2013 and earlier Honda Odyssey Prices Paid and Buying Experience

asm4

We want to buy a base EX model without leather, but cannot get it below MSRP at the local dealers + tax, tag and $200 doc. fee. Does anyone know of dealers in North Carolina, South Carlolina or Georgia that may be willing to sell below MSRP. Also has anyone bought a vehicle in another state to get a better deal? How does the registration process work in that case? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thankyou.

vincereynolds

http://www.epinions.com/content_34199539332

Instead of rambling, I thought that I would post regular updates of my van's performance and problems.

Take care,

Vince

Atlanta, Ga

mbquestion

Does anyone know of a dealer in or around the Bay Area (California) where I can get a decent price on a 2002 EX-L (i.e. MSRP or lower)?

Thank you!

bb8

You can try the Honda dealer in Elkgrove, California. it is located at high 99 and elkgrove blvd. MSRP is possible.

raybear

Ukiah sells at MSRP, they're about it, and I know it's not really the Bay Area. You can definitely get MSRP in SoCal.

rwestmoreland

Hi Vicki,

Thanks for the kind words.Odyssey sales are as brisk as ever..Hope all is going well with you and your family.. Have a great new year and call if you need anything..And of course.. Enjoy your Odyssey...
Randy Westmoreland

rwestmoreland

I also wanted to write a small note informing those that believe the demand for Odyssey's will go down or that production of Odyssey's will go up..!!!! The Pilot will be produced in Ontario so the production of Odyssey's will not increase as everyone expects..Also dealerships are already taking deposits for Pilots that are expected to be sold well over MSRP..Bottom line..if you can get an Odyssey for MSRP or just below..buy it..Thinking that the Odyssey will soon or within months be priced closer to invoice is a mistaken thought process as it will not happen...

rustyjay

The portable DVD player is a great idea. You could also use a Laptop with the DVD/CD player in it. Some of the prices at DELL computers (I'm not linked to them) are pretty good right now. Straps or velcro should do the trick for holding it in place. Quite a bit more portable, versatile, and useful for other things like that CD rom disc that has the latest street maps for navigation purposes. Not quite a Navigation system but sometimes better than a paper map.

lss1

in repsone to person told 3 months--we went in around christmas. were also told up to 3 months (ex without leather), but that would likely be much sooner. I suspect that people put name on waiting list at several dealers, or end up buying a different van.
has anyone brought extended warranty from Hersons or other delaers in D.C. area? Had tape deck installed?--if so what price?

dbarnett

think about driving to Beaumont. In Oct. I purchased a 2002 EX-L from Twin City Honda in Port Arthur. They were straight shooters and sold it to me at about 400-500 below MSRP. The drive out price with TT&L was 30,200.00. It was sitting on the lot so I went in, test drove it, came back the next morning and bought it with very little negotiation.

mbquestion

Still haven't found and EX-L around the Bay Area for even near MSRP. Any help would be appreciated. In addition, I would be willing to road trip to So. Cal or between Bay Area and So. Cal. (Monterey? Santa Barbara? LA?) to get one at MSRP or below.

Please Help! I just got a flat driving my hubby's old car!

diye

Just paid MSRP ( $24,690 ) for a silver 2002 LX at Family Honda in Rancho Santa Margarita, Orange County, CA. Sales person is Brad.

raybear

LA, definitely, Bakersfield, maybe if he has one. The rest, no.

bolthead

Just before Christmas, I paid $500 over MSRP for a silver '02 EX-L at Tracy Honda, which is only about 1 hours drive from most of the Bay Area. I requested some quotes from various Bay Area dealers - all were at least $1,500 over MSRP. I wasn't expecting to buy on Odyssey soon because I wasn't willing to pay that much over MSRP. 3 days before Christmas I received a call from a salesman from Tracy Honda, who said they had silver Ody on their lot. My wife and I drove out the next day and feel in love with it...the DVD system is GREAT! Good luck.

hoss02

Just got an '02 LX; paid list of $24,690 plus registration and dealer grubber fees totalling $268 (got first 3 oil changes included). I was happy to get it at list in NJ as it's a good value at that price. For those unfortunate enough to live in an area commanding premiums, keep this in mind: If you were selling a used car with an asking price of the highest of all price guides, and three people all wanted the car and bid it up to $1,000 over your asking price...... Would you sell it to the first person that contacted you at your asking price, or to the highest bidder? In our great capitalistic free-market economy, it is the consumers in the local marketplace who set the price, not the dealers. The dealers are only there to seize the moment. The high-margin Odyssey and S2000 sales offset the often low-margin Civic and Accord sales.
This was by far the easiest purchase I ever made. It was easier than buying shoes or a home appliance. Financing through Honda was effortless. As far as the van, it's great; seems a lot better than the unreliable '99 Grand Caravan we were happy to unload!

