2014 Mercedes-Benz E-Class Lease Questions

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  • appulsauceappulsauce Member Posts: 7
    Thank you very much for the advise. I will ask them about that. How would what chane my monthly payment if 741 is all inclusive?
    What could I expect with that lower money factor?
    Thanks again.
  • appulsauceappulsauce Member Posts: 7
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    Thanks ghstudio.
    The sales rep said he would get this in writing for me.
    Also does sign and drive mean i use some of my deposit for a first month payment or is sign and drive mean dealer covers first month?
  • ghstudioghstudio Member Posts: 972

    @appulsauce said:
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    Thanks ghstudio.
    The sales rep said he would get this in writing for me.
    Also does sign and drive mean i use some of my deposit for a first month payment or is sign and drive mean dealer covers first month?

    Make sure "in writing" means signed by the sales manager. Sign and drive can mean a lot of things....if you have any questions, ask the dealer (and get it in writing).

  • appulsauceappulsauce Member Posts: 7
    I got this now until end of day today. Should I pull the trigger? Custom order e350c4. In writing.
    65.5 msrp
    59.6 sale
    .00117 mf
    59 rv
    36m
    10k yr
    Sign and drive. First moth due at delivery.
    730m all inclusive.
  • appulsauceappulsauce Member Posts: 7

    I am going to talk to the original dealership tomorrow. Is there anything I should ask for along with them beating that pride or is this a good deal as is?

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,360

    @appulsauce said:
    I got this now until end of day today. Should I pull the trigger? Custom order e350c4. In writing.
    65.5 msrp
    59.6 sale
    .00117 mf
    59 rv
    36m
    10k yr
    Sign and drive. First moth due at delivery.
    730m all inclusive.

    When I plug in your numbers from above I get a pre-tax payment of $697.03, so $730/mo with tax seems right in the ballpark.

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  • 5hlinmd5hlinmd Member Posts: 11

    I am looking for the MF and residuals for a 36 month 10,000 and 12,000 year leases on a E550 cabriolet. Thanks in advance.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,360

    @5hlinmd said:
    I am looking for the MF and residuals for a 36 month 10,000 and 12,000 year leases on a E550 cabriolet. Thanks in advance.

    Standard MF (.00195-.00225) and 55% / 56% residual for 36/12 and 36/10

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  • appulsauceappulsauce Member Posts: 7
    E350c4
    65.5k msrp
    57500 sale
    .00117 mf w/ ap
    59% rv
    36 month
    12k miles
    First month due at delivery
    699 month
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,144

    Nice job! Congrats!

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  • jayt12jayt12 Member Posts: 2

    My wife is looking at 2014 350 e class lease, but the price seems kinda high to me. The car is out of state and apparently will cost around $900 for delivery. She has specific requests for the car, this one matches the closest, but I kind of feel like it's way over priced. We're not in any rush and this model is honestly not exactly what we wanted, was thinking about a custom order on a 2015 with all of the toys. We're in Michigan, thanks for any insight you can provide.

    E-class 350 4matic
    luxury model
    diamond white
    mbtex (diamond white luxury w/ mbtex is main requirement)
    premium 1
    (pretty basic car)
    $61,300

    27m 12k
    $793 mo $1896 due

    or

    27m 12k
    $20,250 one pay

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,360

    @jayt12 said:
    My wife is looking at 2014 350 e class lease, but the price seems kinda high to me. The car is out of state and apparently will cost around $900 for delivery. She has specific requests for the car, this one matches the closest, but I kind of feel like it's way over priced. We're not in any rush and this model is honestly not exactly what we wanted, was thinking about a custom order on a 2015 with all of the toys. We're in Michigan, thanks for any insight you can provide.

    E-class 350 4matic
    luxury model
    diamond white
    mbtex (diamond white luxury w/ mbtex is main requirement)
    premium 1
    (pretty basic car)
    $61,300

    27m 12k
    $793 mo $1896 due

    or

    27m 12k
    $20,250 one pay

    Is the $61,300 the sticker price or the negotiated selling price? We would need both in order to model the payment.

    Base MF is .00136 for RWD sedan, .00130 for 4Matic. Residual is 67% for both (27/12).

    I would agree that $800/mo is pretty steep - if I use $61,300 as both the MSRP and selling price with the .00136 MF and 67% residual, I get a pre-tax payment of $701.14. You should be able to get quite a bit off the MSRP, so the payment would be much lower.

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  • jayt12jayt12 Member Posts: 2

    @Michaell said:
    I would agree that $800/mo is pretty steep - if I use $61,300 as both the MSRP and selling price with the .00136 MF and 67% residual, I get a pre-tax payment of $701.14. You should be able to get quite a bit off the MSRP, so the payment would be much lower.

