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You can install yourself or have a shop do it...
They also sell headlight protection, altho with lexan lenses, it's probably not necessary.
I went with a THULE RacNLock that slips right into the receiver hitch... they also make a "SpaceStation" carrier that allows more versatility for other accessories as well.
The nice thing about this particular rack is that it can pivot out AWAY from the car with the bikes still mounted, allowing you to access the tailgate contents without removing the bikes first!
Check out www.thule.com
Hopefully their dignosis is correct and when the part arrives this will fix the problem.
Wife loves the vehicle otherwise.
brad
What concerns me about the control is every other control in the Bravada shows the last setting when you push the button. Hence my concern when I push the button and it always says "off".
-- thx
My problems:
1) Sluggish pickup with 3.73 gear ratio...but the 4.10 is available..anyone have it? Opinions?
2) Back/trunk side compartments...absolutely cheesy...two "snap" swivels/clamps. I could have made a better one by hand. Would have been nice to have "doors" there for the compartments...rather than entirely detachable "plates" (which were a flimsy plastic at best)
3) Folding down the rear seats...they couldn't go all the way down unless the front seat(s) were forward a certain distance.
4) Leather...felt way too firm...and the reason why I've wanted cloth...but the LTZ's dont come with cloth...so I am considering an LT just to get the cloth and will put aftermarket tires on it instead. Does the leather soften up after time???
Well there are a ton of positives to the TB...and of course they are why I want to get one!
Let me know what you all think about my negatives posted above.
Thanks
mmateyak
Thanks for the information regarding the bike rack and the mud flaps. I checked out the Thule site and I think that this rack will fit my needs nicely. As far as the mud flaps, I ordered two pair today from a local chevy dealership. they said that they are custom fitted for the TB. However, they quoted me a price of 29 per pair. I am wondering what the difference will be in the product due to the fact that you paid 19 dollars. I*ll have to wait until they arrive to evaluate their quality and final look. thanks again. Also, has anyone out there added any graphics or stripping to their vehicle. How did it turn out.
http://www.gearonthego.com/
Thanks, Immoe
As we all know, an engine loves to breath in cooler air, which is why a car seems to pull harder on those cool mornings -- and this is why the aftermarket companies make them for popular cars and trucks. Unfortunately, they've not started on the GM Trio yet...
We took a look under the hood and found that the air intake consists of a small funnel-shaped "horn" behind the passenger headlight, that leads into the airbox. To "enhance" the availablity of cooler outside air, we routed a section of 2.5-inch shop vac hose from a small opening in the lower front air dam, up behind the passenger headlight and terminated the hose at the opening of the air intake. (thanks to GM for making the headlights so easy to pull out -- two pull tabs and you're in business) To increase the amount of air intake, a rectangular shop vac hose attachement can be inverted and placed in the air dam and attached to the hose to act as an "air scoop".
Ironically the shop vac hose diameter matches that of the air intake, so theoretically you could place the hose directly into the intake, but I preferred to allow the engine to breath normally at lower speeds, rather than forcing it to breath only thru the hose.
Granted, a 2.5 inch diameter hose isn't a lot of surface area, but it DOES draw more cooler air from outside of the engine compartment and surprisingly makes an improvement in performance. (more noticible on a hot day) Until a commercial cold air kit is available, this cheap tweak works well and it's basically invisible unless you look closely at the air dam and look for the hose.
Placing small vent holes in the shop vac hose at strategic locations to allow water to drain that might be sucked in, and installing a screen of some type to keep out bugs/leaves is also advised.
Total Cost:
$15 for shop vac hose (enough for 2 cars)
$5 for rectangular vacuum attachment (optional)
Total Installation Time: 15 mins depending on how good you are are routing the hose from the front to the intake.
Tools Required: None - everything is held in place by friction -- zip ties are optional if you're paranoid.
K&N AIR FILTERS:
For those wanting to install a K&N air filter to allow the vehicle to breath even better, I contacted them and they don't expect one to be released for the 2002 GM Trio until around October.
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When it downloads, look to the left side of the page where it says "Download Truck Tracks." Click on that.
www.toyota.com
www.honda.com
www.mercedesbenz.com
www.bmw.com
www.mitsubishi.com
www.edmunds.com
for other alternative SUV
Enjoy the open road of America.
BUY OLDSMOBILE-Until GM stop making them.
Thanks....
Are you disgruntled ex-employee?
Toyota- The Sequoia was very nice, and very expensive. Starting at $40,000 and up, with little or no discount off MSRP, it was way out of my budget. The Highlander, the cheap version of the Lexus RX-300, is a joke. While the RX-300 is plush, the Highlander's interior is pedestrian. Sitting on the backseat was like sitting on fabric-covered cardboard. No Sale!!
Lexus-Loved the RX-300, hated the price tag. Like the Sequoia, MSRP started at $38,000 and went up from there, with little discount off of sticker. Seriously considered buying a RX-300, but it was out of my price range.
Honda-Has no SUV, FAThead. Used to have the Passport, which was a rebadged Isusu Rodeo (which, by the way, is majority owned by GM; humm...)
