharger of the Regal.. hmm, we gotta do something 'bout that at low rpms. Lemme know when ya do a true 1/4 mile, i'll be interested to see how ya fare 'gainst the high cholesterol, overweight, at-risk-of-a-stroke Acura..
  • L8_ApexL8_Apex Posts: 187
    You're going to race a car with what, all of a few hundred miles on it? Do you think that's a good idea? I run my cars hard but even I wouldn't do that...
  • tlswhiztlswhiz Posts: 19
    You're probably -- i'm just so trigger happy now that I have a car that can somewhat perform -- plus, it's only a 1/4 mile (but I suppose when it's brand new, that's when problems can surface if I run the engine too hard).

    However -- I'll easily have 1000 in a few weeks..

    Oh, I was in his GSE last night again, and I noticed something:

    When you accelerate (hard acceleration) the psi gauge goes from 0.0 to near 6.7/7.7 psi, but what I was curious to see is how many pounds it put out when you mash it at cruising speeds (40/50/60 mph) .. I noticed his didn't really go past 2.0 psi while still in overdrive, and then it very quickly dropped to 3rd gear (or 4th, i don't know how that car is geared .. well, since it's a 4-speed, then 3rd), and THEN the psi went up to 5.0. I thought that was interesting ..

    Also -- it was equally interesting how his fuel gauge moved faster to Empty than my tachometer in my '94 ES300 moved to 7000 rpms at full throttle!! Wow, whutta gas guzzler. He says he averages 12.0 mpg in city driving.

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