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I am looking for helps for this deal
2015 RX350
$399mo. 36mos.
$3,499due at signing.
Excludes official fees, taxes and dealer charges. 10,000 mile/year limit.
I'm in S. Cal.
Thanks in advance
Shel
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.00090 and 61% are the 36/10 lease numbers for the RX this month. With your MSRP and selling price, I get a $0 down pre-tax payment of $485.29/mo.
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Negotiate the price of the vehicle first. Do not negotiate monthly payments. After you have reached an agreed price have them deduct any current incentives. Shoot for 4.5 to 5k off msrp for the selling price. Once you have the sale price you can figure out on your own what your monthly payment will be.
Read through this forum to fully understand how a lease works if you are new at this. The information here will provide you with everything you need to know in getting a good lease.
NJ calculates sales tax against the entire lease (depreciated amount) up front - this can be added into the sale price or paid up front.
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The 27 month might look a little better, but once you amortize your upfront costs over 36 months, you'll find the deals are almost identical. If you want a 36 month lease, ask them to run the numbers..
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When I was shopping my dealers gave me quotes for 27, 36, 42 and 48 months.
The numbers were close, $10 difference, with 27 and 48 m being the lowest.
Insist that the dealer gives you quote for 36m.
Beware though! If you wish to renew a lease after 27 months you have to pay the acquisition fee/document fees sooner then with a 36 month lease. If you keep leasing through your life then you will be paying more fees with 27 month leases.
Another thought. With 27 month lease you will also pay less in vehicle maintenance services (less service, first two are free) plus less wear and tear. So I think 27 month leases do offer the most savings. Big negative is that you have to car shop again sooner.
As I have been saying in my previous posts, do not ask for monthly rates when shopping for a lease. Negotiate the selling price first, then you can figure out what the monthly rate will be on your own. If you simply ask the sales rep for a monthly rate then they are figuring out the sale price of the vehicle, a huge advantage for them.
Thanks,
SM
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SM
Beware though! If you wish to renew a lease after 27 months you have to pay the acquisition fee/document fees sooner then with a 36 month lease. If you keep leasing through your life then you will be paying more fees with 27 month leases.
Another thought. With 27 month lease you will also pay less in vehicle maintenance services (less service, first two are free) plus less wear and tear. So I think 27 month leases do offer the most savings. Big negative is that you have to car shop again sooner.
As I have been saying in my previous posts, do not ask for monthly rates when shopping for a lease. Negotiate the selling price first, then you can figure out what the monthly rate will be on your own. If you simply ask the sales rep for a monthly rate then they are figuring out the sale price of the vehicle, a huge advantage for them.
Thanks for the feedback. Not sure if this additional information will help in figuring if I am getting a good deal or not, but thought I should share:
MSRP: $46,128
Selling: $40,680
MF: 0.0009
Residual: $32,289
Out of Pocket: $2500
Monthly: $350 w/tax
Months: 27
Mileage: 12K/yr
MSRP: $46,128
Selling: $40,680
MF: 0.0009
Residual: $32,289
Out of Pocket: $2500
Monthly: $350 w/tax
Months: 27
Mileage: 12K/yr
Good deal?
Also, how are they giving you the first month payment waived benefit and lease cash? Are they part of your agreed sales price (already factored in) or are they going to be considered a cap cost reduction?
Money factor is correct but your residual seems very generous. They are quoting you a 70% residual for 27 months and 12K a year. When I leased last July the 70% residual was for 27 months and 10K a year. Either my memory is wrong, the dealership is screwing up, or Lexus gives great residuals in your area.
Also, be aware of extra registrations fees in an odd lease (like 27 months). For me, it raised my payment by $5 or $10 to do 24 months, but i avoided another $400 in DMV fees that I would have only been able to use for 3 months (months 25, 26, 27).
To be sure, people would need to know what how taxes are treated in your state
MSRP: $54,500 (approx. - can't remember exact figure)
Selling: $46,352.70
MF: 0.0009
Residual: $30,770.84
Out of Pocket: $0
Outstanding Prior Lease Balance: $5,712 (received tax break for doing trade-in vs. starting new)
Months: 36
Mileage: 10K/yr
- $1,000 Lexus Financial Credit - $699 (first month's payment) + $700 acquisition fee + additional $932 in taxes and random fees + $499 document fee.
Total Monthly: $699 (includes taxes)
Thoughts?
Michaell and Jessica, you two are awesome. Thank you for all your help.
