From what I've seen of the various owners that post...the age range is fantastic, which means it's not drawing in just one specific demograpic. I've also seen a variety of walks of life as well, engineers, students, mechanics, IT specialists, men and women alike.
The last thing I see is a quality I think all of us owners share is passion and pride. Have you noticed how quickly one jumps on someone when they seem to bad talk the Azera? WHOA!!!
I'm glad to be a part of this...that's for sure!!!
Spirited indeed . . and that is what makes it so interesting.
Wonder what the age differences are?
No one will ever guess mine. Or what my occupation is. :confuse:
But one fact that I will give you is that I'm a genuine certified 'car nut' and am really interested in the Hyundia line and particularly Azeras, unless the Genesis gets here soon enough.
I'm new to this forum and I haven't read the previous posts. I should have the Infinity Audio System in my new Ltd Ult. Can anybody tell me how to find out. The owners manual has just a generic description and nothing specific about Infinity.
If you have the Limited w/Ultimate package...you DEFINITELY have the Infinity Audio system. You should see Infinity on the speaker covers as the amplifier and the speakers are the only part that are made by Infinity, the stereo itself is not made by Infinity, but because a majority of the components that make up the sound system are made by Infinity, they are allowed to call it an Infinity Audio System.
No problem. The Infinity system is actually pretty good considering it's a factory system. I upgraded mine with aftermarket Infinity speakers and the sound is even more amazing.
Has anyone installed a Motorola IHF 1000 Bluetooth car kit to an Azera Ultimate with the Infinity Sound System? If so, can it be installed so that the factory audio system mutes when the phone is being used as well as the phone sound coming thru the cars speakers. Motorola does not want to assure me that it will operate with all functions in the Azera with Infinity sound.
I've been waiting to see a new Limited with the new ultimate package on it, the one with the new upgraded sound system in in, and I saw one yesterday. I grabbed a CD from my car and the salesmen I've been working with to play with it and see if it sound much better. The problem is once he handed me the keys, I than wanted to go for a test drive and I was to busy playing with the car instead of the stereo, which is what I really wanted to do. I also had my daughter and salesmen in the car with me so I didn't get a chance to play much and see how much difference there is. But here is what I've notice so far, first there are 2 more speakers sitting on the rear deck, my salesmen also told me that there are 2 sub-woofers, but I'm not sure on that, I think he may be wrong. Next there was something different about the unit itself, than I realized there is no cassette anymore, which is fine with me. From the little bit I did hear It sound good to me but I'm going to have to stop by again and really play with the system by myself.
RE: 221 The only problem with no cassette is that as there is no Ipod input, some people use the cassette wired input for their Ipods. I use a FM transmitter, but it sometimes has static.
That's understandable. but for me personally, I don't have an Ipod and don't plan on getting one and I would rather not have the cassette there. I guess some people are going to have to find another way to hook up there Ipods.
Here's what Edmunds has listed for the new $3100 option for the latest Azera Limited sound system.
Option Group 25 Ultimate Package: Includes vehicle with standard equipment, power tilt and slide sunroof, premium Infinity surround sound with AM/FM/Cassette/MP3 audio system with 6-disc in-dash CD changer, 315-watt amplifier and 10 speakers including subwoofer, power adjustable tilt and telescopic steering wheel, power adjustable foot pedals, power folding side mirrors with turn signal indicators, rain-sensing wipers and integrated memory system includes power driver's seat, exterior mirrors and power tilt and telescoping steering wheel.
So your salesperson was at least half correct in that there may be at least one subwoofer. Someone here said that there was no longer a cassette, but this package lists one. :confuse:
Anyhow, they have what they have.
Interesting in that one of our local dealers does not have any Limiteds that have XM, but he does have several of the less expensive GLS models that do have that feature. Also, at least half of the Sonatas in stock do have XM antennas, so go figure. :confuse:
You'd think that it would be the other way around, woundn't you?
