Any 1999 F-250 owners?

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  • mroffshoremroffshore Member Posts: 148
    Hey Richflynn, I forgot to ask. Are synthetic oils worth using in a diesel application?I never used them in my gas engines but I was always curious if they were worth the extra $ for the expected benifits. Re. prevention of wear and break down of the oil itself. Again I really don't even know if you should use them but I would like to know.

    Thanks Mroffshore
  • drozdroz Member Posts: 30
    Well, I just found out late tonight that my F-250 superduty has supposedly been delivered and I'll pick it up tomorrow. It apparently was supposed to be in April 27 but was delayed due to the railroad problems. But it got here finally and took about 2 months plus was delayed because of an off-road package.
  • richflynnrichflynn Member Posts: 147
    mroffshore,
    I honestly don't know about the synthetic oils. The vehicle manufacturers don't really reccomend them to any degree. How do you get around the maintenance requirements and gain the benefits of using a synthetic?

    I do know that in a diesel (due to the high compression) that contamination is the real reason for an oil change. It doesn't take very long before the oil starts turing black from the carbon & soot that gets blown by the rings due to the higher compression. I really don't want to go much past 5,000 miles before changing oil, real or synthetic.

    I think the real solution would be a auxillary filter system with its own circulation pump. Something fine enough to filter out the fine carbon particles. Hummmmm, maybe there's a product development project here????
  • mroffshoremroffshore Member Posts: 148
    richflynn, thanks I knew you would get back to me sonner or later. I just aked because there was a sale on the oil and I always assumed it had a greater life beyond a conventioal motor oil.

    I still have not recieved my new truck, it was due in on the 11th then the 15th and now who knows. I guess other then the fact I'm driving an old ford ranger, 85 with out air that my brother inlaw lent me, I can wait. I could not believe how fast my 89 f-150 xlt 4x4 sold. I was also amazed how well the value held. I got $6,700 for the truck with 88,000 miles on it. I took the money so I did not have to get into ads and all the phone calls etc. Take care and thanks Mroffshore
  • mroffshoremroffshore Member Posts: 148
    richflynn, I forgot to mention, My wife drives a 95 windstar mini van. At 58,000 easy miles the head gasket blew. I called the dealer they said they could not do any thing unless I had 50,000 miles. It cost me about $900.00 PLUS TAX at a friends garage and it's back on the road. Luckly the head was not cracked. I called Ford and thy claim they can't do anything. From what I gather after reading the van post's this is common across the country and it seems there is a defect that Ford is either ignoring or does not want to deal with financially. I filed a complaint with the N.T.S.A. and that's where it stands.

    I was just curious if you had any thoughts on my situation. I realize this site is for trucks but there does not seem to be anyone on the van site with alot of tech. knowlege.
    Mroffshore
  • pworangepworange Member Posts: 57
    I just ordered a F250, diesel, with everything but the roof lights. In reveiwing the msgs I see a lot of people who ordered in early April. Any updates on how long it takes until delivery? I'm told production is on hold awaiting the electronic shift on the fly. I ordered on May 4th will I see it this year?
  • mroffshoremroffshore Member Posts: 148
    pworange, I don't know how long it will take but I do know I have been waiting for my f250 crew diesel with everything but the roof lights since the first week or so of Feb., maybe the 10th. The funny thing is my dealer sells alot of trucks for being in south Jersey. So I assume he has a good allocation coming. My crew cab will be the first for his dealership so who knows! Good luck!
    Mroffshore
  • jim2jim2 Member Posts: 43
    mrwonderful:

    There is a fuel mileage section at this web site which should answer your questions on fuel mileage for the Ford V8 and V10.

    The V10 has not been out long enough to get a good feel for fuel mileage. The 5.4L V8 has been out in the Expedition and F250 light duty for a while. The people I have talked with that own the 5.4 L V8 have been disappointed with their fuel mileage in the pickups and Expedition. City driving gets them about 10-12 MPG, worse if they drive very hard. The V10 owners who do city driving are getting 9.5 to 10 MPG. No freeway driving MPG figures yet from the people I have talked to but I expect they will get 12-14.

