My 2000 M is at dealer as we speak. My question is, does your 300 have a draft sound coming from the driver door? Not feeling any air but hear it and the tech rep says this is normal. Didnt have it before dealer fixed the rattle in the door, but there now. Is this normal? By the way the insulation IS there. Thanks for your response.
I have tried to email him, but with no responce. As for the front turn light, I have one but have been trying to undo the adheasive that holds them together (I am trying to do this the the fog, and headlamps too). No luck so far. My last resort will be pool acid. If the lens can come off it would be fairly easy to make a mold of it.
Yep, only got the fronts. The rears aren't critical, and mine don't need replacing as far as I know.
The rotors are from KVR, but they may actually be factory rotors that KVR drills holes in.
I wanted a minimum number of holes; I prefer braking surface over heat dissipation (since they are cryo-treated, heat shouldn't matter as much). 24 holes should be enough for improved wet weather braking.
Have you checked for the shrinking weatherstrip phenomenon? While inside your car, look at the trim/weatherstrip (they're connected) at the top corner next to the B pillar of the car. Is the trim tight against the car as it rounds the bend, or has it shrunk and pulled away? Several folks, including me, have had their weatherstripping replaced under warranty. I could actually see daylight between the trim and the car in that corner. I don't recall hearing any noise from this, but perhaps it could be the cause.
I have noticed in the past couple of months an annoying 'road noise' sound coming from the drivers side door--mostly seems to be coming from behind and either below the window around the 'pillar' . I can hear air/road noise, etc. as though the door was open! I thought I was losing it, but apparently I'm not. I think it is the door seal shrinkage thing some here have mentioned here that has happened to them (door seal shrinkage); and totally agree with 300Michael...no draft is NORMAL. Martin K. of NJ and George C. of PA... have attempted to email you both...error messages say mg...@aol.com email address does not exist, and nike.......@excite.com has exceeded folder limitations (its full...). Please contact me at my home email address on the 'Contact Us' page on the club web site. Thanks,
If you haven't ACTUALLY SEEN the Pacifica, don't knock it! It was the hit of the Detroit show, drawing enthusiastic raves from both the press and the public. The production version, due early next year, will be All-Wheel drive, and will be built at the Windsor, Ontario plant. I want one!
My wife just drove away in Big Red (I know, I know...I should know better) and I noticed rubber trim sticking out from where the front of the driver's door pivots. Seems the top leading edge of the driver's door, where it comes to a point, has dug into the rubber weather stripping and ripped it. Rubber cement might be a temporary fix (comments?) but I'm gonna make DC replace it.
Spoiler--Try www.Dawn-ent.com. They have an excellent 2 pillar, no light bar product and the paint is flawless to the original. Got mine for $300 installed thru Ziebart dealer.
glenn, that looks so good I ordered a set today. My windows aren't tinted but, they should look good with deep slate. Guess they don't make them for rear windows. Thanks for thr pix; sold me! Rick
Decided to investigate this stange occurance myself and discovered (TO MY SURPRISE) 2 different TSB's covering my year model for this exact thing. #230700 dated 2/00 and #235499 dated 12/99. Unbelievable that this tech rep is bold face lying about this. I called the dealer this morning and GAVE THEM the information, they said they would check it out and get back to me. (I'm still waiting). I am so so so disappointed that this manufacturer would allow their Tech rep to outright lie to their customers. Keep in mind this is the same tech rep (Steve Doty) that has said 5 times now that the vibration in my car is fixed. Oh by the way, thats why my car is in the shop again. When this is over, I'm going to sit down and write a letter to this company informing them of how I was treated. I would not recomend Chrysler to anyone. After reading these entries of the down right lousy service I will never buy another one.
PS Took car to different dealer this time. It's a Dodge dealer and they actually care if I'm satisfied with their service. They had me come in yesterday to test drive my car to see if vibration was gone. It wasn't, and now car pulling to the left.............. They still trying to fix it though..