Let me re word myself, There were 3 speakers on the rear deck. the sub-woofer in the same place it usually is and 2 new speakers on each side of the deck, both having the Infinity name on them and a little smaller than the sub-woofer. the salesmen told me the 2nd sub-woofer was somewhere else in the car, which is why i'm not so sure I believe there is a 2nd sub-woofer.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh...okay, that makes sense. I can't imagine them adding a 2nd sub-woofer as the one is plenty. The addition of the rear speakers is for the surround-sound that the newer Infinity system has.
Finally put the Infinity Kappa's in the front doors yesterday.
As allmet33 says - the soundstage is dramatically improved, and no longer dominated by the center channel speaker in the dash pad.
The highs are now clean and crisp, The mids far more detailed, forward and accurate. The bass responce is a bit tighter as well.
Thanx Mike for all the help & encouragement when I stripped a door pannel screw! For anyone else looking to do this, the link Mike provided (post #190) is a big help. Also, the screws by the door handle under the palstic cover were unbelivably tight on my 2006. Be careful not to strip the head!
Thanks for sharing. I am encouraged to hear that a 2nd person found the sound improvement! (allmet33 1st) I have just ordered the following: Infinity Kappa 62.7i - for the front Infinity Kappa 60.7CS - for the rear Orion HCCA-D1200 - to drive my HCCA 12D SUB
Can't wait to work on this project and will definitely let you guys know the outcome.
Many thanks to you both for sharing as it encouraged me to pull the trigger and do this project.
When you remove the 2 screws by the door handle, be careful. You may wish to lossen the 1st and then rather than remove it, tighten it back up so as to lessen the load on the 2nd. Then loosen the 2nd & you should be home free. If you run into any difficulty, feel free to contact me at theblackhole@optonline.net
I have the 06 limited with ultimate pkg and as far as I can tell my volume has never adjusted with speed. I wonder if I should take this to dealer also I don't have any lights on the side mirrors and I think it is suppose to have that also?
Two speakers that will work nicely...Infinity Kappa 62.7i or the JBL GTO627, both are 6.5" speakers that come with adapter rings to fit a 6.75" opening. The speakers are also rated at a 2 ohm impedence which is what the factory speakers are as well.
To allmett33;
You said that the Infinity Kappa 62.7i will work just fine. Just wondering why Crutchfeild say they won't fit in the front doors of an Azera?
Richdag...I wouldn't take everything that Crutchfield says as the golden rule. They said I couldn't put a double din stereo in both my '02 Sonata or my '06 Azera (at first). They also told me as well that the Infinity Kappas wouldn't fit in the doors. Well...I have pictures to prove that they do indeed fit and with no problem. I can also point to a couple of guys that followed my suggestion of the Infinity Kappa upgrade and did so successfully as well.
Was there any modification necessary to install the speakers, only if you consider drilling new holes for the screws. I guess if the speakers didn't come with the adapter rings, then they wouldn't fit. My only advice would be to make sure any 6.5" speaker you select comes with an adaper ring to fit a 6.75" opening. If not...you'll have to make one yourself out of some 1/4" plywood or other material that would work.
To answer your question...I really don't know why Crutchfield says they won't fit. Clearly they do.
I would definitely get the automatic sound level thing checked out. Having an '06, however...you do not get the lights on the side mirrors, that's an '07 upgrade. You can order the mirrors and install them yourself if you want. One place that sells them is:
I too questioned allmet33 on the fit of the Infinity Kappa's before my purchase, as I saw that Crutchfield said no for the front and yes for the rear. allmet33 assured me they fit, just as he is doing for you. HE IS CORRECT! With the adapter ring that is included in the box they have enough clearance for the window to come down all the way.
One thing I did not mention, that may have influenced Cruthfields calim is the outbound crossover and the wires. You'll need to mount it securely. Like allmet33, I chose to mount it inside the door in the lower front corner, on the inside edge so as to keep it away from the window & window guides. I would recommend securing the wires to the inside edge of the door as well to avoid the window from catching them (this would be true of any speaker).
I lined the speaker adapter with thin sel-stick weatherstripping foam on each side to eliminate the chance of buzzing & rattling in the doors. You'll notice that the stock speakers' housing also uses a foam insulation for the same purpose.
