Toyota Tundra Problems

twowheeler

Hey man -

Will you give me discount rates at your pad or will you try to jack me because I own a Tundra? Give me a quote. AAA discount? Where the heck is Hannibal anyways?

sonjaab

I own a bar , hotel, rest. in hannibal ny
about 30 miles NE of syracuse near Oswego
NY. My motel is in Alexandria Bay NY about
90 miles north on rt 81 next to the 1000
islands bridge. I give a deal to all cuz
I love $$$$ and want a new caddy this year !
If yer serious about a nice vacation place
email me www.sonjaab@aol.com.......geo

ricsch

I see you mentioned the new Yamaha 1300 coming to the U.S. next year. Let me clarify a few things-it, the Yamaha FJR1300,is coming this year-August '02 and only those who had ordered one between March and April will get one this year, and nothing has really been said about next year. Seems Yamaha is testing the waters here in the states to see if the bike goes over well. I have one ordered, can't wait!! From all of the feedback from owners in Europe who currently have these bikes(been available for 2 yrs. there) they are very capable touring bikes, but yet can play with the sportbikes while being comfortable all day. Fuel injection, shaft drive, adj. windscreen, R1 brakes-they fly, even two-up. This bike will definately get Honda and Kawasaki to notice what the term "Super Sport Touring Motorcycles" are. Honda has a 1300ST coming, but it's large, and a bunch of plastic, besides not being sportbike oriented like the FJR.

Now about the Tundra trucks, are the issues concerning the paint, cold start noise and such being addressed by Toyota? Or are they just saying there's nothing to worry about? I currently own a Chevrolet Silverado,which other than some minor dash squeaks when cold, has been a good truck so far, but with a recent issue with my sister's S10 Blazer and it's leaking intake manifold at only 46k miles,which shouldn't happen,my personal opinion concerning GM is to push out the product, and let the consumer and dealers fix their problems, with the customer paying the price, has us looking at (for my sister- a Toyota Corolla or Camry)hopefully trouble free vehicles. I don't anticipate replacing my truck anytime soon, but either a Tacoma or Tundra will definately be considered then. I was told by a Toyota salesperson that the Tundra will be available sometime in '03 as a '04 model in a Double Cab style. At this time, the Tundra Access Cab is too tight in the rear seating area, with its vertical seat back it doesn't appear to be comfortable for any adult for any length of time, but hopefully that will change soon!

quadrunner500

We've had bikes like this before, Venture, Concours. I'm sure it's a whale-of-a-lot faster than those, and possibly faster in a straight line than FJ1100-FJ1200, but I doubt seriously it can carve corners or brake with the simpler, lighter, less complicated siblings. Even that friggin' Zx-11 was complicated enough, with ram air plumbing, liquid cooling.

No...sounds like it misses the mark for me. They had the formula right back in '84-87, but started out marketing it as a sport bike when it was a touring bike. What I liked, it would do 150-155 mph, high 10 second quarters, air-cooled chain drive simplicity, light handling, abundant cornering clearance. You start slappin' on crap like motorized windscreens, shaft drive, liquid cooling, fuel injection, they gain weight and become a plumbing mess to service.

twowheeler

Special order on the FJR? Man, hope the dealers are playing fair. I've read the articles in CW and Motorcyclist and the bike got great reviews. Personally, if the shape of the gas tank were a bit more sporty shaped, I think it would be a knockout. Kaw's got the ZZR12 (?) to compete with the FJR, but its seems to be only a made-over ZX11.

