GMC Sierra/Chevy Silverado 2500 & 3500 - II

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  • 1i2cu1i2cu Member Posts: 32
    All white HD's come with BLACK wheel flares. I've seen a white HD with the wheel flares painted to match the truck. Looks very sanitary, the black wheel flares stand out like a sore thumb. When my White HD comes in, the wheel flares will be painted to match the truck. With DANA Corp. laying off people, who knows when we'll get our HD's.
  • gordo13gordo13 Member Posts: 20
    In the color option section of the GMC brochure, it has a #2 where it states the black flare color, the #2 refers to available white flares, the duelly in the brochure has them. The dealer I went to said I could order a white GMC HD with white flares. Chevrolet isn't the same?
  • loyalgmcguyloyalgmcguy Member Posts: 64
    I agree with the posts that painted flares look sanitary. I ordered a white truck and have inquired about white flares several times. My dealer insists there are no flare options and only black is available. I also tried to delete the flares and was advised I couldn't. I did note in the 2001 brochure that sometime in mid-year GM will shift to white, but I'm not sure when mid-year is. If the flares are smooth like the 2500 series I'll paint. If they're orange peel texture, I'll replace. With any luck the flares will be white and I'll be saved the trouble and cost of modification.
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    ..Chevy and GMC are not always the same for options....but built in the same places.....figure that one out

    - Tim
  • n75v111n75v111 Member Posts: 243
    Just take the stupid things off and through them away. Just a place to collect salt anyway!!

    75v
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    NO DONT THROW THEM AWAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
  • trw3trw3 Member Posts: 35
    I already have my 2500HD slt Sierra crew cab w/6.0 (loaded w/toys)recieved it Oct.23 It listed out at 38000.00 and W/sup. disc., a 1000.00 loyalty cert. ( because I had waited since Feb. for a 2000 cc that I never got allocation for), and taxes it was 34800.00 out the door. Good luck on your allocation and don't give the reps any slack.
  • jaijayjaijay Member Posts: 162
    I just got my D/A 2500HD and a truck it is. I turned in my '99 1500 Silverado which was a great truck however it does not have the guts to pull my 14000 lbs 5th wheel trailer.

    The Duramax is really impressive and the Allison shifts are flawless. It seems that jumping from the 1500 to the 2500HD was like going from a Tonka truck to a Semi!

    The wait was well worth it.
  • markbuckmarkbuck Member Posts: 1,021
    I want a set of OEM wheels off the 2500HD's! Let me know if you have a set to sell. Gonna run the stock wheels from my HD (still on order) with 235/85-16 studded winter tires. Would love a set of the OEM narrow AL wheels for the summer tires. Probably run LT265/75-16's in the summer, as they are the same height at the LT235/85-16's that would be on the truck for winter use.

    Anybody wanna do a deal?

    Ryan, you should put a better set of wheel's (wider, like 8") on you 1500. Too narrow might be ok for off road use, but I bet your truck corners on the street much worse with your new "too wide" of tires than the stock LT245/75 tires.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    i had stock 265's not 245's.

    The handling with the 285's is much better

    I really like the stock ALUM rims

    Im keeping them

    Ryan
  • trampertramper Member Posts: 12
    I had a similar experience with gmc. Ordered a 2500 Sierra ex. cab L. bed in Jan. 00. Never did get allocation. Oct. 6 I ordered a silverado hd, ex. cab l bed,8.1/all. Still no allocation. Can you give me some info. on how to contact a rep? Any help will be appreciated.
    Tramper
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    ...and wouldn't wanna give 'em up....so perhaps 245's it is for good?

    we will see

    High school is long over....so tires mean a lot less for looks these days to me........kinda.....I mean I'm not totally dead!

    - Tim
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Hey the tires make or break the truck

    To small truck looks wierd

    Ryan
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    look of my old 88 1500 with 265's better than the 2500 with 245's.....but it ain't that bad...

    I'm not 21 any more...and you will find things change when you get older and get a house and begin to carve your future a little deeper...

    yeah.....a 6" suspension lift and 4" body lift with 38" super swampers still appeals to me.....but it's not as important any more...

    understand?

    Oh well....I'll still outhaul your [non-permissible content removed]!

    LOL

    Good Luck on this one now!

    - Tim
  • sf0383sf0383 Member Posts: 204
    I am waiting on a TPW for a 2500HD CrewCab 4X4 with the 6.0 and auto tranny. I ordered Nov. 2. I'll be curious to know what your contact has to say. I was told the 6.0 shouldn't be the hold up.

