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Mazda Protegé

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  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    the protege engine has been balanced at it's highest torque and hp RPM range, so it's the smooooothest thing you can get at that high speeds!!
    Even I have done 85~90(maybe) and the feeling is :
    "Where the hell has the engine gone? Did I drop it?"

    It's so damned smooth at high RPM(3500~4000).

    Note:
    some car makers tend to balance the engines at lower speeds which gives you the effect of having smoothest engine at city driving conditions..but you know what happens when you hit the highway...shake..shake and rattle....
  • dannygdannyg Posts: 131
    Glad you like the car! Just wondering, what kind of MPG are you getting with your 2000 5sp LX? My mother has a 1999 automatic LX, I got 35MPG in a recent 190-mi trip (about 80% hwy). I'm thinking of picking up a 2001 5sp LX myself this spring...
  • The best I've done is 36 on mostly highway miles. I tend to have a heavy foot so my usual mileage is in the 31-33 range on the highway.

    Does anybody have any info. on when the 5door hatch is coming out? My wife likes the looks of it so we may end up being a 2 Protege family! I'm glad to see Mazda making this move. Hatchbacks are great in my opinion and a Protege with a hatch is the best of both worlds. Peace.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    You should be seeing the 5-door in your dealer this summer. Most makers target one date, but there are usually always holdups.

    :)
  • F.Y.I. the 4 bangers now being used in the European Focus are Ford/Mazda engineered. Most likely at least 50% Mazda. The future for the Protege is to use the Focus chassis and Ford/Mazda engines. I think you were talking about the new Ford 2.3L. Most likely Ford/Mazda engineered. After all, it is the same engine being used in the new Ford and Mazda small pickup turcks (again, Ford Ranger chassis, but Ford/Mazda engines).
  • mpgmanmpgman Posts: 723
    Considering a 01 Protege and possibly the sport wagon. I'd like to hear about mileage for the 2.0 automatic and 5 speed, as I would like to get the ES. Assume this runs on unleaded regular? Also read that 00 Proteges had soft bumpers that Mazda tried to get away with to save weight. These got destroyed in the 5mph test. Word is they were used earlier in the model year and have since been replaced. True? Thanks.
  • Hello Everyone,
    I am about to get a 2001 ES, but I was wondering if anyone can think of a good reason why the Corollas have daytime running lights since atleast the 1999 model, but the Proteges still don't have it.

    I would really appreciate any comments on this.
    Thanks in advance.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Extra bumper reinforcement was added during the 2000MY due to IIHS tests.

    Daytime running lights are required in Canada, so Toyota is probably making it common to save on multiple build specs. Of course, it just turns off those of us who don't care for daytime running lights.
  • My understanding is that by then Mazda will be solely responsible for I-4 engine development at Ford/Mazda. The decision was made in the early fall 00.

    It will be all Mazda engineering.

    Regards,
    Mark.
  • leomortleomort Posts: 451
    about the '04 Proteges. Otherwise I would seriously consider a Honda Civic. The only thing that concnerns me regarding Hondas are that they are expenisve to fix. Is this true?

    Leo
  • Where did you get the pic. of the interior of the MP3??? This interest me, but not alot of info yet.
  • nikecarnikecar Posts: 460
    as with all Japanese cars, they are higher $$$ to fix than a Chevy or domestic car.
  • Does anyone know how the 01' ES handles in the snow? I'm picking mine up Thursday. It has the 195/50R16 all season tires on it. Since these tires are more performance oriented, I wonder if I'll be slip-sliding in the snow a lot. I know that's the problem with my father's Grand Am.

    Of course, snow tires are the best. My Mom's old 323 used to be a horror in the winter. Then she put 4 snow tires on and now it plows through the snow better than an SUV.
  • I got the pictures from www.mazdausamedia.com. You have to be part of the media to view the pictures though - which seems to be pretty stupid to me. You can also get them at www.geocities.com/negatize/media/2001protege/
  • leomortleomort Posts: 451
    but I thought that Honda is typically higher than most of the Japenese brands, no?

    Leo
  • nikecarnikecar Posts: 460
    they are higher in everthing..

    Higher in dealer snob factor, higher in price, more than likely higher in cost repairs.. there's a webpage somewhere that lists the estimated costs over the span of several years.. when I find it, I'll post it.
  • leomortleomort Posts: 451
    thanks, I'd appreciate it.

