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Honda Odyssey: Problems & Solutions:(1995-2004 Models)
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will give me only 20-21 mpg at the most. I have only run regular gas in my Ody but am wondering if premium gas would increase my mileage enough to warrant paying the extra 20 cents. Or are most other owners getting similar mileage?
My problem is that just 2 days ago, I noticed that my clock is not lit up when the headlights are on. It still keeps excellent time, I just cannot see it at night. All other dash backlights are fine. It is just the clock that is completely dark. Any ideas?
TIA. SCMelvin
The AC compressor was replaced to get rid of a clunk on startup. Both front struts were replaced to get rid of a squeek over every bump. All front suspension bushings were replaced twice, as well as lubricated, trying to alleviate a clunk that was felt and heard in the steering. The entire steering rack was replaced for the same problem (still didnt fix the problem and was the reason for Honda taking the van back). Both power door latches were replaced, as well as sensors that set off the door open alarm. One power door motor was replaced because the door would not fully close. All four doors required realignment due to rubbing and sticking problems. The battery died after only 12k.
As you can see, this van did not live up to the Honda name. It wouldn't have even lived up to the Kia name. She had to take the van to the dealer at least 25 times and was constantly stuck in a rental car. The van spent about a month in the shop in a year's time. I just hope the second one proves that Honda can still make a quality car. So far she is happy with it. One thing is for sure, she is one lucky person to get Honda to do what they did. She was told it's unheard of.
it's coming from. thanks
I also have other rattles, most coming from dash area, steering column, sun visor on driver side, passenger side front door when driving on modest rough road or small bumps.
I believe harsh ride of odyssey contribute to most of these rattles. My tires are 35 psi, all driving are done at San Francisco Bay Area. Maybe 2002 modified suspension will take harshes out of the odyssey.
did you bring it to the dealer yet for that annoying clicking noise?
This time the dealer at first could not start the van, then it started after a second try a few hours later. A mechanic remembered a Honda bulletin about a wiring harnes problem with the 1999 and 2000 Odyssey's. The lead to the #11 fuse under the driver's side dash gets loose and causes the problem. In subsequent models they installed a fuse box cover (H/C 6536338, P/N 382-S3V-A01) to protect this fuse. According to Honda "The fuse box cover was added to the 2001 and 2002 mdels and was never installed on the 199 and 2000 models."
The odd thing about it was that a third technician who remembered this bulletin overheard two others discussing this problem with my van and said "Hey there is this bulletin..." If this stuff was online and searchable I would have orderd the damn part myself and saved Honda a tow charge of at least $100.
I have a 2000 EX, with 33K miles on it. The driver's side sliding door closes but does not latch at the rear of the door. The dealer said there is a small motor that seats the back of the door into the latch and that this has been a common problem.
Good Luck
Apparently this is not a wide-spread problem with Odys, but it spread to me for sure.
The first time Honda fixed it by performing the work called for by TSB 00-009 which calls for re-routing the PCV flow by doing some work on the intake. On the second occasion they simply cleaned the EGR port. These two visits were done under warranty.
The third occasion was after my warranty expired, at 36,700 miles. I took the car to my local mechanic who reset the code and charged me $35 and told me that if it recurred he would have to replace the EGR valve. Three days later it came on again and I replaced the EGR for $228.
Three days after my local mechanic fixed the problem, the light came on again. This time I took it to Honda and they removed the intake
manifold and cleaned the port and charged me $152.
At that time I requested that they fix it under warranty since the problem was a recurring one starting while my car was still under warranty. I asked if they knew about the TSB's listed at the NHTSA site. They knew about the TSB 00-009. I asked about one numbered 157 or 161000 that referred to the EGR. They claimed no knowledge of any such TSB.
ALLDATA did not have the TSB's at that time (July 2000).I asked NHTSA for more information by submitting a request for a search. After I sent the request, they advised that I would have to agree in advance to pay a "search fee" based upon a $25-$25 per hour rate for the info. I told them to forget it. I then called my congressmans office and told them about my problem. In about a week I got a free reply from NHTSA. It seems that the TSB 157 is actually a "Service Engineering Survey" dated 10/16/00 ( this is where the number 161000 comes from in Governtmentese). This survey is an internal Honda document to their dealers which states that TSB 00-009 adresses the problem of cars which haven't had a blocked EGR but doesn't address cars which already had a blocked EGR. In these cases, the dealers are supposed to "use the 1998-99 Accord V6 Bulletin 99-085 procedure B to restore EGR flow". I have never been able to determine what this procedure is.
Armed with this information I returned to my dealer and asked for an adjustment. I also wrote Honda's home in CA and asked for a refund.
When I showed the service manager the "Service Engineering Survey" he offered to refund the $152 he collected the week before. I told him that wasn't good enough. I asked for at least $200 (I did get a new EGR valve). He finally agreed to refund the $152 and gave me a service credit of $48 to use when I wanted. I took this offer. I figured that was the best I could do.
Of course the service manager said if I had brought it to him when the light went on the 3rd time, he would have done it "no charge". This sort of flies in the face of the fact that when he did see the car a week later, he charged me $152 and refused to honor my warranty which had only expired 1000 miles before.
Since someone here posted the suggested method for cleaning it yourself, I am indebted. I will follow this procedure myself the next time the light comes on. I really think I'm probably good for another 10-12K.