Bottom-line, allmet33 knows what he is talking about.
I'll probably do the rear doors as well with the same 62.7 Infinity Kappa's. Unlike the front single speaker units in the lower door, the stock rear doors have a "coax / [non-permissible content removed] cone", so I want to replace them with a true coax speaker unit.
Another thing you can do is use an industrial strength double sided tape to mount the outboard crossover to the door in a place that allows clearance by the door panel.
If you love the sound with the Kappas up front now...wait till you replace the rear ones!
Sergio...can I ask you why you went with the 60.7CS for the rear??? I didn't think I needed the same ones. Did I make a mistake?
I think when you get everything in...you will be MORE than pleased. I can't wait to hear the difference. I will surely let you know. thanks
Did you keep the factory head unit or has that been replaced as well? Yes I'm keeping the factory unit in. I'm not sure if there's a line out for the amp to drive a sub. I sure hope so!
Yes...the four door speakers can be the same. The factory speakers in the rear doors are actually coaxials. So you'll have to find a place to install the tweeter with your component set.
Unless you use the 60.7CS's up front and you replace the factory tweeter with the component tweeter, but...you won't get the extra tweeters up front by using coaxials up there.
When I replaced mine, I went with 2 pair of the 62.7i's and this allowed me to add another pair of tweeters up front.
As far as the factory head unit goes...there is no line output for an aftermarket amp. You will need to install a hi/lo converter on the rear speaker outputs behind the head unit (before the signal is amped), then run RCA's from that to the back where your new amp will be.
Sorry about that...I made a mistake. I meant the 60.7CS goes in the front and the 62.7i goes in the back.
As far as the factory head unit goes...there is no line output for an aftermarket amp. You will need to install a hi/lo converter on the rear speaker outputs behind the head unit (before the signal is amped), then run RCA's from that to the back where your new amp will be. This will be a challenge for me!
That'll work much, much better. I'm sure you'll notice a difference by replace the factory tweeter with the aftermarket ones included with the components.
Personally, after putting the coaxials in the front door, I've now heard there to be no reason to replace the factory tweeters.
Actually...it doesn't have to be as challenging as you think. You'll just need to find out which set of wires coming of the back of the factory unit are for the rear speakers. Then, just splice the hi/lo converter device onto those wires. Once that is done, run your RCA cables from behind the unit to the rear of the car (very easy to do I might add. I took my driver's seat out and ran them along the center console and under the little bit of carpet between the console and the rear seat. The power wire for the amp I ran along the driver's side under the door sills. I have the remote on tapped into the fuse box so the aftermarket amp only comes on when the car is actually on to make sure the battery isn't run down unnecessarily.
One advantage you have with replacing the speakers at this point is the speaker wire harnesses that are available to basically just plug and play. I wasn't so lucky and I had to cut my factory harnesses to each of the speakers and play around to make sure I had the polarity correct.
Trust me when I tell you, as much as you may like the factory system as is, when you replace the door speakers...the system comes alive and you will be shocked at how much better it will sound. Instead of just listening to music, you'll be immersed in it. Watch...you'll see.
Anyway, just glad I can help out. Oh yeah...if you need help removing the panel to access the factory head unit...it sounds harder than it really is, but once you get all the screws...it's quite easy.
I trust you've seen the guide on replacing the door speakers.
Another thing you might want to think about is a sound deadner for your doors...dyna-mat, accu-mat, hush-mat...any of them will work nicely.
Cool, cool. As far as getting the panel off for the stereo...
Remove the woodgrain trim at the top of the dash over teh radio (extends to passenger side of car), you will see 3 screw...remove them. There are two screws located at the bottom of the console, right under the cubby hole with the door and right above the ash tray. If you slide your fingers along that bottom, you'll feel the two openings.
The last screw to remove is actually located under the ignition and to get to that one, you have to lower the panel under the steering wheel. There is a screw located behind the fuse panel door that must be removed and then two screws at the bottom of the panel on each side. Once the screws are out, pop the panel down (it doesn't have to come all the way off) so you can access the one screw and remove that.