    As far as the fender flares go, I was thinking that certain colors required black but other colors could be painted. I thought I saw a pewter with painted flares but I know the Indigo blue will come with black. Is it a color choice that drives the fender flare color or 4wd vs 2wd?
  • 4x44x4 Member Posts: 114
    the rest are the black orange peel...i was going to two tone my truck originally but since these orange peel textured flares can't be painted, i gave up on that and just kept them... www.picturetrail.com/4x4
  • trw3trw3 Member Posts: 35
    is Flint,Michigan someone mentioned Canada in a previous post. At least that was for my HD crew.
  • trw3trw3 Member Posts: 35
    I understand your frustration in waiting this long for your new truck.I'm not sure if you are still dealing with the same dealership as you did on the y2k but if you are you need to have the dealership put you in contact with the district rep. (most dealers are very protective of these people and don't want to give out that info but will if you pressure them enough, my dealer was tired of seeing me every week for 6 months and suggested maybe I could get better results than they could,hence a ph.#)Explain quite clearly to them how long you have waited and that you have cash in hand and the new SuperDuty down the road is looking real good. They really hate to hear that.It will probably cost you at least 3or 4 long distance calls to Mich. but you will get some results.I guess you have to play hardball!As a result I got an additonal 1000.00 as a loyalty cert.on top of my supl. disc. It comes to the point you tell them NO MORE EXCUSES!!!!!!Not a very christian way to be but I got results, business is business.
  • trw3trw3 Member Posts: 35
    So what color is your new truck to be? I couldn't clearly tell from the other post. White? I was sure I wouldn't like the flairs either and considered having them painted but was pleasantly surprised when my HD got here. They are a satin color and really don't look that bad, against a black truck anyway. The texture on the flairs is very light and I really do think a couple of coats of a filling primer and flex. additive before painting would result in a smooth finish. Just my opinion, maybe someone has tried it and can pass that info on so others on board will know.
  • mth1mth1 Member Posts: 12
    GM accessories offers fender flares already painted (white,red,blue and gloss black)they are about $170.00 per pair. You will need two pairs. One front pair one rear pair. Also the factory flares can be made smooth and painted.
  • trw3trw3 Member Posts: 35
    Don't forget the valance under the grill/top of the bumper is the same texture as what the flairs will be so it will have to be painted also or you'll just have to live with it. Just a thought.
  • mth1mth1 Member Posts: 12
    GM accessories offers fender flares already painted (white,red,blue and gloss black)they are about $170.00 per pair. You will need two pairs. One front pair one rear pair. Also the factory flares can be made smooth and painted.

    markbuck -- I have a set of OEM wheels. email me at thalf1@hotmail.com
  • trw3trw3 Member Posts: 35
    Just wondering how you like your crew? Have you put any more miles on it and is it still pulling a 13mpg. avg. Mine has 1620 miles now and is still only getting 11.2 -11.3 , 9.5 in 4wd. (6.0 w/4.10)
  • n75v111n75v111 Member Posts: 243
    on the loyalty cert -- Post 752 i think - Won't repeat it here

    Thanks for info on post 270 above also.

    75v
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    out haul me? Yea payload but not speed.

    Ryan
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    ....don't it?

    LOL

    - Tim
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Ok Tim your on

    "strong truck competition"

    1500 vs 2500LD (light duty haha)

    Ryan
  • bowhuntwi2bowhuntwi2 Member Posts: 80
    From Ford last year, when I ordered my SD F250, I waited 6 long months for arrival, I see GM is doing the same to you guys..... It's a repeat of last years, same words spoken, differant company, differant people but same words spoken........Ford has an 800 number for customer service, I'm sure GM has the same, also we could track our trucks by going to www.bnsf.com
    (rail line) when they left the factory, all you need was the last 7 numbers of your vin#. I'm sure if you check around you can find the info you need. Good Luck to all you guys waiting.........
  • gulfguygulfguy Member Posts: 30
    I've read with interest the wide variety of posts regarding getting allocations and TPWs from GM. One guy seems to have no trouble and the next can't get one at all.....

    I ordered a GMC 2500 HD crew cab, short bed, 2 WD, SLT, with 8.1, Allison and 3.73 locking diff around Oct 10.

    I was told that in spite of my use of the truck being in my business that the leather interior could not be ordered on a commercial allocation and I'd have to wait for a retail allocation. I was also told that the DuraMax was not going to be available in a retail allocation for a long time...... ie that if I wanted DuraMax and leather in a crew cab, that it would be July or later before I could see my truck. The excuse being that all the diesels were going into big fleet service to get engineering feedback on how they stood up in the real world.... Higher diesel fuel prices, questionable availability and the hassles of just finding diesel some places caused me to opt for the 8.1.

    At Thanksgiving I visited a small town in southeast Missouri and saw on a lot waiting for a buyer, an extended cab 2500 HD with a DuraMax and leather interior with the full function bucket seats. This is a tiny dealer in a little town...... and he had the supposedly unavailable combination truck. Go Figure!
    I was called by my dealer and given an opportunity to drop the leather interior and full function seating in order to take another allocation they had received for a non leather truck.