By the way, ALLDATA now has the TSB's listed again (Sept.2001), but they are hardly any more informative than the stuff at NHTSA. They don't have any reference to the "Service Engineering Survey" I referred to.
Also, after the service manager and I settled the matter between us, Honda home office called me and said they had decided not to give me a refund. I simply said "OK" and hung up.
I think I was the first to post this problem quite some time back. I've never taken it to the dealer because of the general ineptitude of their Service Department.
I have my own temporary fix which has been described here, but it's lasting for shorter and shorter periods of time between the need to do it again. I'll try to get my hands on TSB 99-085 and see how it works on my vehicle. Regards!
FWIW the service manager told me it wasnt enough to clean the port on the EGR alone, but that there was another port "downstream" that had to be cleaned also. I presume its the port just below the EGR valve in the intake and removing and cleaning the intake should do the trick. Incidentally, are there any gasket replacments needed when you remove either the EGR valve or the intake manifold?
I'd appreciate it if and when you ever see TSB 99-085 if you will post the contents here.
If your solution is working less and less, you may actually need to replace the EGR valve. But be aware that my local mechanic charged me $166 for the part alone. It is the genuine Honda part and I'm sure he took a profit, but I bet your looking at $125 at least.
At the last scheduled maintenance, I asked again that the engine be checked because of increased gas consumption. After the maintenance, I was again told that nothing was wrong with the engine. Then I got the zinger: the service manager told me to use regular gas instead of the premium that I have been using. When I protested that the 2000 Odyssey was designed to produce 210 HP on premium, his response was that the 205 hp on regular gas was adequate enough. He also said that premium gas causes excessive carbon build up in the engine, requiring maintenance to remove it.
I have had no other problems with the van, other than a computer glitch where the van cut off once and all the indicators can on at the same time. I re started and that has never happened again. I have noticed slightly more resistance when accelerating, along with the increased city gas consumption. Highway mileage has remained at 22-24 mpg depending on cruising at 75 to 85 mph or below. Something is malfunctioning, either in the engine, computer or transmission; does anyone have a clue about this problem?
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On another topic, it's getting close to the two year anniversary and I want to extend my warranty. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find any of my bookmarks for dealers who discounted HondaCare. If anyone could re-post or e-mail me, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks
The van had the shimmy, the transmission replaced, squeeky rear windows, and wore through the firestones by 26,000 miles- I solved all of those alone but need input from others as I am tired and desperate! Thank you!
Does anyone know what Honda's toll free customer service number is? I think I may need it. We discovered two days after we picked up our new van a bump on the front bumper down near the drivers side wheel well, and a large paint chip on the underneath side of the bumper. Of course the salesperson is already setting us up saying that we must have hit something. No way we hit anything.
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hope it helps.
Hope all is well with you and yours.
SOUNDS MORE LIKE CLICKING/CREAKING OVER BUMPS ON BOTH SIDES,IT REALLY SOUNDED LIKE IT'S COMING FROM THE DASH, NOT TOO LOUD BUT REALLY ANNOYING.
ANYWAY, FIRST COUPLE OF TIMES DEALER TOLD ME IT'S
NORMAL,TOLD THEM I'M NOT A MECHANIC BUT I KNOW IT'S NOT NORMAL. I KEEP ON BUGGING THEM TO FIX IT,
FINALLY THE 4TH ATTEMPT THEY FIX IT.
used bolts and nuts temporarily. I test drove it with the service manager and that annoying clicking/ticking noise is gone.
They remove the bolts and did some welding on it.
I am really glad that it was fix, cause it really
is annoying.
Insist that it is not normal, keep bugging the dealer, that's what i did
Keep me posted, goodluck.
By the way, I have a 2000 LX with 21,000 miles and it seems fine for now. But I am seriously considering selling it because of a ton of little problems (terrible gas mileage, rattles, sliding door sticks, front brakes replaced already, etc.). The fit and finish simply isn't there.
IMHO, the logic is that you might inadverdently unlock the vehicle if you put the remote in a pocket/bag. Thus the van relocks itself.
With my EX I open one of the sliders and then mosey on out. With your LX, you better run!!
Any suggestions before I head for the dealer?
BTW, I had an ongoing battle with my dealer earlier over the "popping" paint on the hood of the car (silver). He said I was hitting rocks. I insisted it was a poor paint job. I am convinced, rightly or wrongly, that the problem was the result of the plastic wrapping bring put on the van before the paint had seasoned. Solution achieved, however--the result of being hit by some kid in a baseball cap to the tune of over $2800 in damage. His insurance took care of the new paint job.
Consumer Reports recommends staying away from the 99 Honda. Reliability being a big concern.
$23700 seems high to me. What does Edmunds say for this car? Seems like it ought to be under $20k. Mine is listed at about $18k wholesale I think. At $23700, I'd be looking at the '02 LX for a few more bucks.
Yesterday I got a call (2 weeks later) and was told they figured out that the wiring harness needs replacement. Apparently the fog lights and seat heaters share the same circuit and putting them together was too much. I don't know if this is a general problem or one having only to do with this dealer's installation.
One thing Honda need to do is include some information in the owners manual on fog lights. There is nothing in the book.
Again, has anyone had this problem? Is there any PERMANENT fix?