    Owner satisfaction is the best indicator of good fuel mileage I have found to date. Chevy pickup owners with the Vortec 350 are very happy with their mileage as are Dodge Cummins owners. Those are the happiest gas and diesel owners I have talked to to date.

    Dodge owners with the 360 gas engine are the most disappointed with their fuel mileage and Ford 5.4L owners are a close second. Chevy Diesel owners seem non existant and I have never talked to anyone who owns one. Chevy owners with the 454 vortec gas are also happy with their mileage in this big block engine but they are few in number. I would be interested in seeing a shoot out between the Dodge V10, Ford V10 and Chevy 454 but I haven't seen one yet.
  • richflynnrichflynn Member Posts: 147
    mroffshore,
    I've been busy lately. A lot of do-do from work.

    On the head gasket thing... I had a similar problem on a Datsun 310. In 90,000 miles I replaced it twice and less than a month after I sold it it went again.

    The only good thing was that when the head is off, it is necessary to surface grind (a.k.a. Mill in hod rod terms.) the head(s). This gives higher compression and more horse power. The machine shop usually only charges to mill the heads and not by how much they take off. When you do it, tell them to take off as much as possible. You'll notice the extra pep and power. If it lasts another 40-45 K miles you'll have traded by then.

    Rich
  • mroffshoremroffshore Member Posts: 148
    Richflynn, thanks again! I did have the heads milled and it's running great, but there is no way that should have happened with only 58,000 miles. I'll just wait to see what happens as far as getting Ford to help out.

    I have a post for you and Brutus on the delivery site. Don't work too hard and have a good holiday weekend!
    Mroffshore!
  • mroffshoremroffshore Member Posts: 148
    Richflynn or anyone else who can help, I forgot to ask. Do you know of any accessory company that is now manufacturing bug shields for the 99 trucks? I asked the dealer to order me one last week. Ford is making them but he called me yesterday just in time for bug season to tell me they are on hold for defective reasons. Thats all the parts dept. manager knew. He said it may be 4-8 weeks before they get any in through Ford. Darn, even the bug shield production is now being held up, what is this truck world coming to! I called parts America and they said they did not have anything yet for the 99's, any help out there?

    Mroffshore
  • mroffshoremroffshore Member Posts: 148
    Richflynn or anyone else who can help, I forgot to ask. Do you know of any accessory company that is now manufacturing bug shields for the 99 trucks? I asked the dealer to order me one last week. Ford is making them but he called me yesterday just in time for bug season to tell me they are on hold for defective reasons. Thats all the parts dept. manager knew. He said it may be 4-8 weeks before they get any in through Ford. Darn, even the bug shield production is now being held up, what is this truck world coming to! I called parts America and they said they did not have anything yet for the 99's, any help out there?

    Mroffshore
  • richflynnrichflynn Member Posts: 147
    mroffshore,
    I been looking also. We got a catalog from Performance Accessories in Van Nuys, CA. (LA's San Fernando valley) They have bug shields but NOT for the '99 yet. I was going to call them and bug them for a '99 model.

    If I have positive results I'll post.
  • fredburwellfredburwell Member Posts: 4
    I'm thinking about buying a new Ford F-250 crew cab truck. I test drove one with a 7.3 diesel engine and I was very impressed. If anyone is currently driving this vehicle, please let me know what you think.
  • richflynnrichflynn Member Posts: 147
    Truck man,
    I don't have the crew cab, just the super cab.

    This vehicle is an absolute delight! Today I startled myself with the throttle response. I only pressed about half of the way down and WOW! A real kick in the pants!

    Every one loves the 4 doors. Adults will sit in the back seat w/o bitching. There's not as much room as in a crew cab but no real complaints for 30-45 minute trips.

    The ride is very smooth! Much much better than my '92 F-250 Super Cab.
  • drozdroz Member Posts: 30
    Rickflynn,
    Do you have the V8 on yours? I am rather disappointed so far in the engine response on
    mine. Also, do you have rust underneath on the driveshaft etc. I love the ride but a few other things bother me. How come they didn't bother to put a power window lock on the driver's side? My dog nearly cut his head off closing the passenger side window himself.
  • curiousercuriouser Member Posts: 12
    Just stoped in here to see what the word is about the new 99 f250. I too am about to order a f250 4X4 crew cab diesel auto. I have owned two Chevy Suburban diesel 4X4s. The first was a 6.2 gutless disapointment. The second is a 6.5 turbo which is better. They both had auto's and I got 16 and 15mpg respectively on the road.

