Chevy Silverado - Continued XVIII

87lion

Ryan should have painted the flares when he painted his mirrors.

xyz71

The high capacity filter and the regular air filter are the same size - per the owners manual they are interchangable.

I just changed mine @ 28K - the little gauge indicated the filter was fine, but I was about to take a 2,700 mile trip so I pulled it off. It looked totally dirty to me. I held a shop light up to it and could see no light, not only looked dirty but moldy. I tried to get a filter at Autozone (about $8.00 for a Fram) - no luck sold out. I ended up paying $25.00 at the dealer. The price you pay when you wait until the last minute.

I guess the filter you get from Autozone is not the heavy duty one.

jrosasmc

Did Chevy continue to make certain C/K pickup models even after the Silverado came out? My roommate's father drives a '00 K3500 Dually 4x4 with a 6.5-liter diesel and it has a build date of 1/00. And this is an LS model that's real loaded to the hilt.

tonyy

I have relied on tire chains on many occasions to get out of a jam. If the going gets tough I chain up the front, if it gets really tough I chain up all 4 on my Toyota or F250. I have a 02 1500HD on order and am concerned by Playdough's comments about the manufacture's statement "don't put chains on the tires of the front axle". This doesn't sound like a clearance issue, sounds more like an axle strength issue. Does anyone out there know for sure why GM has made this statement? If there is a potential component failure mode associated with chaining up the front axle does anyone know of any after market components that would alleviate this weakness?

eric2001

GM continued to make the previous C/K bodystyles in the 3/4 & 1 ton for '00 and the 1-ton for '01.

So yes, his K3500 production 1/00 is not unique. These were offered with the older engine lines.
-Eric

mgdvhman

Ryan....I have the same flares pal....I'm not the hate flare king....it's...oh skip it...

and yeah.....pewter flares and lowers look awesome on blue trucks.......

- Tim

dustyone

My '00 Silverado LT, Z71, 1500 made 2/10/00 has the window sticker designation as K1500 and the wifes '01 Suburban LT 4x4 6.0 liter, made 3/31/01 has the designation K2500HD on the sticker. So have they quit using the C/K designation?

mledtje

No, they continue to have the same meaning - C series is 2wd, K series is 4wd

Mike L
99 Silverado K1500 Reg Cab Longbed 4.8L 5spd
00 Silverado K2500 Reg Cab Longbed 6.0L 5spd
Deadhorse, Alaska 6-6-99

ryanbab

Tim its scary but i am actually starting to agree with the blue/pewter look. Seen one the other night and i like it, However the black accessory scheme wont work

jrosasmc

GM's old 6.5-liter turbodiesel has a bad reputation when it comes to durability, right?

mpalombo

"and yeah.....pewter flares and lowers look awesome on blue trucks......."

Looks good on Carmine too....HAHAHAHA

-Mark

ryanbab

is for old guys

haha havent heard that in awhile

for Tim its carmine and gold.

hey tim over on gm-trucks.com this guy who owns an accessory shop took a 2500 burb with the 8.1 supercharged it and he had it painted the lower part and flares pewter (blue was on top) looked sharp.

ryanbab

http://www.tbyrnemotorsports.com/

scroll down a bit and they have a few small thumbnails of the blue burb before and after

also he installed a hood from an HD pickup and a billet grill. Looks nice

txyank1

also looks VERY good with Black. As does the Gold. (That's Black with Gold, not Gold with Pewter)

txyank1

(http://www.tbyrnemotorsports.com) re: the '99 with an Airaid intake under "Our Vehicles". It says it increased 10 hp and 20 lbs ft. I wonder if that was actually measured. Maybe I'll have to put mine back on!

txyank1

above website and had a response really quick. Tom said the 10hp and 20 lbs ft of torque increase from the addition of the Airaid are dyno numbers!! (For those, like me who were wondering.)

tomh12

About the pewter/blue, pewter/black, pewter/carmine, other than the fact that it looks great, is that it does a good job of hiding "splash" that would look bad on dark color behind wheel wells. I know because I had a '94 hunter red/silver that looked good and clean most of the time.....RYAN...that's HUNTER RED, not carmine.
LOL
Tom

mpalombo

My son is 2 1/2, I am teaching him that my truck is "Carmine red" not just Red. My wife thinks I'm nuts but it's wicked cute the way he says it, it sounds like one word "carminered". We were looking through some old pictures of a camping trip that I took and there was one with me and my '91 Blue Stepside. He saw that and said "Daddys truck is blue, not carminered" it was wicked cute. Ok, sorry for boring you guys with my cute kid story.

