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Ford Five Hundred/Mercury Montego

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  • First of all id like to thank mr pat for reopenning the topic . I am very glad to see a car from ford company like ford 500 because alot of ford cars are really old models but ford 500 really beautifull and stylish what I hope from ford company is to care about the quality of their cars like the japanese cars and to be better than the Japanese cars .Many people in SA prefers the Japanese models so CAMRY is the largest number of the cars there midsize and LEXUS is the largest number of luxurious cars I hope ford to be like camry and lexus
    thank you
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    The transmission is being made by ZF-Batavia, and thoroughly tested. Much has changed since the days of the Eagle Premeire though.

    "Will GM yet design a car for the masses with DOHC and V6 format."

    This isn't an area that GM will concentrate on. They insist on using OHV designed engines, and try to save face stating publically that in the future they are able to implement (displacement on demand-cylinder deactivating for fuel efficiency). Then about a month later Honda stated it could do that with it's OHC engines.

    Now they revamping their OHV engines and improving it in other ways, YET there's no mistaking it for anything but a OHV, specially how they sound. Yet while they work this plan out, they are offering OHC engines on their Buick Rendezvous (previously had a OHV) stating that it's what their customer's want.

    The Saturn VUE Redline will use Honda 3.5L OHC engine, in a deal with GM. Saturn has always used OHC designed engines. This a brand that they started to woo import lovers back to GM.

    Is this to say their lower branded customer's actually want OHV while ALL the other competitors are offering OHC ? Or can we view this as other's could get a better engine offering at the competition ? Or is GM trying to say that they'll please those willing to pay for a Buick and Cadillac, but not those of the lower makes ?
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    Here's a pre-released teaser pic.

    http://www.chriszx3.com/f500.jpg
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Looks pretty good, ANT, thanks. Can't get a feel for the size of it. How much bigger than a Taurus is it? I assume it's FWD, right?

    LOVE the Mustang!! :)
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    It'll be classified as large sized. But what's important is that while it's exterior dimensions are trim, the interior will be rather large for what the exterior dimensions are.

    Unlike the current Taurus which is about 200inches long, but the interior volume doesn't maximize that exterior potential.

    It'll be FWD, Optional AWD. 6 Speed Auto and CVT.

    I'm posting another link to it, since the previous one must have been bombarded with hits or taken offline...

    http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/231203-106016541HjnnQE_ph.jpg
  • Impala/Avalon sized.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Hmmmmm, well it all depends on the interior dimensions, doesn't it. With me it's all about the inside, and how it drives.
  • setzersetzer Posts: 127
    I know someone who has an '03 Taurus SEL, and it is built very solid. It is also a well-built car as well. If Ford wants to suceed with this Five-Hundred and the Futura (coming in a few years) they don't only need good looks, they need the same kind of solidness that the current Taurus has.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Posts: 792
    Car-data.com has photos of the actual Five Hundred and a long article. Wow! The car will be an instant success.

    After the Thunderbird, I wondered about J. Mays, but the new Five Hundred, Freestyle, and Mustang show that Ford is staging a massive turn-around.

    Ford has really done the difficult reaserch and design work to meet the needs of the marketplace. The easy entry, excellent visibility, and comfortable driving position, coupled with the interior space and large trunk will allow many people to buy the car they really want, rather than an SUV or minivan. The handsome Limited all wheel drive model will really appeal to people who can't or won't spend $50,000 on a car.

    Chrysler is going down the road to ruin with high beltlines and lowered roofs. Toyota's Camry / Highlander do not have the advanced safety features, size, looks, or other advanced features of the Five Hundred / Freestyle.
  • buckwheatbuckwheat Posts: 396
    Thanks for the site listing, below is a link to the site and another link to a photo of J Mays..

    http://www.car-data.com/xpage.preview/pre.template.asp?mfg=ford&a- mp;model=fivehundred

    http://www.wieck.com/public/*2PV_047211
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    After reading that, the 500 should make instant old news out of the Impala (not that it would be hard to do that), but it sure looks like an Avalon to me.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Posts: 792
    The GM Midsize cars (Impala, Gran Prix, Regal) really are old news, since the basic design dates to 1986 or 1987. The new Five Hundred / Montego / Freestyle are vastly superior new designs. GM may try to deeply discount their old designs, but it should be obvious to all but rental fleet buyers that the new Ford products are the best value.
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    The Five-Hundred sedan will surely turn heads. A Mercedes-like rear end, Passat like sides, and Audi-ish front. :-)

    The final details aren't out yet, but this vehicle will simply outclass it's competition in the full-size class. You can't begin to imagine the techonology and engineering that's being placed upon this vehicle. More importantly, largest trunk of any passenger car (this beating Ford's own Crown Vic/Town Car/Grand Marquis). As well as a large interior for it's very small exterior porportions (3 inches larger than a Taurus). Just as how the Focus set an example in it's class, for this similar point.

