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Chrysler 300M



  • rogor2krogor2k Posts: 385
    There was a funny story about these on the news a few months back. Seems a motorist received a ticket for running a red light, along with a photo of his car running the light.

    The motorist (with a sense of humor) send in the ticket with a photo of a check made out for the amount of the ticket.

    In a few days, he received a second ticket accompanied by a photo of handcuffs. The news story ended there.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    A couple of people here that did their own plugs had some trouble getting out the little hex bolts that held the coil/covers on. Other than that there have been no problems. I paid my 5* $75 to put the plugs in for me, as I'm not one to spend much time messing with engines myself anymore.

  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    There is currently a raging battle down here in San Diego over the legality and accuracy of the intersection cameras. San Diego has turned them off until it's all resolved. Most of the battle centers on the profit motive instead of a public safety motive. The contractor that manages the devices, Lockheed Martin, gets 50% of all ticket revenues generated. Someone also discovered that a Lockheed technician moved one of the sensors without re-calibrating the camera, leading to questions about accuracy and motive again. If the goal is to make an intersection safer it might have backfired a bit. I find that when I enter one of those intersections on a green I fly through as fast as I can to avoid a possible problem. I also find that I SLAM on my brakes if the light turns yellow, not wanting to risk a ticket. I'm sure similar actions by others equally as paranoid of the cameras have resulted in quite a few rear-enders.

    The worst camera is in a big intersection next to Fry's second home. LOL. It was much less stress when I didn't have plates on Big Red.

  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    May you all have sunny days so you can zaino to your heart's content and drive around with the hole in the roof open. :)

  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    On July 31 a new topic will be added to town hall...."fanatical car behavior". We might all have something to add to that one. LOL
  • mikeyjohnmikeyjohn Posts: 365
    I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • mikeyjohnmikeyjohn Posts: 365
    I can see that being a court test case here because it's so new. I was going to say that a person should remove his rear plate, because we do not have front plates here. I have seen cars in Vegas with no plates, but we must have a plate unless you have an intransit sticker which is only good from one province to another within a short period of time.
  • fit2btidefit2btide Posts: 5
    We bought a '99 300M just over a month ago. Only 14,000 miles on it. Last week, my wife wrecked it...not her fault, and she's okay, thank goodness. She swerved to miss a nut making a very wide turn on a narrow street and hit a low brick wall lining someone's yard. Other driver left the scene. Adjuster's still working with the estimate and we're waiting for repairs to start. Not pretty! The right front fender, lower front fascia, fog light, and drape under front are smashed. Couldn't tell if frame is damaged. Right front tire and wheel are damaged. My wife knows it was my pride and's sad. But, hey...I'm glad she's okay.
  • phases78phases78 Posts: 471
    man i know how you feel, i wrecked my white M a couple weeks ago. got rear ended at a red light. thank goodness shes okay though!! i hope your M gets repaired quickly and back good as new, keep us posted!
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    Bummer man. Don't call it wrecked unless it's heading for the great M graveyard in the sky. Call it "crunched", it'll make you feel better. lol. Good luck with the repairs. Make sure they use genuine chrylser parts, and don't accept the car back unless you're 100% happy with it.

  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    I know, I know. Beginning to wish the meet was a year away to do some more mods, but I guess I will have to wait until west coast meet part Dux. Actually my vacation starts in less than four weeks so I have even less time. Lets see finish the wiring of the switches, lights spoiler hood scoop plumbing, tires, and I know I probably left out a dozen others. But I will be there.
  • grunschevgrunschev Posts: 106
    Here in Phoenix, the red light runner's capital of the world, many municipalities have the red light cameras. They seem to be adjusted so that if you enter the intersection on green or yellow you won't get nabbed. One evening I watched a line of cars turn left after the light changed -- the last two caused the strobes to fire. They were clearly illegal.

    Some people put covers over their plates to try to prevent the camera from getting a good shot. Scottsdale will ticket you in some cases. Other people will hold a newspaper or clipboard over their faces when they go through so they can't be identified. Others just ignore the letters when they come in the mail.

