Toyota Land Cruiser

philg87

Wait about a month and see what's going on then. Not to many people buy cars for Christmas presents.

philg87

Cliffy1 can you tell me if Toyota will build the TLC in the following colors mahogany pearl,imperial jade mica & atlantis blue mica?I was told they would not make those colors any more I find this hard to believe.

cliffy1

I'll see if I can find out later today. It is possible that they will be made but possibly not shipped to your region.

philg87

Thanks cliffy.I'm in the mid west Illinois/Indiana I want mahogany pearl I tried in 01 an couldn't get it. If they don't make them for my region how do I locate one from somewhere else and see if they could do a dealer trade or just buy it from the dealer who has it?

cliffy1

Mahogany is still made, but in VERY low numbers. There is only one in that color being shipped to the central Atlantic region and I don't know who it is going to.

If there are none going to your region, you're going to have to find a dealer who is willing to work for you. Dealers CAN do out of region trades but the trick will be to find a dealer who is willing to take the time and effort to do it. This also means your negotiation position will not be too good in terms of price.

I no longer have access to our locator system so I can't help you actually finding one. When you go to your dealer, you should probably get a manager involved pretty quickly. Make sure he understands that you are inflexible on color but are flexible on time-frame.

philg87

thank you very much for the information but let me ask you this. How do you tell a dealer who told you they don't make that color any more which I thought was not true that you have facts that they do make it and where they need to start looking for it at?

cliffy1

The color chart is right on the Toyota web site and the mahogany is listed. You may even politely tell them you were at an Internet bulletin board and one of the members mentioned that the new locator system called "Dealer Daily" allowed for out of region dealer exchanges on Japanese built vehicles. If you use those terms, they will know you have credible information.

philg87

once again thanks you've been a great help!I will start my journey again tomorrow.

derfstew3

In order to increase safety while braking in snow or ice conditions has anyone tried the "cable style snow chains on the 275/70/16 Michelin M+S that come on the 97 TLC?

hicaira

I use cable type on my 98. No problems so far. Note that they are not as good as link chains in the really deep stuff but are better (in my opinion anyway) on ice, for corning and for braking. I can also go a bit faster with the cable type and they are A LOT quieter.

FWIW, I carry two sets. I start with one set on the rear. If I get into the deep unplowed stuff I add the front set. I've been able to get through powder that was up to the top of the wheels with the four chain set-up. In the wet stuff it has been good for snow about 2'deep. Open diffs unless I start to bog, then center diff lock.

Have fun.

HiC

PS: carry a shovel

poppadoc1

I'D APPRECIATE ANY INFO REGARDING A FAIR PRIVATE SALE PURCHASE PRICE FOR A 5 YR OLD TLC IN GOOD TO EXCELLENT CONDITION WITH LEATHER, SUN ROOF & LESS THAN 75K. ALSO I'VE HEARD RUMORS THAT 2002 WILL BE THE LAST MODEL YEAR AVAILABLE HERE IN THE USA. ANY TRUTH TO THIS? THANKS

stever

Edmunds.com True Market Value tool will give you a customized appraisal.

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saupe130

First post here folks. I'm looking to buy a used TLC for the spousal unit. I'm not cheap (although she would argue with me), but I do like to spend money wisely, and spend it once. Everything I've read and heard about these vehicles has been positive, except for the gas mileage, which is typically not mentioned. The question is this: what am I looking at here, highway and around town, and is there a difference between the in line six in the older ones and the V-8 in the newer ones? Also, why doesn't Toyota sell 5-speed versions here? I've been overseas on numerous occasions to the middle east, where no one is concerned about fuel economy, and 5-speed versions are as common as fleas on a hound dog. Thanks in advance for any responses.

tidester

saupe,

Welcome aboard! I am sure the "old-timers" here will be more than happy to share their experiences with you.

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philg87

Thanks for the insight about how to tell the dealer they were lazy for saying they don't make the color I wanted to buy. They got on the phone and called their regional manager and he instructed them on how to find the TLC I wanted since they have had my money since 7-5-01.

ravick

Can't help you on the in-line 6 Saupe, but on my 2000 LC (V-8), I typically get about 14 mpg on surface streets and about 15.5-16.5 mpg on the highways. I've paid pretty close attention to gas millage on my vehicle and these values are averaged for over 35K, so you can put your money on them. For the 1st 3K miles or so you will see substantially lower gas millage. Hope this helps....

tlc_utah

I have a 2000 TLC and am getting the same mileages as mentioned by ravick.

