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  • laurakatlaurakat Posts: 69
    We used Lametry's on our '95 Camry a few years back to repair door damage caused by some guy in a Tahoe who backed into my wife in a parking lot. They did a good job.

    I feel your pain in regards to parking lot incidents. When I had my brand new '99 626, I was so paranoid about getting my first parking lot ding, I would drive my wife nuts by parking waaaay out at the end of every parking lot to avoid other cars. If I buy the Pro, I'll become paranoid once again.

    By the way, I test drove another LX 2.0 5-spd at Walser's in Burnsville. It was a beautiful black one. I got to take it out without the salesman, since I had my wife and two daughters with me. I quess he didn't want to sqeeze in back with a couple of little kids!!

    Good luck with repairing your car.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    I haven't decided if I'm going to get those parts yet, but those parts are available. Hopefully, Mazdaspeed releases even more parts!!!
  • yooper53yooper53 Posts: 286
    Broadform collision costs a little more but if damage to your car is not your fault (in your case, and mine-parking lot hit and run)you don't pay the deductible. Its worth the little extra they charge for it. As far as the police go, it was a property damage accident so they have to look at the damage and fill out a police report. I did this on a rental in Oceanside,CA in '97. Any more ?'s e-mail me if you like and I can give you my phone #.
  • yooper53yooper53 Posts: 286
    Glad to hear I'm not the only one to park waaay out in the boonies to avoid inconsiderate a**holes. Just good sense.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    are now a felony in Virginia, thanks to the latest General Assembly. I'd be out there looking for a car with some of my paint on it ... !

  • It's very hard to find a 5-speed ES here in the Detroit area, but LX2.0 5-speeds seem plentiful. What's the primary differences between the two models?

  • Anyone know when the 2002 Pros are due out? Any word on pricing?
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    @$% who messed you up, will surely get theirs, and someday, you will have something nice return to you in compensation for this piece of bad karma! Keep your chin up, call your insurance company, get the repair job scheduled and put this behind you, as quickly as possible. You will feel much better. :-)

  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Newcar, you think you are mad about getting hit in a parking lot? I came out when my 2001 Protege ES was 3 WEEKS old with 1900 miles on it, and someone had scratched down the side of the bumper and left it that way. It was parked right in front of my house, too. I had to pay the $250 deductible, as I don't think they have that hit and run coverage here in Maryland. Anyway, I have also had people around my house scratch my car, and just found out the other day someone scalloped the paint off the right rear side of it. Some people are just plain igorant.

    BTW, Newcar, I took my Protege to a Mazda dealership and got it repaired. The car looked just like new when I got it back a week later.
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008

    why is the filter on the ES the size of a tuna can?

    it looks so small. Can it really last 7500 miles of filtration as the owners manual claims?
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,329
    I too think the oil filter looks rather puny.

    I ordered a dozen oil filters for my 99LX and I got filters that are roughly half as tall as the one that came on the car.

    I have to say the oil looks rather dark (even with a full synthetic) by the time 7500 miles rolls around. Are there two sizes of oil filters for the Pro engines? If so, what's the PN for the higher-capacity one?
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    Vocus, I know how you felt. For me, it was a sinking feeling in my stomach. I like the idea of a hit and run being a felony. That should be a federal law. Mazdafun- I use Motorcraft filters for my car. The number is FL-816. They are bigger than the Mazda filter. Purolator Pure 1 filters are supposed to be the best, but they don't make them for our cars. The Motorcraft filters ARE Purolator Pure 1 filters with a Motorcraft casing though. Ford Parts has them in stock.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,329
    A pox on the fiend. >:(

    I was rather upset when someone caused a multiple rear-end collision at a stop light that damaged my Pro. The Audi A4 driver was a little too aggressive about getting into the stopped traffic and caused major damage to a Pontiac LeMans (the small one from Daewoo, rear totally crushed), front & rear bumper damage to a Ford Escort ZX2 (only a few months older than my 99LX) and the rear bumper on my 99LX.

    Too bad for the LeMans owner. Looked like he kept it in really good condition, and I'm sure he didn't get much for it. It'd be really hard to find a decent vehicle for what he probably got.

