Chevy Silverado - Continued XVIII

mgdvhman

the secret is to have personal web space or some kind of freebie public web space to have your photo transferred to.....to post the link on the web where it's at.

Good Luck on this one now.

- Tim

rayt2

On my 88 1/2 ton Ext. Cab w/ 4.3L you were able to decipher codes by jumping two of the connectors under dash and then counting the flashes of the "check engine" light to determine code number. I believe I found this information in a Hayes Auto repair manual. I cannot remember which two terminals you had to jump out nor if Hayes has a manual out for the newer model Chevy trucks yet. Hope this helped some, I will look at my old Hayes for the 88 and get back to you on it. Most everyone of the codes always steered you to changing the O2 sensor first, periodically it should be done anyway cuz they don't last forever and they are fairly easy to change.

Ray T.

blackmax200

Just for general information rayt, after 96 most all vehicles were equipped with On Board Diagnostics II (OBDII), and the method no longer works.

matthew

obyone

Didn't I say that? LOL!!

ryanbab

i dont think so the signal from that island you on came up fuzzy

haha

bajabill

First of all, HELLO

I checked back about 60 msgs and found nothing regarding my question, so if it has been beaten into the ground prior, I appologise.

Looking into a 2002 silverado. Standard Cab, 4x4, long bed, 3/4 ton, basic work truck.

In this configuation, it is only offered in the HD version. Correct?, any opinions why?

And what is actually included in the HD versus a simple 2500, any real chassis beef-ups, or just a cool looking sticker :-)

obyone

the former 2500 is now considered a LD or a 1500HD. So for the new 2500 HD, you get a taller stance, greater GVWR, a taller hood (so you don't look like a 1500) and of course slightly higher payments. And don't forget the optional allison trans, duramax diesel, or 8.1...which again adds to the bottom line.

bajabill

those differences, are they also between 2002 2500 and 2002 2500HD, say in a ext cab/4x4

looks like an HD option is only about 100 bucks.

also, what is the word on the 6.0L engine, problems?, fixed for 2002?

mgdvhman

anymore?

they are 8600 GVW...as is the 1500HD.....but the 1500HD being a crew cab has farr less capability than an ex.cab or reg cab.
A regular cab 8600GVW 2500 is almost the same as an ex.cab 2500HD with 9200GVW...being it has less weight in the truck/frame itself. Take out 4WD and the capacities go up even more.

6.0 engine problems....mine has 41,000 miles..has a slight tick on start up when cold....uses no oil...no problems what so ever. Don't worry about it.

- Tim

ryanbab

yes you can still get a 2500 LD

only certain options though

I believe it is ext cab 4wd and reg cab 2wd? Look at edmunds pricing for 02 they list the LD but only certain body types

mgdvhman

looked.....ain't got any extra time between Edmunds and beer runs...

haha

I wonder how many LD's (7200) were actually sold?...can't see too many people getting a 5.3 with a 2500?

- Tim

bajabill

ext cab, 4x4

2500,----> gw=8600, payld=3152
2500hd,--> gw=9200, payld=3152

reg cab, 4x2

2500,----> gw=8600, payld=3638
2500hd,--> gw=9200, payld=4108

does anyone know what differences between these models, real chassis changes, shocks, visible differences, etc.

Realistically, this is just a curiosity, because for the reg cab 4x4 is 2500hd only. I just would like to know what I got, in real hardware terms. I know the HD is required to get the 8100 engine, but wondering what the differences are assuming the 6.0L is choosen. Thanks

ryanbab

reg cab, 2x2???

Visual differences BULDGE in hood

bajabill

what are you talking about, 2x2, is that an all wheel drive motorcycle :-) I fixed that little oopps.

I looked a bit more and the heights are greater and more ground clearance with the HD vs LD for the same models, so there has got to be something of substance changed or added underneath. I will look for the buldge only on the trucks!! The customer is not myself, that is why I have not been on the lot looking, I will probably take this opportunity however, to stop at the dealer and look for myself. Never miss a chance to car or truck shop. Im addicted.

mdw1000

Hey guys!

