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Let me guess, if you buy a WRX, it will be an automatic, and you'll complain about the turbo lag and the lack of low-down torque off boost. Then you'll tell us that the WRX was too expensive, because they put the MSRP near where the car is actually worth, instead of inflating the MSRP like every single other car on the list.
Why don't you just buy a TL-S? It's appropriate for your desires more so than the WRX is. The others are only all great cars if you are a soccer mom writing a car review column for a suburban paper.
If somebody were to complain about the lack of low-end torque in the WRX and the turbo-lag, they are both valid complaints. Although the WRX is a great car, those two negatives come with the car ... they can be very annoying in every day driving.
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SCREW THAT!
happy now?
I have decided. I will get a Grand Prix GTP that has instant torque that peaks out at 280 lbs*ft and go seek out some WRXes to stomp.
All I want is a nice car to commute with while having fun. I need a good amount of interior room and a good size trunk. Wife does not drive stick, but she drives my car once in a while, hence the need for auto.
jk111 - I usually lease. Sometimes lease numbers are quite similar despite such a diversity of MSRPs.
I am not trying to pick a fight here. I am trying to see if WRX is a car for me.
Also, what is the deal with the muffler you folks stated before? what is illegal about it? I know that they have a strut/suspension package that nulls the warranty, but what is it about the muffler that would get folks all up in arms?
I don't think that it could be emissions, the cat takes care of that, is it just alot noisier than the stock one? And I just love kids that put on those huge coffee can mufflers on cars that are slightly more powerfull than a lawn tractor. I saw a kid have one of those huge mufflers on a Civic CRX HF (HF models were the super duper fuel sippers, they had minimal horsepower) the car sounded like a chainsaw, but that did not stop him from running it to redline in the parking lot, ugh.
Ok, off my soap box...
Oh, and does anybody know if Yakima makes a roof rack for the sedan WRX? Their site does not handle the Impreza Sedan, ugh...
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--Ian in Berkeley
DjB
I wish you all the luck in getting a good safe reliable car, but don't really think that you 'need' a WRX.
I do agree with you about there being a ton of other Honda/Toyotas out there, and the WRX does stand out. I love mine!!
Best of luck to you.
Dennis
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
-juice
First off, you're comparing a mid-sized, FWD that weighs over 3500 pounds to a compact, AWD weighing over 11% less. They are nowhere near the same class. Not to mention, in 0-60 and quarter mile, the Soobie blows the GTP away. And you can forget about even keeping an eye on the tail of the ReX when you hit the turns and/or if the weather isn't ideal.
If you don't believe all the reviews and hard data, why don't you find out for yourself? You already have a GTP, so just go find a WRX to race if you want.
I am tired of hearing people try to compare everything under the sun to the WRX (and vice versa). If the car is too small for you, then go get something else. If you think the idea of a small turbo 4-cyl is a bad one, then go get something else. But don't think that your car is better just because you prefer it. If everybody wanted the same car, the world would be a pretty boring place.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Anybody know how to get off the line fast?
Which looks better the standard flat silver trim or the carbon fiber?
I was reading how you have the carbon fiber trim. Does it look better than the stock flat silver trim? Any pictures that could be passed along?
COME ON MAN! my sister wants to get me a camry, please don't let that happen to me! PLEASE!!!
any drivers think they're hot?
go visit korea, driving there is like hell, that's where i learned -.-
I tried to have a civilized discussion but got flames instead. It seems like a lot of WRX fans are teenage punks. I hope it is not the case.
If I wait for the rpms to come down a bit and then shift into fifth it works fine.
Note that this never happens during normal driving.
That said. It's obvious that I don't drive this car easy and that's the only possible problem so far. It might not even be a real problem. I need to show it to the dealer and see what they say.
The car is tight and it's lot's of fun. It's quiet and rides nicer than it should (suspension needs to be tightened up a little for my taste). Compared with my former 2000 mustang GT it's a treat to drive on a daily basis because it's roomier, quieter, tighter, rides better, tracks corners better (although on a smooth road the mustang will out corner it because of it's 245/45ZR17's) Plus it will go in the snow. The mustang's v8 did have a cool rumble and endless amounts of torque though...
Compared with my former 2000 Maxima SE (auto) it's more fun but not as comfortable. The AWD makes it really fun around corners compared with the maxima's FWD. Still, unless you like to break the tires loose around corners and really drive a car hard, I'd buy a 5sp. Maxima. A loaded Maxima SE is going for 25k these days.
The build quality is almost perfect, but the materials are nothing like the maxima. This "is" an imprezza. I will say however that everything is located in easy reach of the driver and the interior is sufficent for daily use. The mustang's interior was almost less than livable (cramped and dated).