    I was pretty TO'd, especially since my baby was just over a year old at the time. Lucky I only had to replace the rear bumper energy-absorber and repair the fascia. I wonder if my water leak has anything to do with the accident?

    The A4 was not in bad shape for all the damage it did. Carelessness on the driver's part, IMO. She should have had her license suspended until she completed a full driving course and exam.

    I'm fully in support of annual or bi-annual driving-competency tests for EVERYONE. The level of testing that currently exists is a joke.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,329
    I'll start using those instead of the "half-pints." :)
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Posts: 1,007
    I too have the effects of a hit-and-run to show on my front bumper, and haven't repaired it yet, because my deductible is 500 and the repair estimate is in the 550-600 range.

    Get the repair done, and start parking defensively - that's what I do now :-)
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    Purolator Pure one : PL14622

    who makes MAZDA OEM oil filter / Airfilter?
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    When I park in shopping centers I, too, go waaay out, but that doesn't seem to stop others from parking next to my car. When I get out at some locations I make a note of the make,model, and license numbers of cars on either side. A PDA would be very useful for this, such as Palm Pilot, or a small digital camera you can carry in your pocket. The latter would give you photo proof.

    There are those who resent people driving new cars when they can't afford one. At one mall I saw a new Acura Legend the owner had parked waaaay away from other cars. A family in an old Ford van pulled up next to the Acura. The kids in the back threw the side doors open as hard as they could and put a big dent in the Acura's door. Then they drove off to a parking space closer in.(The van had swing-out doors rather than sliding doors)

    I got their license number and put a note on the Acura windshield that I had witnessed what happened and would testify if needed. Was never called.

    Women will throw their door open and reach for their purses with no thought to the damage the door is doing. One woman hit my car like that and I gave her a good verbal lecture in no uncertain words, she was crying when she drove off. :D

    Don't park near big cars, especially driven by over-weight women.

  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Oil Filters


    Be carefull with that info. Most OEMs provide their own specs for the manufacturers to make. The parts sold in the aftermarket can vary from the OEM spec.

  • I am a picky parker. I park way out, usually at the end of the parking strip where there is either a curb or a portion of striped lines so I can park halfway in the space and halfway on the lines. I drive both my fiance and other passengers crazy sometimes looking for the perfect space but it's worked. I very rarely get a door ding.

    I've also learned to park next to as new/nice of a car as possible if you have no other choice than to park next to somebody. They will usually care more about their car and they know that they wouldn't want dings in their cars so they might be a little more respectful of your property.
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    #3662 Where has Hkhan been? by maltb Aug 10, 2001 (01:27 pm)
    "did I get that right?
    He hunted forever, got his Pro, and then split... "

    No. That's hkchan. Just didn't have the time. Of course, once I came back, I was relieved to see everyone's still here and nothing's changed.

    Vocus (not necessarily in chronological order),
    loved his old Pro,
    loved a Bonneville more,
    bought a new Pro instead,
    loved it,
    loved it several dozen more times,
    had problems with the Pro,
    regretted the purchase,
    problems fixed,
    expressed more love,
    had problems again,
    regretted the purchase,
    problems fixed,
    expressed more love,
    wanted to add all kinds of accessories every thirty days,
    wanted to trade it for a P5,
    loved the car's color,
    wanted to repaint the six-month-old car so that six months from now when he gets another new car, he'll get more on the trade-in.

    BTW, maltb, someone i know may need your help, if you're available, to locate a Pro.
  • shriqueshrique Posts: 338
    If anyone is considering buying a Mazda in the Twin Cities, go to Morries Mazda. After touring many dealerships (test driving is a hobby) I found that along with Sears Imported Auto (BMW, MB etc) they have the best customer service in the cities. I've personally purchased 2 cars there and I'm well on my way to pulling the trigger on one more. A typical experience there is: They bring the car to you, NO SALESMAN on the test drive and they don't pressure you. They are the biggest mazda dealer in the upper midwest so I'm sure they can wheel and deal to get the sale.

    If anyone wants to know who I used at the dealership just let me know I'll give you the name.