The wife and I are going to Lost Wages with another couple. I find it interesting that the last time we drove to LV (in our Grand Am), my wife said she'd never drive again and wanted to fly instead. Now she just wants to know how many CDs she gets to pick out.
If I'm not mistaken, without looking back hundreds of messages, you "won" your arbitration hearing, but Chrysler had ONE more chance to fix your problem. I told you then and I'll say it again- GO WITH THE ARBITRATION! If you ever read my soap opera story about Christine in my profile, you would have known that the factory reps are NO better than the dealer! I had TWO who lied to me. The first one got fired- I think. At least he was no longer going to the dealers around here. The second one was no better. ALL lies. This won't end- trust me. It's up to you. Until Chrysler gets their .1 dealers and factory reps under control, nothing will change. The TRUE "5-STAR" dealers are FAR and FEW between despite the fact that they're almost all listed as "5-STAR"! It's a CROCK! It's the factory reps who check on the dealers to see if they are abiding by the rules listed at fivestar.com. Since they lie, what results do you expect! The dealers treat those reps very well, so that their "reports" will be glowing, so that they can keep their "5-STAR" rating. Detroit has NO clue what the real world dealers are like. This, I truly believe.
ALL-
I received these pics today from a former? member here who thought of me when he saw this car. I JUST had to post the link here! The "old-timers" here will appreciate it more than the newer members. If you don't "get it", just click on my name above and you'll see the connection. I had to use that "make a link shorter website because of Edmunds 115 character limit, but this URL does work. Just wait a second after clicking on it and you will end up at Ofoto.com.
and christine is even red and appears to have that Zaino shine--were the lights flashing at you went you looked at it? Who was the former member who sent the pics?
LOL.... I wish I did see it in person! Then again, maybe it would attack ME just to get even for naming my former 300M Christine. It was "mykem" who sent me the pics.
I did win the arbitration and after having my car for 8 days and ONLY instaling 4 new tires my local dealer said my car was fixed. My neighbor is a GM for Subaru who is friends with the GM at this Dodge dealer. He talked with this guy and this guy promised to do everything HE CAN to fix my car. I took it to them and spoke with the best mechanic who said out of 9 arbits he fixed 8 of the cars. I talked with this guy for a long time and believe he is an honest person (the mechanic. THE PROBLEM: the tech rep who is tieing(sp) his hands on what and when he can do things. When I took my car to local dealer no noise in door, comes back with noise, so told new dealer to fix this while they have the car. My problem: If you go into KBB.com to get either the trade in value or the resale value of my car I am losing around $10-12,000.00. I am trying my hardest to get this car fixed. (if it can be fixed). I HAVE TO give them every opportunity to fix it because I love this car and believe it or not mine is more beautiful than even the new ones. So.. when someone tells me he will do EVERYTHING he can to fix my car I have to (or better yet) WANT to let him try. I know my decision on whats next is coming... I HAVE spoken with an attorney.... PS Bought my car 1/15/00, had it now just ove 2 years. Thats alot of money to lose just to drive car for 2 years, don't you think?
I know a bunch of you have upgraded the tailights on your 99 to the "jewel" tailights that come on the 01 and 02's... I got a pretty good deal on one off ebay ($55) and got it today... now all I have to do is find the best price on one for the other side... Whomever bought them, where did you find the best deal ?
Also, I was looking at the 99 and 01 tailights next to each other and noticed that the bulb sizes are different... what did you guys do to get it to work ?
First of all I am a new "hotrod" M owner. I am going to install some mods to the car, which is a stone white non-php with 17" chromes. Which mods will give the car the most horsepower? I will go with the dual exhaust system but have not seen a true dual exhaust system for the car as of yet.
The mod that will give you the most HP is a Paxton Supercharger, but that will cost you about $8,000 including installation and the new hood you'll need for your car!
