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alxndrs, I doubt you'll find that combination of options. Most of the EX models are either fully optioned, or without two-tone paint or without rear spoiler, or optionless. From memory, isn't the moonroof only $600 or so, MSRP? That's a lot less than a factory-installed moonroof typically costs. I'd go for a moonroof-equipped Sedona.
here was the reply from Kia:
"If your vehicles production date was on
or after February 17, 2002, then your vehicle will be sold with two Keyless
entry transmitters"
Check your vehicle's build date.. ...:>)
$21,500 was w/ $1000 rebate.
Thanks,
Pete
Will keep you posted when new data becomes available.
BTW, to recent posters on price, options, and maint related items larger amounts of data available if you scroll back through the chain. Might make your purchasing experience easier.
Now, if I can just decide if the dealer is being straight with me. He tells me he is offering less than $100 over invoice, but I think he is actually offering $1050 over invoice because his OTD price includes the rebate to dealer. His offer is $21,310 plus TTL, which includes the $1000 rebate. So, if we chose the 0% financing, the cost would be $22,310 + TTL. Edmunds lists the invoice price as $21,260 for the options we chose. Am I correct in thinking that he is actually quoting us $1050 over invoice, and trying to make us think he is selling it at $50 over invoice?
The TMV for our area, according to Edmunds, is $22,155. With the rebate, it looks as though we are getting a deal, but as somebody posted earlier, that rebate is actually our cash and shouldn't be considered part of the "price." Is that correct?
Again, thanks for all your input!!
What's the MSRP of the Sedona you're considering? It sounds like others are getting better quotes than you're describing.
Also, which dealer - is this Keller in Grand Rapids, Mich.?
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MSRP 23,930
dealer price 22,310
rebate (1,000)
final price 21,310
invoice 21,260
We bought our Sedona EX in February. MSRP 23,930. Selling price 22,930 (exactly $1,000 below MSRP). No rebates in effect at the time. We could have done $200-500 better at other dealers, but I was willing to give business to local dealer.
Prices seem to be falling the past few months. Your quote of $22,310 before rebate is $1,620 below MSRP. That seems like a pretty decent price. Yes, you could probably do better but that still seems pretty good. How to do better? Well, you could flat-out negotiate a lower price, which can be difficult, time-consuming, and unpleasant. The other way would be to get a quote from a different dealer and use that as leverage. Personally, I feel bad doing this, as the other dealer is being 'used' somewhat. But it IS a legitimate buying strategy.
Give Story Kia in East Lansing a call. They gave me a very good quote via email. I was sorry that I couldn't give them my business. Also, Crown Kia in Dublin, Ohio, has been recommended on Edmund's before. They too were willing to give me more than $1,000 below MSRP back in February. Back then, some folks were still paying MSRP or close to it.
21,100 (including $1000 rebate) plus $179 conveyance fee and tax.
Prior quote in Milford for same car (plus 2 tone paint which I didn't want) was 21,900 w/rebate plus a $249 conveyance fee. He also said I could get no better than 5.75 financing over 60Months no matter how good my credit was.
I am a horrible haggler and hate doing it but called Action Kia in Danbury anyway and told them the quote I recevied from milford and simply asked them "should i take the time to drive all the way to danbury?" He said hold on and came back with a price $600 cheaper. Then he said he had a van without 2 tone and that saved me another $200. plus saving $75 on the conveyance fee, i saved a total of $875 with one phone call. I told him I was going to get outside financing for 5.5% he said, no problem, he will match it.
Well, I pick up the car on 7/27. We'll see how the deal finishes.
ansbach76...The third row seats are not too difficult to remove and reinstall but they are rather heavy.
We use a Mighty Tite on that seat and I feared that had somehow ruined the seat's locking/ratcheting mechanism. I'm glad that wasn't the case.
I was wondering if anyone has had problems with their windshield cracking or chipping easily. About a month ago, I suddenly noticed a crack about 6 inches long that had appeared starting near the lower passenger side corner of the windshield. Upon inspection, I could not see any chips that could have caused it. Before I could take it in, it had grown to spread across nearly the entire passenger side of the windshield. I took the van into the dealership to see if this is covered under warranty, and the manager of the service department ran a pen along the crack, and said he found a tiny chip near the edge of the windshield that had caused the crack, so it was not covered under warranty. Now I'm going to have to fork over almost $600 to get the thing replaced. It seems strange that it would crack so easily.
I've been a frequent lurker here since last October when I was deciding whether or not to buy a Sedona(all your comments were a big help, btw). This is my first post here.
Have had no major problems at all with it, just the windshield thing.
In fact, just got back from putting 4700 miles on it in a span of 10 days on a road trip with the wife & kids and it performed admirably. Although I did get disappointing gas milage, only about 18 mpg. I was using a top carrier though, so that might have played a part. Anybody have any thoughts?
I've put nearly 14,000 miles on the thing, and I live in a very dusty area, so I am figuring on replacing the air filter. I haven't been able to find anybody who has aftermarket air filters, either online or in town. Was wondering if anybody else has replaced theirs yet, where and what it cost.
Thanks!
