Mazda Protegé

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  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I am going to tell them the day that I leave for the trip. I told them I have already put 2000 miles on their loaner in 2 weeks, and they are ok with that. I went out of town the other weekend to NJ and took the Beetle too. They know I put alot of mileage on cars, so they will have to deal with it. It's a loaner car too, not a rental, so there is no mileage limit. It rolls over onto my insurance, so there should not be a problem with taking it out of state. I will call the day before and ask though. If I cannot take it out of state, then they can pay for a rental car or something like that. I am not having it.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    I agree...You should not have to put your life on hold because they have your car. They seem to have been good about things so far though. Hope your luck with them continues.

    BTW, any word on the "rubber treatment"?

    Anybody have any wiper brand recommendations yet????
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    I don't think they'd want you to put a lot of miles on it. It's a loaner car -- they're just losing money on it. If it were a rental car, SOMEBODY would be paying for that mileage, and that money would go toward the upkeep of the car. A dealership's loaner car is usually a loss since there's no money coming from anywhere to maintain it. (That's why my dealer's loaners are nothing to write -- or is that ride? -- home about!!!)

    They may prefer to put you in a rental at their expense, rather than have you rack up all those miles on their loaner car!

    Meade
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    A beetle is nothing to ride home about. :D
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    As far as recommendations go, this might sound odd since I have a broken part right now, but I think I broke it washing the car. The ANCOs I have on the car right now are very well-made-looking arms and blades (got the whole refill instead of just the insert). They look good on the car too, and, most importantly, they clean the windshield well and don't dance across it.


    The blades I have are ANCO 31-series (no, I'm not that anal about blades, but I just found 'em on their website). I got them at Wal-Mart for a good price. I like them so much -- much more substantial than the OEM ones -- that despite the little clip problem, I'll be staying with them. I've been using ANCO blades for about seven years now and this is the first problem I've had with any of their products. They have been around since the beginning of time, after all -- and if you don't recognize the name, you'll probably recognize the logo once you see it:


    http://www.federal-mogul.com/anco/wiper_anco.html


    Meade

  • shriqueshrique Member Posts: 338
    Personally I've had really good luck with the Bosch blades they sell at Target. They are metal and seem very high quality.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    And the blade split on me. I think Bosch makes great bulbs and engine components -- but I think their blades aren't that great. I also don't think their blades take anything but their own refills. And they can be hard to find if you're out on the road somewhere.

    Just my opinion.

    Meade
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    Thanks for the tip. I'll have to check out our Wal-mart and see if they carry those.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    Are Tricos. I had a set of Trico refills once and I couldn't believe how poorly they fit my blades. And they were thin as hell -- the mere force of the wipers' springs on the windshield mashed them down flat.

    Meade
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    Oh...thanks for the heads up on those...I saw those last night in the auto parts store.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    You can't miss the big yellow box.

    BTW, one reason I like the Ancos is because they're not all metal -- the important parts are, but much of the blade is that high-impact nylon stuff. They look great (not shiny) and won't rust or "white out" on you.

    Meade
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    Typos in webpages:
    "Wipers that do not work are dangerous!! At ANCO, you're safety is important to us"
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    ... in Tempe, Arizona, whose page is full of typos (or is that just plain ineptitude), but at least his expert opinion on wiper blades matches mine!


    http://www.salemboysauto.com/auto-parts/wipers.htm


    Meade

  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    The reason why I am not going to mention it to them until I am ready to leave is because I do not want them to try to slop out my car and get it done quickly so I have it to take with me on the trip. I will tell them I am taking the car to Chicago before I do it though. The point is, I have put 2000 miles on the car already and they are ok with it. They should learn to order parts faster if they don't want alot of mileage on their cars. :)
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    The shop foreman was working on my car, and I don't want anyone else touching the project now. The part has not come in yet, and the guy had a death in his family. I think that's why it's taking so long.
  • maltbmaltb Member Posts: 3,572
    I'm in Southern California and I use my wipers all the time for cleaning the windsheild, rarely for rain.

    Meade, Most manufacturers make different grades of blades. Trico is OEM on some vehicles, but it probably wasn't the cheapies you bought. Unless the frame is bent or seized, I would only change the inserts and leave the factory frame there.
  • jbolltjbollt Member Posts: 736
    Here in AZ, the humidity is usually so low, 5% today, that using the wipers on a dry windshield just causes minute arching scratches from airborn dust and small sand particles. We don't even get morning "dew" here. I am occasionally clumsy, and will hit the wiper stalk with my hand by accident, and just cringe while it wipes the dry glass. About the only time I use wipers when it is not raining, is if I remember to test them while I am washing the car, with fresh water from the hose.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    This just keeps getting better and better! The rain chance for Saturday has now dropped from 30 percent to 10 percent!

    Woo-hoo! Finally a MAPP without a bad forecast! (Hang in there, forecast, HANG IN THERE!!!)

    I'm gone. See you guys tomorrow at MAPP - 1 Day!

    Meade
  • maltbmaltb Member Posts: 3,572
    you mean the Proteges in AZ don't come with washer squirters?