    The reason I wrote is because of comments about cold climates and diesel engines. Here in
    Fairbanks Ak. we experience -50f every winter and I have found that my diesels were less trouble than any gas engine. Tw0 requirements, #2 Fuel must have aditive or be mixed w/ #1 to insure that wax wont separate and plug the lines and filter; and, if you intend to start this engine in sub zero weather you better have a good synthetic oil like the 5/50 or mobile 1. Aleyska
    Pipeline uses Chevy crew cab and suburbans throughout the interior of Alaska. Most if not all are diesel and even with the loss of lubrcation from thinned fuel and thinned oil they seem to get a minimum of 150,000 miles on the worst roads imaginable before rebuild. They dont use synthetic oils but use the lighter oils. Auto transmissions go at about 125,000 miles.

    I am thinking of getting the short box crew cab but have no garage restraints. Any thoughts on the pros and cons of the short box.
  • fredburwellfredburwell Member Posts: 4
    curiouser:
    Test drove the F-350 Lariat, crew cab (LWB), 7.3 diesel on Saturday. It had a Power Take-off option, and power trailer mirrors. I liked the ride as it seemed to hold the road better then the short bed F-250 I tested two weeks ago.
    Any suggestions on whether to use regular or synthetic oil with the 7.3 diesel?
    Has anybody used the Edmund's buying service? Does it really work?
  • edwardwedwardw Member Posts: 2
    What is the Mileage on the F250 Super Duty Extended Cab with 5.4 Liter V-8?
  • curiousercuriouser Member Posts: 12
    Thanks fredburwel!
    I originally settled for the short box but now will get the bigger box since most places I go it will not make any difference. It makes sence that the longer wheel base will ride better.
  • rite3rite3 Member Posts: 69
    fredburwel, curiouser, Are we talking about crew cabs or supercabs here?. I drove the supercab with the shortbox and the V10 with the 4.30 gears in it and it was really uncomfortable as well. I got the F350 cc sb on order monday and I couldnt find the excact truck I ordered to test drive. I did drive the cc lb and the sc sb though. Thanks.
  • ayloraylor Member Posts: 1
    does anyone know if the 1999 f250sd crewcab has any more front leg room than the 97? If not has anyone had the seattracks moved back to increase the legroom?
  • cdeancdean Member Posts: 1,110
    I don't know any numbers. but i'm a pretty tall fellow, so i know my leg room. i recently sat in the back seat of a f250 crew cab and i would say it is quite a bit roomier than the previous models.
  • curiousercuriouser Member Posts: 12
    Was considering a short box crew cab but when i found out that the fuel tank in the 250 cc sb was only 29gal as opposed to 38gal in the long box I went for the long one. Realisticly, what should one of these diesel 250 cc lb trucks get for milage on the road w/out a big load. I can't seem to get more than 16 mpg out of my diesel suburban on the road.
  • mharde2mharde2 Member Posts: 278
    Brutus, I saw a white 99 crew cab 4x4 on Dallas Pkwy today. That was the best looking one I've seen yet. Looks good in white...
  • richflynnrichflynn Member Posts: 147
    droz,
    I have the 7.3 L turbo diesel.
    I don't know about any rust above the drive shaft. I had the vehicle undercoated and, obviously, I can't see it. The drive shaft may have a little rust on it, but so did my '92 for over 6 years...

    As far as mileage goes on the diesel.
    The entire tank was city driving or slow and go freeway and never more than 60 MPH and then only for a half mile.

    The FIRST tank of fuel gave me 17 MPG! That's better than my wife's '91 Accord!

    NO COMPLAINTS!!!!