Air filter: I don't have a Sedona, but on my old Sephia, I had to get the air filters from the Kia dealer. No auto parts place or oil change place had them--always had to go back to Kia for them.
I am having this problem discussed earlier and it would be really helpful to have some kind of bulletin/reference number - or the name and number of a dealership that understands this issue.... Bluedevils, wes19?
In the meantime, I have a case number with 800Kia.
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MSG1374: The solution is a computer correction. My Sedona hesitated when cold..but even after it was warm and you shut it off and started it up a few minutes later it would hesitate...sometimes....
There is a KIA memo (bulletin) out on this to the dealers. Just ask your service dept about it.
18 mpg on highway driving is worse than I'd expect, unless you were doing 80mph or more. At 75 mph, we get 22-23 mpg in our Sedona.
http://www.alldata.com/TSB/71/02711018.html
I told the service manager at my dealer about this last week when I went in for an oil change and he said to call him this week about it.. he said he had to review the "fix" and I will follow up today actually.. hope this helps .... :>)
Are you happy with your Canadian purchases?
My only complaint is the fuel consomption of 19 MPG for mixe driving 50/50 , I have less than 3000kms on the van so I hope It will get better soon.
Re: mpg. We average 20-22 mpg (Canuck gallon) in the city and low 30's on the highway with full A/C. I'm satisfied with anything near 30 in a van. As others have noted, the Sedona has a lot of power and pickup and encourages enthusiastic driving that is fun, but not optimum for fuel economy.
I haven't kept up with this board for quite a while--are there other Sedonas experiencing power steering failure? Mine just went out.
We began hearing an odd noise a few days ago--sort of a guttural 'purring' noise that fluctuated along with the rpm. Called the dealership Thursday and got an appointment for next Tuesday--they said 'no problem' to drive it until then. Unfortunately, it didn't last that long.
Last night my wife said the noise increased dramatically and then it 'groaned' a couple of times while making sharp turns. Based on that, I checked the power steering fluid level--empty! I cranked it only to shut it off immediately--sounds like a bearing went totally bad in the power steering pump. Time to exercise the roadside assistance!
Windshield
I also had a crack appear last April as noted in recent posts--mine was at the bottom on the driver's side. I heard the "crack" when it popped--thought I had taken a rock strike, but couldn't find a ding anywhere. A few minutes later it appeared from the bottom edge and traveled 14 inches over the next few hours.
The local dealership I go to for service (not where I purchased my van) replaced it immediately.
There are some very good dealers and some very bad dealers. There are some very good independent shops and some very bad independent shops. It all boils down to the particular store/shop and the staff there.
Not all dealerships are competent!
The service advisor found the bulletin Friday, after I called the Kia 800# Thursday. There is a flash update for power control module (pcm) - at least that is what the advisor told me.
The problem in the bulletin is annoying, but not the reason I took the van into the dealer. Our van had a pinched wire somewhere in the driver area and the interior lights, power windows, instrument lights, doorlocks and remote, and warning chimes would intermittently go out of service. That took some time to find.... Apparently, the module that controls those became faulty as a result of overheating and also needs to be replaced.
Van is supposed to be ready on Monday.
You may recall that my wife had a fender bender ($6700) back in April with major body work done to front end. Since then I've noticed a few spots here and there of paint chipped off the hood when washing the car. Just last week I noticed another and today another. Since she and I drive the same route to and from work (actually I travel beyond her destination) and i have no paint chips in my hood I'm going to assume that it's more of a paint issue then her just getting whacked by 5 times as many pebble/road grit than I have. Since the body work was done at the dealership, they'll look at it when I get the oil changed this week (using my JD Power freebie). I'll keep you posted.
Glad to see all is well (for the most part) with everyone's Sedonas!
My decision to buy a Kia was made after two months of researching all that I could find on the internet and after visiting many different van sales centres (Dodge, GM). I hated the sales people everywhere else, as I feel that their advertising is not only deceptive, but borderline illegal. The sales people at our dealership were unpretentious.
We drove the Grand Caravan Sport only moments before deciding to take the Sedona for one more drive. The Sedona drives nicer, hands down.
As for my worries about fuel econmy, the money saved on the price of the van (vs. other brands) will more than cover the cost of fuel for MANY years. Insurance rates are comparable.
That's my opinion (and I'm confident that I made the right choice).
The picture on the web site is correct as well!!!
Has anyone ordered one yet? Just looking to see if they were truly available!!!
Blows my second car (Dodge Caravan) away. Perhaps not as nice as the inlaws Honda but I'll bank the 10k I saved and be a happy camper for many, many years.
http://203.248.232.51/corporate_info/main1_4.html
for info on ALL kinds of Kia vehicles from big 'greyhound' type buses (Ever heard of a Grandbird?) to military vehicles. (How about a KM425 K-4 40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher Carrier?) Also if you click on Kia Plaza you'll find wallpapers, screensavers, movies, still shots, etc.
Have Fun!
Re: "documentation fees"
We purchased our Kia at 8:45 in the evening just as the manager was preparing to go home. We flat out told the salesman and then the manager that we would not pay a documentation fee. I think that they waived it just to make us sign and shut up. Most dealers will not let a customer walk out over a small fee.