    Yeah it appears that's the MSRP. We wanted to do a one time pay of the lease if it saved us a lot of money. I didn't really want to create a big stink with the guy, he told me that's all kind of deals and the best they could do. But I thought that seemed pretty high, again having not leased, and the car is a couple states away I'm not sure. I think I found the car http://www.plazamercedesbenz.com/new/Mercedes-Benz/2014-Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-9771d3ce0a0a0064693ade51137b4770.htm

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,144

    When Mercedes is subventing the money factor (like they are on the E350 sedan), then OnePay and MSDs won't really help you save any money. You are better off just keeping your money and doing a traditional lease.

    Some Mercedes dealers will try to mark up every number.. The lease program on the E350 is pretty decent if you find a dealer who doesn't have a boat payment to make.

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  • tmascotmasco Member Posts: 13
    edited June 2014

    We are looking to lease a 2014 E350S4 (wagon) - went to a CT dealer - He put together two quotes (milage difference) (car has to be built and numbers will change to what is in effect at time of delivery) Here are his numbers -

    • MSRP $68,350 + $925.(D&D) = $69,275.

    • Selling Price $64,329 (based on Edmunds this is slightly below actual invoice price)

    • 36 months/19,995 miles per year

    • 4 prepaid maintenance intervals

    • Residual 59% - $41,862.

    • Money factor 5.3% (dealer quote - "money factor is standard rate with auto pay")

    • Doc fee $499.

    • Dealer quote - "Sales tax paid on full value of car not residual"

    • Quote includes autopay & USAA fleet discount

    $1,057./month

    $2,883 due at signing

    --- Quote 36 months at 15,000 miles per year

    $975./month

    $2,883. due at signing

    Quote - "For every additional $1,000. down lowers monthly payment by $27./month"

    Overmilage charge is .25/mile

    Do these numbers seem accurate especially when sales price is slightly below dealer invoice - Am I missing something?

    Is this a good deal - would like to get monthly payment down to $800./month

    Any input would be greatly appreciated!

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,144

    I'm not sure how they calculate a lease with over 15K mi/yr, but the 59% residual is accurate for 36mo, 15K/yr. 5.3% would be equivalent to .0022, which is within the range of the standard money factor (which applies to this model).

    You say you went to a CT dealer. Are you in Massachusetts? If so, I think the dealer is correct about the sales tax situation. His quote about the effect of $1000 down is pretty accurate, as well.

    Low volume Mercedes models almost never have an aggressive lease program, so they aren't cheap to lease. The standard money factor is high, though the residual is pretty good for this model. Given the tax situation, you might not be able to do a lot better. (but, I'd shop around)

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  • hannabhannab Member Posts: 30

    ..."Quote includes autopay & USAA fleet discount"

    It appears to me that you are not being given the correct USAA member selling price, which should be about $7500 off MSRP for that price car.
    Log in to the USAA web site and use the car buying service configurator to get the USAA member price and apply for your certificate which you will need to bring to the dealer.

  • ghstudioghstudio Member Posts: 972

    Since they are using the standard MF, take the maximum multiple security deposits which will reduce the money factor by .0005 and reduce your monthly payments by about $50 or so. I don't have my computer so I ant calc the exact numbers. This is not money down up front, it's essentially a koan to mb for the term of the lease and you get the loan back at the end of the lease.

  • z5470z5470 Member Posts: 28

    Looking at a E350 convertible 2014. Msrp. 66345. They want 2400 down. 740 per mo. including tax. 10 k per yr for 36 months. Includes maintenance.
    Ok deal? Thanks.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,360

    @z5470 said:
    Looking at a E350 convertible 2014. Msrp. 66345. They want 2400 down. 740 per mo. including tax. 10 k per yr for 36 months. Includes maintenance.
    Ok deal? Thanks.

    What is the negotiated selling price? We'll need that before we can evaluate your deal.

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  • z5470z5470 Member Posts: 28

    Will get that for you. My first offer was the same car at 2520 down with 770 per. Selling the car for 60125. 59% resid. JDealer said this is the "Summer event" sale that is ending at the end of the month. He is not sure what the lease deal will be for July. I would think it would be the same. Based on my first offer I just told you about, was that a good deal?

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,360

    @z5470 said:
    Will get that for you. My first offer was the same car at 2520 down with 770 per. Selling the car for 60125. 59% resid. JDealer said this is the "Summer event" sale that is ending at the end of the month. He is not sure what the lease deal will be for July. I would think it would be the same. Based on my first offer I just told you about, was that a good deal?

