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I was not pleased to find out that I would need a whole new mirror assembly (GM does not sell separate parts for the side mirrors) but bit the bullet and bought one from an online distributor. Found it for about $235 which was $100 cheaper than the dealer. Anyone have any advice on how to remove the original and replace? I assume the plastic cover on the back of the cover needs to be removed in order to unbolt it and disconnect the electrical cable. Please let me know if you've done this before. Thanks.
I noticed there is a Borla dual exhaust system available. It looks cool, but I'm not ready to part with $800 for it. I don't think I need stainless steel either.
Most of the people here that have added K&N filters have not used the Aircharger as it's not highway legal in most states. They've used the Filterchargers instead and some have modded the resonator box to allow cold air in while shielding the intake from hot air. See some of tlauro's posts here. He has a nice website with pics of his Trailblazer mods.
Keep us posted on your results!
Anyone know if that's true? For the cost, it sure doesn't seem worth it either way.
No, they get adjusted in by the computer, not out.
I'd like to get one of those Jet or Hypertech chips but I bet they'd decrease gas mileage by richening up the mixture some.
Chips are for dips.
After we completed the selling transaction (and the new owner left the dealership), I had to decide which color Denali to place on order as a replacement for my Envoy. Before committing to anything, I noticed the abundance of 2003 Envoy's sitting on the dealer's lot and was immediately "touched" by the fact that mine was no longer in my possession. I thought to myself, "Gee.. I reaaally did like the Envoy (after the problematic history started to slow down), you do get a lot of content for the money, so maybe I really should consider ordering a 2003 Envoy SLT as opposed to the 2003 Yukon Denali? A vast majority of the first year bugs have been resolved, so what the heck!"
In order to convince myself, I took a semi-loaded 2003 Envoy SLT out on a 1 hour test drive to see if I could convince myself otherwise. During my test drive, I searched long and hard to find out what had been "removed" for the 2003 model year. In my findings, I noticed the following: new fixed-mast antenna (no window grid anymore), no glove compartment light, no under hood light, flimsy metal prop-rod anchor, and the ability to see clear to the asphalt through the engine compartment with the hood open (perhaps less engine insulation that the 2002 models?). Also, I noticed that the DVD system still had the same setup as the 2002 models (not being able to channel the sound through the cabin speakers). Even after considering what had been deleted for 2003, I thought, "Hmm.. well.. it still has most of the features that I like, but I do wish that would have retained the glove compartment light?" Just as I was nearing my final stretch of freeway before returning the vehicle, I reached behind my head to adjust the articulating headrest to the position that suited me best in my 2002. Guess what? NO MORE ARTICULATION! At this point, I had completely made up my mind because for long distance traveling, the headrest needed to be adjustable for my own comfort level. My first thought, "Boy.. out of all the ways to save a lousy buck!"
Not only had some of my "favorite" features had been removed 2003, but to even order another SLT (with the same level of equipment that my 02) would cost me almost $1,700 more! After that analysis, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which way to go. So after careful deliberation, I ended up ordering a 2003 Yukon Denali (with DVD Package that channels through the stereo) in Pewter with the two-tone gray interior.
I wanted to thank you all again for being such great helpers/contributors to this forum. I do think that had I not been aware of the "power of the internet," I would have never been able to gain access to such valuable forums (such as this one) and receive the help that I did from many of you by working together collaboratively to resolve/investigate many of the issues that affected us directly in one way or another.
I wish you all the best of luck with your triplets and will now be an active subscriber to the Yukon Denali forum.
Thanks Everyone!
IExplore2000@aol.com
For some reason everyone that doesn't want a Triplet hangs out here. Oh, even the people that are so happy that they got rid of their Triplet hang out hear.
I guess when you don't own a Bravada, Trailblazer, or an Envoy your life is dull. The only thing left to do in life is to hang out with us cool people!!!
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Doug
TSB 02-08-64-017; No Start, Service Engine Soon Lamp On, ABS Warning Lamp On, Air Bag Light On, DTCs Set, Various Door Electrical Functions Inoperative (Replace Driver and/or Passenger Door Harness and/or Repair Body Harness Connector); 2002 Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy, Oldsmobile Bravada built before April 2002
(let down!)
