Subaru Impreza WRX

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  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    They have always used S.T.I. (or STI) in sentences/words, but the logo looks like "STi" (with a big "i"). It's just a logo, but doesn't imply anything.

    Here's the official STI website, where you can see both the words and the logo used side by side:

    http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/e/index.html

    Craig
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    SoA is a little out of touch in this regard, in fact I'm not sure why they call the tuning parts arm SPT. It should have been STI as well.

    -juice
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    The latest issue of the Drive Performance has an article noting that SOA is now using "STI" all-caps, but they mix STI and STi throughout the rest of the magazine! And of course the logo still has the little "i". In other words, nothing has changed!

    CRaig
  • dshibbdshibb Member Posts: 4
    Hey I'm new here and on Monday I am picking up a 2002 WRX with 65k on it. The car has extended gold warranty on it and I was wondering what mods would be best for performance in everything from horsepower to gas mileage. Basically what would you do? But it can't affect the warrantee on the car if I do. I read some of the previous stuff saying I shouldn't get bovs or cai, but the ideas they said never addressed whether they would affect the warrantee or not. Thank you

    Jonathan
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Welcome!

    It sort of depends on your dealer and what they "tolerate", but if there is ever a warranty claim and they determine, or just suspect, that your mods were a cause, then it would probably be a hassle.

    I think you're better off with the factory bov, which mixes discharge back in with intake air. If you go with an aftermarket "atmospheric" bov for the cool whoosh sound, your engine is going to run rich which won't help power or economy!

    And a CAI is pretty much a waste on a turbo-charged and intercooled engine. The resulting temp rise through the turbo and temp drop through the intercooler will dwarf any miniscule effect of a CAI. On top of that, you'd be messing with the intake resonator which tunes the standing wave pattern in the intake. Dyno data has shown that you can actually lose power by messing with the standard intake system.

    My opinions -- best performance mods on an 02 WRX would be 17" wheels and tires; you get a lot of bang for the buck there and they look good too. The factory short-throw shifter is nice too, if your car doesn't already have it. And of course upgrading the nut behind the steering wheel is the best thing you can do ;-)

    When I had my 03 WRX, I installed a Prodrive axleback exhaust, and it sounded awesome. That would be a nice mod to consider as well.

    CRaig
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That's the best bang-for-the-buck, and you don't void any warranties. Plus the "mods" transfer to any future car you own.

    Try a FATT (Friday at the Track) event for starters.

    -juice
  • dshibbdshibb Member Posts: 4
    Well I can't get a "ecu reflash, upgrade the uppipe, or upgrade the intercooler piping" without messing with the wauranteee
  • andmoonandmoon Member Posts: 320
    rumor has it that refalsh is not detectable.
  • bruticusbruticus Member Posts: 229
    Just a quick interruption from me. Love my WRX. 56500 miles in 30 months (which is 1/12 my age...heh) on the OEM RE92s, which finally need to be replaced (I drive extremely conservatively); I'm getting HTRs next weekend, and will probably get the 60K service at same time (AZP in Kenilworth NJ, great show!)

    DjB
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Tell mike I said hi.

    My b-day is tomorrow. :)

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Happy B'Day juice! You don't look a day over 60! Whoops that's me, not you...

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Is 37 too old for a WRX? Maybe I should join the Buick threads now. ;)

    -juice
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    You're only as old as you think you are.
    I'm forty-six and am enjoying my WRX like an eighteen year old :)

    -Dave
  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    Got over 50K from those Bridgestones, huh :surprise: ? Wow. And I thought I was doing well with 35K (3/32" left as mesasured by the dealer). Last few months were kinda scary on rainy days especially, though. I never liked those tires, nobody does it seems. So why are they so expensive on the market? Got new BFGoodrich Traction T/A, should be good until the next car (60K warranty!).

    2018 430i Gran Coupe

  • satchmosatchmo Member Posts: 34
    Has anyone test-driven the latest WRX? How does the 2.5 engine affect performance & handling?
  • lilbluewgn02lilbluewgn02 Member Posts: 1,089
    to all you crazy folk.....
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I driven a couple of them. Yes, the low-end power makes it much easier to drive fast. It's a huge improvement in usable power.

    Bob
  • satchmosatchmo Member Posts: 34
    Thanks, Bob. I appreciate your prompt input. By the way, did you notice any difference in the handling or steering? I'm wondering what effect the (presumably) heavier engine has on handling or steering. For instance, did you notice a greater tendency to understeer in hard corners?
  • searcherboysearcherboy Member Posts: 32
    Curious to know if any WRX owners - or drivers of other 2.5T-equipped Subes - are using regular gasoline instead of premium. All of the material I have seen relating to the WRX and other models using the 2.5T engine say premium is "recommended", not "required". I take this to mean regular gas can be used, though the engine will develop somewhat less power.

    Any commentary will be much appreciated.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Personally, I would consider premium a requirement on a turbo engine or a normally aspirated engine with a high compression ratio.