bryann

hey guys, if you are in the DC metro area, i would avoid herson's like the plague. they are rip offs. i bought an '01 EX from O'donnell Honda in ellicott city. it is a little farther from my house, but the service and sales team are so much better. i bought it from jerry sommerville and i got the ex for MSRP, but he threw in mud flaps, cargo net, cargo cover, trunk tray, and wheel locks. i have friends that paid more, but are happy. i would personally avoid herson's and college park honda. they will bait and switch and add a lot of dealer installed options they don't tell you about until you come to get the car. if this seems harsh, i apologize, but i have received bad service and lies from the sales people there.

ateixeira

I think you should be allowed to share your opinions in this forum. In a way, a non-recommendation like that helps people more than a good reference.

-juice

odymanout

ASM4,

Ed Voyles in Atlanta offered $40 below MSRP. I did not accept because I believe prices will drop further, but they seems like a pretty good dealer to work with.

lss1

posted a few days ago that expecting this week after about a 3 1/2 week wait. had gotten call that on way and would be in 7-10 days.

call on monday after 10 days--told not yet--few more days. Tuesday get call-oops--5 were not in transit, but first being built and alocated to hersons. clerk made error and told salesman on way. will be another month.

lets vote--a-telling truth-inadvertent screw up
b-sold to someone else on spot, possibly for more than list
c--other

(ended up at hersons after getting recomendations from 2 others)

while at this--service ?-have seen soem ridiculous service prices--7500 miel oil change and inspection of various parts for over $100 etc.. is this common from dealers. have american cars in pst and delaers never charged close to what honda delears want for scheduled maintenance

i ended up their after getting good recomendations from 2 other people.

jmurman42

sorry to hear about your hassles with Hersons. I hear many horror stories from dealers in that area. Even though Honda has a very hot selling property right now, we still want satisfied customers.

Jerry

s1gins

Hoss02,

Where in NJ did you buy the van and when yousay list do you mean MSRP?

Thanks

hoss02

I bought from Rt. 23 Honda in Pompton Plains. Salesman was Alex Gelfand; very honest & straightforward. "List" price is MSRP which is $24,690 including freight. Ordered on 8/20/01 for December delivery & they had one come in late November. Declined it and got one on Jan. 3, '02. No high pressure to buy highly overpriced options, etching etc. (you can get the same $14 annual discount on your insurance by getting etching done free by your local police or insurance company). Overall, a very good buying experience. They asked me to let them know if there's anything that would prevent me from rating them "excellent" on the Honda owner survey, and I can't think of any reason.

thaits

I'm interested buying 2002 Honda Odyssey EX-L, but its very hard to get one in TX. Most of them sell at MSRP price or maybe only $500.00 discount is the most. I think there is no way to get an Invoice Price from Honda. Anyone get better than that price? Please let me know. Thanks!!!

raybear

No better than that. You did fine.

gocanes

Went to one dealer and he told me he would have no problem getting my my White EX-L in three weeks. Gave him $500 deposit. He kept calling and saying if I wanted the GG he could deliver that night. But Wife wants White, so I told him no, and now he's telling me it is going to be a long time before white comes in. Went to another dealer, he showed me the Dealership On-Order Detail report, said that my White EX-L has a target Production date scheduled for 02/10 to 02/14. He said it should be delivered 10 days after production date. Does this sound right? I have a lease I need to turn in.

Thanks in advance for the info.

raybear

Jayson, that sounds right.

navyair

Really like the 02 model. However, got the same treatment as previous post RE getting the brush off. One Northern VA dealer used "bait and switch" quoting LX prices for EX equipped van for Honda e-mail request quote ("a mistake" when E-mail described exact EX-L RES equipment wanted)...to get me into showroom. Md dealer gave me a "yeah we offer good deals and beat anyone, just like our ad says...as long as it is MSRP" Same one who was calling customer a jerk in mid 1800's postings. Same old tired sales tools moved to the Internet.

Selling cars for a living is hard. However, treating people like they are dirt and expecting them to like it isn't part of the equation. Love the van, loath the sales force...I'll be buying something else. Since I keep them forever, resale isn't a factor.

larrychow

Just received a quote for under $31,000

dogtrainer

If you still want the Honda, try Pohanka Honda in Fredericksburg VA or the Honda dealer on Rt. 301 in Waldorf MD (can't remember the name, may be Waldorf Honda). There have been many good reports about these dealers here.

