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abacomike

ab348 said:

Not such a fun day today. Off to the hospital for 0730 to have a renal biopsy. This is where they stick a needle into your kidneys and suck out a sample of tissue to analyze the cells. I was told it would be painless. They lied. They froze the surface but I could feel what was going on inside. Not good. After the first one I complained and they knocked me out for the rest of it. I woke up back in the ward for 4 hours bed rest and observation/monitoring. Getting old really sux.

I pray the biopsy shows nothing but healthy kidney tissue.  I had to go through that when they found the tumors in my liver.  The liver biopsies (4) were so painful they had to give me morphine and kept in the hospital for a night.

I agree - getting old is no fun.

fintail

Yuck. Here's hoping they found nothing, and you'll have smooth sailing from here on.

ab348 said:

Not such a fun day today. Off to the hospital for 0730 to have a renal biopsy. This is where they stick a needle into your kidneys and suck out a sample of tissue to analyze the cells. I was told it would be painless. They lied. They froze the surface but I could feel what was going on inside. Not good. After the first one I complained and they knocked me out for the rest of it. I woke up back in the ward for 4 hours bed rest and observation/monitoring.

Getting old really sux.

murphydog

Following up

• How many times did I hit 100? Only a few times, mostly had the cruise control set to 85, which was 10 over.
  
• What kind of rental rocket? A 2018 Chevy Equinox. Supposed to be a 4Runner, but Sixt USA has a funny definition of “or similar”
  

Here is what I rented for Monday fun

tjc78

@jmonroe

Sounds like a great system. I’ve got pegboard in my basement workshop (which considering my line of work is no surprise) along with a workbench with a 3”!maple butcher block top (Was my grandfathers, came out of Campbell’s soup factory in Camden NJ) that thing is a beast.  

tbirdmarco

Thank you shifty for removing the political post never read them I miss them which is fine we’re all cool in here happy Friday all

tbirdmarco

 Going to be beautiful next couple of days here I heard one of the country has the snow storm that’s nuts I thought it was over with 

tbirdmarco

 What can we do it is what it is 

oldfarmer50

jmonroe said:

oldfarmer50 said:

I'm watching the Barrett-Jackson auction and they sold a 2012 Shelby GT 500 for $32,000. About the same as I paid for my regular 2015 GT. 700+ hp. not bad.

You're off topic. We're doing garage hardware storage racks and tool/work benches today. :@

jmonroe

ok but I didn't want to get into your obsessive baby food jar hoarding behavior. I think there is a tv show about people with that problem.

They never call in the shrinks for people who collect too many cars.

driver100

jmonroe said:

explorerx4 said:

That shelve system is a bad design. You can't see the bottom of most of the jars.

You could be right. My octagon rack of jars is better. I have no problem seeing the bottom of the jars with my system and the sides too.

jmonroe

When one of your grandkids comes over have them take a picture and they or us will show you how to post it so we can see it. Maybe we will send you to Shark Tank,.......... not the show......a real one!

driver100

ab348 said:

Not such a fun day today. Off to the hospital for 0730 to have a renal biopsy. This is where they stick a needle into your kidneys and suck out a sample of tissue to analyze the cells. I was told it would be painless. They lied.
Getting old really sux.

Sorry to hear this ab. I think when they said it would be painless they meant for them.
I agree, getting old isn't for sissy's....but, it is probably better than the alternative.

driver100

Marco....thanks for the video on the new Jetta. It looks beautiful, it seems to be very technologically up to date....seems to be a great value for the money.
https://youtu.be/2icCnPCpVWU

graphicguy

Mr_Shiftright said:

Posts have been removed for a volatile form of "politics". Let's not go there, guys.

Dang it! I miss all the good stuff!

snakeweasel

jmonroe said:

Yeh, remember when you could go into a hardware store and buy one nut or bolt, and today you have to buy a package that has 12 of them....11 you won't be using and will forget where you put them when you do need another one?