    Craig
  • barriostkdbarriostkd Member Posts: 71
    Hi Guys,

    I had a 22mm Perrin Rear Sway Bar and Whiteline endlinks installed on my '04 WRX sedan back in May. Handling noticeably improved w/ the upgrade, but the ride became noisy when going over speed bumps or road imperfections. Lately it's become even noisier w/ a lot of squeaky sounds even when I turn into my driveway or going over bumps at 5mph.

    I've never had aftermarket sway bars prior to this, so I was wondering if this is normal. Or is this something I need to get checked. Anybody had any similar experience w/ aftermarket sway bars?

    Thanks!

    James B.
  • philwang66philwang66 Member Posts: 61
    James,

    You may want to re-apply liberal amounts of grease on the bushings and mount points of the RSB.

    Good luck,
    Phil
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    If you get squeaking or groaning noises that are worse in cold weather, then the bushings need to be lubed. Usually white lithuim grease is the preferred lube.

    Craig
  • barriostkdbarriostkd Member Posts: 71
    Thanks for the input. But I'm wondering how come I never encountered this problem w/ the stock sway bar? I never bothered applying any kind of grease or lubricant on the stock bushings, but never experienced having this extra noise.

    James B.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    I'm sure it just means the stock setup was properly lubed when it was installed. Normally this is not a maintenance item.

    Craig
  • beanboybeanboy Member Posts: 442
    So says official Subaru documentation. 91 for H6 is recommended.

    -B
  • andmoonandmoon Member Posts: 320
    I think softer rubber bushings don't make noise (usually) while the harder urethane bushings do. Some even come w/ zerk fittings.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Last winter I had the experience of having turbos fail to start in the cold due to regular gas, those that had premium ran fine. Use 91 octane, you'll do better in fuel economy anyway.
  • barriostkdbarriostkd Member Posts: 71
    Thanks for the input & suggestions. I brought it back to the shop where I had the sway bars installed and they fixed the problem. Basically, what they did is wrap teflon on the area where the bushings were squeaking. They said that was better than applying grease because teflon doesn't breakdown like grease.

    JB
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    Where can one get the teflon used?

    -Dave
  • andmoonandmoon Member Posts: 320
    I tried this w/ a bmw...didn't last too long. Graphite lube (mercedes benz used to use this for multiple things) seem to last the longest but nothing short of a zerk fitting (has it's own issues) cured the sqeeking totally.
    It is interesting that not all urethane joints squeek.
  • barriostkdbarriostkd Member Posts: 71
    I just had my 45k mile service done on my '04 WRX sedan and was told that I need to get my rear brakes replaced soon. It's down to 1mm and they usually recommend replacement at 2mm.

    The Subaru dealership quoted me $236.62 for parts and $240 for labor. So that's $476.62 + tax. I was just wondering if I can get a better price elsewhere and what should I expect to pay? And if I were to go w/ aftermarket brake pads, what brands would you guys recommend? How much do they cost?

    I'm located in the Bay Area (East Bay), so any suggestions or places you would recommend would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!

    James B.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    James-

    You can shop for service like you shopped for a car, but don't kill yourself doing it. Most dealers can match the corner gas station if pressed and they use real parts.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Check it out, the comments they drivers make are pretty funny:

    http://imprezashakedown.com/

    -juice
  • barriostkdbarriostkd Member Posts: 71
    Got a quote for Hawk HPS pads. Rear pads are $65 + tax and $40 for install. That's a lot cheaper than the $236 parts + $240 labor that the Subaru dealership quoted me.

    My question is whether the Hawk HPS pads are just as good, worse or better than what came stock w/ the '04 WRX. Anyone out there w/ experience w/ these pads? Are they as quiet as the stock ones? I'm happy w/ stock, but wouldn't mind getting something w/ better performance although not if it means I'll have noisier brakes. Please advise.

    Thanks!

    James
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    Better?
    Yes

    Quiet?
    Not really - some squealing and "ghunking" once in a while.

    Other question not asked:

    Do they dust?
    Yes, quite alot.

    -Dave
  • barriostkdbarriostkd Member Posts: 71
    Thanks Dave! I didn't realize they would be noisy w/ some squealing. Yikes! Btw, what do you mean by "ghunking"?

    Are there are brands out there that are at least just as good as stock performance-wise and are just as quiet, but won't be as expensive as Subaru charges?

    James B
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    "ghunking" sound...
    sort of like when your rotors are rusted and you lightly press on the brakes.

    The squealing isn't often and isn't as loud as the HP+

    Somehow, I'm wondering if I really do have the HPS.
    It doesn't squeal as much/everytime or loud as the HP+, but it sure dust like the HP+.

    -Dave
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Got a quote for Hawk HPS pads. Rear pads are $65 + tax and $40 for install. That's a lot cheaper than the $236 parts + $240 labor that the Subaru dealership quoted me.