RE: the tundra, you may want to check out www.tundrasolutions.com for others that have some probs with their truck. Many of the complaints are in the range of fairly minor to semi-serious (the semi-serious being the paint probs and cold knock). I think most auto manufacturers may at one time or another have quality probs with the paint coatings, since air regulators around the country continue to mandate reduced VOCs (volatile organic compounds) in coatings which leads to applicability problems. I think Toyota (corporate) is addressing the tundra's owner's complaints, but not sure how it compares to GM service. Someone on TS posted that they had the dealer do a light teardown of where the knock was coming from but there was no visible or measurable wear. Toyota offered to teardown the engine completely but the person didn't want to for fear it may cause more harm than good. Haven't read anymore news on the peeling paint. I admit the back seating is tight and uncomfortable, but I figured that I won't be hauling alot of adults in it too often. The Toyota double cab would be nice if they don't cut the bed down to F150 Supercrew scale (I would have seriously considered the supercrew if it had a foot more on the bed and good crash test results).

What mods have you done to your '93 5-oh?

twowheeler

I think I was headed south towards Tucson after leaving the petrified forest up in the northeast area of the state (I think), when I decided to see what she'd do. That was a fun trip, but it was heck of hot! (July). 110+ degrees ambient weather in the southern part of the state. I had to stop at each rest-stop (about every 25 mins at my pace) to douse myself with water to prevent getting heat stroke. I'd put about a half gallon of water in my fullface helmet, put the helmet on with the water splashing all over me, then ride on down the road. Within 10 minutes, the helmet would be dry. The ambient temp plus the heat blast from the radiator was just a killer.

Maybe I'll do an over-nighter somewhere on the ZX10 before selling it. I miss touring on a bike.

drgo

I was told by an uncle that the engine in the V8 tundra is the same engine in the Lexus. Is this true? If so, my father's Lexus states the car should be filled with super unleaded gas. Should the same apply to the Tundra? I don't think too many truck owners would be happy about that but filling their car up with Arco, i.e. the cheapest gas around, may not be a good thing. Then again, my 10 year old, 4 cyl toyota truck is doing fine with 150,000 miles and has only known Arco unleaded gas in its tank. Am I being a little too nervous about my spanking incredibly nice new truck?

Craig

bamatundra

The Tundra will run to its full potential on the cheapest gas you can find. I have been running the cheapest regular I can find for years. I have no problems with knocking or driveability at all (unlike Yugo Shakerados).

bamatundra

That unhappy GM owners post more problems to this topic than Tundra owners. A good example is this post:

themailman1 May 4, 2002 9:07am

Notice that the poster's profile says that the poster actually owns a GM Shakerado. Man - He or she is really confused.

Oh, well! The GM owners with a serious case of Tundra envy will always post to this site.

We can try to help these unfortunate GM owners. I think that we should start a new topic for "GM lemon owners that post to Tundra topics" Then these insecure individuals would have an appropriate place to post.

Will this happen? NAAAAAHHH! Runny, Sonja et al will post here irregardless. Good luck on this one now!

ricsch

This one from Motorcycle Daily.

> http://www.motorcycledaily.com/03may02yamaha2003fjr1300.html Check this article out if your at all interested. I think Quad would be suprised by how the 1300 is more sportbike than past attempts, not that it will compete head to head with R1's and CBR954's. I've had enough of the sport bike seating position, ready for the FJR!!

Regarding the '93 Mustang, it's what Ford calls a feature car, limited build (1400) that is a loaded LX, no GT plastic cladding, Chrome Yellow, chromed alum. rims, black leather and all power options. Car is original, no modifications to speak of, but considering some subframe connectors and a shock tower engine compartment brace, car only has 36k, and only sees sunny days.

twowheeler

I thought only the Cobra was "the" limited edition stang in '93. Well, just goes to show that I'm not a total mustang enthusiast. But I still have the '91 GT that I bought new with less than 69K miles on it now. Would have less but, was my daily driver for a couple of years which caused it to rack up the miles. It's fairly stock, except a couple of bolt ons (i.e. headers, catback, 73 mm mass air, K&N panel, pullies, TFS intake/phenolic spacer/65 mm throttle body awaiting install).

Sorry guys, I know I'm deviating from the Tundra topic.

twowheeler

It think it'll do mid 10's

obyone

Runny, Sonja et al will post here irregardless.

