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Jones Honda in Lancaster was (is?)doing $1000 off MSRP. Bedard Bros. in Cheshire, MA was (is?) doing $950 over invoice.
I ordered from Bianchi in Erie, PA, and got a deal roughly equivalent to Bedard (travel to Erie was easier for me than to Chesire, MA).
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I ordered my Silver Touring with NAv through Bedard Brothers around the 20 of October. The VIN# should be here anytime soon. I will write about the entire process as soon as I get my van. Good luck.
Nothing lost in talking to people. The edmunds site has been invaluable in helping me with the best price and where to go. The least I can do is to return the favor to future readers of edmunds.
The hard part about buying in Mss (at least from this dealer) is that they do not have temp/transport tags (like you would get in NY or PA). You have to pay in advance (in full), and they will overnight the paper work to you. You then have to go into the DMV and register it (and pay the 1% difference in tax). Once you have the registration and plates in hand, you can go get your new van.
This deal only makes sense if you either live close enough to make multiple trips there, or don't need them to finance or take a trade in. Almost works more like Ebay.
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This is why even my insurance agent suggested that I take the plates from my present van which I am not trading in and come back from MA and take the new vehicle to the PA DMV office and get the new plates. I am not paying them in full before I see the van :-),also I have said that I do not want my van being test driven by anybody. I wrote that clause into the purchase order. Icecream bought his van from them and he was also very happy with the entire process. He is from Ohio. Lets see how things work out.
Excuse the question, but is this legal - driving one car with plates / registration from another??
To get the right price for your model, just change the invoice price in my calculations & recompute the rest. You can get the invoice for all models from edmunds.com
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/honda/odyssey/index.html?tid=edmu- nds.n.pricemindex.popular.num1.1.*
This url can give u the invoice for all models
Of course, if anyone else is closing deals below MSRP in southern CA, I'd love to know. So far, I've yet to see any.
My insurance company says so. When I was given this advice by Bedard Brothers I was quite sceptical. But insurance people came back with the same answer.
So if anybody on this board thinks that this is not a good idea please do write to this site. Until I get my van I seem to be checking this site every few hours. HE HE HE!!!
Now, if I get a good deal from other state e.g CA or Idaho, do I have to pay sales tax.
The tax on $30,000+ car would be a lot - may eat whatever, I save from a good deal
I drove it without plate back to California....You only need your Insure to fax to you the your insure.....If the police stoped you (like they the to me) You just give your papel that is the end....Continuo driving and you have what ever time NJ give you to register.
Good luck
Your estimates are in line with what is given at carbuyingtips.com. Generally, 3-5% is suggested for automobiles. This, however, might be too low for vehicles in greater demand. Also, the final price does depend on what part of the region you are getting you vehicle from. IMHO, 10% profit is a fair margin even for the vehicles with high demand. BTW, good luck with your purchase.
Let me know if you can.
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Can you please tell me which other dealers in Northern California (Bay Area) did you have offers up to $1000 below MSRP?
I'm looking to buy an Odyssey in San Jose area. I'm willing to travel up to 500 miles to get a good deal.
As to confirm your observation, I visited Honda of Stevens Creek and they had about 19 Odys on the lot about 2 weeks ago. I know the demand is not as great as before for the Ody, but the internet manager for SC Honda was arguing that the market value for the car is MSRP and above and he couldn't sell it for less. After 3 miutes of talking to him, he said he'd ask (someone) to see if he could sell it for $500 below MSRP. I told him I wanted $2000 under. That was a long shot but I'm willing to wait to get a better deal.
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39:3-33. Markers; requirements concerning; display of fictitious or wrong numbers, etc.; punishment
The owner of an automobile which is driven on the public highways of this State shall display not less than 12 inches nor more than 48 inches from the ground in a horizontal position, and in such a way as not to swing, an identification mark or marks to be furnished by the division; provided, that if two marks are issued they shall be displayed on the front and rear of the vehicle; and provided, further, that if only one mark is issued it shall be displayed on the rear of the vehicle
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No person shall drive a motor vehicle the owner of which has not complied with the provisions of this subtitle concerning the proper registration and identification thereof, nor drive a motor vehicle which displays a fictitious number, or a number other than that designated for the motor vehicle in its registration certificate...