    :)
  • jbolltjbollt Member Posts: 736
    ROFL.....the water in the reservoirs evaporate faster than you can fill them! LOL
  • alternatoralternator Member Posts: 629
    Cavalier wiper blades from 1995 to 2002 are 22" driver, 17" passenger. These in-between sizes used to be difficult to find (Pro's 21" & 19" included), but not so much anymore.

    I usually find, on sale, the complete wipers at about the same price as replacement inserts.
  • kaiserheadkaiserhead Member Posts: 166
    I replaced the OEM set with some refills, they lasted for about three months until I was driving back from Key West in the rain and the refill came out of the housing and flew off the car, seeing the metal housing scrape across the glass was an interesting sight.

    From them on its strictly full replacement of the blade and housing for me, $20 for a set of Boschs is the way to go in my opinion.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    Just checked the NWS forecast for Front Royal. This looks just like MAPP I! But the temperature isn't going to be the wonderful warmth I was hoping for. Here 'tis for those of us who are planning a little drive tomorrow:

    Tonight. Occasional showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the upper 40s. North winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.

    Saturday. A chance of showers until mid-morning. Otherwise decreasing clouds. Much cooler with highs in the upper 50s. North winds around 15 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.

    Saturday night. Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 30s.

    Oh well, I spent a couple hours giving both Pros a final detailing last night. Looks like they won't be arriving in pristine condition though! So what else is new -- three MAPPs and I can't schedule one completely dry one!

    Meade
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Can you email me directions to the place? I would appreciate it, as I don't have the ones from the first MAPP available.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    There's a map on the Yahoo group --> Photos --> MAPP III folder. Can you get it from there?

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    Damn it Yahoo! They recently imposed a maximum image size on photos and reduced the resolution of that map to the point that it's hardly readable!

    It's pretty simple, really --

    Just get on I-66 West from D.C. and stay on it until you get to Front Royal, Virginia. I *think* it's about an hour or so? Maybe a tad longer? Anyway, the main drag going through Front Royal is Route 340. You'll want to head south on Route 340 and go through the town. The park is well-marked and about 5-6 miles south of Front Royal on 340.

    Meade
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    I prefer the slimmer metal blades, Bosch or Anco. They're less likely to be blown away from the windshield and skip than the plastic blades from Anco.

    The specific models are Bosch Microedge or Microedge Excel, Anco Aerovantage. I've liked them all.

    Stay away from Trico. Terrible designs. The rubber wiper isn't pressed down evenly over its length so you're left with big, wide streaks.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    That is what I was going to say about the map. You cannot read it hardly. So I take 340 South from 66? I know it's about an hour or so for me, because I remember driving it before.
  • emnightingaleemnightingale Member Posts: 2
    Hi, does anyone know anything about the 1991 Mazda Protege? I found one for sale in local classifieds, but I've had car problems with all of the cars I've ever driven and I just want to get ONE CAR that doesn't need to be fixed every couple months. But I've heard great things about the Protege and this one is in my price range. Is there anything specific I should ask about if I go take a look at it?

    I've never bought a car before and I think I probably have sucker written all over me.

    Em
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    There are definitely some things that you will want to check out:

    1) See if you can get a complete maintenence history (ie. oil changes, belt changes, etc.)

    2) Check to see if the vehicle has been in an accident. Look first for obvious signs (ie. many paint scratches in one area, misaligned panels, etc.) Also, if you can get the VIN, then you can run it thru a company like Carfax to get a complete history of the vehicle (ie. if any insurance claims have been made for accidents).

    3) If the vehicle is a manual, start it up and then stall it. The vehicle should then start up without any trouble. If it doesn't start right away, this could be a sign of impending troubles.

    4) Check for any sort of fluid leak. If you can see where the car usually gets parked, you'll easily be able to see any signs of fluid leaks on the ground. Also, check the engine bay for any leaks.

    5) While in the engine bay, check for belts. Are they still good or are they worn? If the rubber for the belts feels brittle, they may need to be changed soon.

    6) Check the function of accessories (power windows/locks, air conditioner, etc). Do they all work well?

    7) Check the tires. Tread depth ok? Are they worn? Are there any bulges in the side wall? Also check the spare and make sure the jack and other tools to change a flat are there.

    8) Test drive: How does it drive? Any unusual sounds? Is the steering good or is it loose? How is the alignment? Does it pull to one direction?

    There's probably a lot I'm missing, but I hope this was somewhat helpful!
    Good luck!
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    Ask to see service records on the car. You can also check CarFax.com for its history, if it has been in a wreck. Get the VIN number, it's on the top of the dash at the bottom left edge of the windshield. A plate with a long number on it. It's the car's serial number.

    Ask the owner what problems he or she has had in the past. Drive it and listen to the engine for odd sounds. Check under the hood, if the engine and parts are dusty or dirty it probably hasn't been serviced in a while. That isn't all bad. A clean engine could mean the owner cleaned it up to hide
    leaking parts.

    Look at the belts (alternator and A/C) and see if they look worn. Ask if you can have a mechanic check the car over. Check the tires for wear.