Making up words as you go along like the tales you tell? What exactly does that word mean?

Really, good luck on this one now!!!

bamatundra

As much as I hate to admit it, Runny is right on this one. I owned a Kaw Concours and it was a pig! You had to be Hercules to get it on its centerstand. I want sometning aroung 400lb. That leaves sport tourers out.

My K75s is OK, but underpowered. It is still too heavy.

bamatundra

Check this out, you might learn something...... NAAAAH!

http://onelook.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/bware/afen.cgi?type=word_all&word=irregardless

tomh12

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

irregardless

SYLLABICATION: ir·re·gard·less
PRONUNCIATION: r-gärdls
ADVERB: Nonstandard Regardless.
ETYMOLOGY: Probably blend of irrespective and regardless.
USAGE NOTE: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir– prefix and –less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.

This, from Bama's own links...
Tom

kg11

Have you nothing better to do with your time than make fun of some dumb yokel?You guys should be ashamed of yourselves,for once I feel sorry for the poor hick.He don't got good lernin and you think that's funny.How would it be if people made fun of...well...er...uh...never mind.Sorry ,maybe I over medicated again.

kip

bamatundra

"it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing."

Geez tommy, isn't this casual writing? You Lemonado owners are trying to enforce standard English?

Don't you think that it would be time better spent writing letters to the BBB and your lawyers to get your Lemonados bought back?

ricsch

I had looked at a Kawasaki Concours a few years ago, but it hasn't been updated since it first came out, and the new Yamaha in my opinion is a much better bike, even the lucky guys in Europe who are lucky enough to have had both bikes available to them seem to favor the FJR. Two Wheeler mentioned in his post regarding that seeing this was a special order deal to get one here this year, some dealers wouldn't sell for less than MSRP of $11,500 w/panniers, many are getting theirs for $10K, a bargain compared to overseas where they go for a few grand more minus the panniers! haven't heard of any gouging like what goes on with Harleys in some areas. Weight of them is supposed to be somewhere between 560-600 wet, much lighter than my HD Fatboy was(nice ride) but I miss the performance of a Japanese in-line four cylinder. If you don't get irritated about me posting about the bike, I'll let you know in August how the real thing is, first time I bought a bike w/o being able to see or sit on before committing to it. Should be fun!

obyone

As in funny haha! I guess nonstandard can also be associated with how and what you tow and the loads you carry with your nonstandard truck. LMAO!!

Maybe you could also give us a lesson on PIG latin.

kg11

Now I understand what you meant by teaching a pig how to sing....woot!!

bamatundra

I know that porcines such as yourself will never be opera singers. I just wish you would stop that incessant whining that you do. Sort of like teaching whiners not to whine.

Risch - I know that sport tourers make the best sense on paper, but they are crippled sports bikes and crippled tourers. If you want a sportbike get a Honda V twin. If you want a tourer - get a Honda 6 cylinder. Anything else is a compromise.

quadrunner500

Thanks for the link on the FJR1300! I like the looks because there is family resemblance to the FJ1100-FJ1200 siblings. The bars are actually higher, but they were high enough on the 11-1200.

The engine sounds great, but alas my fears and concerns remain...needless complexity, and possible ill-handling. Only the tail light of my FJ1100 I'm quite sure, would have been visible to the FJR1300 pilot when canyon carving. Of course, there's always SOMETHING faster, but my point is that the FJ1100-1200 already had the right comfort quotient, the right balance, and simplicity. The FJR1300 seems to solve a problem no one (except Yamaha) was having. Yamaha's problem? No sales!

I'm totally revulsed to the idea of shaft drive on a sport bike. A squirt of chain lube was never a problem. The pogo-stick, hobby horsing I felt on shaft drive bikes was never something to build confidence on. As for the chassis flex the article noted, I'll have no comment, but refer you to 2-Wheeler for his opinion.

