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My 02 bravada lemon law took less than 90 days for a full buyback.
I did have a good attorny though from the lemonlaw web site.
I not here to bash the TB either. I love everything about it. I definitely wouldn't mind trading it in for an 03.
Do you think it's worth seeing if there's something I could work out with the dealer before seeking legal action? I'm afraid that as soon as I mention I'm having problems with mine, they'll give me next to nothing for trade in.
GM sweetens financing for mid-size SUVs (Yahoo news)
Steve, Host
I have a '03 TB EXT w/ Leather Plus package. The Driver Msg center tells you when any door or the rear gate is ajar. I don't know about vehicles without the "DIC". Also note there is a dash light for "gate ajar" If I forget to close the back window tightly, both the dash light and DIC indicate.
*2. the 2nd row floor mats do not have the *coverage and they are moving around too. Can *anyone recommend a better floor mats?
Checkout the GM accessories catalog. They have other mat options.
* 3. reclining 2nd row seat please!
My second row seats recline slightly. While sitting in the seat, click the seat folding lever forward and push back on the seat. It will recline slightly (about 15 degrees). I do think this could have been better. The 3rd row doesn't recline at all.
FYI - I've had the driveshaft and rear springs replaced and vibration was slightly reduced, but still exists. Still waiting for GM to come up with a real fix........
#10310 - 0% 5 yr. financing has been avail. since Aug. 2002.
#10312 - Use of Mobil 1, if anything, should result in better gas mileage. Ck. your air filter and tire air pressure. Have you changed brand of gas used?
As a matter of fact I do. I had the OEM molded mud guards installed at delivery. Interesting theory. Did you report the vibration to the dealer under warranty? The more people report, the more action GMC will give towards resolving it.
So - I guess there may be light at the end of the tunnel! I'll let everyone know what they come up with when I pick it up tonight.
For the wind noise... does it only happen during heavy crosswinds or while you're driving over 65mph or is it something constant?
Has anyone with the ECAS air suspension experienced the vibration? I know I have a Bravada with the ECAS and I don't get any sort of vibration in that speed range.
For some reason the 0%/5 years went away for the SWB triplets in January. It was still available on the EXT/XL.
He said this is the first Envoy they have seen with this complaint.
The techs/service advisors always say "this is the first <insert car name here> that we have seen with this complaint". I think they are trained to do so.
2 months with my '03 Envoy XL SLT and no defects so far. Have been very happy with the build quality and fit & finish. Gas mileage is surprisingly good too. I'm averaging around 17.5 mpg, and on the highway I get around 22 mpg.
I noticed that I am due for a bunch of software revisions from the GM Calibration info web site. Some of them are for transmission shift points and the like. I wonder how big an impact these have on mileage? Anybody out there get there software flashed and notice an improvement?
Would love to know the wind noise and vibrating gas pedal fixes. I also have an on and off (every 2 seconds) vibration/rumble in the back end when I'm pulling my jetski trailer. They blame it on the trailer tires. I will try pulling someone elses trailer to see if I get the same rumble.
I noticed that I am due for a bunch of software revisions from the GM Calibration info web site. Some of them are for transmission shift points and the like. I wonder how big an impact these have on mileage? Anybody out there get there software flashed and notice an improvement?
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-02-25-crash-tests_x.htm
To monstersinc RE- TBLZ EXT 2nd row floor mats and reclining 2nd row seat: I will try your trick and see if I can get that 15 degrees. I don't have the DIC so no warning lights for the side doors(ajar). There is a gate ajar icon on the dash though. Thanks!
It's worse than almost any vehicle I have owned.
My Outback was quiet as a tomb in comparison.
GAM
I read the usatoday article mentioned above. It included the quote "The problem with crash tests, says Augenstein, who studies crashes with NHTSA and automaker funding, is that they are designed see how people inside the vehicle being tested are protected." Must be nice to get someone to pay you to make that kind of inane comment.
during that time we have had the following problems.I am curios if any other owners have had any similar problems.