    So...tell the Subaru dealer you have a better deal and see what he says...is this the only dealer in your area? Again, go ahead and shop for a better deal.
  • barriostkdbarriostkd Member Posts: 71
    I got a better quote from the Subaru dealership I bought the car from (Santa Cruz Subaru). They're charging $234.95 for parts and labor. The only problem is they're 80 miles away.

    I checked w/ the local Big-O Tires shop nearby and they quoted me $180 for parts and labor. I asked what brand pads they use and was told they use Bendix, which they say is very close to OEM. I was wondering if any of you are familiar w/ this brand and have any input. It's a better deal price-wise, so I'm seriously considering it. Bendix is part of Honeywell Corp. so at least that's a reputable company.

    James B.
  • soupboysoupboy Member Posts: 15
    Jonathan,

    Best bang for your buck is an Ecutek Reflash. Period. Next best thing decent 17" rims/rubber.

    I no longer have my 02 but I had it dyno'd tuned using the Ecutek Reflash when installing a full APS race exhaust (catless, incl UP and TBE). My dealer didn't care about the mods. Further, my tech told me they had no way of knowing about the reflash.

    The majority of what you can achieve without really delving into the guts of the engine can be had with the reflash and it's meaningful. Google GRD Performance and Vishnu Tuning and see what you get. Also, go to www dot nasioc dot com for the real scoop on mods.

    Don't waste $ on aftermarket BOV, CAIs, etc. They're more likely to trigger CELs, yield little if any improvements and just make the car sound like the 2F2F set. Heck, even my race exhaust wasn't "necessary" but it did yield big MPG gains.

    Most importantly, enjoy!
  • searcherboysearcherboy Member Posts: 32
    Where did the WRX Wagon thread go? Was it pulled? If so, why?
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    It's still there. Link: Subaru Impreza WRX Wagon.

    If it were gone, though, you'd need to email pf_flyer, the Wagons board host. ;)
  • dowright82dowright82 Member Posts: 23
    Hi to everyone, this is my first post! I've been reading this forum for weeks now, very excited about the great new cars coming out for us in the next year. I'm 23 years old, just finished school, and I'm tired of the poor gas mileage and squeaks coming from my 2000 silverado 5 speed truck (cam, intake, exhaust, programmed, eaton posi).

    I'm anxiously awaiting my 5 test drives I have scheduled for this weekend, and just wanted some feedback as to what I should pay special attention to, or what you guys thought about my choices.

    1st: I'm going to drive the 06 si tomorrow morning. Very excited, but from what I was told on the phone, its some copper color that I am not familiar with.

    2nd: (little high) 06 V6 6speed Accord - if its as great as I think it might be, I might be able to justify the higher payments on it. I have never driven any accord, but I have heard nothing but great things about them.

    3rd: The following morning I am going to drive the 06 vw GTI (NOT THE 05, the NEW one.) Its a DSG paddle shift 6 speed. I can't wait to see how the new transmission performs.

    4th: (Lower budget) The Scion tC (figure it will leave me room for a Supercharger, some nice wheels, and a new Television haha.

    5th: 05 Subaru wrx (NON STI, drool . . .) wish i could afford the STI, but don't think insurance would fly too well.

    Having just landed my first real job and thank god I'm not married and DON'T have any kids (knock on wood) haha just I've got some money layin around for a new car that gets better than my trucks 18 mpg.

    However, I am hoping to head to Law School in the next 18 months and am on a limited budget due to the fact that I want the car paid off in 18 months.

    What would you guys suggest I check out? What do you think about my choices?? I love aftermarket parts - but not crappy ricer looking stuff, more along elegant performance upgrades. IE: NO BIG WINGS!!!

    Let me know, any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I would at least drive a Legacy GT. I've seen a left over 2005 model for $23k or so, so that overlaps in price with some others on your list.

    -juice
  • dowright82dowright82 Member Posts: 23
    You are absolutely right! I totally forgot about that car, it really is a nice one!!

    Thanks so much for the input - maybe I can sneak a test drive in when I drive the wrx.

    I guess my question about the scoob is the aftermarket dept. I would like to find a low mileage wrx that would leave me enough money to immediately put a turbo back exhaust, and uppipe, downpipe, and reprogram. What sort of numbers can I expect with those upgrades -

    I'm a little concerned about the upgradability of the CIVIC SI. With its high compression ratio, I don't know how well suited it would be for forced induction. What do you guys think?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I suspect you'd need to swap out the pistons beforehand.

    -juice
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    that would be my suggestion. buy a new car with all the power you want/need. don't screw with it.

    best use of money, most reliable, least hassle.

    ~Colin
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    You really ought to consider the Acura TSX, especially if you are thinking about the Accord. Street price on the TSX is about $25K if you know how to negotiate. I would take one over a US Accord any day (in Europe and Japan, the TSX is the Accord).

    Craig
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Just stick with a manual tranny. If you insist on an auto I'd opt for the torque of the V6 in the Accord.

    -juice
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