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A person convicted of displaying a fictitious number, as prohibited herein, shall be subject to a fine not exceeding $500.00 or imprisonment in the county jail for not more than 60 days.
I finally bought an EXL Navi RES in Silver Pearl with gray interior on 10/30. I bought it for $500 below MSRP at Manly Honda in Santa Rosa in Northern California. They were great to deal with and very low pressure. I had major problems at two other Northern California dealerships that I would like to share:
I had received a written quote for $500 below MSRP from Charmichael Honda, but they did not have the van I wanted–EXL Navi RES.
At Honda of Vacaville, I was told they only do MSRP on my first visit. On my second visit to look at an EXL Navi RES in Sage Brush Pearl with olive interior, I was promptly told that they would price match for $500 below. After looking over the van for a few hours and calling my 8-month pregnant wife to view the interior color, I went to discuss a deal. The salesman then told me that van was not for sale as it was “pre-contracted for” and another salesman had forgotten to list it on the board. I was then told that I could pre-contract for MSRP because he was mistaken about price matching. He told me they did sell an EX for $500 below, but only because it had been on the lot for 21 days and why would he sell me a Navi model for below MSRP when he could easily sell it for more. I told him because he promised me that price and I just wasted several hours looking over a van that I could not buy. He said it was MSRP only.
I then called Autowest Honda in Roseville and learned that they had a Navi in Slate Green. I told the internet manager that I had been quoted $500 below MSRP and after he talked to his sales manager, he agreed to match it. I drove up there (about 40 miles) and he stated that he could do the deal for $5 below MSRP. I thought he was joking and said $500 below. He said it was $5 below and he thought that was fine because I said I would not pay MSRP. Who buys a $34,000 car and wants $5 off?!? And why would he need to check with a sales manager to do that?!? Needless to say, I immediately left.
By then, my wife had called Manly Honda in Santa Rosa (70 miles) and they quickly agreed to sell for $500 below MSRP. They put the van through PDI and detailed it while I was on my way. After a thorough inspection and test drives, they cleaned the van up while I did the paperwork in one hour. While they did try to sell me useless items (vehicle etching, leather guard, extended warranty), they were very low pressure.
I have enjoyed this bulletin board and have learned great information from it. Please benefit from my experiences and DO NOT BUY from Vacaville Honda and Autowest Honda in Roseville. They tried to pull their dirty tricks to get me to invest my time and energy at their dealership and then change their prices–the old bait and switch. When I called them on it, they could care less because they take the attitude that there are hundreds of potential customers out there. Please help me to let them know that Odyssey customers are smarter than that.
BTW, the van is awesome!!!
We just called Bedard and they confirmed the price with a fax of the bill of sales. The bill of sales confirmed the price of $960+50 over invoice but nothing about the $1000 deposit or paying the sales tax. So when can you register the car?
If anyone picked up their car, were they happy with it? This deal sounds too good to be true.
Honda Carland in Roswell GA says $33,100 is bottom line and best deal in ATL... meanwhile Paul Carey Honda in ATL area beats their offer by over $2,000.
Be careful out there! The local Honda dealers are high on high margin odyssey with the 05 Odyssey...
This means approx. 1500 below MSRP without any argument on one of, if not the most popular model, and local dealers even have it in stock once in a while. Regardless, this is from a dealer that wasnt willing to budge from MSRP on 9/22. This is to Honda dealers: PRICES ARE GOING DOWN WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!
Thanks njlaw.
The PA Statue (Title 75, Chapter 13, Subchapter C) appears to be similar:
1372. Unauthorized transfer or use of registration.
No person shall:
1. allow a registration card or plate or permit to be used by any person not authorized to use it or on any vehicle other than the vehicle for which it was issued;
2. use any registration card or plate or permit unless authorized to do so; or
3. display a registration card or plate in, on or in connection with any vehicle other than the vehicle for which it was issued.
Hmm... They may be quoting this. I think I better go in and get a letter from both the insurance agent as well as my DMV office before going on my carpet ride to pick up my silver van :-) Thank you for the heads-up. I am just waiting for the VIN# to come in.
when you paid with CC, you must have signed a credit card slip or invoice or sales bill or order form? Please let us know what happens!
Can I get my $500 back if they failed to locate a van in 7 days? Anyone has similar experience? Also, what if for some reason I decided not to go with the deal anymore.