My money is that FJR1300 within 6 mos of U.S. introduction, is DOA. Hope I'm wrong.

bamatundra

If I wanted to buy a sport tourer now, I would get a VFR800 and put bags on it. I know - it is not the ultimate sportsbike or tourer, but it would be a good compromise.

I think that if the FJR1300 really weighs 600lb, it is the best sport tourer ever. I just am not wanting a 600lb bike to carve turns witn. I am sure the bike you are talking about is much more comfortable, though.

When I bought my Tundra, I wanted no compromises. I have been extremely happy since buying it - it is the best 1/2 ton out there. I hope you like your Yanahammer as much!

kg11

n.one who plagiarizes;a literary thief.

plagiarism, 1.the act of plagiarizing. 2.an idea,passage,plot,etc.that has been plagiarized.

plagiarize, to take and pass off as one's own (the ideas,writings,etc.of another)

since our favorite Tundra troll is intent on claiming Grampa Lambel's Russian orthadox wisdom (never try to teach a pig to sing) as his own,here's one I hope he'll lay claim to and keep saying it till it makes sense to him.

"Don't hold strong opinions about things you don't understand"

kip

bamatundra

I'm not trying to teach you porcines to be opera singers. Could you please stop WHINING? It is hurting my ears.

plutonious

"Chevy trucks - the longest lasting, most dependable trucks on the road."

Now that's just full of humor and irony, now isn't it?

PF_Flyer

...and stay away from commenting about each other. You KNOW where that always leads to.

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tomh12

Just because "it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing" doesn't make it correct....
As your link states..." it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir– prefix and –less suffix in a single term."

And...."it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so."

Bottom line...the word is not becoming on an educated man such as yourself.
Tom

bamatundra

Hey - it's in the dictionary, I spelled it correctly, and I used the word in the correct context. That's close enough for me. Although the GMboys are outraged, I will continue to use the word irregardless. LMFAO!

losangelesemt

got a quarter for everytime he had to interject in these threads, I reckon he'd be retired on an island right now sippin a cold one.

PF_Flyer

As interesting as the debate about the English language might be, let's get this one back on track

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sonjaab

cHECK IT out www.toyotasolutions.com
Yep the truth over there.............
Sludge, brakes, coldstart knock etc....
Why bash on GM................

BTW: Ex toyota owner 2 of them ...
so let ME tell ya all about,them

kg11

I don't remember,"back on track".Would that be motorcycles or singing pigs?

kip

bamatundra

While I think it is important to keep a ladies view in this topic - you don't own a Tundra and therefore have no problems with your non-existent vehicle.

I have owned a Tundra 2 1/2 years and the only problem I have had is a weak seat belt retractor. I have not had my truck in the shop yet. For comparison sake, ObyWAAHH!naTundra has had his Lemonado in the shop over 4 MONTHS!!!

Get real - If you want to perpetuate American junk - buy GM. If you want to buy a quality vehicle buy a Toyota, Ford, or Dodge in that order.

bamatundra

Let's talk motorcycles. The singing pig thing never worked and is getting old.

kg11

You keep pointing out that others don't have a Tundra and therefore thier opinions are invalid.
I know you've been asked before many times bet convienently get Attention Deficit Disorder.I'll ask again and we'll all await your enlightened answer.WHAT'S YOUR E X P E R I E N C E with a chevy,or towing,or hualing...or singing.

kip

kg11

My V-MAX with stage 7 kit is still the fastest thing around ,in a straight line of coarse.I'd need the use of both legs to enjoy my sons Hayabusa.What I'd give to be 40 again !

kip

sonjaab

Motorcycles ? I have had Kawis ,hds,Nortons
and still have a Triumph Bonneville 750

And NO I am not a woman.....and had 2 trouble
some Toyotas and a bunch of hard working
GM trucks...............Geo

quadrunner500

>WHAT'S YOUR E X P E R I E N C E with a chevy,or towing,or hualing...or singing.<

I can answer that. His father-in-law owns a NEW ONE! Can you imagine what kind of life for daughter? LOL!

kg11

SUEEEY....Here pig,pig,pig !