-Mark

jaguar0027

Ness,

I put Pirelli Scorpion AT's on my Rado. P265's same as the Fstones I got originally. My truck does not do it consistently unless Ive become used to it. It DOES seem to do it more when the weather outside is colder??? Maybe its a pure tire problem?

What exactly is the hunter balancer? Is it a "high speed" balancer?

Jim

ryanbab

I really like the black over pewter like BCO's truck

The splash on the rear of the truck looks"COOL"

Mark now you gotta teach him to say daddy old hehehe

tomh12

I had UBFs on my current GMC just long enough to get to the body shop for a paint job...he he he.

I will admit that they look good on your blue truck.....but they would look even better if body color, like your mirrors.
Tom

ryanbab

nope the black flares make the tires and accessories stand out.

blue flares = to much blue on the truck

mpalombo

I'm sure he'll he saying that soon enough.

-Mark

eversons

Ryan:

You've helped me several times over on the Suburban/YXL board. My buddy's work truck was stolen. He was looking for a replacement. So I told him to look at the Silverado or GMC.

What are good pricings on a 2002 or 2001? At invoice, below invoice? I see a $2,002.00 rebate. Does he take that off after?

Thanks in advance!
Scott

jrosasmc

Do the new Silverados ride good in comparison to the old 1988-98 C/K?

ryanbab

what kinda truck does he need? Ext cab reg cab long bed short bed 4wd 2wd?

eversons

My buddy is looking at a 1500 4X4 LS extended cab short bed. I don't think he wants any options more than the LS. He lives in Washington state.

Thanks again,
Scott

eversons

I've been wondering why GM reccomends the use of tire chains on only two wheels as well.

My guess is that GM is worried that the driveline will start binding up if the wheels get too much grip with the chains if they are on all four wheels.

tonyy

Scott, thanks for the response. There must be someone out there that knows more about this issue. How about you OBYONE what's your take? Or you RYAN, maybe you could make a science project out of this. Ref. #5353.

markw8

I believe the problem with not using chains on the front, is because of clearence problems with the air dam during turns.I think this is only with 265 tires or larger on the 1500's.

txyank1

I'm seeing $3500 discounts on Silverados, and the $2002 rebate is in addition to that. That make for a pretty good price. Especially if you're buying outright. If you have a trade-in that's where they make it up.

ryanbab

"is because of clearence problems with the air dam during turns.I think this is only with 265 tires "

I have 285's on my truck and no rubbing whatsoever.

jaguar0027

Hey Guys,

I know I saw a post awhile back on the GM buyback for the Silverado's. I am not sure if it was from Clay or not.

Could someone pls tell me what is needed in order to initiate it, and how do they calculate the amt? I remember it was something into 100,000 miles.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

txyank1

lot today with 285/60's on it, on Custom wheels. Looked good!

obyone

Buyback value= paid price - ((mileage/100k)*paid price))

txyank1

weekend. First tankful UP 2 mpg. Now I know you can't tell by just one tank, but I think it's safe to say based on this and what I saw the mpg drop when I put it on, that the 10 hp and 20 lbs. ft. of torque costs me pretty close to 2 mpg.

markw8

I've seen your truck in pictures and it looks good,but I belive that clearence or lack of was GM's reason for this. This may only be a problem during turns on uneven terrain while the suspension moves up and down.

jaguar0027

Thanks for the info. I may look into this with my dealer if the vibration/shaking does not get fixed!

shiftless

I believe the most important reason for recommending against chains on the front wheels of 4WD is, with the nonuniform traction (with chains) and wheels turned maximum in either direction the constant velocity universal joints may dissemble. Usually chains on the front would only be considered for exceptionally challenging off-road where the drive line is not treated very kindly.