    Rich
  • drozdroz Member Posts: 30
    Richflynn,

    I got 12.5 mpg on the first tank, not as impressive as your diesel. I assume you do some towing. I have the Class IV hitch but it turns out I actually need an 8" drop for the draw bar so the trailer doesn't tilt. I am having some difficulty getting one with a 7500 lb. limit. Have you put one on yet?
  • fredburwellfredburwell Member Posts: 4
    rite3:
    I drove the F-350, 7.3 diesel, LWB (172 in), crew cab and I thought it drove better then the SWB (156 in). Also, I wont the 38gal fuel tank that comes with the LWB model.
    richflynn:
    Happy to here that your getting 17MPG in the city with your diesel. Let me know your highway MPG when available.
  • nascar88nascar88 Member Posts: 8
    Finally got our F-250 CC, 12 weeks for delivery. It only has 350 miles on it and 1 tank of gas. We got 17mpg out of it. Can't say enough about this truck, worth every waiting minute. 17 mpg was mainly city and a few commuting miles.
    Went back and forth on the colors, between white and black. I am so glad I went with black, already to many white ones running around town, even if it does get 115 degrees, thats what a/c for anyway
  • nascar88nascar88 Member Posts: 8
    Bad habit I guess, I meant 17mpg on a tank of DIESEL!!!!!!!
  • mroffshoremroffshore Member Posts: 148
    Nascar88,

    Lucky dog, thats just what I have to read after waiting all this time! Good luck! Did you get the long or sort bed? I ordered the long CC and I would be happy as a pig in poop to get the kind of milage I'm hearing.

    Mroffshore
  • nascar88nascar88 Member Posts: 8
    mroffshore,

    I got the shortbed and it even fits in the garage, with a few modifcations (moving dryer).
  • cdeancdean Member Posts: 1,110
    nascar88

    i was curious what rear end you had in your new truck? it sounds like the new powerstrokes are getting a lot better mileage than the previous versions. hard to complain about 17 in big truck like that. i've really only heard one report of bad mileage, but i don't know any details on his driving or rear end.
    by the way, go Jeff Gordon :)

    cdean
  • richflynnrichflynn Member Posts: 147
    droz,
    I ordered the truck with a full tow set up. I don't know why, I have nothing at the moment to tow. The intent is, some day.......

    BTW
    I went to the Angel's game Friday night. My spare was stolen during the game. I strongly advise getting the locking mechanism from you Ford dealer. It seems that this spare carrier is much easier to operate and therefore easier to steal. A real bummer as insurance is $250 deductable.
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    Unbelievable, Rich! Getting the spare out from under my truck was a [non-permissible content removed] when I had a flat. Is it that much easier or did they really know what they were doing? And how do you do that happen at an Angels game? I went to over a dozen games at the Big A last year...er...uh....I, mean Edison whatever it's called now. It always seemed pretty darn safe to me.

    By the way, I still have a good friend in Irvine who goes to many Angels games. The Angels are in town this weekend. I'll probably catch a game or two at The Ballpark here in Arlington. Erstad is my favorite major leaguer and has been since he came up. Eight in a row.....so far. Only 3 out of first (the Rangers beat the Rockies tonight, the Angels were idle).
  • mroffshoremroffshore Member Posts: 148
    Professor Rich,

    Sorry to hear about the theft! Not suprising considering the wicked world we live in!

    I wanted to mention, I think Brutus refered me to the Ford diesel web page some time back and I printed some info out on the earlier cavitation discussion. They recommended an additive called Fleetguard DCA4 for prevention of the cav. problem. My question is where can I purchase this coolant additive and how often do I add it to the coolant system? I do not wish to try and test the coolant every so often but I will if I have to and if I learn how to. From what I read, this seems to be the insurance we need! Talk to me.

