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Oops, not on topic. Um, that should happen at the Protege picnic, where folks who own these awesome Proteges will gather. Them Proteges is great. Some people even buy two!
I have a disadvantage now, because I could have outrun you all in the Jetta 1.8T. The Beetle is a 2.slow, and can barely get out of its own way.
You all talked before about the power dying with the AC on. I was driving last night going like 30mph with the pedal level on level ground. I switched on the AC, and I could feel the engine laboring, and that was going pretty slow on a flat surface! I need my 1.8T!
Ooops, make that five posts.
;-)
Meade
Meade
Em
I don't know anything about older Tercels though...engine, reliabilty...nothing.
Travelling West on I-66:
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exit 13 (Linden/Front Royal),
US Rt 55 West into Front Royal,
3rd traffic light inside town, left onto US Rt 340 South,
State Park is ~ 8 miles south of town, on the right
Travelling East on I-66:
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Exit 6 to Front Royal,
US Rt 340 South into Front Royal,
Stay on same, through Front Royal (remember to wave at Protege people turning left onto Front Royal arriving from the East!)
State Park is ~ 8 miles south of town, on the right
Travelling North or South on I-81:
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Take I-66 East and follow above directions
Meade
Yeah, but she would probably just spill it on the floor mat!
(Wouldn't ya know it, Yahoo just went down -- so I can't change the home page info for the weekend. Oh well!)
See many of you tomorrow!
Meade
Also, if your parents are willing to kick in a certain amount, you could always attempt to augment it with your own funds.
My Mazda dealer appears to recommend a reasonable maintenance schedule, and close to reasonable prices, see:
http://www.indymall.com/business/roush/mz-maint-form.htm
For "severe service" I suppose the oil/filter change interval should be changed to 3,000 miles.
I am in doubt about his 15, 45 and 75,000 mile service called "Adjust thrust angle" (in regard to wheel alignment). Has anyone seen this service recommended before?
http://www.properautocare.com/autobahnmirror.html
If it does what it claims to it would well be worth the cost, but does it work?
Another good choice might be the Mazda-designed Ford Festiva. I had a 1993 GL (same as an LX) model with A/C and 5 speed that ran like a gem. Every so often you can find one in reasonably good shape for under $ 3000. It is not uncommon to talk to a Festiva owner who has over 200,000 miles on the odometer...just a suggestion
-Larry
Yeah, those could run forever (just like the 323), unlike that little Expire, I mean Aspire, that they replaced it with.
Man, wish I could've made it to MAPP. I'm looking for some comp time after this week is over!
How far is it to Toronto, dinu01 said it is a 15 hour drive to Front Royal. That's the long way of course. From Calgary you would drive to
the mid-west US, say Chicago, and then across Ohio into West Virginia and east into northern Virginia.
The easiest way to plan a long trip is to draw a straight line on a map from your starting point to your destination, then take the highways and other roads that are closest to the line.
fowler3
$ 7,800 new back in 1993--it was the top-of-the line model sans automatic--the manual was a lot peppier. This Festiva, replaced the 1986 Mazda GT that I had put 160,000 miles or so on. I bought a new Aspire in 1995 (I held on to the Festiva for another year) and felt that it was an okay car for $ 8000 but it had no Mazda parts. I sold the Aspire in 1999 and bought its evil cousin, the Kia Sephia. It was the Kia that turned me back on to Mazda. I went full circle and lost several thousand dollars along the way.
The wife is at work so it's off to troll the Mazda lot...
Those Festivas were fun to drive because they were so light and small. I think there's still quite a following.
The Sephia. Ugh. Funny thing is the Sephia is derived from an older 323 chassis (but their own engine and tranny, I think). Although good for its time, my 323 is definitely much cruder than modern platforms. More body flex and road noise. Still fun to thrash, although I baby it more now (it's my first car).
by Pat HOST
Pat, I was lucky enuf to attend MAPP#1 and MAPP#2 and it rained each of those days! I thought without my presence this year, great weather would be a sure thing, lol!!!
-Larry
after MAPP, Meade, Dale, Ashu, and myself went cruising down(and up) Skyline Drive in Shanondoah Nat'l Park. One word: AWESOME.
a lot of people took a lot of pictures, somebody will eventually post them on the web, so be patient for the pics :-)
I went camping that way when I had an Audi Fox, which had a smaller trunk than the Pro. I crammed in an inflatable rubber boat, life jacket and paddle, small tent, food, ice chest, stove, laterns, radio, and clothing. Nothing in the back seat area.