I think there is a message in that omission. Perhaps a mid-size, mid-priced SUV wasn't the right vehicle for these folks in the first place and dissin' their Triplet just lets them deal with their buyer's remorse.
I know that if I ultimately decide that my '03 Bravada is a poorly designed and built vehicle, I'll regret passing on a Ford Explorer Limited w/ same bells and whistles for same dollars. I won't be looking for a compact Japanese sedan or behemoth SUV that would barely fit into my garage.
I swear if we hear anything more about that Denali, I scream at my monitor. To each his own, but frankly those GMC Yukons have a snout only a Ford Excursion could love. If I had that kind of money to spend (purchase, insurance, gas, and upkeep) and a bigger garage, I'd be looking at a Cadillac Escalade. They're the hot seller with the well to do in the Metro Denver area.
However, it was interesting to hear about the little things that changed from '02 to '03. I waited for the '03s based on the TSBs, common complaints in this forum, and the piston slap issue that is on over 20 web sites. I think waiting for an '03 was still the safer route, given my first year experiences with a Chrysler 300M.
But, it is a bit of a downer to see GM skimp on under hood lighting and articulated head rests. It's bad enough that they don't have pneumatic lifts for the hood, but really, my 1991 S-10 Blazer had a light under the hood. The antenna may be a move for the better in the long run, unless you park in "bad" neighborhoods. Glovebox lights I can take or leave. The Bravada already has extensive interior lighting.
So the rear wheel HP is 71% of crankshaft HP.
I've seen quarter mile times of 15.8. That's pretty good for 4600 lbs of vehicle.
Check this out:
http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/driving/articles/44824/article.html
What RPM did you test your project Enovy, what gear was used and was the 193HP adjusted to sealevel or at what altitude?
Just curious if there might have been other factors in the gap in figures. We also need to consider that the 270 (now 275 for 03) is all the way up at 6000RPM and not anywhere near idle.
BTW: Did the Borla exhaust & intake affect the low end any or just the mid-upper end? I'd sure like to see the curves before and after, before considering the $800 exhause modification. (I'd like to see a bit more down low up to around 2500-3000 personally...to help the off the line when the air is on - 3000 on up is already quite good).
Thanks,
Ray
I partially agree, but 900RPM is barely off idle.
Also, 1200 or 1500 is below the stall speed of the torque convertor. Things start at 2000RPM or
so.
I fully understand the benefits of low end torque, but this isn't a diesel. The high end does get used on highway entrance ramps and passing situtions. It's already got a good high end, but why not improve it more?
Umm.. with the exception of ONE individual on this board, I have YET to hear of anyone mention that they are getting rid of their triplet because they cannot afford it (or at least hyping up the numerous problems as a reason to chose a "lesser" vehicle).
Personally (as I've mentioned previously), I do (or did)like my Envoy.. Never ever mentioned that I HATED it because I didn't. As far as I'm concerned, a good friend is someone who will never let you down and my Envoy never left me stranded. No complaints there. But on the other side, my personal experiences with the "small/medium" issues at hand extend far beyond the time that I have allotted to spend making trips back and forth to any dealership for service. Perhaps you are one of those individuals who can drive a car into the ground and never give a care in the world about the problems that you may encounter, but for me.. that's not an option. And for my $38K, I have better things to do like seek out a consumer report rated "Best Buy or Recommended" vehicle that will spend a considerable less amount of time in any service department.
Believe me, I do think that as compared to the competition, you do get a lot of BANG for your buck with the triplets! The decision for me to upgrade to a DENALI (yes... please scream at your monitor now since this seems to be a direct reflection of your personality perhaps?)as opposed to considering a 2003 Envoy was VERY hard, but I just think that the "BIG BEHEMOTH" is actually not that big at all and very attractive to me.. maybe not to you, but to me.. As far as Cadillac is concerned, not worth the extra $7k for nicer lights and more wood... and various publications highly recommend the Denali over the Escalade since they are essentially the same vehicle.