To remove the console panel...get a good grip on it and pull towards you until it pops off. Then all you have to do is disconnect all the harnesses attached to it.
As far as the assistance...no problem, glad I could help! If you have any other questions or concerns, let me know.
Just bought an Azera Limited with the $3100 Ultimate option. It says it includes the "Premium Infinity Audio w/Logic7 Surround Sound". The owners manual shows a unit that looks exactly like mine (M465S) and the picture of the LCD shows a "SUR" icon. But the instructions make no mention of the surround sound or that icon. I've tried every mode and cannot get that icon to show up. I went to the HyundaiUSA web site and they don't even list that unit as an option. Does anyone have any more info on this unit?
I really don't think that would be case here. I mean...it wouldn't even be worth putting in the car then. Surround sound should be able to work regardless of the source or the media.
My understanding of surround sound is that there is discrete information for the front, center, surround, and subwoofer speakers. If that discrete information is not encoded on the CD (it isn't on a "normal" CD), I have a hard time understanding how the new Azera radio is going to output surround sound unless it is somehow synthesized within the unit.
Perhaps someone with more technical knowledge could explain how this works.
Same way it currently utilizes the center channel now. All they did was added two more speakers to the set up. Technically speaking...the '06 Azera I have now has a 5.1 surround sound system in it. Front right / Center / Front left/ Rear right/ Rear left / Sub. Set up correctly, the sound stage is to the front with the rear speakers providing rear fill and bass coming from the sub in the rear of the car.
It's like surround sound at home. True surround sound will come from the media, however...a signal can be split up and sent to various speakers. I truly doubt that Hyundai would have a complex surround system in their cars. Personally, I feel that by them adding the two speakers in the rear deck is enough for them to call it surround sound. Because, at this point, technically...you are surrounded by sound.
The only way to really find out is to get in a newer Azera and check out the new system. Not all surround sound systems are created equal!
Then you know what...it's simply because they added the two speakers in the rear package shelf...that's all. And you know what...in my opinion, it's overkill!
RE: 257 Mike I thought you were the one who said that there is no such thing as overkill. What ever makes one happy is the best way to go. Remember, he who dies with the most toys, wins.
Comments
It's a good thing that us azera owners are few and far between :-)
Well, we've certainly got a spirited bunch here, which is terrific! :P
From what I've seen of the various owners that post...the age range is fantastic, which means it's not drawing in just one specific demograpic. I've also seen a variety of walks of life as well, engineers, students, mechanics, IT specialists, men and women alike.
The last thing I see is a quality I think all of us owners share is passion and pride. Have you noticed how quickly one jumps on someone when they seem to bad talk the Azera? WHOA!!!
I'm glad to be a part of this...that's for sure!!!
Wonder what the age differences are?
No one will ever guess mine. Or what my occupation is. :confuse:
But one fact that I will give you is that I'm a genuine certified 'car nut' and am really interested
in the Hyundia line and particularly Azeras, unless the Genesis gets here soon enough.
Let's continue to keep it lively!
If so, can it be installed so that the factory audio system mutes when the phone is being used as well as the phone sound coming thru the cars speakers.
Motorola does not want to assure me that it will operate with all functions in the Azera with Infinity sound.
Rich
The only problem with no cassette is that as there is no Ipod input, some people use the cassette wired input for their Ipods. I use a FM transmitter, but it sometimes has static.
Rich
Option Group 25 Ultimate Package:
Includes vehicle with standard equipment, power tilt and slide sunroof, premium Infinity surround sound with AM/FM/Cassette/MP3 audio system with 6-disc in-dash CD changer, 315-watt amplifier and 10 speakers including subwoofer, power adjustable tilt and telescopic steering wheel, power adjustable foot pedals, power folding side mirrors with turn signal indicators, rain-sensing wipers and integrated memory system includes power driver's seat, exterior mirrors and power tilt and telescoping steering wheel.