Should be plenty of space in the Pro, you don't need a boat on the Skyline Drive.
fowler3
In the Panama Canal Zone, where my wife is from, the Protege is still sold as the 323. I will be going there in early July and plan on renting one just for kicks. I rented a Toyota Yaris (Echo) when I was there in 2001.
You are all to correct about the engine in the Kia Sephia--it was all Kia and no Mazda...
Jay Leno actually owns a silver Ford Festiva called a "SHOgun" since it uses a 3.8 L Yamaha Super High Output engine--apparently it is quick...
The meet will be held in Ventura, CA, June 16 at 1:00pm. I have put together a website for everyone with directions, pics, and so forth...
http://www.caliprotegemeet.1hwy.com
I want this to be a huge success!! Malt, I absolutely expect you to be there!! Don't make me drag you other there!! j/k
BTW, the Sephia's engine is built by Kia, but it is based heavily on the Mazda BP series engine found in the 1st and 2nd Gen Protege's as well as the Miata. The Sportage is in the same boat, except it's the old Mazda 2.2L from the B2200 pickups.
-Jerry
Today's Protegé is a much better car, though. It's almost the size of Honda's 1986 Accord, wider in the front, closer to the space in the 1997 Accord. Taller than any of them for more headroom.
Those two Accords were good highway cruisers, but not as much fun to drive as the current Protegé. The 1986 bottomed-out over bumps. With the Pro you have the best of both -- fun to drive and fast highay speedster.
fowler3
That was mindless trash that was posted. I had a reply to that person that I have since deleted since it was no longer necessary.
Again thanks.
Pete
How's that for suspense?
We had a great time! MAPP IV -- September!!!! (Or thereabouts -- stay tuned!)
Meade
I also appreciate everyone's restraint here. In some discussions, he generated a number of responses. There are two problems here - one, responding encourages him to continue (which he did in those discussions) and two, it makes my job all the much more difficult (and slow) because I have that much more to delete. Make sense?
Anyway, that's enough of this, I think I need a shower. ;->
If anyone needs to say anything else about any of this, let's do it off line.
Thanks.
Just kidding. It was a great time had by everyone. Looking forward to coming to MAPP IV. And I will have a different car the next time as well, but it will be my own this time!
-Kaiserhead
http://www.autopia-carport.com/index.php?s=&action=home
For free download of a "detailing" E-book, go to:
http://www.properautocare.com/freguidtodet.html
I am sure that everyone can get something of value from these two sources. I have no personal connection with either web site.
Kaiserhead--I noticed your post in the problem section. I too have had trouble with my 1.6L and engine noise--I would bet my left arm that it's nothing less than a ping--at least with my car.
My 1986 626 GT had a suspension that could be adjusted with the touch of a button. It could be set in "Sport" or "Touring" mode. I had the original shocks when I sold it so I could not tell the difference between the two settings by the time I sold it.
Orlandoguy--I believe that the Festiva has some kind of curse attached to it if you sell it. I traded mine back in 1996 for a new Nissan truck which eventually was bought back by my dealership under the Lemon Law. What are the odds of a Nissan truck being a lemon? I later saw the Festiva in Panama City, Florida and the owner totally destroyed it--man did I make a mistake selling it. To this day I look for a used Festiva for a project car but most have severe body damage...By the way, I was in your neck of the woods two weekends ago to see my brother-in-law graduate from UCF. The owner of the Orland Magic was the guest speaker.
With Protegés we have great visibility in all directions.
fowler3
Had a great time at MAPP, and it was awesome meeting y'all...wish more of you had been able to make it, though.
No, I didn't spill drinks, I didn't leave the plane windows open, and I was able to keep Paul's car out of the river. Rough weekend...I'm all worn out.
But to stay on-topic here, I will say that I couldn't believe how much quieter Meade's Dunlop A2's (hope I got that right; sure I'll hear about it if I didn't) were than my stock Potenzas. REALLY have to consider new tires now...dang.
--Dale
It's that you had to stop talking in order to listen.
;-)
Glad to see you got home safe. We had a great time with you!
(Did you have enough gas after all?)
Meade