All in all, this is a public forum for many to share their criticizms, praises, etc. I think that the information posted here (whether good or bad) has directly impacted those subscribed in more ways than one! Believe me, I think that this is a GREAT tool for people to use and I often spread the word to friends and family about this valuable FREE tool!
In my opinion, KEEP POSTING GUYS/GALS!
Thanks!
IExplore2000@aol.com
If I can tie it to the roof I can get it home that way, otherwise it seems that I will be renting the Home Depot truck again.
Thanks
Mark
http://www.thebetterprice.com/Chevy_Trucks/trailblazer/specs.htm
>http://www.thebetterprice.com/Chevy_Trucks/trailb>lazer/specs.htm
Thanks, I couldn't find that anywhere for some reason.
Mark
Not in other 4L60-E equipped vehicles I have been in. All depends on how GM sets up the PCM computer to make it shift. I don't think the high shift points are a characteristic of the transmission.
Steve, Host
As far as gettin rid of the swirls, depending on how severe, a good polish or swirl remover should do the trick. If they're light, try a less abrasive polish, and if still there, try something like Meguiar's Dual Action Polish or 3M SMR (probably the 3M first). This can be done by hand and a lot of work if not all that bad, but is much more effective when with machine. A quality orbital buffer is very nice to use, and a rotary buffer may also be used by a very experienced detailer to remove the swirls without causing more harm. I've never heard of corn starch...
Try using a quality sealant/wax too. Zaino, Klasse, Platinum, Blackfire, and a few others are good synthetics, and there are some good waxes too. It's always good to keep your car protected and beading water at all times.
Hope this helps!
I don't know. I was speculating, but the fact remains that there is a big change in gear ratio from 1st to 2nd - 3.06 to 1.63 I believe. In fact, it's the widest ratio 4 speed automatic out there.
I don't have a problem with the shift point, as I don't view 2500 - 2800 as a very high RPM for this engine. I'll pay more attention and see what mine shifts at now that I'm curious.
"When I ordered my Envoy in May of 2001, I was not happy that the professional towing package required the 4.10 rear axle."
192 rear wheel h.p is not bad. We have been thru this before, but a 30-35% loss from rated h.p. is common due to drivetrain losses of the tranny, transfer case and rear end.
Are the gear ratios the same for all 4L60E's?
Those looking for a V-8 should chose wisely. Car and Driver did 0-60 in 7.9 seconds in their 4.2L TB, while their V-8 TB EXT did it in 8.7. I'm sure the added weight of the EXT accounted for most of this difference, but don't buy an EXT to get the V-8 if you don't need it. They also got a whopping 13 mpg! I didn't realize the EXT is actually 9 inches long than the full size Tahoe.
GAM
thanks
2002 LS 22,000 MILES
Just another mindless glitch brought to you by GM. Like wandering mirrors and strange radio-button behaviour.
As for the 0-60 times, those tend to vary a decent amount between magazines and aren't the final word. Also, they never say what gear ratio they used. Still, I wouldn't get an EXT just for the V-8. If you really need to haul off the line wait until the Buick Raineer comes out. It'll be midsize but have a V-8 available.
All 4L60E's have the same gear set.
http://www.gm.com/automotive/gmpowertrain/transmissions/hydra/apps/4l60.htm
"...It's hard to have both because what is good for high end breathing is the opposite of what's good for the low end."
More cubic inches always helps both torque and power, all other factors being the same. Bore and stroke, bore and stroke, bore and stroke.
Just got back from the Las Vegas SEMA show and found the TB and Tahoe SS's very interesting. I really like the look without the roof rack, I wish we could have ordered that way. The TB interior is almost exactly the same except a little more dressed up. Low profile tires with 17" wheels (I think, I looked at so many wheels they all started to look the same). Much lower to the ground. Some spoiler effect to the upper plastic above the hatch door, I could take that or leave it.
If it weren't for fuel economy we'd all have huge engines with tons of torque and power.
"There's no replacement for displacement!"
:-)
repeat the mantra:
"BORE, STROKE, BORE, STROKE, BORE, STROKE, ..."
What is this, a low rider, or an SUV?
If you want a car, just buy a car!
Thanks for anyones help.
Ken