There is a lot of difference between the inline 6 and the new v8 engines. You have to drive to fell the difference. V8 has a little more power. The feel of both of the vehicles is very different. I personally like both of them ( pre 1998 and post 1998 versions ).

buttenob

I am looking for a 93-97 Landcruiser as well...and I also try to spend my money wisely! I have looked at Grand Cherokees but fear to get a 1 of many which turn out to be nothing but trouble.
Any key things to look out for i.e. 4wd system flaws on these 93-97 models? High mileage a real concern for this particular 6 cycl. engine

poppadoc1

THANKS FOR THE RESPONSE STEVE. I'M AWARE OF TMV HERE. IT'S GREAT AS IS THIS SITE IN GENERAL I'VE HEARD THAT TLC OWNERS OFTEN SEEK INFLATED PRICES FOR THEIR USED VEHICLES. I'M BEGINNING TO BELIEVE IT'S TRUE JUDGING FROM THE AMOUNT OF RESPONSES TO MY INQUIRY. DO YOU KNOW WHEN "FUTURE TELLING" WILL BE UPDATED AGAIN? THANKS AGAIN FOR THE RESPONSE.

stever

Heh, try printing out the TMV page for those sellers :-)

I don't know when the editorial guys will update Future Telling next (probably is a monthly thing) - is there a specific request I can pass along?

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lc2000

I have a 2000 that just turned 17,000. From day one I regularly got 18 plus miles per gallon on the highway at speeds between 65 and 70. However, driving at anything over 70 mph, drops the miles per gallon down to between 16 and 17. Around town, and I really, really try for good economy, I have never gotten better than 12 or 13 miles per gallon.

Hope this helps.

saupe130

Thanks for the heads up on the mileage folks. Responses seem to hold pretty close to what I have expected. lc 2000, you are the dude on the highway but around town sounds like giving up a kidney! Yow! But I guess you have to amortize the generalization that you don't have to lay out funds for a new vehicle as often since you bought quality to begin with. If I ever get back home, I'll try to nail an LC down and snag it. Thanks again to all responders.

dmac8

In addition to the power advantages, is the present V8 a potentially much more durable engine than the 24valve six?

How many miles, with regular maintenance could you expect from each one?

ironside7

Will the rear differential locker on a 98 TLC engage only if one rear wheel is spinning relative to the other? I've attempted to lock the rear diff on a dry, flat surface (as a test), and the red rear diff locking light on the dash just kept blinking. I even tried rolling forward a little (keeping the wheel straight, of course) with no success. Any insights would be helpful.

Thanks in advance.

cliffy1

They've had your money since July?!!! Holy Cow. I'm glad they got off the ball and are in the process of finding the one you want but it is a shame it took so long.

tidester

They've had your money since July?!!! Holy Cow.

Well, at least interest rates are low so the loss wasn't too bad!

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joeeblow1

Will the rear differential locker on a 98 TLC engage only if one rear wheel is spinning relative to the other? I've attempted to lock the rear diff on a dry, flat surface (as a test), and the red rear diff locking light on the dash just kept blinking. I even tried rolling forward a little (keeping the wheel straight, of course) with no success. Any insights would be helpful.

I don't have a '98 uzj100, but I'll give you my understanding of how it works. Did you have the center diff locked? The rear diff will probably not lock without the center diff locked. No, it shouldn't need speed differential to lock the diff, but it may take some wheel movement forward or back to line everything up. It does not engage as quickly as an ARB.

ironside7

Thanks for the reply Joeblow1.

Yes, when trying to engage the rear diff the center differential was locked (and the transmission was in low gear). I'm concerned that my rear diff locker is not working, and would hate to find out for sure when I really need it. If anyone with experience in locking a rear diff on a ujz100 could tell me how this was accomplished, it would be much appreciated. The owners' manual is pretty vague on this issue.

philg87

Oh I told them about the time frame and the interest rates and I said you need to include life time oil changes. I have been very patient with them because I know what I want to buy one color choice and they have push other colors at me.

loma1

From what I've heard I think the transfer case needs to be in low as well as having the center diff locked. You can try on a gravel road putting all those things together and then driving while weaving somewhat to have one wheel spin faster to get the gears to line up. I've also heard that figure 8's work if you have an empty lot or something.