    36/10 on the E350 convertible is .00118 MF and 59% residual.

    With your MSRP and selling price, I get a pre-tax payment of $699.95.

    I don't know what will happen with the numbers next month, either.

    Seems a fair deal from here.

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  • jamesbond15jamesbond15 Member Posts: 145
    edited June 2014

    2014 E350 with Premium 1 package
    MSRP $56,695
    Sales Price: $45,964 ($10,731 off MSRP)
    +1095 lease acquisition fee
    Adjusted Cap cost: $47059
    27 month lease on excellent credit
    MF: 0.00126 (monthly auto-pay)
    RV: 69% (7.5k miles per year)
    9% sales tax
    Monthly payment around: $438 (tax included)
    Total Drive off $935

    Just a heads up for everyone. If you are in a competitive market you should aim for something similar.

  • ghstudioghstudio Member Posts: 972

    james...that's a good deal, but most lease for more miles and buy a more fully equipped e350.

    Note: MB's lease aquisition fee is $795...your dealer marked that up (which is unfortunately typical).

    Did you have USAA or other "affinity" discounts?

  • z5470z5470 Member Posts: 28

    @Michaell said:
    Seems a fair deal from here.

  • z5470z5470 Member Posts: 28

    Fair deal based on the down payment which includes the first payment ? Do you feel the down payment should be less?

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,360

    @z5470 said:
    Fair deal based on the down payment which includes the first payment ? Do you feel the down payment should be less?

    what is the full break down of the down payment? tags, taxes, fees, etc?

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  • z5470z5470 Member Posts: 28

    Break down of deal is msrp. 66345. Selling price. 60390. 61% LEV which I think means residual. 736 per mo. 36 mos. 10k per year. 2504 down which is first month, 736, mv fees 340.00 doc fee 299 nj tire fee 7.50 ACQ fee 795 online filing 8.20 suppl title fee 241 upp/ACQ/doc fee tax 76. Which rounds out to 2500 bucks. Also includes maintenance. Ok deal?
    Thanks.

  • z5470z5470 Member Posts: 28

    Also lease factor .00120. It seems like they raised the money factor but also increased the residual to 61%?

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,360

    @z5470 said:
    Also lease factor .00120. It seems like they raised the money factor but also increased the residual to 61%?

    The dealer is not allowed to modify the residual - those are set by MB Finance. They could, I suppose, be using a different lending institution that uses different numbers. If so, I don't have any way to validate them.

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  • z5470z5470 Member Posts: 28

    Ok deal or should I fight them for more?

  • z5470z5470 Member Posts: 28

    Using mercedes benz financial

  • porsche911c4sporsche911c4s Member Posts: 99

    For those of you getting deals....is there a cash incentive on the E350 sedan incorporated into your deal? If so how much? I'm helping someone look who has fleet...if we could get 12-13 percent and then use fleet that would be outstanding.

    But I'm not sure if these excellent deals have an incentive already rolled in, in which case we'd have to remove the incentive, and then use fleet.

    Fleet is 4k. Wow. If I hadn't used my fleet on M class in the winter, I would have leased an E also.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,144

    @z5470 said:
    Using mercedes benz financial

    It's hard to comment, because the numbers don't match what we have... which is .00118 and 59% residual. Using our numbers and your MSRP and selling price, I get $707/mo. plus tax..

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  • z5470z5470 Member Posts: 28

    Do you think I could do better on the selling price and do you think the fees they are asking for are correct?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,144

    @z5470 said:
    Do you think I could do better on the selling price and do you think the fees they are asking for are correct?

    The fees all look correct/typical for NJ. I couldn't say about the selling price. You can check our E-Class Prices Paid discussion, here:

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/16862/mercedes-benz/x/2014-mercedes-benz-e-class-prices-paid-and-buying-experience#latest

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  • meldowmeldow Member Posts: 5

    Can somebody tell me the July %/mf for an E350 Sedan?

    12k/27mo 15k/27mo
    12k/36mo 15k/36mo

    Also, does anyone know if the dealer incentives for the month of July are the same as the $3,500 from June? Thanks in advance!

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,144

    @meldow said:
    Can somebody tell me the July %/mf for an E350 Sedan?

    12k/27mo 15k/27mo
    12k/36mo 15k/36mo

    Also, does anyone know if the dealer incentives for the month of July are the same as the $3,500 from June? Thanks in advance!

    .00136 MF and 56% for 36 mo, 15K/yr. 65% for 27mo, 15K/yr.