Is there a site that shows the residual values for each car? Do you know what the residual is for a RX350 for 12k miles per year @ 27 months, 33 months, and 36 months? Dealer says that 27 months is the best deal? Are residual % the same for F-Sport, base 350, and hybrid 450h?
I'm also looking at a base RX 350 with MSRP of $50,300. Is $45,000 a good price if that is the price before rebate ($1000) and incentive (first months payment)?
Never leased a car before and learning a lot from your posts.
Thank you!
27 month leases do offer the best lease rates, just be careful of the registration fees as bwamps mentioned above. I know that in my state if you lease for 27 months you pay 3 years of registration fees upfront then the state will issue you credit at the end of the 27 month lease. Check with your state vehicle board to find out how they manage lease registration fees.
I don't know the residuals you asked for, but I am sure you can find by reading through this discussion board.
I do not know of any website that lists all the different residuals for vehicles.
Is there a site that shows the residual values for each car? Do you know what the residual is for a RX350 for 12k miles per year @ 27 months, 33 months, and 36 months? Dealer says that 27 months is the best deal? Are residual % the same for F-Sport, base 350, and hybrid 450h?
I'm also looking at a base RX 350 with MSRP of $50,300. Is $45,000 a good price if that is the price before rebate ($1000) and incentive (first months payment)?
Never leased a car before and learning a lot from your posts.
Thank you!
The residual information I have is not available to the general public.
.00090 is the base MF this month and the 12K residuals for 27/33/36 months are 68% / 63% / 60%
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Isn't MD one of the states that taxes the entire selling price? If so, your quote of $529/mo seems about right.
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36 month 12K miles
Total cash out of packet include first month payment = $1,300
Monthly payment include nj tax = $490
Is this a good deal. Will it be better deals after new year?
Thanks
$490/mo on a car that stickers for $50K looks like a good deal, but the devil is in the details.
Cannot tell you if the numbers will get better or worse in January.
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MSRP: $50,583
Selling: $45,583
Residual: $30,349
Total cash out of packet include first month payment = $1,300
Monthly payment include nj tax : $490
Months: 36
Mileage: 12K/yr
MSRP Vehicle Price: $50,238.00
Savings: - $3,826.00
Vehicle Selling Price: $46,412.00
Sales Tax (estimate): + $2,883.15
Tag/Registration Fees (estimate): + $425.00
Tire/Battery/MVWEA: + $9.00
Title Fee: + $2.00
Dealer Service Fee: + $699.95
Electronic Filing: + $98.75
Balance Due (estimate): $50,529.85
No Trade-In
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Cash Due 36 months
Rebates: $1,570
12,000 Miles
OFFER: $0 down $587
$1,500 down $540
$2,500 down $510
Money factor: .00090
Any recommendation or suggestion would be appreciated.
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Found a $1K lease bonus cash when leasing on LFS subvented contracts. Any idea on what this means.
Really appreciate the advise!
12K residuals for 27/33/36 months are 68% / 63% / 60%
The current (non IL) MF for the RX is .00090. This number is valid through Monday, 1/5/15. We're hoping new numbers will be available next week.
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.00090 MF and 58% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr. $1000 lease cash.
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Usually, lease programs are not that great in January, compared with later months. I see a lot of the best programs in March.
That said, the RX program might suck in March... the above is a generalization.
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MSRP: $51,638
Selling: $46,500
Out of pocket: $3,500
Adjusted cap cost: $44,757
MF: 0.00150
Residual: $36,662
Months: 24
Mileage: 7.5k
Monthly: $459 + tax
Not sure about the money factor though. Is it still 0.0009 for CA?
Thanks a lot.
I'm assuming that $1743 of your out of pocket is going to cap cost reduction. This is not something we recommend; if your car is stolen or totaled during the lease, you are out that money.
Also, $1743 represents and extra $73/mo on your payment, so your "true" payment is $532/mo before taxes.
What you want is to minimize your out of pocket to include the first months payment, acquisition fee and any state mandated taxes or fees - say, $1500 or so. And, politely but firmly explain to the dealer that you won't sign a contract that includes an inflated MF.
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here is the deal I was thinking about finalizing
msrp 50144
selling price 44500
mf .00018 with 9 security deposits
1000 lease cash from lexus
1200 down
27 mo 10k
68% residual
paynent 399 inc tax (I needed to be under 400 bc Lexus rounds to 50s with the security deposits)
total out of pocket cash 1600 (1200 above plus 1st payment) and the 3600 for the deposits.
Thoughts?
I'm getting $399.41/mo pre-tax with your numbers ... not sure how you are getting a quote of the same amount with tax.
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