Acura-Again, the MDX was very nice, and way out of my price range. Does anybody see a pattern here with expensive Japanese SUVs?
MB-All I can say about the interior of the M-320 is cheesy. Probably could have afforded this one, but it did not impress my wife and me in the least.
BMW-Again, a nice SUV that was WAY out of my price range. Over $40K for a six-cylinder, $50K for a V8.
Mitsubishi-The Montero FAILED Consumer Reports roll-over test. Not that I put much stock into anything CR says, but the best thing Mitsubishi ever built was the Zero (and that was continually bested by American-made products).
Explorer-Only one thing wrong with this truck-that blue oval on the front with the letters
F-O-R-D. For those that don't know, FORD is actually the Klingon word for crap. Would you trust a car company that refuses to admit that their poorly engineered SUV has killed almost 200 people. Sure, those Firestone tires blew out, but Explorers were not the only vehicles they were installed on. When they blew out on other vehicles, you just pull over to the side of the road and change a flat. When they blow out on an Explorer, it causes the truck to rollover and you die. But, according to FORD, it is all Firestone's fault. WRONG!! There is no way in Hell I would even consider buying a new Explorer from this low-life company.
So, FAThead, we come back to GM. When we ordered our new Bravada, I got it for $200 under invoice, plus another $1500 off for my Olds loyalty rebate (we have a 1998 Intigue). I could not touch one of those over-priced foreign SUVs for the price of the Bravada. And, as a bonus, I got a 5 year/60,000 bumper-to-bumper warranty. So, if I have any problems with it "down the road", I'm covered, and I'm not worried about it.
BTW, I just purchased a 2001 Chevy Silverado LS extended cab pickup (my fifth Chevy truck; four extended cabs and a Suburban). I seriously considered a Toyota Tundra access cab, but there was no contest as far as bang-for-the-buck. I liked the way the Tundra looked and drove, but the Chevy cost much less. My Chevy stickered for just over $29,000, and it is loaded except for leather seats. A comparably equipped Toyota Tundra Limited stickered for $31,000-$32,000, and I guarantee you won't find a Toyota dealer who will give you $5000 off sticker on a truck like my Chevy dealer did. However, the clincher was the rear seat area of the Tundra was much smaller than the Chevy, and I have to have a rear seat occasionally for my kids.
So, in conclusion, FAThead, a lot of people love our GM vehicles. I have had nothing but good luck with 4 trucks, 1 Suburban, 1 Buick Regal, and 1 Olds Intrigue. Sure, some of them have been back to the dealer for minor warranty items, but never anything major. And I am confident that the new Bravada will give me no problems either. if it does, it will be covered under warranty for a long time, so I'm not worried. Now, please go crawl back in your hole.
Steve
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I'll be the first to admit that some things the General does peeves the heck out of me, but most of these have to do with stupid management decisions because GM's heirarchy is overrun with stodgy old geezeers. Sometimes I think GM's top management is living in 1901 and not 2001, and they are SLOW to react to current market conditions (that is why they are continuing to lose market share to Ford and Japan). Of course, GM did decide to be "progressive" and build the Pontiac Aztec ("quite possibly the ugliest vehicle on the planet"), but that is another thread.
I put in a lot of effort into shopping for my wife's new SUV, and the Bravada was the best vehicle for the money. She can't wait to get her hands on it. *Build Date: 7-30-01
As I posted previously, we loved the Lexus RX-300, but I could not see paying that much for a vehicle. I would rather pay $4000-$5000 less for a vehicle (MSRP) than have to pay for the dealer's big-screen TV, plush leather couch and chairs, cappucino bar, etc. You don't think that those Lexus extras are free, do you? No, you pay for them when you buy their vehicles.
If something goes wrong with the Bravada, I'm not planning on living at the dealership waiting for it to get fixed. I'll take the shuttle back home or get them to drive me to work, and if it has to stay overnight for service, we get something to drive.
Anyway, just a note to FAThead that we are not lemmings jumping off a cliff just because almighty General Motors has us brainwashed. Some of us vehicle buyers actually can think for ourselves, and when we do, buying GM makes good economical sense. The lemmings are the people buying Explorers just because everybody else has one!
I' ve got a black Envoy SLT 4WD, rear locking diff, heated leather seats, polished wheels. Took delivery in mid-May, so the front end TSB had already been done. Price was $32,200 with the GM supplier discount. I pay cash when I buy, so I can't say what the lease terms would have been.
Problems: Only one very minor one. The center console was loose and squeaking. The dealer pretended to fix it ("they're all like that"). I fixed it myself by disassembling the console, putting felt where things rubbed together, and putting loctite on the screws when I put it back together. Squeaking is gone. Took all of twenty minutes and was easier than arguing with the service manager. Aside from that, everything else seems to be screwed together properly. This is the first thing that I have ever bought from GM, and I was more than a little worried about how good or bad the quality would be. (My mother's Chevy Celebrity was a sad, sorry excuse for a car) I've been very pleasantly surprised by how good my Envoy has been so far. Hope I can still say that at 50,000 miles.