    Add 2% for 12K/yr. I don't have the incentive information.

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  • meldowmeldow Member Posts: 5

    @kyfdx said:
    Add 2% for 12K/yr. I don't have the incentive information.

    Thanks kyfdx!

  • cg62cg62 Member Posts: 8

    Picked up a E350 sport sedan all wheel drive, 27 months with maintenance 12K 63,000 MSRP, with USAA and window tinting. Total at signing was $900 Payments of $697 per month.

  • corpsvetecorpsvete Member Posts: 7
    Are the above July lease numbers the same for the E350 wagon? If not would you be kind enough to post. Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,360

    @corpsvete said:
    Are the above July lease numbers the same for the E350 wagon? If not would you be kind enough to post. Thanks

    The wagon continues to use the standard MF from MB (.00195-.00225). 36/15 residual is 59%.

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  • 2below2below Member Posts: 3

    just returned my previous e350 for a new one, 62k sticker price, 900 down 583/month. 27 months/ 10k miles/year

    trying to figure out the MF and residuals to see if it's a good deal or not, but I haven't been here for a while and have forgotten. any help?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,144

    @2below said:
    just returned my previous e350 for a new one, 62k sticker price, 900 down 583/month. 27 months/ 10k miles/year

    trying to figure out the MF and residuals to see if it's a good deal or not, but I haven't been here for a while and have forgotten. any help?

    .00136 MF and 68% residual. It would be hard for a lease payment of under $600/mo. on that car to not be a good deal.

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  • rbradleysdrbradleysd Member Posts: 32
    edited July 2014

    Hey All-
    I'm looking to lease a 2014 E250 or E350.
    Equipped like this:
    Polar White
    P1
    Lighting Package
    Sport Styling Package
    Split Folding Rear Seats
    Panoramic Moonroof
    Lane Tracking Package
    MSRP: 60,600
    Looking to put 4k down and lease for 27 months and 20k a year (if possible, if not 18K)

    Can anyone tell me what my lease payment should be at?
    Also dealer is offering about 4500, many people seem to be getting 10k off. Any SoCal folks want to share their salespersons name and dealer?

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,360

    @rbradleysd said:
    Hey All-
    I'm looking to lease a 2014 E250 or E350.
    Equipped like this:
    Polar White
    P1
    Lighting Package
    Sport Styling Package
    Split Folding Rear Seats
    Panoramic Moonroof
    Lane Tracking Package
    MSRP: 60,600
    Looking to put 4k down and lease for 27 months and 20k a year (if possible, if not 18K)

    Can anyone tell me what my lease payment should be at?
    Also dealer is offering about 4500, many people seem to be getting 10k off. Any SoCal folks want to share their salespersons name and dealer?

    It's not a good idea to put a down payment on a lease .. if the vehicle is stolen or totaled, you are out that money.

    I'm not sure how folks are getting such large discounts from sticker on MB, but $4500 seems quite low. Have you contacted another MB dealer?

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  • rbradleysdrbradleysd Member Posts: 32
    edited July 2014

    @Michaell said:
    I'm not sure how folks are getting such large discounts from sticker on MB, but $4500 seems quite low. Have you contacted another MB dealer?

    I'm pretty sensitive to the payment which is why I always put cash down. Just easier for me mentally. I'm going to contact a few more. How would the lease look with 6k down? I'm going to assume I can get 8k off

  • ghstudioghstudio Member Posts: 972

    @rbradleysd said:
    I'm pretty sensitive to the payment which is why I always put cash down. Just easier for me mentally. I'm going to contact a few more. How would the lease look with 6k down? I'm going to assume I can get 8k off

    Don't make a down payment...put that money in a bank account and then just make your monthly payments into that account (instead of sending them to MB) and set up the lease with autopay to take the monthly payments directly from that account.

    Your head will now be OK because you are only paying the lower amount each month (into the bank account), you won't have the exposure if the car is lost or stolen, AND you will have reduced the cost of your lease because the money factor for autopay drops the mf by .0001 :). That $6000 will make up the difference between what you pay each month and what MB takes out of the bank account.

    A little confusing...but a much better and safer way to use that down payment money.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,360

    @ghstudio said:
    A little confusing...but a much better and safer way to use that down payment money.

    I concur with everything said by @ghstudio. Don't make a down payment to lower your monthly payment.

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  • corpsvetecorpsvete Member Posts: 7

    My current lease for a 2012 E350 matures in 6 months. My dealer sent a letter offering $3,500 as a Summer Event Bonus and $1,750 as a Preferred Customer Bonus. Can these be added to my USAA discount?
    Many thanks.

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