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What lease term?
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
2015 Rx350 AWD
msrp- $50.5k
price after discount $48k
(loaded options)
MF 0.0009
27mo/10k mi
$5000 out the door payment includes all taxes fees and down payment
$450 monthly payment.
First month free and $1k holiday credit applied
Thoughts?
from NJ
2015 36 month at 15k & 33 month at 15k
Please let me know.
Thank you,
The part I truly love is how the actual contracts never reflect reality. they do in the bottom line and what I pay and what I owe and terms. everything else is the best of fiction. thats been true at any brand and dealer on lease deals (typically they show paying MSRP, then applying some money from a trade or something)
Thanks for the help. the forums are a great way to sanity check and ensure you are not missing something.
Congrats on the new Lexus!
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I wanted to check, if this is a fair deal.
2015 Lexus RX350 - AWD ( Navi,primeun package with BPM, comform packg., heated seat,towing pckg)
MSRP - 51379
Sales Price - 47500
Lease term - 27 month
12K miles per year.
Dealer said : 4000 down and 450$ per month for 27 month ( Including all taxes and fees)
Zip code - 43017 ( Ohio State)
Is this good deal?
36 months/15k
24 months/15k
Thanks!
.00090 MF and 58%/68% residual.
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National base MF is .0009
Residuals @ 10K miles:
24 mo = 71%
33 mo = 64%
36 mo = 61%
-1% for 12k miles, and -2% (3% total) for 15k miles. For example, 24/12 would be 70% and 24/15 is 68%?
Do I have all that right?
+ free first month payment?
Yes.. that's all correct... plus, $1000 lease cash.
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What state is this? Tax obligations vary.
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In such a situation, a dealer would be very happy for a buyer to accept the dealer simply accepting the lease payoff. The buyer would be best served to research the actual trade value prior to initiating a new lease.
MSRP = 50,659 (RX350 AWD w/ Navigation); cap cost = 45,300
• MF = 0.00090
• Residual = 70%
• Mileage/yr = 7500
• Term = 27 months
• Monthly payment = $441
When I do the calculations, I get $437/mo. + tax.
What is the amount due at signing?
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First - RX350 FWD with Comfort, Navi, Towing Prep, 19" wheels, park assist, premium with blind spot and Wood and Leather steering wheels.
MSRP $49,979
Sales price $47,129 (not sure if they factored in the $1,000 lease credit)
MF .0009
Residual 68% on 15k/27 mo lease (this seems like a high residual)
Second - RX450h FWD with Comfort, Navi, 19" wheels, park assist, premium with blind spot and Xenon lights
MSRP $56,164
Sales price $53,664
MF - same
Residual 64% same otherwise
Thanks
RX400h 27/15 residual is 64%
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RX350 with nav package and the extras for 27 month lease, 7,500 miles/year.
Cap cost: 45,161 (includes 1,000 rebate) (MSRP: 50, 434)
Due at signing: 2,003 (includes Lexus-covered first month payment; 1,217 in taxes (NYC), and 85 dealer fee)
monthly payment: $437.24
Does anyone have thoughts on how competitive a deal this and how I might get a better one?
Many thanks!
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Cap cost: 44,161 (includes 1,000 rebate) (MSRP: 50, 435)
Due at signing: 2,189 (includes Lexus-covered first month payment; 1,117 in taxes (NYC), 700 bank fee, and 85 dealer fee)
monthly payment: $400
This seems about as low as I can expect them to go on this model, right? Just when I think I have the lowest offer, another one pops up. Thanks again for providing transparency to this process!
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CA
47,514
42,500
27 months 10000 miles
0
$385/mo + Tax
Residual; $32,100
The base MF is .00090, $1000 lease cash from Lexus and complimentary first payment.
You can't negotiate residual, but you can negotiate the money factor (you want the base MF). Find another dealer, if this one won't negotiate.
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But you may be on to something. Last year the True Cost of Incentives for Lexus was $2,510 (for the brand, not specifically for the RX 350). This past November it was $3,018, a 20% increase over a year ago. It's unlikely that the incentive will substantially change any time soon or go away. But we really can't say for sure.
I don't know about the MF, but it likely followed the same trend at the incentives.
If you go to our TCI page, you can download a spreadsheet showing incentive trends.
Texas is one of a few states that applies sales tax to the entire sales price of the car; the credits exist to reduce that tax burden.
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2015 RX 350 FWd with Nav package + premimium package w/ blind spot 12k/36 months
MSRP 48543
invoice = 45861
residual 60%
MF .00090
Taxes and Fees = $391 + 109.25
Drive off from you = $1800. Rebate from Lexus = $1000 1st payment waiver from lexus $541
Aq fee = $500
monthly payment =541 inc tax
is this an ok deal. I know for sure it is not an excellent deal
I would suggest you head over to the "Real World Trade in Values" to get a valuation on your current IS250. You might have more equity in it than the dealer is offering you.
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MF stands for money factor. It is a substitute for the finance rate, used in calculating the lease.
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27 months/7500 miles; NYC area
MSRP: 50,435
Cap Cost: 44,161 (after 1,000 lease cash)
1,117 - taxes
700 - bank fee
350 - DMV
= 2,189 at signing
MF: .00090; Residual: 70%
Monthly: $400
I did my homework and shopped 4-5 dealers in the NYC area against each other. I figured I landed a good deal when none of the other dealers would match.
Many thanks to @Michaell for the reliable and quick advice.
Good luck to all.
I received a few specs sheets from the dealers with the MSRP, so from what I am reading here, the price shown on MSRP, could that price actually go lower? I guess what I am trying to ask is that price on MSRP is should not be the selling price?
Also, how are you guys getting offers with MF, residual, monthly pmts. I am just shopping around to see what price I can get however none of the dealers has given me numbers to work with. Do you guys give them your SS to look up your credit score in that way they can come up with these numbers? I'm skeptical in giving my personal info to the dealer but is that needed for them to give me an offer?
Thanks in advance.