Well, if you had a storage rack or two like I have, you'd know where to put all those "extra" bolts, nuts and screws. If I knew how to do pics on my phone and link them here it would be easier for you to see what I mean. Now you're gonna have to try to visualize what I describe below. Don't blame me for the length of this post. I'm going to try to explain it so that even you will get the picture: Many years ago (back in the early 70's) I built an octagon wooden rack to hold an assortment of small hardware. I chose an octagon vs. a hexagon because that would give me 8 surfaces to mount baby jar lids to instead of 6 surfaces. The octagon is about 5 inches, flat side to flat side, and is about 34 inches long (I'll explain later why I chose "about 34 inches"). There is an octagon on each end and one in the middle. It's made out of 3/4 inch pine lumber cut to fit on the 3 octagon sides (22.5 degree miter cuts). The lengths of wood allow for 10 baby jar lids to be nailed along the wooden strips. Two nails per lid so that the baby jar doesn't spin when putting the jar on and off. Now you may have guessed that I chose the "about 34 inch length" so that I could mount 10 jars along this wooden strip but you would have guessed wrong. I chose that length so that I could buy a standard 36 inch piece of 1/2 all-thread. I drilled a clearance hole for the all-thread through the center of all 3 octagon pieces before assembly. I could have drilled the holes through the end octagons when finished with the assembly but how do I drill the hole for the middle octagon support when assembled? See, I thought of that too. The rack is held to the ceiling joists in the garage. I made "L" brackets from 1 1/12 inch by 1/16 inch flat metal, cut and bent to form a 90 degree bend (about 12 inches each leg). Holes are then drilled through one of the bracket legs for the all-thread to pass through and 3 holes are drilled along the other leg for 1/4 inch lag screws to hold this gizmo to the ceiling joist. That sucker, when the jars are filled, is heavy but it ain't going nowhere with those lag bolts, honest. OK, done with that. Got 80 jars for small hardware. About 2 years later when I'm almost done patting myself on the back for making that gizmo, I find out I ain't got enough jars for all the stuff I need to store. What a dope I was thinking I could get away with just one rack. Now I have 3. Because they are on the ceiling they are out of the way, yet easy to get to when I want something. Both of my son's liked that thing so when they bought houses they wanted me to make one for them. Being the great father that I am they each now have one. OK, now you have the verbal plans so that you can make one. The way I look at it, you NEVER need JUST ONE of anything. If you need one screw today you can bet you're going to need another one in the future. No sense running to the store to get one the next time when you already have some in your own stock and you have them easily sorted out for use, where you can find them, right? There, that wasn't so bad, was it? jmonroe

I never understood how people could basically outfit a hardware store with all the nuts and bolts and stuff the gave collected over the years. What I have is a large plastic container about the size of two computer keyboards that have compartments of various sizes for all of that stuff. that and a couple of boxes of nails is all I have and really need.

snakeweasel

fintail said:

Just go to facebook

Is there a feature where I can read the juicy deleted posts? You know how Yelp has a "click here" to view the reviews we didn't like.

That's why I dumped facebook, way to political and it pretty much boiled down to people telling me I was a complete idiot because I didn't agree with them. 

ab348

oldfarmer50 said:

They never call in the shrinks for people who collect too many cars.

That's true. The local govts just call in the mobile car crushers.

Thanks to those who offered up well-wishes. Feeling pretty good this morning. I was thinking about my experience yesterday. When they were doing it they had me face-down on the CT scan machine table and the doc was doing a verbal play-by-play for me:

"I'm putting on some freezing gel like you would get at the dentist." (I could feel that go on, no problem)
"I'm going to inject some local anaesthetic around the area now." (I could almost feel that, but no problem)
"We're giving you something like a liquid Valium through the IV" (I felt no effect at all)
"Now we're going to give you some Fentanyl, but it's not the bad kind you hear about." (The exact quote, also felt no effect)

So they do the right side first and when he hit paydirt it felt like someone stuck a shiv into me. They finish that up and before they start the other side I tell them that it hurt and felt really uncomfortable. "Oh, OK, we'll give you some more anaesthetic..." That is literally the last thing I can recall before the lights went out.

The next thing I remember is waking up back in the ward. No idea how I got there, what had happened in the interim or how much time had passed. Seems to me there ought to have been some happy medium.

snakeweasel

ab348 said:

Not such a fun day today. Off to the hospital for 0730 to have a renal biopsy. This is where they stick a needle into your kidneys and suck out a sample of tissue to analyze the cells. I was told it would be painless. They lied. They froze the surface but I could feel what was going on inside. Not good. After the first one I complained and they knocked me out for the rest of it. I woke up back in the ward for 4 hours bed rest and observation/monitoring. Getting old really sux.

Thanks for making my day. A liitle while back I had some serious issues with my internal plumbing. Monday I get to go see the specialist and now you give me one more thing for my imagination to grab hold of and run wild with. 

Anyway I hope and pray for the best for you. 

tjc78

snakeweasel said:

fintail said:

Just go to facebook

andres3 said:

Is there a feature where I can read the juicy deleted posts? You know how Yelp has a "click here" to view the reviews we didn't like.

That's why I dumped facebook, way to political and it pretty much boiled down to people telling me I was a complete idiot because I didn't agree with them. 

I hate Facebook. Just don't get it...

driver100

snakeweasel said:

fintail said:

Just go to facebook

andres3 said:

Is there a feature where I can read the juicy deleted posts? You know how Yelp has a "click here" to view the reviews we didn't like.