This is a great vehicle for a tall person (I'm 6'4"). There's plenty of leg, elbow and headroom for the driver, and the driver's seat is almost perfect. The front doors are long, so it is easy to get in and out, and the b-pillar doesn't intefere with visibility. The rear hatch opens high enough to clear my head and the load floor is just the right height for me. Thank you GM.
The engine and drive train is surprisingly smooth. I have no complaints about the power. The transmission shifts smoothly and predictably. The gas mileage is a lot better than I expected: for June, I averaged 18.2 mpg; for July so far it is 19.4 mpg. (80% highway, both months) It used a quart of oil in the first 1,500 miles. At that point, I did the first oil change (Pennzoil 5W-30, AC-Delco PF59 filter). There has been no further oil consumption.
The overall vehicle seems very quiet, solid, with a good, smooth ride, and no shakes or rattles. It seems very nimble for a two ton plus vehicle. The steering would benefit from more on-center feel, but is otherwise quite precise. It tracks very well on the highway. I haven't had the problem with wind noise that others have mentioned. (I followed the manual's instructions for placing the roof racks. Maybe that helped.) There's plenty of room for my requirements for carrying people (three of us plus the cat) and stuff.
Some pleasant surprises:
-The instrument panel and switch lighting is very well done.
-It's very easy to fold down the rear seats compared to my wife's Jeep Grand Cherokee.
-The oil filter and drain plug are accessable. (My last car was a Lincoln Mark VIII - bad filter location)
Basically, I'm *very* happy with this truck. I get the feeling that the people who designed it and built it were really paying attention to what they were doing. But I'm also an engineer and I can't help having a few suggestions for the "next release".....
Notes to GM for future improvements:
- If you could make the lumbar support adjust a little higher, and get a little smaller, the driver's seat would go from being almost perfect, to perfect.
- Did you really need to use so many *different* textures of imitation armadillo hide on the interior plastic bits? It makes the interior look a little cheap. Please check out the Acura MDX interior when you decide to do the "Envoy Denali"
- There's a hands-free phone setup here that I can't *use*! It would be nice if I could use the Onstar hands-free phone equipment with *my* cellular phone. Onstar wants nearly triple what I pay for a minute of cellular. Do they really think I'm dumb enough to pay that??
I hope this helps....
Regards,
Dennis
These are the factory running boards for 2002 Envoy.
Part nos. are Step 1 ea.15044601 list $380.00
Step 1 ea.15044602 list $380.00
bolt 1 ea.11518482 list $3.33
If there is a one part number kit available, I'm not aware of it.
Was told that no running boards were available on the Bravada even though they were pictured in the brochure. "Brochures are printed way before we actually get/know the cars." OK. The dealer, maybe afraid of losing a sale? said they would install an Envoy running board on the Bravada....under carriage configuration, etc. was very similar on both cars. Cost? Less than $200, installed. Either I'm being sold a bill of goods or you are. Take care.
as follows:
Front: Part #3200
2nd Seat: Part #6200
Cargo (behind 2nd seat) Part #2200_
See: http://www.huskyliner.com/gmcapps.html
(although you'll probably find much better pricing elsewhere online from one of the many accessory shops out there)
btw, you also have 30 minutes to edit your posts. Look for the Edit button.
Steve
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I'm thinking along the lines of a pre-leased/pre-owned SUV...probably 2-3 yrs old (so 1998-2001 models). What do you guys think are some good models for those years?
I know Chevy resale prices are high...so I've ruled out Tahoes because of that. Explorers on the other hand...have a lower resale value...but obviously have their fair share of problems.
Other options...Jeep Cherokees/Grands are fair prices...but again...not up to the standards some desire.
I'm basically looking for a dependable vehicle, 2-3 yrs old...that I can use afield (4x4) for hiking, hunting, fishing, camping, snowboarding, etc...and also to commute to work each day (about 30-40 miles each day total).
Some details:
1)Driving distance to work (total per day): 30-40 miles
2) NEED 4WD!
3) Suggestions on models...1998-2001?
4) Not full size SUV (i.e. Suburban, Expedition-like, etc)
5) Not small size SUV (i.e. KIA, Escape-like, Tracker, etc)
6) What should I look to be spending? I'm guessing around $15,000-20,000?
Suggestions and/or advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks all!
The Husky liners I bought were from Central 4 Wheel Drive Inc. Prices were $51.95, $51.95 and 72.84, for front, rear and cargo. Shipping was 34.00 for a grand total of 210.74. They were the cheapest I could find on the internet and locally. They are form fitted for my Envoy and fit well. They don't look as nice as the carpet floor mats but with two kids the carpet ones wouldn't look too great for long anyway.
Did anyone else get the recall call letter on the center console. I just received it.
My dealer is replacing the front passenger door window on my Envoy. When it goes up and down it has something inside the door that scratches the glass. I have a long cut and several chips on the center on the inside of the window. Is anyone else having this problem?