    The rear seat has twice the kneeroom that of Ford's own CV/GM/TC, even more than Rolls Royce Phantom, while the truck at around 21cu.ft can fit about 8 golf bags.

    The official unveiling will reveal more information/specifics, pertaining to this.

    As for the Montego, it'll feature items standard, that might be an option over the 500, as well as different trim pieces. Just as most Mercury's have been, in the Ford family.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Posts: 792
    The Detroit auto show opened to the press this morning, and the Car Connection at

    http://www.thecarconenction.com

    has more real photos and reviews of the Five Hundred / Montego / Freestyle, plus the new Mustang.

    ANT14 - I agree with you that the Five Hundred rear end look very similar to the latest Mercedes-Benz E class, and is very handsome. However, I think that the front end looks far better than any of the overly-rounded Audi models, and the whole car looks far better than any of the Volvos.
  • deerlake7deerlake7 Posts: 175
    Both the 500 & Freestyle look great. They may entice me to move away from my Passat & Pilot. Is the 3.5 litre engine going to be available before the fall of 2005?
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    By request, I added the Mercury Montego to this discussion ...
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    "Both the 500 & Freestyle look great. They may entice me to move away from my Passat & Pilot. Is the 3.5 litre engine going to be available before the fall of 2005?"

    I'm not sure about that at this time. Although don't let the regular 3.0L Duratec 30 full you, it's acceleration will be aided by the transmissions which will/can be geared up to 6:1 ratio, much higher than the currently high 4:1.
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    "By request, I added the Mercury Montego to this discussion ... "

    There was already a 2005 mercury Montego discussion which is READ_ONLY, why not just open that one up?
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    Here's the media kit pertaining to the 500, with more information.

    http://media.ford.com/products/model.cfm?vehicle_id=1051

    Source: Ford Media
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Don't you think we should talk about both of these vehicles in the same place? That's what we do with the Taurus and Sable, so it made sense to me.

    What does everyone else think?
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    Either one, doesn't matter to me. I just remembered there being a Montego forum as well, in case some might do a search for just that vehicle and find the forum closed.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Posts: 792
    ANT14 & Pat - The two are the same car, so it makes good sense to have one forum, but to have two links - Five Hundred / Montego under Ford, and Montego / Five Hundred under Mercury.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    It does show up in a search for either using the Make/Model search feature.

    :-)
  • buckwheatbuckwheat Posts: 396
    I think what fsmmcsi wanted members to see is the following:

    http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=6727
  • beer47beer47 Posts: 185
    What will the new "500" cost? Anybody have an idea?
  • ehaaseehaase Posts: 328
    Latest reports indicate that the base price will be around $22,000. I am sure that well equipped versions will be $30,000 or more.
  • buckwheatbuckwheat Posts: 396
    The first 8 pages of the link below will display about 62 photos of the Five Hundred or parts related to same. If your a first time visitor to Wieck simply click on each photo to enlarge and if you want larger click again.

    http://www.wieck.com/public/*wieck_search?ws4d_nav=true&opera- tor=and&source=wik&source=wka&source=wkt&Page=1&a- mp;operator=and&search_criteria=hundred&operator=and&- search_criteria=&keyword=&Sort=import_date&submit_but- ton=Search&URL=index.html
  • biggie2biggie2 Posts: 45
    Thank for the many pics...

    It is crazy how much VW influence J Mays has put into this vehicle. The window up/down buttons are almost exactly like the ones in my Jetta...

    Fine by me...
  • biggie2biggie2 Posts: 45
    When will the 3.5 being to be introduced into Ford cars/vans/trucks or whatever else they are planning to do with this engine?
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