That's why I dumped facebook, way to political and it pretty much boiled down to people telling me I was a complete idiot because I didn't agree with the

m. 

We have a lady who seems to be a very nice person.

i am not on FB, but my wife checks it....she finds the most vile posts you can imagine.....placed by this nice lady.

I like this line from your post "people telling me I was a complete idiot because I didn't agree with them"

There is NO debate your reasoning and there is no persuading someone to change their thinking. As a result, the only people you are preaching to are the one's that agreed with you to begin with.

snakeweasel

stickguy said:

yeah, biopsies of organs. not fun. Glad that all I need this month is a colonoscopy.

Oh crap (pun intended) I need to get that done soon too. Maybe coming here on Friday the 13th wasn't such a good idea. 

driver100

My experience at my colonoscopy one year ago;
I came out of my being under a bit early.
I could hear talking....sounded like a party going on.
I didn't want to pop my head up when it sounded like there was a party going on, and my butt is in the air.
I faked I was still under, and all these people are talking about what they were going to be doing on the weekend,
and where the parties were.
Kind of felt like a big party....at my expense.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

fintail said:

Just go to facebook

Is there a feature where I can read the juicy deleted posts? You know how Yelp has a "click here" to view the reviews we didn't like.

That's why I dumped facebook, way to political and it pretty much boiled down to people telling me I was a complete idiot because I didn't agree with the

m. 

We have a lady who seems to be a very nice person. i am not on FB, but my wife checks it....she finds the most vile posts you can imagine.....placed by this nice lady. I like this line from your post "people telling me I was a complete idiot because I didn't agree with them" There is NO debate your reasoning and there is no persuading someone to change their thinking. As a result, the only people you are preaching to are the one's that agreed with you to begin with.

The last election two of my sister's discovered that I didn't like the one they were voting for. Instead of listening to my concerns and actually addressing them all they did was trash me calling me stupid and saying I don't think for myself. You can't win any converts that way.

roadburner

jmonroe said:

ab348 said:

Not such a fun day today. Off to the hospital for 0730 to have a renal biopsy. This is where they stick a needle into your kidneys and suck out a sample of tissue to analyze the cells. I was told it would be painless. They lied. They froze the surface but I could feel what was going on inside. Not good. After the first one I complained and they knocked me out for the rest of it. I woke up back in the ward for 4 hours bed rest and observation/monitoring.

Getting old really sux.

Hoping the test is OK and you're feeling your old self tomorrow.

jmonroe

Ditto!

houdini1

tjc78 said:

@jmonroe

Sounds like a great system. I’ve got pegboard in my basement workshop (which considering my line of work is no surprise) along with a workbench with a 3”!maple butcher block top (Was my grandfathers, came out of Campbell’s soup factory in Camden NJ) that thing is a beast.  

I put a nice work bench in our house (basement) when we bought it 12 years ago. Had it all duded out with my stuff, pegboards and all. Twelve years later it now serves as a resting place for my wife's old lamps and other junk. Tools are all scattered around the house in various drawers, etc. It's kind of fun to look for stuff which I can never find. I never put stuff back in the same place if I happen to accidentally find something I am looking for. It's all about the chase.

qbrozen

snakeweasel said:

I never understood how people could basically outfit a hardware store with all the nuts and bolts and stuff the gave collected over the years. What I have is a large plastic container about the size of two computer keyboards that have compartments of various sizes for all of that stuff. that and a couple of boxes of nails is all I have and really need.

I have a ridiculous amount of hardware stashed everywhere in my garage and basement. I can just never bring myself to toss extra nuts, bolts, cotter pins, wall anchors, etc that come with things I purchase. I also keep used stuff. For the times it comes in handy, I'm glad to have it all. Lost a screw before reassembling the oven or dishwasher after a repair? Got that covered. The Rover is missing 2 of the 5 bolts holding on the dust shield? I can find something that will work. Gotta make a radiator bracket for the new aluminum rad in my Dodge? I have the scraps to do it. Need to rig up a friend's natural gas generator to my house when the power was out for 3 days? I had a bin of pipe adapters that saved the day. And I couldn't possibly count the number of kids' toys I've repaired. The stuff ain't always pretty, but it works.

roadburner

tjc78 said:

I hate Facebook. Just don't get it...

I just don't post anything political on my Facebook page. Most of my friends on there are either former classmates, past/present coworkers, or people I know from my various automotive pursuits.

Funny thing; I reported the fake profile to Facebook and they essentially said I could ban him if I didn't like it. This even though it was obvious that the fake profile used the name and picture of someone who died 3 years ago.
Morons.

jmonroe

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Yeh, remember when you could go into a hardware store and buy one nut or bolt, and today you have to buy a package that has 12 of them....11 you won't be using and will forget where you put them when you do need another one?