    Sorry about the gushing there. It's just that when you find a dealership that doesn't treat you like crud you like to tell people because it's a rare occurance.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Okay, why does everyone have to pick on me for?? :)

    I just got my tints done on Saturday, and they look pretty good. Only thing is, I can't roll down any of the windows until tomorrow evening. Saturday, I am going to have the fog lights rewired for like $20 or something. Once I get the lights done, I am going to get a friend of mine (who is a photographer) to do some nice pics of the car.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    glad to see you didn't wrap your Pro around a pole or anything. No prob if your friend needs assistance.

    Take care,
  • laurakatlaurakat Posts: 69
    I bought my 626 from Morries. I must admit, the service was good. The service department was friendly, but they could never fix my subtle hesitation problem. The sales woman did ride with us on the test drive, which I didn't mind because she was very cute (I had to refrain from staring too much at her in the rear view mirror since my wife was in the passenger seat...LOL). I'd buy from there again, but it is a bit of a drive to get there (I live in the southern suburbs). So far, I like Walser's in Burnsville, although I haven't started the negotiation process yet. If I can't get a good deal there, I'll zip up to Morries and see what kind of a deal I can squeeze out of them.
  • magillamagilla Posts: 75
    I should know this, but I guess I'm looking for you dudes in the know to tell me if I'm right or not. The only differences in the ES and LX (2.0) are cosmetic (w/the exception of the size of wheel), correct? I looked everywhere and cannot find any difference in sway bar size, gear ratio, etc. If that's true, then the value of the year must be the LX 2.0 with free alloys and roof with 0.0%. How could you go wrong? Someone slap me if I'm wrong. Thanks.
  • edmund2460edmund2460 Posts: 293
    Maybe that's one of the reasons I couldn't find the darn thing (it's so small). Just kidding, I know you have to get under the car to get to it. Just wanted to say that I think the 4 cyl Camry has a small oil filter too, if I remember, from a visit to the dealer. It's very easy to get to, if I remember. The smallest oil filter I've seen is on the Ford Aspire which takes 3.5 Q.
  • edmund2460edmund2460 Posts: 293
    I'm getting paranoid now that some 3 of you had parking lot accidents. I drive my old car to work when I feel it's going to rain, that's how paranoid I've become. Does anyone know whether the 2001 ES rear bumper 5 mile per hour damage has been lessened by redesign. If I recall the 2000 was marked down for excessive damages by the Insurance Inst.
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    No, it was the 1999 Protege that had the sub-par bumper, the first year of the current Protege re-design. However, the 2000 and 2001 vintage Protege's have a re-engineered rear bumper, that has been upgraded and rated acceptable.

  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    I know that at the very least the ES has 4 wheel disc brakes (w/ the GT pkg) that you can't get on the LX. Also, I'm not sure about the US, but here in Canada, we can't get power windows on the LX model.
    There are also differences in the seats. The ES driver seat is height adjustable, whereas the LX is not. Also, like you said, the wheels on the ES are bigger than the LX (w/ the GT pkg)and on the front of the LX there is a strip of chrome that is body color on the ES.
    The ES also has fog lights, white guages, and upgraded upholstery.
    The side mirrors on the ES are electronically controlled and on the LX they are manual.
    The power locks are standard on the ES but are an option on the LX.
    The ABS on the LX does not have to be bought as part of a package, but if you want ABS on the ES you have to get the GT package.
    In terms of suspension and ride issues, I'm not too sure....Some of the others should be able to fill that part in.
    Oh, and if I'm wrong (which wouldn't be the first time)somebody please let me know so I don't look like a complete fool! :)


  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    ...taken with the windows up so we can see the new tints! LOL. Now, they will think you are one of those guys the cops keep an eye on.

    Why can't you lower the windows, is the stuff glued on? I have always wondered if it prevented lowering the windows if it is thick.

    Actually, I have thought about getting tinted windows, but it would defeat one of the reasons I bought the Protegé...great visibility all-around for parking and in tight spots where it's difficult to turn. I'm almost blind, in one eye, so I need big bright windows.

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