    Leo
  • Just a quick question..... I drove my Protege for a few feet with the brake up....do you think I damadged it?... hope not. I also wanted to know if any one has noticed a slight jerk when backing up. It will do it if I put the car in "R" and back up without wating a few seconds.
  • nikecarnikecar Posts: 460
    you can go to Cars.com and click on one of the tabs on the top titled RESEACH A CAR. enter the info and you can get estimated costs of ownership for most newer cars.
  • I have fueled up my 01 ES three times. I've gone about 300 miles between fuel-ups, and gotten between 24 and 29 mpg. That's a mix of city and Highway. I'm fairly heavy on the gas. I just can't help myself :) I keep trying to go faster and faster around on/off ramps to max out the cornering, and it's tough to even make the tires squeal! I have to bolt all my belongings down to even accomplish that feat! Wow, it's been a great 1000 miles. (I took a picture of the odometer yesterday at the 1000 mile mark) I’ve had the car since Jan 10.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    No, a few feet won't damage it. It's comparable to stopping the car, so no sweat.

    The jerk is from not letting the car shift completely into reverse before you apply the throttle. Zoom Zoom does not apply in reverse, so stay the patient course.
  • Hi all --

    I've been too busy to be reading edmunds, but I want to give you an update on my 2000 Protege' ES. I have had it for 15 months and have 18K on it. Had to have the differential replaced, but of course it was under warranty. Car's been fine since then -- I love it! I am a little timid to be a ZOOMer but I do like taking the ramps at speed :)

    My only concern is possibly declining fuel economy. I'm down to about 26 mpg now; when the car was new I was getting 28-29, and around 31 for _purely_ highway driving. Does anyone have any ideas about why it's declined?
  • Thanks MALTB.. I did not think that driving even a mile would hurt it...I also tought that the jerk was from my hurry to go. I think I just need to take it easy .
  • I just waxed my protege ( on sunday ) and it looks great. I bought the good stuff ( zymol ). I paid $11.99 for it, but it works great. It leaves a good shine. Has anyone else used this stuff?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Looks like we made the top of the 10 most popular discussions here on Edmund's for the second time this week. Cool!!

    Zoom, Zoom, Zoom...
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Where you live might have a lot to do with your declining gas mileage. Here's why ...

    I noticed the same thing ... I bought my 2000 ES 5-speed last May, and all spring, summer and fall I was getting about 29-31 mpg in mixed highway and city driving. Then, once November or so rolled around, I noticed a decline to about 25-27 mpg. I complained here, and someone else told me that in a number of states (especially in the Northeast, but also here in Virginia) they use reformulated gasoline in the wintertime to cut down on emissions. When springtime rolls around, the gas formulation should go back to normal and our gas mileage with it.

    I hope I'm conveying this correctly -- if I'm full of it, someone please jump in and correct or explain it better!

    I have noticed that my Protege doesn't zoom quite as much with this different gas, btw, so I think there's some truth to all of this. I think some of the gasoline dealers are using one formula and others a different one, too, because I get VERY bad gas mileage with Amoco gas, but good mileage (like 3-5 mpg better) using Citgo. Weird, huh?

    Do keep in mind, especially if you live in northern climes, that you may tend to use your defroster a lot more in the winter -- which uses your a/c compressor, which makes your engine work harder and cuts down your gas mileage!

    Meade
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I noticed that my gas mileage in both cars (Bonneville and Protege) drops considerably when using Amoco gas. It must be something in the gas that does it. I mean in the Mazda, I lose like 3-5 mpg (like you said) in one tank. Rediculous!

    With the reformulated gas, I notice that the mileage is lower with it too, but not too much. My Protege still averages about 26 mpg no matter the temperature. Lowest I ever got was idling in 100-degree traffic this past summer, and that was 20 mpg. Hell, that's what my Bonneville AVERAGES on one tank of gas with mostly highway driving! :)
  • nikecarnikecar Posts: 460
    well the 3 times I've measured city on the ES, it was 26.4(dealer fillup), 24.5 (Amoco), 25.5 Mobil.

    highway from our last trip was about 29MPG, and coming back about 28. but we had 4 people and loaded trunk. plus I didn't use the cruise, too much fun punching it up to 100MPH!!!
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I punch my Protege up to 70-80 mph in my daily commute (Capital Beltway, DC) and it has this pronounced "shake" around 75 or so. It gets worse as I increase the speed too. I have had the wheels balanced, checked for their tire pressure, the brakes checked, and the front end aligned. It still does it. What could it be? Also, the car's never been in a serious accident to warrant body repair. I just don't get it.
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    Who did the tire balance, brakes and wheel alignment? So it just started recently?
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