I installed a dual exhaust (hugo design), a K&N Aircharger and Bosch Platinum +4 plugs and have mad the car significantly faster. The total price tag was about $800 for these mods. Add $200 for a bored out (80mm) throttle body and now you're cooking. If you had another $1,500 around you could get a set of Prowler Pro gears that raises the shift points and RPMs about 20%. That will have you running like a scalded cat in no time. I have pictures of my mods linked off my 300M web site at http://www.ritchiefamily.com/300m.htm
Hey whatever happend to the discussion about custom floor mats ? Im going to be needing some new mats and would rather get some nice logo'd ones... If this isnt going to happen I'll just go pick some up from my local parts dept.... Let me know ...
Did we ever get any info from this ? I saw the initial dyno that was done on the club web site, but that is oooooooooold... curious what the results will look like ...
sdmike speaks the truth...the Bosch+4 sparks and the K&N intake make huge differences. I like my Borla personally and don't much favor the dual setups but that is a preference.
2 more things not mentioned make a noted improvement as well. Use Mobil1 Synthetic motor oil it really does help your output and spool-up rate. The other thing is risky but worthwhile if you trust your own awareness and self-control. Remove the EMU and send it in to Kenne-Bell for performance tuning. It does several things including RPM adjustments and fuel enrichment. BEWARE...gone is your rev limiter! Unlike the OEM software which will upshift to protect itself when you are in autostick and if all else fails it will cut the fuel, the Kenne-Bell will allow you to rev into the ground (a easy mistake to make when in autostick 1st). While I do not suggest anyone do it (assuming you are able) the M engine can handle short busts above red line. If you do that though consider the Mobil1 synthetic oil MANDATORY!
On the dual exhaust. Most of us have the Hujo or simular type of duels. You can run two seperate pipes or one larger pipe to get the same effect. The cats are where the pipe has the most restrictions. the pipes comming out is 2.25" so if you run a single 3" it would be about the same as two 2.25 pipes. But anything is an improvement over the stock set up.
good deal on the single 01 light. The bulbs on the center (red) is the same on all the bulbs I think they are 3157 the harness just plugs into the 99 plus blug and you are in business. If you want the center red to act like a brake light it will have to be rewired (something that takes about 15 minuets with the right tools).
I hear you. That's exactly how I felt at first. Not that they ever said they would do everything to fix it, but I believed they were sincere. That is until I noticed things like "test drove car"- fine. Only to notice that the mileage was the SAME as when I dropped it off. Also, seemed to get a "look" when I went back that said "HE'S back"!! I was ALWAYS nice to them because I figured if I wasn't, they'd do nothing.
I hope your new dealer is sincere. I would imagine knowing someone does help, but if the factory rep interferes like mine did, then the dealer's hands are tied because they won't be reimbursed by Chrysler. I had to call Auburn Hills several times to get help because of the factory rep's interference into something that had NOTHING to do with him!
Anybody been to the Volo, IL Auto Museum? Possible locale for a gettogether this spring or early summer. Looks like they have something for everybody. Web site is volocars.com Just an idea. Rick
Hey fellow 300M'ers! It's been awhile since I've last posted.. Lot's has gone on..but I won't bore you with the details.
The blue beauty is doing great! 33K, a new set of tires (Pirelli's) HAD to get rid of the GY's which WERE the cause of my shimmy. I did have a defective tire, but DC refused to acknowledge it, saying I had to have hit a curb. DC/GY, take your tires and... well you know.
I'm in the market for a car cover. Don't want to spend a mint, but don't want a cheap and cheerful model either. Does anyone have a recommendation of where (online would be fine) I can buy a good one??
I'm glad to see many die hard's here!! It's good to be back.
If anyone's interested in seeing my recent acquisition, a 1961 Cadillac Coupe deVille "weekend car", let me know!