Gary

bobbo27

I have plans to install a rear entertainment system in the back on my '99 TLC before a long drive to Sun Valley, ID over the Christmas/New Years holiday. This is primarily for my two children as I will most certainly be the pilot for these types of road trips.

I'm interested in TLC owners thoughts regarding the size of a drop down rear LCD (it's a more cost effective solution than dual headrest displays- and although the 'moving disengagment' concern is bypass able, I'm not convinced that replacing the factory head unit and putting the system as a pop out in the dash is the way to go)and if the LCD's placement is too close to rear passengers in the first row (the moonroof causes it to be set back further than what would be considered 'ideal') or the 8" size is to large. My concerns with this LCD placement are also influenced by the fact that both of my children are still in car seats... I'm not sure if I'd like them sitting on top of the screen! My only other option as far as screen size is concerned is to go with the 6.8" Alpine LCD which has nowhere near the picture quality as the Audiovox (strange but true). Maybe it's an ego thing... but for the $$, it's a bit hard for me to justify going smaller than 8" (though I don't want something as unnecessary as this to send my kids to the optometrist!).

I'm wondering if any of the owners reading this board have recently installed a system they are satisfied with? As I mentioned, I am looking at an Audiovox system... separate DVD player from the OEM head unit mounted under one of the seats... with an 8" drop down monitor. Audiovox has a package that includes the 8" screen housed in a custom shroud, w/ FM modulator and TV tuner (reception is worthless, but it is in the package nonetheless).

Can anyone provide any insight?

Thanks in advance!

hicaira

I have a 98 and when the TC is in low range the center automatically locks and you can then lock the rear. My rear diff lock indicator light initially blinks but stops blinking as soon as the rear wheels start moving. I have never tried to engage the rear locker in high range though. Likewise, when you turn off the rear diff lock, the light stays lit until the rear wheels move.

Hope that helps,

HiC

ironside7

O.K., I promise that this is my last post regarding my rear diff problems. I tried last night again to engage the rear diff through the following method on a straight, dry surface:

1. Placed the gear selector in neutral
2. Moved the H-L shifter to L (this automatically locked the center diff)
3. Turned the rear diff switch on (this caused the rear diff light to start blinking)
4. Placed the gear selector in Drive
5. Rolled forward approximately 50 yards.

After the 50 yard point, the rear diff light was still blinking. Should my rear diff have engaged under these conditions, or will the rear diff only engage if one rear wheel is slipping?

cliffy1

If the light will not stop blinking, you need to take it to the dealership. It is not engaged and you are operating it correctly. There is probably a problem with the motor used to engage the rear locker.

djernie

bobo27, you asked about entertainment systems. Well i had the audiovox installed in the ceiling right behind the moonroof and i was pleased for about two weeks. Here is the delima. when kids are seated directly in middle of second row seats image is crystal clear, but when seated near window on either side the image is more like shadows not very good at all. This is on the 7" screen. Now when they are seated in the third row its is excelent no matter which place they are seated, and this is because they are not as close to the screen. So i went back and had the two headrest screens put in so that the persons sitting near the windows would have a more enjoyable experience while riding on long trips. my boys could not be happier. First i payed 1400 for the flip down audiovox unit, this price included installation, with two cordless head phones, a dvd player, (i did not want the vcr player because we have more dvd movies) and an fm modulater, which means i can turn my radio to 89.1 and listen to the movie if i choose to. Usually my two boys just put on the headsets and i can listen to my radio while they listen to their movie. (Great) The headrest are now housing 5" screens. I paid 400 for the installation, i purchased the screens from a friend for 100 dollars for both. Now i have to have the front seat passenger sun visor replaced with a 5" visor flip down screen, it cost 400, and my front seat passenger can never feel left out of the entertainment while on long trips. MY last piece of equipment will be the alpine head unit with flip out screen with navigation. That piece is 2000 dollars. But that one will wait until january. Hope this helps i will take some pics and post them on friday.