Good luck.

dchopp

Has anyone out there leased an Oddy and what kind of prices are we talking about?
DCH

lembeckede

Looking for information about dealerships (good and bad) and pricing in central Pa, but willing to travel for a good deal and dealer. Any info would be great. Thanks in advance. Michael

hoss02

I bought, but a friend leased an '02 LX (only option: CD player) for $470/mo., $0 down. Don't know the specifics on the other fees; I think it was just title/regis.

Navyair, so what's your problem with paying MSRP like everyone else? Be happy you live in an area where it's not OVER list. Even if you keep it 10-12 years, it's still going to be worth several thousand dollars, and probably $2,000 more than a comparable Ford/Chrysler/GM van. And if resale isn't a factor, isn't reliability? Hondas aren't perfect, something(s) WILL need repair. But statistically you'll spend a lot less than on those other brands over the life of the van. And that disappearing third row of seats can't be beat.
Don't get caught up in dealer personality issues. All dealers are generally of the same mindset: make as much profit as possible. Honda dealers are no less good/more evil than the guys at any other brand dealership. Good luck.

diye

I don't have the energy to calculate lease payment, but 470/mo seems high. Because if I borrow a car loan of $24690 + $1913 tax, with 6% and five year term, the monthly payment would be $514 -- not too much more than 470/mo. I expect loan payment much more than lease payment.

inky

The price of several 00 Odyssey EX are falling rapidly as reality is now setting in. Asking prices at dealers are now about $22,500 for an EX with 23k miles. Still high but not so unrealistic as before. I have noticed a Mesa Beige sitting at Mark Roberts Honda for a month now! Of course they still want MSRP. But Alabama production is getting significant now (10,000 per month Canada, 1,500 Alabama and rising rapidly. Discounts are coming to those who wait.
INKY

jmurman42

I wish that I could explain why his lease was so high. Residual vales on EX's are about 62% right now. Thats very high, and should make a lease payment fairly reasonable.

I often get requests for lease payments through email, and to tell you the truth they are fairly time consuming and complicated to work out.

Jerry

jmurman42

I guess that is dependent on where you live. As an example, we are building a new showroom and Honda has rewarded us with two extra months of allocations (300 extra cars). With an additional 50+ Odysseys over 90 days all are STILL selling well before they arrive.

Jerry

wolveseatsheep

Where did you get those production numbers (10,000/1,500) from?

Honda seems so interested in keeping Odyssey production a secret... questions like when will Alabama plant be wide open - and when (if ever) will the canada plant start switching to the Pilot? I keep reading that the switch will happen - but when is a key question.

My local dealer said yesterday that he's getting 30 Odysseys in February - way more than normal. He says his dealership is being rewarded for something but I am wondering if the Alabama plant is finally starting to make a difference. Anybody hear anything similar from local dealers regarding February increases?

usmarine

We are getting ready to buy a 2002 GG LX in the Wash DC Area. Does anyone have recent experience with availability and price on the LX model (I note that most people are buying and most dealers showing EX in inventory)? I am interested in price paid and length of wait. We are not in a big hurry, but don't want to wait for months (otherwise we'd probably use UBS).

fibber2

I am a traditional leaser ('97 Gnd Caravan, then '00 Windstar), but decided to buy the Ody EX.

My logic: I asked for the raw inputs and was told that the current '02 EX numbers for 3yr/45k miles were Residual=61%, Money Factor = 0.00285 (almost 7%), Bank Fee = $550. When I ran the figures they didn't look too favorable. The residual used is fair, (although they used to be better), but the money factor is too high to make the payment work.

With $0 down (as I usually do on subvented leases - throw everything in - tax, all charges) and a few accessories, it rings in at something like $475 a month. That is not far enough below the purchase financed figure (with the 6.25% bank loan I secured). It would be fine on a heavily depreciated vehicle, but I expect the actual marketplace residual to be well over the 61% used in the lease math. Private sale figures on '99 vans are probably running 70% or more??? That could make it a better deal to buy and sell if you wish at the 3 yr point, rather than lease and turn it in.

Hope this doesn't totally confuse you - leasing math is a very convoluted processes.

Steve

inky

Autonews publishes all North American production each and every week in detail. No secret at all

http://www.autonews.com/files/prod.pdf

Actual lastest are 13k Canada and 2.5k alabama.

In posting Candadian truck mean Canada and other is Alabmama. That is a lot of vans.