1. Blown engine coil(stranded us 500 miles from home for 4 days on our vacation)
2. Mysterious suspension squeak when driven over pot holes. ( at 10k it just went away)
3. Gas mileage which started out at 20mpg highway, 16 city when new and now is at 16 highway, 11-12 city.
4. Loose shift handle (fixed after two attempts)
5. Defective driver's power seat switch which sticks and just keeps going when you adjust it.(pushed me into the windshield when I was cruising @65mph)
6. 4WD system that has a mind of its's own switching in and out of 2WD,AWD and 4WD. ( After two attempts and two parts changes , I think it may be fixed)I am glad because this almost caused me 2 accidents.
7.The panels which hold the power window switches stick out from the door armrest causing it to "pop up" when it is rubbed against. (this has been filed down ,then replaced,during 2 dealer trips but still has very poor fit and finish and still has the same problem)
8. 3 bolts were half screwed in, on the inside front fender wells. They actually stuck out over 1/2 an inch)
9. The passenger seatbelt recoil unit has no give or play, IT just locks up. once you buckle up it is impossible to even reach for your sunglasses if they are on the dash.
10.the hood is badly misaligned
11.On my last trip while driving due west for 200 miles, my compass insisted I was going north or south, but never west. Seems like it works now?
12. All the interior door handles had sharp mold marks which were pronounced enough to cut your hand. (the dealer sanded them down)
13. The radio heats up after 2 -3 hours use to where the CD's are VERY HOT, almost burning to handle.THe face of the radio actually got to almost a skin burning temp.
All of this is too bad because it drives great. But I have to say my 97 subberban never had the issues this new trailblazer has and that the general quality control on my 99 Audi and 98VW agree light years ahead of GM.At $34,000 cost I was and still am expecting more. I am meeting with the District Chevy guy in 10 days and will post what they are willing to do for me.
check them out on my site.
http://www.trailblazer.homestead.com/
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/brandsmall/travel-auto---truck-access- ories-mirrors.html
I am considering getting it.
That's funny, mine only does that when I'm playing James Brown. :-)
First, locate the baffles in the front quarter panels. They're black rubber/foam and can be seen if you look into the fender with the driver/passenger door open. The seal around them is loose. Either epoxy them or duct tape them or both from the inside of the fender. Looks won't be important, since you won't be able to see it at all anyway.
Second, if you get the wind gusting noise in heavy crosswinds where air pierces into the cabin. Check your weatherstripping and make sure it's tight against the metal all the way around. If there's a good fit, and it still makes the noise, then this should solve your problem: Loosen the 2 bolts in the door striker with a T-30 Torx bit. Apply locktite (can be bought at any auto parts store) to the bolts, and with one hand move the striker toward the inside of the vehicle as far as it will go (it has about 2-3mm of play in it). Hold it in place while you tighten the bolts with the other hand. Torque specification is 18lbs/ft.
Steve, Host
BTW - the dealer "supposedly" fixed the wind noise in my Enovy yesterday. They told me they realigned the door and fixed the weather striping - but only on the drivers side. To be honest - I don't notice a difference, its still loud!
GAM
Also found another one that might be able to do something:
http://www.capperautocenter.com/
This is in Iowa. I purchased a DC warranty for my wife's Jeep from chryslerwarranty.com which is also in Iowa...they have 'affiliates' GM Warranty Central, Ford Warranty Central and Toyotawarranty.com links on their page. I got my paperwork in about 2 weeks. Biggest savings was 8.5% Tenn sales tax...discounted price was maybe $150 less than that quoted as list on the DC site.
The crash test have just become the latest slant on getting rid of SUVs. The PC approach will be to modify the SUVs, as noted. When the added weight drops gas mileage lower still, they expect the conclusion to be obvious.
They won't pursue to logical alternative to improve the crash survive ability of some of the "pop-cans" on the road because that will lower their gas mileage and there goes any chance of raising CAFE standards again. Like the space shuttle external tank foam, PC comes first, safety second.
Oddly, none of the NHTSA coverage noted that the TrailBlazer scored only Marginal on the Insurance Institute test. So if GM was designing for that test, they didn't do very well. But, despite what CR says, that test may be representative of typical auto accidents, but it isn't representative of typical fatal auto accidents. Head-ons and broad-sides are where the fatalities come from. Good thing the triplets scored 5 Stars there.