    Red light running is particularly dangerous here. The speed limit on most streets is 45. That means people generally go 50. Then they speed up to run the light, so you've got people going 60 through red lights with newspapers covering their faces. Oh, the horror!

  • spyboyspyboy Posts: 22
    Driving north on NJ Turnpike yesterday evening.
    Saw scores of M's. Very popular car in northeast.
    Nicest one was a pinstriped slate blue w/it's roof
    covered in sandstone vinyl. Looked like a whole new
    design! Moved up next to him and gave him a thumb's up.
    Old guy (like me) just smiled.

    Worst siting was an inferno red pulled over by NJ State Police.
    Tsk...automotive profiling?
  • sirharpersirharper Posts: 112
    OK, I'm asking for opinions on the Borla exhaust system installed on M's. I placed my order yesterday it's not in the car yet so I still can back out. I was under the understanding that it would be quieter than a dual system. It the noise is bad I don't want to do it. I like some rumble sound, heck my Sebring Jxi had it why can't my M? If anybody can offer their opinions I would appreciate it! I know there has been at least 1 person here that has replaced their Borla already.
  • stevenw300stevenw300 Posts: 90
    It is bright and sunny here - great Zaino weather. Thanks for the good wishes. Just hope I have enough energy to Zaino my M after the Zaino job on the wife's new Town and Country.

    How many coats of Zaino does it take to make someone a fanatic? LOL

    Have a great weekend.
  • stevenw300stevenw300 Posts: 90
    Do you know if the dual exhausts that will be on the 300M Special will fit on my 99 300M? If so, I wonder how the stock duals on the Special compare to the Borla exhaust and some of the other dual mods that have been made.

    Sirharper - this may be of interest to you unless you do not want to wait for the stock dual system on the Special.
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    I dont see why not,. the only diffrence in the Special exhaust is a two outlet rear mufler and a right side exhaust pipe. As for sound , I have know idea
  • rogor2krogor2k Posts: 385
    I haven't actually heard a Borla 300M. Most who have installed the Borla system report that it's pretty loud. There is also a lot of cabin resonance in the 2200 - 2600 RPM range. This is lessened by the addition of some small annular venturi tubes that have to be tack welded inside the pipes.

    I have the Michael Hujo design duals and have been very happy it. The noise level is moderate and pleasant. The only scary part of the installation is cutting the right side notch in the fascia. The rest is easy and readily done by any decent muffler shop if you're not into doing it yourself.
  • Just catching up with postings after a week trip to NYC. Dr. Pixel, AKA Glen Beye, was kind enough to give me a phone call and welcome me to NYC. Too bad I was working a long, long way from his workplace, so it wasn't possible to meet personally. I have to change ISP for my work PC cause I ran up a $290 LD bill since SW Bell has no local number to dialup in NY. After riding around in filthy taxis and subway cars, what a treat to sit in my M and smell the leather.

    My BassLink from an EBay auction was shipped yesterday. I plan on installing it next weekend. I'm a little confused by the postings on the optimum placement. I like the convenience of placing it out of the way as shown in pictures on the Craig Campfield site.
    Have a nice weekend. Silver
  • 300mlover300mlover Posts: 132
    Sirharper-How much did the Borla end up costing you? Did you ask them to install the venturis for you?

    StevenW300- Why would you want to buy the duals from DC? Could you even imagine what they would charge for that through parts! Call and ask about the cost of your current exhaust. It will blow your mind!

    FYI- Talked to Borla last week and guess who is making the dual set up for the 300 special. Yep you guessed right. Borla! They are still testing it right now. Nothing definite yet, but it looks like it will be just like the current Borla catback system with a dual outlet muffler in the rear. They might even do it from the exhaust manifold back. Which would mean performance cats would be available!! My guy says he will keep me posted and let me know what comes of it.
  • stevenw300stevenw300 Posts: 90
    Thanks for the quick answer. Hope you have a great weekend.
  • stevenw300stevenw300 Posts: 90
    Thanks for the info. Sounds like you have a good point re: the cost from DC. But based on the news you got from Borla - it should be able to be purchased direct from them. Of course, I will still compare it to the Michael Hujo design that some of the owners seem very happy with. Please keep me posted with any additional info you get from Borla.