I'm making it back every once in awhile. Like I said before, this job is a lot tougher time wise than the last one, so I can't make it on very often.

If you don't remember, I've got a 99 Z71 LT. I've got the Firestone P265s on it. A buddy of mine is getting rid of his 2000, and he is offering to give me his Goodyear LT285s. He originally had the firestone p265s on his, but he upgraded. He thinks I shouldn't worry about the difference as far as speedo recalculation goes, but the service manager at the local dealer I talked to claims it will really throw off my speedo and they won't reprogram it. I've also heard it throws off the shift points, and it can affect gas mileage.

I'm sure some of you have done this - what do you think?

Thanks,
Mark

ryanbab

it wasnt a huge change. when you start hitting like 70 mph then you see a 3-4 mph difference.

Shift point i seen no difference with the change but then again i also changed the program with an HPIII programmer

mledtje

The tire is about 5% larger. So the speedo will be off about the same 5%, or as Ryan stated 3-4 mph off at 70mph.

In some cases, the extra speed (actual is higher than indicated) maybe enough to get you a ticket instead of a warning.

Mike L

obyone

is that your mileage will be lower since the tires are larger.

hondo10

i am a novice. anyone know what the best idea is? i want to put on 285 or 295's. i have a 2000 chevy 2500 single cab long bed 4x4. 3 inches max. please, any suggestions!

vince4

I have the same truck and found that a lift would be required for 285/75/16. I put on 275/70/16 and they fit as is. The tires don't look much different and the speedo isn't affected at all. Just an option in case the lift was only for the tires.

blackmax200

Vince, what brand did you get, and how do you like them? Been considering this...

matthew

txyank1

and Nephew went to 285/75's and neither made any adjustments. I haven't driven either although have ridden in one. Nothing noticeable. No tickets, and no complaints or comments about them noticing anything diff either.

mgdvhman

the 255/85/16's?....on a 2500?..didn't someone do that with good results? (taller than 275/85's)

- Tim

....I need more coffee!

LOL

ness5575

wouldnt larger tires make the speedometer show a speed that is slower than actual?? a bigger one would not have to spin as fast as a smaller one to go the same speed. so, the speedo would show a lower speed? am i confused??

roger350

I posted the differences on the 1500, 2500, and 2500HD frames about this time last year, anywhere from August to Novemeber of last year, if that helps you track down the arcives. Basically, if I remember correctly, the 2500 and 2500HD have the same front frame section. The 2500HD maybe has a little heavier (taller section) 2nd section, and the big difference comes on the back section where the bed is. The 2500 necked down before/over the axle quite a bit, and the 2500HD didn't. The other big difference was the 2500HD comes with the 10.5 in. Full floating 14 bolt axle, and the 2500 has the 9.5 in. semi-floating 14 bolt.

It really comes down to looks if you are getting a 6.0L. Yeah the HD has a little stronger frame, and axle, but if you like the 2500's looks better, and want a 3.73 with the 6.0L for the gas mileage, go for the regular 2500. It will still do the job just as well as the HD.

Oh, one last thing, the HD actually has lower ground clearance than the regular 2500, but I think that was alos documented in my post last year.

I went with the HD because I liked the looks more, but they are both great. Good luck.

ryanbab

this spring i may get some 255/85/R16 bfg mud terrains (for the looks and height 33.3")

only if i can find a set of rims for a good price

roger350

You are half right. The bigger tire will turn (rotational velocity) slower to go the same linear speed (speedometer). But, the truck determines linear speed based on rotational speed in the transmission, so you are fooling the speedo into thinking you are actually going slower than you really are. Same reason the odometer will show less than actual miles with the bigger tires.

jsmithwiz

Can anyone lend some insight as to why GM requires a narrower wheel when selecting the larger all-terrain tires as an option. Standard wheel size is 8 x 16 with the standard tires, but the alloy wheels required when selecting the optional all-terrain tires are 7.5 x 16. What gives?

txyank1

have 4wd, but my 2wd has a 6.5" wheeel size as std. I wouldn't think a 4wd would be that much bigger. Never did understand why the std. wheels got narrower when they went to 16".

bajabill

just what I was looking for.

donjbaker

Since I have been waiting for 14 weeks for my truck and have no production date, the dealer is trying to locate one that is close to my order.