    Read Edmunds for more tips on checking cars.

    Get the mileage and tell us what condition the car is in. Maybe we can give you better advice after your test drive. Also, check Ednunds True Market Value for used cars and see what you should pay for a 1991 Protege with the mileage on this car.

    Keep in mind that you may have to spend additional money to bring the car up to basic standards to pass inspection. It may need new tires and you should have the oil and filter changed. Deduct service and parts replacement costs from what the seller is asking to get a fair price.

    You will probably find, that with the cost of the car plus parts replacement, you would be better off with a later model Protegé.

    fowler3
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    Check the underbody for signs of any sections that were repainted or welded. These indicate an accident.

    Uneven tire wear (i.e. just on one side, cupped or scalloped edges etc.) may indicate worn strut cartridges or springs, misaligned wheels. Evenly worn tires just means you'll need new tires.

    Check the A/C and heater function and other electrical systems.

    Make sure all gears in the transmission work. Had someone who got a used Starion (remember those?) and found out afterwards it wouldn't engage its top gear (didn't take it on the freeway so never tried it out).
  • maltbmaltb Member Posts: 3,572
    Take it to a trusted mechanic and have him/her look it over and tell you what glaring problems it has and what they cost to fix. The car will be worn, tired and imperfect and to me running a CarFax seems like overkill.
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    Do you know someone with more experience with cars who would go with you to check the car out? Make notes, write them down. Check the costs of replacement parts and labor, cost of tires, windshield wiper blades, etc. before buying.

    fowler3
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    Even if it costs you a few bucks to get it checked out, it could save you hundreds or thousands in the long run.

    Meade
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    a ten year old car is going to be what you are tired of...endless repairs. You would be much better off buying a late model used Protegé with a low interest rate; than buying a 10 year old car and making expensive repairs -- if you have to use credit cards at high interest rates -- to pay for service and parts.

    Think about a 1997 or later Protegé. And you said it is in classifieds, try AutoTrader.com for a much better selection of used Protegés from a wider area. You can search up to 50 miles from your hometown, and farther away.

    I'll bet you don't buy the 1991 Protegé.

    What is your price range?

    fowler3
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    That's my mindset...before I bought my Pro, I thought about getting an older beater car....but then I got worried about expensive repairs and poor reliability. Also, the financing rates on older cars was worse than on the new car.

    After much deliberation, I decided that a new car was going to be only slightly more expensive than a used one PLUS there was warranty on the new car.

    For my situation it was good to get a new car. However, I understand that we are all in different situations and all have different needs.
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    You guys have a great time and take lots of pictures so we stay-at-homes can enjoy it with you later. :D

    fowler3
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    I did the same thing, spent 3 months looking for a used car and gave up. It was much better buying a new car than buying an older one at high interest rates, i.e. 4.9% on a new car as opposed to 10% on a used one. The lower the interest rate the more of your payment goes towards paying for the car. That really makes payments easy. And the warrenty is everything if you are worried about repair costs.

    This works for those who's "situation" means they buy an entry-level model instead of the car they really want. Think of the entry-level car as a temporary ride until you can move up. There's plenty of time for that ideal car later.

    fowler3
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    I just charged both batteries in my new Sony 5.3-megapixel Image Beast ;-) and I've got two 128mb memory sticks good for more than 200 shots. I'm ready! All that's left is to pick up Dale from the airport at 4:12, pick up the ham biscuits and some ice, go out to dinner, sleep, and ZOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!!!!

    Meade
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I am getting my friend to bring his digital camera, if he remembers. It holds 712 pics. :) Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. :) Just kidding.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    I was wondering about Dale's lack of input today....Forgot she was flying out to MAPP. Wish I could join you all at MAPP...I wonder how long a drive that is from Calgary... :D
  • meinradmeinrad Member Posts: 820
    Do you have one of those Limo guy signs that says Dale on it and you can hold it standing by the baggage claim?
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    I'm sure Meade's cam could hold 712 pics too...it's a matter of the resolution (ie. quality) of the pic that counts.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    The resolution is great on this one. I have used it before to take pics, and they turned out wonderfully. I can't remember the specs of it though.
  • maltbmaltb Member Posts: 3,572
    Sounds like a true Edmunds comparison: "The resolution is great..."
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    You could get 712 high res pics on one cam...unless you had some huge external memory storage!

    Most cams have the ability to change the resolution of the pics that it is going to take. The pics on "regular" settings are nice, but you'll notice a huge difference if you goto the "high res" selection.
  • maltbmaltb Member Posts: 3,572
    you must not have seen these yet: IBM Micro Drive
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    Oh yeah...I've seen em, but I totally forgot about them.

    Ahem..now to get back onto Protege topics ;)

    Anybody know how much the AEM short ram air intake costs? I got a quote of $343 for one yesterday! Seems more than a little steep.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    At 640x480 I can hold 860.

    So be careful what you "nyah" at, Paul.

    This sucker was $995 two weeks ago. No small potatoes camera. It beat out top-line models from Nikon and Olympus. I bought it after a lot of research. My camera can beat up your camera.

    Meade
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