    Once again - thanks alot and have a great weekend.
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    yeah ,you could go to a aftermarket exhaust and save $$$$ big money . Some parts the dealer sells are worth it ,but most basic parts are a lot cheaper from other auto parts dealers.

    stevenw300-no prob, just going to have a few cold ones at the pool . you all enjoy your weekend. Come Monday we start building 2002's .
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    Hey Otto, think we could get a factory tour if any of us wanted to come up? One of the Prowler web sites has a whole series of pictures from when the factory welcomed the Prowler Club members with open arms and gave them the full tour. That would be cool.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    Here is some information on exhausts for those that have questions:

    1: Stock - The stock system uses three mufflers... A collector behind the cats, a resonator that sits sideways behind the gas tank, and a small muffler near the cutout with two tips sticking out of it. The exhaust goes from the 2 cats into the front collector, and then a single 3" stainless pipe runs back to the center resonator. The center resonator has a single pipe that runs to the final muffler, at which point it's split into dual tips. On the '01 those tips are chrome. This system is very quiet, but it's also very restrictive in terms of air flow.

    2. Hugo Design - The "Hugo" design replaces the front collector and center resonator with high flow mufflers (Magnaflow, Rhino, Dynomax) and removes the rear muffler all together. The exhaust flows from the cats into the new collector (most have used the Dynomax), and then uses the stock intermediate pipe back to the new center resonator (magnaflow/rhino). The difference is that now their are two pipes from the center resonator, one to the existing cutout and one to a new cutout on the right side. Finish off the pipe with the tips of your choice. This system has a very nice growl to it. There is a small amount of resonation in the 2,000 - 2,400 RPM range, but I actually like it. This system allows much better air flow and some improved MPG. You can notice a performance difference immediately. The system is about $500 installed.

    3. Borla - The Borla system essentially replaces the stock with high-flow components and leaves out the rear muffler. The exhaust exists the existing cutout (the benefit). The system isn't cheap, and it is reported to be louder than the Hugo system with more resonance in the 2,000-2,400 range. Borla has provided venturi tubes to fix this, but they have to be welded in.

    4. Straight duals. - Instead of running the pipes from behind the cats into a collector, a couple of people here (Av, Phases) have run straight pipes from the cats back to one resonator muffler on each side, and then straight back to tips on both sides. This system is significantly louder than the others mentioned above, as there is only one muffler between the cats and the tips on each side.

    Here is a link to my photo galleries, including my dual exhaust page, which has a diagram of the Hugo design that I used plus pictures of the install. Anyone else notice that Photopoint has been off line more than it's been on?

  • When I was at the dealer picking up parts, one of the sales guys said the delivery date for the special had been pushed out to November. They were originally due to arrive in September. I had the PHG struts and springs installed yesterday, man what a difference they are over the H&R springs. The ride is firm and crisp with no rattles or bouncing! Think I'll go put some more Zaino on in warm (ok hot) sunny California.

  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    I put another two coats of Zaino on big red today. 75 and sunny! I hope you were able to do something equally as satisfying on this fine weekend. :)

    Hey! That guy with the inferno red M pulled over by the cop needs to realize that our cars look like they're going 10mph faster than they really are. ;) Be careful out there!

  • Yes the Borla is louder than stock. It is very noticible @ 2000 to 2500 rpm which is the normal rpm range when on the high way. Is it annoying? I have gotten used to it but my wife still doesn't care for it. I did not get the venturies from Borla since they wanted to charge for them and that would have meant another trip to the muffler shop.

  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    So you're a PHG owner now, huh? I drove both when I picked out my car in March and I have to say that PHG was clearly a must for me. Nothing like flying around a corner during the test drive and having the sales person say "whooo...damn this thing corners great!". lol
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    Hood of my car after today's Zaino treatment...

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