There appears to be only one aftermarket exhaust kit for the M, and it's made by Borla. If I remember correctly (and those of you that have installed it, chime in), from the collector up front it comes back to a single muffler, and then dual pipes to the original cut-out. Still not a true "dual exhaust", but rather similar in airflow to the "Hugo Design" that many of us have used (both sides). I think the Borla system runs between $500 and $600. Two other members here have put true dual exhaust on their cars, from the cats back to the cutouts. They'll have to chime in with more information on what they used and the results.
Just the man I was looking for. We have the wrong email address for you (rr.com) and I haven't been able to reach you. Please e-mail me at mritchie@san.rr.com. We have a SoCal club event coming up and I want to get the information/invite to you.
Why is IL. considered the Mid west? To me the mid west is Utah, New Mexico. You have the west the mid west,(east-west)(west-central), central, east-central) and (I guess mid east?), and east. I think Il is the mid east. Some times I wonder who made up these terms. It seams that every thing west of the Appan. Mount. is consdidered West. Sorry rstlip. That term just gets me, kind of like freezer burn, and front end (on a car).
ok....I live in Houston, so I travel 270 miles north on I-45 and I am in North Texas, but I can go even farther north to Lubbock and I am no longer in North Texas. But the Dallas Cowboys don't even play in Dallas, go figure! Oh....and Texas was once the Old West.
I have the same issues! I think the geographic center of the country is around Nebraska or Kansas. That means anything west of that is west, right? So the middle of the west (or Mid-west) should be Utah!
nice place and quite a bit off of the beaten path. they're at the chicago auto show every year with six different cars.
This year, featured were Christine, a Dusenberg Phaeton, a '69 Shelby GT 350 RAM-Air 4-speed, one of 27 built, a 1961 Chrysler 300, the General Lee (from Dukes of Hazzard), and an Olds 440 of some importance.
I also have one more pic of Christine (side view) that I forgot I had. Coming soon!
On my way to work every day I cut through an Auto Park so I see the Chrysler/Dodge dealer and others daily. A trend I had been noticing with Chrysler and the GM dealer next door is to upgrade some of the new vehicles with larger custom wheels and performance tires -- then marking up the price for the addition. Chrysler had been doing this alot wither their PT's. Today I noticed a beautiful Inferno Red '02 M with 20" Lexani's. What a sharp looking car -- I bet it goes fast.
Another thing I saw today which kinda made me chuckle...the Acura dealer which always showcases their CL's and TL's, had sitting in the "place of honor" (a raised round deck that is the main focal point from the road) --- a dark green 2000 300M!
I've noticed that trend a bit with the PT's as well, but hadn't seen it done on the Ms. It looks like the dealer has found yet ANOTHER way to make a buck. They probably mark up those 20" wheels by a few hundred, then turn around and sell the chrome rims and michelins too!
oh..on your last comment about the acura dealer...I bet that tore fastdriver's heart out.
No haven't been able to card that M yet. He's had the cover on and wasn't there this morning. I'll keep checking.
Re: the markups I check out a PT last time I was at the dealer that had 18" custom wheels and low profile Kumho's on and they were upping the cost by $1,800 (not too bad).
Fastdriver -- I'll beat ya to it...you might say sometime traded the M in on a superior TL or CL and the dealer just wants to hurry it off the lot. But, don't most dealers get their used cars at auctions?
Comments
The rotors are from KVR, but they may actually be factory rotors that KVR drills holes in.
I wanted a minimum number of holes; I prefer braking surface over heat dissipation (since they are cryo-treated, heat shouldn't matter as much). 24 holes should be enough for improved wet weather braking.
Anti-squeak stuff is provided.
The pads are Porterfield Carbon/Kevlar R4-S:
http://www.myroadster.net/aboutlowdust.asp
I'm going to have one of those car shops with the big yellow signs install my brakes and rotors.