    In early Dec I got a TPW of Jan 29 and last week it was moved up to Jan 22.

    Now.... supposedly I am getting moved up while I read others are getting moved back. The reasons I read range from crew cab, to leather, to 4.10 to limited slip, to 3.73, to retail or commercial.

    I think the bottom line is that words like plan, system and logic are foreign to GM. The rules governing the production and sales of these vehicles seem to be poorly thought out, arbitrary and full of means whereby dealers and reps of varying degrees of imagination are sometimes abel to arbitrarily circumvent the rules for the benefit of themselves and a particular customer.

    I'm really looking forward to getting my new truck but find it disappointing that customers need to come here to learn about optional equipment like body colored flairs, etc when the dealers and their parts people don't seem to know what is available or what will fit. No, I am not going to bother sanding and painting the rough, ugly, cheap looking bumper cap and flairs..... I changed the color of the truck to match them and that'll just have to do.
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    perhaps I should just wait for a 2003 HD? instead of a 2002.

    Maybe then you can have climate control,autotrac,moon roof,power slider in an HD?

    good luck to those waiting.....I know how it can be....waited 5 months for my 2000 2500.

    - Tim
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    climate control is avail in a crew...but it gives me less "stuff" space than an Ex. cab

    - Tim
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Yea Tim wait till 2003 then maybe itll be stronger and you will be able to "outhaul" my truck hehehe

    Ryan
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    pair of boots?

    - Tim
  • 4x44x4 Member Posts: 114
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    Gracias..
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    why u need some boots tim?

    I have a few pairs

    Hows a size 13?

    Ryan
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    cuz the &*^$ is getting deep!

    - Tim
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    why its babs.....short for babbler...LMFAO!!
  • hunter98hunter98 Member Posts: 273
    Tim, Crew cab back seat folds down flat against the floor to make a load floor about 6" off the floor. Plus you have the more space front the rear and the fact that you can fold the 40 section, 60 section or both. 4x4 that is still a sharp truck, I sure wish that there were a few GM HD Crews with any motor around. There isn't and they ain't wanting to deal one dealer said 750 over for a gas another 500 over for any setup, but the only guarantee was I would get a 2002 or a 2001 model. That is no f****** way to run a company. GM lost a loyal customers sale by the inability to deliver or guarantee delivery of the product. Looks like the parents are gonna buy a ford F250 or F350 Crew Cab Lariat 4x4 maybee in the next couple of weeks. Would have prefered a GM but they can't wait any longer. You can buy a $$$$ Ford like you want off the lot, with 10-25 SD on the lot to choose from. Oh well I just had to vent, I may still get a crew cab with the 8100 or the Duramax in SLT for myself but I got a good GM truck and am prepared to Wait 2-20 months. I guess I need my head examined.

    Hunter
  • smart99smart99 Member Posts: 48
    Who's getting the allocation?
    I've had dealers tell me that a fleet order will be "a crap shoot"
  • 4x44x4 Member Posts: 114
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  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    ..For a Ford!

    LOL

    ...as stated before...I am still waiting to see a Crew back seat folded up in person.....some seats by the time they fold up and down...and the head rests are in the way....an extended cab has more room with the cleaner fold up seat..

    we will see

    - Tim
  • n75v111n75v111 Member Posts: 243
    #276 trw3- Posted question to you over on Silv XVIII - by n75v111 Jan 09, 2001 (04:48 am)
    on the loyalty cert -- Post 752 think - Won't repeat it here

    Thanks for info on post 270 above also.

    75v
  • outbakoutbak Member Posts: 10
    Whats wrong with black fender flares with a white truck? I like the contrast between the white body and the black flares. It looks great! Painting the flares white to match a white truck will make it look like a Bayer aspirin with four black tires. If you don't like the flares take them off. Then you will have a unique truck.
  • trampertramper Member Posts: 12
    Thanks for the info. in post #270.I will give it a try. Iv' always heard the squeaky wheel gets the oil.

    Just finished checking out www.wheels.com/assembly line news,some new info. on availability of 2500&3500hd in Jan. Things may be getting better. If not I may also check out the Ford SD..,but only as a last resort.
    Tramper
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    white looks good with Black.....as does red with black....and even Blue..

    and of course black and black....

    Very few colors don't look good with black flares

    - Tim
  • sf0383sf0383 Member Posts: 204
    anything, but if the GVWR of the 2500HD is 9200 and the 2500 is 8200, What is the GVWR for the 1500's?
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    1500 Ext Cab 4x4 GVWR is 6400

    Got it from chevys website

    Ryan
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    - Tim
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    yea tim we know that no need to rub it in.

    Ryan
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