djernie

bobo i also wanted to say there is no room under the seats to place any of the players, be it vcr or dvd. so i had them remove my cup holders that are in the center console at the bottom facing the middle row seats. They then placed the dvd player in this location. i did not get the tuner at all since we do not need to watch local television while in vehicle. My rig is a 99, it has 71,0000 miles on it, i use synthetic oil. I also use synthetic in my 94 mustang gt and it has 189,000 miles on the original engine. So i believe in synthetic oils.

nota4re

Do everything the same as you described but instead of rolling STRAIGHT forward, make a slow turn. I'm betting that the unit can't engage and by rolling straight yo're not giving it a chance to find an engagement alignment that will work. Turning always worked for me. (I've found that they sometimes will not disengage until you turn too!)

Good luck - let us know what happens.

tnhhudson

I have a 95 with 106k miles. The reading on the oil pressure guage with the vehicle at operating temperature seems low. At idle the needle is in the center of the bottom third and at 2k RPM it is in the center of the of the middle third. I am running 5w-30 Mobile 1.

robsmith

I have a '98 Landcruiser with 50K miles. I've gone back and read through the posts about the transfer case buzz. When my LC is cold and you accelerate I can hear a buzz. I'm assuming this is the transfer case buzz?

Since this is a TSB and my warranty is no longer in effect I'm guessing I will have to pay to have it corrected. Or would this be covered under the 60K mile powertrain warranty?

Can this lead to a serious problem down the road?

philg87

Thanks for your insight it is greatly appreciated.

cliffy1

I personally wouldn't worry about that kind of mileage. Dealer exchanges are pretty common and piling 500 miles on is not uncommon. In fact, I am friends with a person at a dealership in Richmond VA that has very few cars on the lot with fewer than 300 miles.

As for break in periods, I have never been real concerned about it. After speaking to the mechanics here, I believe the only thing to be worried about is the brake pads. It is my opinion that the owner's manual is overly paranoid on this issue and probably only has it in to keep the lawyers happy.

philg87

Thank you cliffy for your insight and talking to your mechanics about it greatly appreciated.

caliking

A couple of months ago I bought my wife a 1999 Toyota Landcruiser. I don't really drive it only on occasion. I was driving last week and it felt abit sluggish. I asked my wife what octane she's been using and she told me 87 octane. I was like "NO, NO, NO only 92 it says it clearly on the fuel door" It's been probably 3 months of 87 octane. Am I gonna have potential problems because she used 87? If so, what can I expect and how much to fix it? I told her to only use 92 from now on, so she'll start with 92 on next fill-up. What else should I do than switch to 92?

zuma13

Hello Caliking,

Don't worry about the 87 octane oversight on the part of your wife. The engine is equipped with an anti-knock sensor which allows for deviations in octane ratings. The timing is either advanced or retarded to compensate for the octane differences.

The main effect you'll experience from using less than 91 or 92 octane, is a loss of power as you indicated. Once you start using the 92 octane, you'll feel a difference in responsiveness.

For your information, the engine is designed to use 87 octane when 91 is unavailable. I'm sure you haven't done any damage to the vehicle. So don't worry.

caliking

Wow! Thank you, you've really relieved my worst fears about the 87 octane. Thanks for the quick response.

phil_satx

We're buying a 2000 LC with 45K miles from Toyota dealer in Austin, Tx if it passes the Toyota certification checks & is so designated. This will extend the power train warranty to 6yr/100K.

It has been recommend that we also purchase the Toyota 6yr/100K total vehicle warranty for $800.

Is this a standard price or also negotiable?

h3ybfpf

Looking to buy 2002 LC in Black or River Rock colors. Willing to travel to get one if the price is right. Have not had any luck finding one in Chicagoland. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

tnhhudson

I am trying to compare my oil pressure to others out there. I have a 95 with 106K miles on it. I am running 5w-30 mobile 1. While idling at normal operating temperature my oil pressure reads between the bottom two bars on the guage. Can someone with an I6 give me some feedback as to whether this is close to theirs.

tnhhudson

How do I get back on the mailing list?

kjack100

Could any owners of a 2001/2002 Landcruiser with nav sytem option provide some feedback regarding the system? Ease of use for radio/ventilation system/GPS inputs?...pleased with it?...etc..thanks for any info.