I can hear air/road noise, etc. as though the door was open! I thought I was losing it, but apparently I'm not. I think it is the door seal shrinkage thing some here have mentioned here that has happened to them (door seal shrinkage); and totally agree with 300Michael...no draft is NORMAL.
Martin K. of NJ and George C. of PA... have attempted to email you both...error messages say mg...@aol.com email address does not exist, and nike.......@excite.com has exceeded folder limitations (its full...). Please contact me at my home email address on the 'Contact Us' page on the club web site. Thanks,
Drpixel/Glenn
It was the hit of the Detroit show, drawing enthusiastic raves from both the press and the public.
The production version, due early next year, will be All-Wheel drive, and will be built at the Windsor, Ontario plant.
I want one!
http://www.spoilers4less.com/
http://www.california-dream.com (where I got mine)
http://www.wings-plus.com/
http://www.spoilerdepot.com/
http://www.sportwing.com/ (check out the top picture)
http://www.iapwings.com/spoilers.html
Thanks for thr pix; sold me!
Rick
PS Took car to different dealer this time. It's a Dodge dealer and they actually care if I'm satisfied with their service. They had me come in yesterday to test drive my car to see if vibration was gone. It wasn't, and now car pulling to the left.............. They still trying to fix it though..
Igor
If I'm not mistaken, without looking back hundreds of messages, you "won" your arbitration hearing, but Chrysler had ONE more chance to fix your problem. I told you then and I'll say it again- GO WITH THE ARBITRATION! If you ever read my soap opera story about Christine in my profile, you would have known that the factory reps are NO better than the dealer! I had TWO who lied to me. The first one got fired- I think. At least he was no longer going to the dealers around here. The second one was no better. ALL lies. This won't end- trust me. It's up to you. Until Chrysler gets their .1 dealers and factory reps under control, nothing will change. The TRUE "5-STAR" dealers are FAR and FEW between despite the fact that they're almost all listed as "5-STAR"! It's a CROCK! It's the factory reps who check on the dealers to see if they are abiding by the rules listed at fivestar.com. Since they lie, what results do you expect! The dealers treat those reps very well, so that their "reports" will be glowing, so that they can keep their "5-STAR" rating. Detroit has NO clue what the real world dealers are like. This, I truly believe.
ALL-
I received these pics today from a former? member here who thought of me when he saw this car. I JUST had to post the link here! The "old-timers" here will appreciate it more than the newer members. If you don't "get it", just click on my name above and you'll see the connection. I had to use that "make a link shorter website because of Edmunds 115 character limit, but this URL does work. Just wait a second after clicking on it and you will end up at Ofoto.com.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?S14D41A6
fastdriver
LOL.... I wish I did see it in person! Then again, maybe it would attack ME just to get even for naming my former 300M Christine. It was "mykem" who sent me the pics.
fastdriver
My problem:
If you go into KBB.com to get either the trade in value or the resale value of my car I am losing around $10-12,000.00. I am trying my hardest to get this car fixed. (if it can be fixed). I HAVE TO give them every opportunity to fix it because
I love this car and believe it or not mine is more beautiful than even the new ones. So.. when someone tells me he will do EVERYTHING he can to fix my car I have to (or better yet) WANT to let him try.
I know my decision on whats next is coming... I HAVE spoken with an attorney....
PS Bought my car 1/15/00, had it now just ove 2 years. Thats alot of money to lose just to drive car for 2 years, don't you think?
Also, I was looking at the 99 and 01 tailights next to each other and noticed that the bulb sizes are different... what did you guys do to get it to work ?