So your salesperson was at least half correct in that there may be at least one subwoofer.
Someone here said that there was no longer a cassette, but this package lists one. :confuse:
Anyhow, they have what they have.
Interesting in that one of our local dealers does not have any Limiteds that have XM, but
he does have several of the less expensive GLS models that do have that feature.
Also, at least half of the Sonatas in stock do have XM antennas, so go figure. :confuse:
You'd think that it would be the other way around, woundn't you?
Rich
As allmet33 says - the soundstage is dramatically improved, and no longer dominated by the center channel speaker in the dash pad.
The highs are now clean and crisp, The mids far more detailed, forward and accurate. The bass responce is a bit tighter as well.
Thanx Mike for all the help & encouragement when I stripped a door pannel screw! For anyone else looking to do this, the link Mike provided (post #190) is a big help. Also, the screws by the door handle under the palstic cover were unbelivably tight on my 2006. Be careful not to strip the head!
Thanks for sharing. I am encouraged to hear that a 2nd person found the sound improvement! (allmet33 1st)
I have just ordered the following:
Infinity Kappa 62.7i - for the front
Infinity Kappa 60.7CS - for the rear
Orion HCCA-D1200 - to drive my HCCA 12D SUB
Can't wait to work on this project and will definitely let you guys know the outcome.
Many thanks to you both for sharing as it encouraged me to pull the trigger and do this project.
Regards,
When you remove the 2 screws by the door handle, be careful. You may wish to lossen the 1st and then rather than remove it, tighten it back up so as to lessen the load on the 2nd. Then loosen the 2nd & you should be home free. If you run into any difficulty, feel free to contact me at
theblackhole@optonline.net
To allmett33;
You said that the Infinity Kappa 62.7i will work just fine. Just wondering why Crutchfeild say they won't fit in the front doors of an Azera?
Rich In FL.
Was there any modification necessary to install the speakers, only if you consider drilling new holes for the screws. I guess if the speakers didn't come with the adapter rings, then they wouldn't fit. My only advice would be to make sure any 6.5" speaker you select comes with an adaper ring to fit a 6.75" opening. If not...you'll have to make one yourself out of some 1/4" plywood or other material that would work.
To answer your question...I really don't know why Crutchfield says they won't fit. Clearly they do.
Good luck!
Korean Auto Imports
I think when you get everything in...you will be MORE than pleased.
Did you keep the factory head unit or has that been replaced as well?
thanks, van
One thing I did not mention, that may have influenced Cruthfields calim is the outbound crossover and the wires. You'll need to mount it securely. Like allmet33, I chose to mount it inside the door in the lower front corner, on the inside edge so as to keep it away from the window & window guides. I would recommend securing the wires to the inside edge of the door as well to avoid the window from catching them (this would be true of any speaker).
I lined the speaker adapter with thin sel-stick weatherstripping foam on each side to eliminate the chance of buzzing & rattling in the doors. You'll notice that the stock speakers' housing also uses a foam insulation for the same purpose.
Bottom-line, allmet33 knows what he is talking about.
I'll probably do the rear doors as well with the same 62.7 Infinity Kappa's. Unlike the front single speaker units in the lower door, the stock rear doors have a "coax / [non-permissible content removed] cone", so I want to replace them with a true coax speaker unit.
Side View Mirrors w/ Lights
If you love the sound with the Kappas up front now...wait till you replace the rear ones!
van
Sergio...can I ask you why you went with the 60.7CS for the rear???
I didn't think I needed the same ones. Did I make a mistake?
I think when you get everything in...you will be MORE than pleased.
I can't wait to hear the difference. I will surely let you know. thanks
Did you keep the factory head unit or has that been replaced as well?
Yes I'm keeping the factory unit in. I'm not sure if there's a line out for the amp to drive a sub. I sure hope so!
Regards,
Unless you use the 60.7CS's up front and you replace the factory tweeter with the component tweeter, but...you won't get the extra tweeters up front by using coaxials up there.
When I replaced mine, I went with 2 pair of the 62.7i's and this allowed me to add another pair of tweeters up front.