Ed

chevy4me

Going from a 255/70/16 to a 265/70/16 there is around a 2% increase in diameter of the tire. This will change the speedometer a little but what does it do to the trans shift points?
On a 1500 2wd Silverado has anyone tried the 265/70/16 or the 275/70/16 Michelin LT M/S or Cross Terrain?

tonyy

Ed, thanks for your input. Thats what I'm thinking, there is some sort of drive line weakness. I'm not that well versed in the "constant velocity" physics of Chevy drive train technology so please tell me more. Does this mean that any independent front suspension system is is in the same boat? What happens (with out chains) when one tire is in mud and the other on rock? I use chains a lot for the reasons you mentioned. I hope that my new truck (1500HD, yet to be received) can get to some of the places I am used to getting to by passing the guys that don't have chains.

obyone

On my '00 Denali, I got rid of the Firestone Firehawks 265/70R16 and mounted the Michelin LTX M/S 275/70R16. Figuring on about a 2-3% increase in size I asked the GMC service manager about reprogramming for the tires. He told me that the size change is insignificant due to the closeness in size of the tires. Also that manufacturers vary tire sizes even though they maybe of the same size from different manufacturers.

On my '00 rado, I dumped the Generals 255/70R16 (fourth set)for the Michelins again in 275/70R16. I asked my Chevy service manager if the difference required reprogramming. He also said no giving the reason of actual tire size difference as being insignificant and by the time the Michelins get a bit worn, would hardly make any difference at all.

Since I like to mod the truck, I got a Hypertech III programmer and programmed the truck for the larger tire size. On both trucks, I didn't notice any significant change in the shift points. Course I've changed that on the rado for a little better performance at WOT, but on normal shifting...can't tell at all.

txyank

The computer requires about 300 miles to adjust for the airaid or lack of it. You could also pull the plug on the battery for about 20 minutes. Either way though, I'd seriously doubt that you would gain 2 mpg which would depend more on your driving habits, environment, or winter gas....

txyank1

one tank doesn't tell the story, but that is just about what I lost when I put it on. And that has stayed pretty consistent over several months. We'll see.

mgdvhman

...yeah you have 285's.....but no chains!

- Tim

ryanbab

yea but how thick are the chains?

The 285's have a 0.5" larger radius over the 265's. Last time i checked chains werent much more than that thick

dch0300

As a fellow Washington resident, I too have looked into chains for my 2001 ext-cab Z-71 with 265's. However after reading the WDOT information on "chains required", I've not got the urgency anymore to go out and find chains for my truck. I've made several trips over the Cascade Mountains when "chains required" signs are posted, and when they see me in a 4wd they just wave me on through.

Here is the info from the WDOT web page.......

WAC 204-24-050 Use of tire chains or other traction devices. (1) Vehicles under 10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight.
(a) When traffic control signs marked "approved traction tires required" are posted by the department of transportation it shall be unlawful for any vehicle to enter the controlled area
without having mounted on its drive tires at least one of the traction devices meeting the requirements of WAC 204-24-040.
(b) When traffic control signs marked "chains required" are posted by the department of transportation it shall be unlawful for any vehicle to enter the controlled area without having
mounted on its drive tires, tire chains meeting the standards in chapter 204-22 WAC.
(i) Exception for all wheel drive vehicles. When "chains required" signs are posted, all-wheel drive vehicles shall be exempt from the chain requirement when all wheels are in gear and
are equipped with approved traction devices as specified in WAC 204-24-040 provided that tire chains for at least one set of drive tires are carried in the vehicle.

pathomp

Thanks for the comments on AirAid. It sound like they are not a good deal. Somebody mentioned a supercharger. Has anyone installed one? What brand/style? How much money?

playdough

I've never had a trooper ask me to put chains on a 4X4 yet (and don't know of anyone else who's had to either), but with the kids in ski school I'll be driving the pass more and want to make sure I don't get turned back.

FYI - I bought chains from Les Schwab Tire ($80) after they looked at the truck/P265/75R16 tire combination and figured there was plenty of clearance, at least on the rear axle.

Thanks

rabbitrun

Remember seeing past messages about these but can not remember what was said. Is it worth changing over to. Any pro's or con's would be appreciated. TIA
Steve
P.S. Chevy 2002 2500HD EC SB 8100/Allison/3.73.

dch0300

$80 for chains at Les Schwab....sounds good if they are indeed chains and not cables.
Probably wouldn't hurt for me to finally get some too, even if they are just "carried in the vehicle".
If they fit good on the rear tires, it should be no problem.
I think I'll "practice" putting them on in the dry/warm garage first, just to make sure I know how they go on, and how to get them to fit good-n-tight.