I installed a dual exhaust (hugo design), a K&N Aircharger and Bosch Platinum +4 plugs and have mad the car significantly faster. The total price tag was about $800 for these mods. Add $200 for a bored out (80mm) throttle body and now you're cooking. If you had another $1,500 around you could get a set of Prowler Pro gears that raises the shift points and RPMs about 20%. That will have you running like a scalded cat in no time. I have pictures of my mods linked off my 300M web site at http://www.ritchiefamily.com/300m.htm
2 more things not mentioned make a noted improvement as well. Use Mobil1 Synthetic motor oil it really does help your output and spool-up rate. The other thing is risky but worthwhile if you trust your own awareness and self-control. Remove the EMU and send it in to Kenne-Bell for performance tuning. It does several things including RPM adjustments and fuel enrichment. BEWARE...gone is your rev limiter! Unlike the OEM software which will upshift to protect itself when you are in autostick and if all else fails it will cut the fuel, the Kenne-Bell will allow you to rev into the ground (a easy mistake to make when in autostick 1st). While I do not suggest anyone do it (assuming you are able) the M engine can handle short busts above red line. If you do that though consider the Mobil1 synthetic oil MANDATORY!
http://public.fotki.com/Scotian/300m/interior/catch_all_xtreme/
I hear you. That's exactly how I felt at first. Not that they ever said they would do everything to fix it, but I believed they were sincere. That is until I noticed things like "test drove car"- fine. Only to notice that the mileage was the SAME as when I dropped it off. Also, seemed to get a "look" when I went back that said "HE'S back"!! I was ALWAYS nice to them because I figured if I wasn't, they'd do nothing.
I hope your new dealer is sincere. I would imagine knowing someone does help, but if the factory rep interferes like mine did, then the dealer's hands are tied because they won't be reimbursed by Chrysler. I had to call Auburn Hills several times to get help because of the factory rep's interference into something that had NOTHING to do with him!
Good luck. Keep us informed.
fastdriver
Just an idea.
Rick
The blue beauty is doing great! 33K, a new set of tires (Pirelli's) HAD to get rid of the GY's which WERE the cause of my shimmy. I did have a defective tire, but DC refused to acknowledge it, saying I had to have hit a curb. DC/GY, take your tires and... well you know.
I'm in the market for a car cover. Don't want to spend a mint, but don't want a cheap and cheerful model either. Does anyone have a recommendation of where (online would be fine) I can buy a good one??
I'm glad to see many die hard's here!! It's good to be back.
If anyone's interested in seeing my recent acquisition, a 1961 Cadillac Coupe deVille "weekend car", let me know!
http://www.ritchiefamily.com/sdmeet.htm
Check http://www.chrysler-parts.com/PP.asp?PID=48 for the cover. $186 and made for the M.
http://www.chrysler-parts.com/PP.asp?PID=15
This year, featured were Christine, a Dusenberg Phaeton, a '69 Shelby GT 350 RAM-Air 4-speed, one of 27 built, a 1961 Chrysler 300, the General Lee (from Dukes of Hazzard), and an Olds 440 of some importance.
I also have one more pic of Christine (side view) that I forgot I had. Coming soon!
Update: All the Chicago Auto Show pix I have are at: http://www.yow.com/CAS2002/
(hope this works!)
-m
Another thing I saw today which kinda made me chuckle...the Acura dealer which always showcases their CL's and TL's, had sitting in the "place of honor" (a raised round deck that is the main focal point from the road) --- a dark green 2000 300M!
oh..on your last comment about the acura dealer...I bet that tore fastdriver's heart out.
Any luck carding that custom M?
http://www.yow.com/CAS2002/full-size/DSC00882.JPG
http://www.yow.com/CAS2002/full-size/DSC00881.JPG
Re: the markups I check out a PT last time I was at the dealer that had 18" custom wheels and low profile Kumho's on and they were upping the cost by $1,800 (not too bad).
Fastdriver -- I'll beat ya to it...you might say sometime traded the M in on a superior TL or CL and the dealer just wants to hurry it off the lot. But, don't most dealers get their used cars at auctions?
I'm changing my answer. I really don't know.
Anyway, there are a bunch of LIVE CAMERAS that you can control at the auto show. www.chicagoautoshow.com
And you can get a close-up of that car as well..
-m