INKY

hoss02

Fibber2, as I posted earlier, a friend is paying about $475/mo. for an LX, so that does seem reasonable for an EX, although I still think it's high for a lease. That's why I bought this one (BTW, got 5.9% right from the dealer on Honda financing. I don't know if rates have gone up since early January, but your 6.25% seems high, although that difference will only be about $1.50/mo.)
Since I had paid $335/mo. for a $26,000 Grand Caravan, these lease prices seem very high to me, especially on a car that retains such a high value used. People that lease generally have a tax advantage to doing so, don't have the money to put down, or just don't care enough to look at the long-term cost-per-month of having the vehicle. The Grand Caravan would have cost more than $335/mo. for the three years I had it; I would have had to keep it a lot longer to get the monthly cost down to $335/mo., and it would have had to be without expensive repairs, something that it clearly was not indicating in its first three years.

wolveseatsheep

Great link! So I guess that Ody production will actually increase at least until they start making Pilots... I wonder when that will be? Anybody know?

inky

If I remember, most Odyssey will come from Alabama and Canadian plant will go MDX and Pilot.
But Alabama can go pilot and MDX if needed as demand varies. This is recollecion only.
I would say Pilot due Aug in mass, Jun production so will start making soon if all goes well.
INKY

aspesisteve

not on this car.
I even tried sending pricing requests through Edmunds using several different zip codes so I might get one quote from one dealer out there in the state of Calif. All I get is the standard letter of how the dealer is dedicated to service and satisfaction and they will call to make sure I'm asking for the correct model.

The Odyssey is so basic with features, how difficult can it be to say what it will cost for an EX leather / DVD in any color (GG prefered)?

I did have two dealers finally call me and he still wouldn't quote a price over the phone. One guy did go so far as to say there was a 50/50 chance I could get MSRP. Wow, he really stuck his neck out. I told him I ready to buy and will give him a deposit over the phone - but no price.

raybear

Availability is tight. MSRP is the best you'll do, usually in SoCal but some dealers north of the Bay Area have come around.

ateixeira

Translation: he'll sell it to you for MSRP if noone comes in between now and then and offers to pay more.

-juice

fibber2

Stuart,

I agree. The residual being used here is about the same as I got on my '97 Gnd Caravan Sport, and at the time I got a lower interest rate, yielding (with a few hundred down) a lease payment of about $80 less. Bottom line: Honda has no incentive to subsidize the lease, so you might as well just buy it.

A small part of the problem here also is the bank fee - one of the highest in the business. Consider that Toyota and Ford are $0. Take $550, add in finance charges (especially at high money factors), and sales tax (yes, you pay sales tax if you roll it into the monthly payment, and then finance charges again on the sales tax amt - tricky compounding!!), over 36 months it adds about $20 / month.

Leasing works great for everyone when the mfgr is trying to temporarily up production or move inventory. Honda doesn't have that problem, so no free rides!

Steve

hondas2000fan

I bought an S2000 from Steve Winters at Hatfield Honda in Toledo, OH and paid MSRP. I thought that was fair but now that my wife needs/wants an Odyssey, I kind of expected to pay less than MSRP, especially with the new plant. He did offer me $600 off sticker with a 2 month wait, but I did not place an order. Does anyone think I should jump on this deal or wait??

aspesisteve

is demand so high on these vehicles that a dealer out there can't quote MSRP?

Jeez!

I'm willing to pay MSRP no questions asked - I even told the guy over the phone I'll go MSRP and he said it's 50/50 that I can get it for that. What salesmanship, what service, where's my "hassle free quote" I ask?

For all the other cars out there that are not in as high a demand, I do
not feel one bit sorry for sales people who deal with price shoppers - because they are showing
their true colors with the Odyssey. I know damn well the car they identified at the plant will never come my way if they can find someone in a big hurry willing to pay a few hundred more.

I've seen so many car saleman say how it is so petty for people to shop around for a couple hundred bucks on a car.

Any price beyond MSRP and I wait on the side lines till supply catches up.

bb8

I owned 2 Honda accords and a Toyota Previa and they are very great and reliable, Hondas are great but they are not excellent in handling, mediocre brake and noise transmission, and the late Honda models are bland and ugly like any Ford Taurus, I believed they discontented a lot of cute exterior designs that made them a Honda, bla, bla. when I tried to get a quote of Ody over the internet, the quote is $1400 over MSRP with the first salesman saying that they have 2 in stock, then the second salesmen from the same dealer called and never gave me a quote, just mention how proud is their product and they took pride in their dealership and wanted me to come over. I don't think I will buy another Honda for my next Van, I am ready to jump the boat. Toyota is offering a big rebate and Kia Sedona posts as a serious competitor.
If the Dealer want to ask for over MSRP, tell them they can keep it.