    Mroffshore
  • pworangepworange Member Posts: 57
    The F250 SD I ordered with a diesel comes with the high altitude option here in Colorado. My question is what does this option do? What happens if I move from 6 or 7000 feet down to sea level>
  • bigfurbigfur Member Posts: 649
    I live in Minnesota and ahve been looking at a F350 sc lb drw . I was wondering about tabs. A freind of mine says he pays a lot more because its registered as a commercial vehical. This would greatly infuance my decition.
  • pworangepworange Member Posts: 57
    bigfur You will need to check with Minnesota specifically, each state is different. I assume your not talking about sales tax which should be the same for commercial or not. Licensing fees and taxes tied to licensing vary greatly. For example here in Colorado there is only a few dollars difference between, commercial truck plates and "recreational" truck plates. The biggest portion of our licensing is property tax based on a percentage of the Invoice price regardless of wether or not the plates are commercial or recreational. Hopefully you can find someone on line from Minnesota who is aquainted with Minnesota licensing fees.
  • nascar88nascar88 Member Posts: 8
    cdean,

    Sorry it took so long, I was gone for 4 days working. I got the 3.73 rearend, not too much heavy duty towing. Jeff Gordon looked his best, hows that WALL!!!!!!!!! Go Rusty & Dale
  • cdeancdean Member Posts: 1,110
    yeah, yeah, a little dirty drivin wasn't it? i liked rusty until then. we'll see how it goes in october.
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    You could see that coming. Jeff bumped Rusty, got him loose and passed him. Rusty returned the favor. Jeff has done his fair share of similar driving. Earnhart use to be the king of that kind of driving. Maybe he still is, but who can tell when he's racing back in 28th all the time? Hopefully, the crew chief swap with Skinner will help.

    In Texas and Alaska, the tags for my truck cost under $100. In California, they cost around $400, and would probably be closer to $500 on a new truck. I had to have the truck weighed and I had to pay an extra fee related to the weight. I'd recommend calling the DMV in Minnesota and specifically ask them how much it will cost to register the truck.
  • nascar88nascar88 Member Posts: 8
    Brutus,

    The registration on the 250 CC was closer to $900 I think $870 total. The part that gets me is that $27 of that actually goes to the roads and the rest is for food stamps and other social programs. If I didn't have such a good job I would be outta here!!!!!!!!!!
  • nascar88nascar88 Member Posts: 8
    By the way, can anyone tell what happens when you put a check mark next to the post #.
    Haven't been able to figure that one out.......
  • richflynnrichflynn Member Posts: 147
    nascar88,
    Tags for $100!?!?!?!?
    Here in California, try more than 8 times that!

    mroffshore,
    The 'Fleetguard' is an International Harvester (oops, Navistar) product. Any dealer should carry it. Ford offers something different. It's called 'Motocraft coolant additive FW-15'. I don't know the prices, specifications or availability of either product.

    Most truck stops should carry other brands. Next time you stop at a truck plaza for fuel, go inside and wander back into the professional driver's lounge. Just ask for advice. It is probably the best source of information on diesel issues. Usually the truck stops carry a variety of diesel specific products. Their prices, while not the lowest, are usually fair.

    Rich
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    mroffshore,

    If you've ever lived in areas with traffic like CA and Dallas, you will find that everything is an hour away. Tain't that far. Once you get your new truck, it won't be far enough.
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    nascar,

    Did the $870 include the $300 one-time emissions charge or has CA just significantly raised the registration fees? Last year, I paid $387 to register my 92 FD-250HD 4x4 in California. I first registered it in the CA in 93 when I moved there and paid around $450 plus the $300 fee since I had bought it in Alaska without any CA emissions stuff. The registration fee in Alaska was $75 if you went to the DMV to pay it and $65 if you mailed it in. I forget the exact cost I paid here in Texas when I got here in November, but it was under $100. I transferred the title over for about $12.

    The only check mark I know about is the one under the "Post" sign below. If that box is checked, and someone has submitted a post while you were typing yours, you will have the opportunity to read their post and amend yours before posting it.
  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    Mroffshore,

    Regarding the coolant additive, amny Powerstroke owners who are aware of the cavitation potential throw in some fw-15 with each oil change just to make sure there's no loss of protection. Like any other fluid, the additives wear off under heat stress.
  • nascar88nascar88 Member Posts: 8
    Brutus,

    That $870 is based on the value of a vehicle. The truck was purchased in CA :( so the one time emissions does not apply. The tags should go down a few dollars next year. $ 73 a month is was it turns out to be.
  • bigfurbigfur Member Posts: 649
    Sorry about the timing to clear this up(two jobs and schooling), but in MN a one ton is a commercial vehical. I still wonder if i can afford it. hmm . . .
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