Now for the best part. For around 5k the WRX can be transformed into a screamer and a handler. If only the market would recover!!!
Oh ya. THESE BRIDGESTONE TIRES HAVE GOT TO GO!!! I can't believe subaru would use these things on this car. Junk...
See:
http://www.cobbtuning.com/projectwrx/wrx-stage1.html
Stephen (39 years young!!)
As for the Trims, I like the Silver much better than the carbon fiber... The Carbon looks cheap while the Silver is much more classy (despite that its fake) and matches the pedals/gaugetrim better.
I've experienced the same shifting grind as pdefina (post #1584), but in my case, it's usually from 2nd to 5th gear. (I'm usually a pretty sedate driver, but the urge to rev can be greater than Homer's urge for donuts! Doh!) I had a 1999 Maxima manual, and I'd do that often after quick acceleration in that car without a hitch. But then, the Maxima's FWD transmission was a lot more forgiving since the engine didn't seem to be as directly tied to the wheels and the road as the WRX does on all four wheels. I don't see this as a problem, though, and have just adjusted my driving style to row through all the gears.
As for engine bogging at quick starts with the manual -- I'm getting better at it. There are two ways: 1) You could dump the clutch at about 3500-4000 RPMS while thrashing the throttle down, and then sit in the stench of a burned out clutch; or 2) Rev the engine to about 3000, then feather the clutch out while slowly but firmly pressing down on the gas (this is what I do).
>SCREW THAT!
>happy now?
>I have decided. I will get a Grand Prix GTP that
>has instant torque that peaks out at 280 lbs*ft
>and go seek out some WRXes to stomp.
Is this your idea of a "discussion"? Maybe the invitation to an intelligent exchange of views was overlooked due to the use of the terms "screw that" and "stomp". But, if its in there, feel free to point it out.
I'm sorry you're feelings got hurt, but I don't think that was anyone's intention. You made a silly statement and it was responded to with facts (maybe a tad emotional at times, but nothing severe). Like a couple of folks have stated (including me), go get another GTP if that's what makes you happy. I'm just telling you that you won't be "stomping" much of anything in it.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
The WRC is a WRX with different wheels, tires, springs, and a few tweaks to the engine. Same chassis and engine block.
-juice
I can totally understand your desire for your own car, my concern was that for your first car and being in school still, maybe in reality the WRX is not the ideal choice. If you have the means to get one, then sure, go for it, you won't be dissappointed. The car handles like mad, there is tons of power and the seats and overall feel of the car is fantastic.
As for my first car, the Wagon, put it this way, the car was 4175 lbs and had 125 horsepower (not a lot of ways to get into trouble).
As for some of the arguments/discussions on this board....I always wonder why folks 'yell' back and forth at each other over issues or ideas or thoughts that are so minute. I love my car, and I would assume that everybody on here loves their car for their own reasons, why do people give eachother so much grief because they might love their car better than they love your WRX?
Almost all message boards are the same way, the idea that you can just berate somebody for no real good reason and be annonymous at the same time just must appeal to some folks.
(this board is actually pretty tame compared to some I have seen, so please don't take offense any of you out there, was just 'voicing' an opinion.)
As for which car is best for you, only you can decide, and you will be happiest picking one that you love, don't get a car for anybody other than you! (unless you have like 4 kids and really need a minivan and you go out and buy a WRX and then have to explain to your wife just what you were thinking----no, I didn't do this, heck, I am not even married, but you get the idea)
Our dealer now sends sales people out on evey test drive of the WRX. I got in before the new "policy".
thanks
Regarding your starts:
"2) Rev the engine to about 3000, then feather the clutch out while slowly but firmly pressing down on the gas (this is what I do)."
I have also done this to see the response- great I must say. But is this not also bad for the clutch? Is it not comparable to sitting at a red light on an incline, no brake, clutch half in, half out, holding your ground?
I am terrified of killing the clutch, this is why I ask.
Thanks,
John
Thanks for the I-club info.
and as for some prior posts, I have seen the carbon fibre pieces on one of the cars, and I was not overly impressed, I would suggest you save the coin and keep the stock pieces.
Funny comment Ruski! heck, my other car is a 79 Triumph Spitfire so when I go from the 55hp it has to the 227, just driving it like an econo car is a huge improvement for me!!
Happy motoring
According to her, it was not as bad as my car, but if you spool it up a bit before taking off, you can launch super hard and wiz by a GTP without heating the clutch hardly at all.
This does take very little practice, and once you achieve the timing of everything, you will notice no more lag! It usually takes one nice rev of about 3500-4500RPM just before you leave the line, but you can still launch decently at about 2000RPM. Good Luck!
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