One of difference is FE9 (Federal Emissions) and VCL (Fleet Clean Fuel). The question is what is the difference and how does it effect the truck (performance, mpg, maintenance, ???)?

Thanks for any help.
Don

ryanbab

i got brave today.

Removed the chrome off the pass side mirror and painted it blue. Looks GREAT!

Tomorrow i am doing the drivers side

Ill post pics asap

txyank1

remove the chrome?

obyone

rub on, rub off...its cheap plastic chrome.

obyone

It maybe too late now, but did you prime before you painted it blue? If you didn't use a primer to help the blue adhere to the plastic, what you'll find is that the paint will probably start to chip. Also you'll need to do several coats cause one coat won't work. As soon as a pebble hits it will chip a chunk off.

You may ultimately have a body shop paint it for you. Don't know how much they would charge for two mirrors. If you plan on doing the platic chrome that runs across the front of the truck, you could have them do all of it at the same time. And I wouldn't recommend Maaco or Earl Scheib.

ryanbab

This is what i did

1.removed chrome peice off mirror
2. sanded (scuffed) surface
3. applied a bonding agent (surface modifier)
4. applied primer
5. applied paint (few coats)
6. applied clearcoat
7 let dry
8. put on truck

FINISH PRODUCT (have drivers side to do tomorrow)

ryanbab

site for more pics

http://members6.clubphoto.com/_cgi-bin/members/add_pictures.pl?id=519186

obyone

the link is nonoperational. Says it can't find album.

Did you sand between coats of paint for adhesion? Especially for the clearcoat. Let dry between coats? Watch the clearcoat carefully, it will have a tendency to crack in a couple of months depending on how many coats and how you prepped in between the coats. Seelig could probably advise you better on this.

ryanbab

it took all day

if it cracks oh well it was easy enough to do and ill resand and redo it over

doubt it will though i am guessing ill catch a rock before anything

ryanbab

gfs bday present to me

Link to my site obyone

http://members6.clubphoto.com/ryan392464/owner-82b7-1.phtml

obyone

let me guess...the liscense plate frame?

ryanbab

yea and its very nice

noobie1

Heard some talk recently about one made by R&D Accessories; Locks and unlocks with the stock remote keyless entry. Anyone got a fix on a source? I tried the name as a web site address but nobody lives there. Thanks.

-David

minikin

Good grief guys, paint just ain't that hard. Ryan, you done good; 'cept you probably could have gotten by without that modifier stuff.
-- Don

minikin

www.truckautoaccessories.com
-- Don

seelig

ryan- what was the temp during this painting process?
please don't tell me you put all the layers of prep, prime, paint and clearcoat on all in the same day........

sonjaab

Check out: www.decalking.com
Neat Z-71 or 4x4 decals etc........

seelig

http://www.decalking.com

obyone

how's about all in the same hour or two

ryanbab

modifier stuff says brush on let dry for 15-20 min
Primer sprayed on 1 coat let sit 10 min then sprayed on a second let sit 45 min (15 over the recommended)
first coat of blue paint let dry 45 min (30 min suggested)
second coat added after that
Clear added an hr after the last coat of blue paint. Clear stuff basically dries on contact. I let it sit for 1-2 hrs then put it back on the truck. Basically took all day. I did the drivers mirror today i havent put it back on the truck yet.

Also i used a fan to help dry.

it was 75degrees out when i did this

So far so good.

Ryan