Singing lessons no doubt.

quadrunner500

There's a '93 FJ1200 with 6k miles in the paper for $4800 OBO.

Then...Suzuki makes a 1200S Bandit for only $7399 MSRP, air-cooled, upright...not bad. 10.98 1/4 @ 122 mph, 144 mph top speed.

Yamaha makes an FZ1, upright naked sports bike based on R1 engine, for $8499 MSRP, quite a bit more performance for not much more money. 10.62 1/4 @ 130 mph, 155 mph top speed.

Then I read about the magazine editor, arrested for speeding in Arizona on his Hayabusa, handcuffed, motorcycle CONFISCATED!
*************************

I think I should just remain satisfied with my KTM520EX/C. No speed guns, no cell-phone-talking soccer moms....just shut up and ride!

plutonious

everybody is being so specific in their posts here about Tundra problems. Compare this drivel to the numerous GM problems threads and it's obvious the Tundra is light-years ahead of the competition, especially the GM competition.

Just curious, how long will it take GM to make an archaic pushrod V8 than runs right? How long will it take GM to make a diesel that runs right? Oh, that's right, they gave up and used Isuzu diesels.

obyone

that dam idiot from that village has to get loose, AGAIN....

sonjaab

Toyota and their rubber band run
cams....I will take those outdated
pushrod v-8s anytime !
Check out www.toyotasolutions.com
Yep...flawless they are !

drgo

Any advice on a good, i.e.convenient way to sell a nice used toyota truck? I'm trying to sell my old friend but haven't had to time to look through the internet/paper. Thought I'd get some good advice from this community. By the way, sometimes one can intentionally use a formerly "incorrect" word to prove a point. Such an example is normalcy instead of normality. Normalcy wasn't a word until a U.S. president used it in a speech. No, it wasn't George Jr.

Craig

losangelesemt

Well I don't have the best way to sell your truck but that truck will be a hot used item if its in any sort of decent condition. Plenty and plenty of people always looking for used Toyota pickups. Just wondering ... was it an older Tacoma, and how did the thing treat ya, current miles, any problems etc. .

arkie6

I check in on this topic periodically to see if there is any useful info regarding my 2 1/2 year old Tundra V8 4x4. Not much to be found. Nothing much has changed here in the past couple of years - you have to weed through 30 off-topic posts to find one that even remotely relates to a Tundra problem. As sonjaab points out, if you need info on a Tundra (the good and the bad), go to www.tundrasolutions.com

BTW, I just changed the plugs on my V8 Tundra at 29,500 miles. The ones I removed (Denso K20R-U) had minimal wear on the center electrode and looked textbook for a properly performing engine. I replaced them with Denso Iridium IK20 performance plugs. I can't really tell any seat of the pants difference. Another member at Tundrasolutions dynoed his truck before and after the Denso Iridiums and saw a 4 HP gain with the iridiums. I'll be keeping an eye on gas mileage though, but it will be hard to top the 21.4 MPG I got on my last road trip of 375 miles.

drgo, if you are trying to sell a vehicle, you might look into www.autotrader.com

PF_Flyer

If you want to talking motorcycles or singing pigs, you might try using Google to find a message board that suits you. But please don't post in this topic just for the sake of posting.

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duckshooter

Were any of your plugs more crusty or gunky than the others or were all 8 the same?

What does the book say on replacement?

I'm at 22K now (I put on miles slowly) - still a flawless performer, though I'll probably have to stop in to the dealer to get the seat belt retractors adjusted - my 4Runner had the same problem.

Jeff

bamatundra

Oby: "that dam idiot"

Perhaps you should learn how to spell "damn" before trying to insult someone.

Man! - is this the best the GM boys can come up with? Oh, he owns a Lemonado - that explains everything.