As far as the factory head unit goes...there is no line output for an aftermarket amp. You will need to install a hi/lo converter on the rear speaker outputs behind the head unit (before the signal is amped), then run RCA's from that to the back where your new amp will be.
Sorry about that...I made a mistake. I meant the 60.7CS goes in the front and the 62.7i goes in the back.
As far as the factory head unit goes...there is no line output for an aftermarket amp. You will need to install a hi/lo converter on the rear speaker outputs behind the head unit (before the signal is amped), then run RCA's from that to the back where your new amp will be.
This will be a challenge for me!
Thanks again
Personally, after putting the coaxials in the front door, I've now heard there to be no reason to replace the factory tweeters.
Actually...it doesn't have to be as challenging as you think. You'll just need to find out which set of wires coming of the back of the factory unit are for the rear speakers. Then, just splice the hi/lo converter device onto those wires. Once that is done, run your RCA cables from behind the unit to the rear of the car (very easy to do I might add. I took my driver's seat out and ran them along the center console and under the little bit of carpet between the console and the rear seat. The power wire for the amp I ran along the driver's side under the door sills. I have the remote on tapped into the fuse box so the aftermarket amp only comes on when the car is actually on to make sure the battery isn't run down unnecessarily.
One advantage you have with replacing the speakers at this point is the speaker wire harnesses that are available to basically just plug and play. I wasn't so lucky and I had to cut my factory harnesses to each of the speakers and play around to make sure I had the polarity correct.
Trust me when I tell you, as much as you may like the factory system as is, when you replace the door speakers...the system comes alive and you will be shocked at how much better it will sound. Instead of just listening to music, you'll be immersed in it. Watch...you'll see.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate your feedback, tips, howto, experience you are providing. Thank you soo much!
I'm looking forward to doing this project and will share my experience and the difference I'll be experiencing with my new setup!
Now all I need to do is wait till everything arrives and get started. Unfortunately delivery is set between 2 and 3 weeks from now.
Sincerest regards,
Anyway, just glad I can help out. Oh yeah...if you need help removing the panel to access the factory head unit...it sounds harder than it really is, but once you get all the screws...it's quite easy.
I trust you've seen the guide on replacing the door speakers.
Another thing you might want to think about is a sound deadner for your doors...dyna-mat, accu-mat, hush-mat...any of them will work nicely.
As for the head unit, if you have anything that can help me out, I love to hear about it.
For the doors, for now, I'll leave it as is.
thanks again for everything.
PS. You're right about anticipation. It already is pretty painful! :sick:
Remove the woodgrain trim at the top of the dash over teh radio (extends to passenger side of car), you will see 3 screw...remove them. There are two screws located at the bottom of the console, right under the cubby hole with the door and right above the ash tray. If you slide your fingers along that bottom, you'll feel the two openings.
The last screw to remove is actually located under the ignition and to get to that one, you have to lower the panel under the steering wheel. There is a screw located behind the fuse panel door that must be removed and then two screws at the bottom of the panel on each side. Once the screws are out, pop the panel down (it doesn't have to come all the way off) so you can access the one screw and remove that.
To remove the console panel...get a good grip on it and pull towards you until it pops off. Then all you have to do is disconnect all the harnesses attached to it.
As far as the assistance...no problem, glad I could help! If you have any other questions or concerns, let me know.
Good luck!!!
As soon as it's done I will report back.
Sergio
Perhaps someone with more technical knowledge could explain how this works.
It's like surround sound at home. True surround sound will come from the media, however...a signal can be split up and sent to various speakers. I truly doubt that Hyundai would have a complex surround system in their cars. Personally, I feel that by them adding the two speakers in the rear deck is enough for them to call it surround sound. Because, at this point, technically...you are surrounded by sound.
The only way to really find out is to get in a newer Azera and check out the new system. Not all surround sound systems are created equal!
Mike
I thought you were the one who said that there is no such thing as overkill. What ever makes one happy is the best way to go.
Remember, he who dies with the most toys, wins.