Well, if you had a storage rack or two like I have, you'd know where to put all those "extra" bolts, nuts and screws.

If I knew how to do pics on my phone and link them here it would be easier for you to see what I mean. Now you're gonna have to try to visualize what I describe below. Don't blame me for the length of this post. I'm going to try to explain it so that even you will get the picture:

Many years ago (back in the early 70's) I built an octagon wooden rack to hold an assortment of small hardware. I chose an octagon vs. a hexagon because that would give me 8 surfaces to mount baby jar lids to instead of 6 surfaces. The octagon is about 5 inches, flat side to flat side, and is about 34 inches long (I'll explain later why I chose "about 34 inches"). There is an octagon on each end and one in the middle. It's made out of 3/4 inch pine lumber cut to fit on the 3 octagon sides (22.5 degree miter cuts). The lengths of wood allow for 10 baby jar lids to be nailed along the wooden strips. Two nails per lid so that the baby jar doesn't spin when putting the jar on and off. Now you may have guessed that I chose the "about 34 inch length" so that I could mount 10 jars along this wooden strip but you would have guessed wrong. I chose that length so that I could buy a standard 36 inch piece of 1/2 all-thread. I drilled a clearance hole for the all-thread through the center of all 3 octagon pieces before assembly. I could have drilled the holes through the end octagons when finished with the assembly but how do I drill the hole for the middle octagon support when assembled? See, I thought of that too.

The rack is held to the ceiling joists in the garage. I made "L" brackets from 1 1/12 inch by 1/16 inch flat metal, cut and bent to form a 90 degree bend (about 12 inches each leg). Holes are then drilled through one of the bracket legs for the all-thread to pass through and 3 holes are drilled along the other leg for 1/4 inch lag screws to hold this gizmo to the ceiling joist. That sucker, when the jars are filled, is heavy but it ain't going nowhere with those lag bolts, honest. OK, done with that. Got 80 jars for small hardware. About 2 years later when I'm almost done patting myself on the back for making that gizmo, I find out I ain't got enough jars for all the stuff I need to store. What a dope I was thinking I could get away with just one rack. Now I have 3. Because they are on the ceiling they are out of the way, yet easy to get to when I want something.

Both of my son's liked that thing so when they bought houses they wanted me to make one for them. Being the great father that I am they each now have one.

OK, now you have the verbal plans so that you can make one. The way I look at it, you NEVER need JUST ONE of anything. If you need one screw today you can bet you're going to need another one in the future. No sense running to the store to get one the next time when you already have some in your own stock and you have them easily sorted out for use, where you can find them, right?

There, that wasn't so bad, was it?

jmonroe

I never understood how people could basically outfit a hardware store with all the nuts and bolts and stuff the gave collected over the years. What I have is a large plastic container about the size of two computer keyboards that have compartments of various sizes for all of that stuff. that and a couple of boxes of nails is all I have and really need.

I don't think this is the only thing you don't understand.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

They never call in the shrinks for people who collect too many cars.

That's true. The local govts just call in the mobile car crushers.

Thanks to those who offered up well-wishes. Feeling pretty good this morning. I was thinking about my experience yesterday. When they were doing it they had me face-down on the CT scan machine table and the doc was doing a verbal play-by-play for me:

"I'm putting on some freezing gel like you would get at the dentist." (I could feel that go on, no problem)
"I'm going to inject some local anaesthetic around the area now." (I could almost feel that, but no problem)
"We're giving you something like a liquid Valium through the IV" (I felt no effect at all)
"Now we're going to give you some Fentanyl, but it's not the bad kind you hear about." (The exact quote, also felt no effect)

So they do the right side first and when he hit paydirt it felt like someone stuck a shiv into me. They finish that up and before they start the other side I tell them that it hurt and felt really uncomfortable. "Oh, OK, we'll give you some more anaesthetic..." That is literally the last thing I can recall before the lights went out.

The next thing I remember is waking up back in the ward. No idea how I got there, what had happened in the interim or how much time had passed. Seems to me there ought to have been some happy medium.

I can usually tolerate a lot of pain if it's not in an embarrassing location. Tendon surgery, dental procedures are ok but colonoscopies or hernia surgery I want to not remember.

jmonroe

snakeweasel said:

fintail said:

Just go to facebook

andres3 said:

Is there a feature where I can read the juicy deleted posts? You know how Yelp has a "click here" to view the reviews we didn't like.

That's why I dumped facebook, way to political and it pretty much boiled down to people telling me I was a complete idiot because I didn't agree with them. 

You tell 'em 'snake'. You can get that kind of treatment in here and the dues are probably less too.

jmonroe

fintail

I think it is a combination of people who like to humblebrag, normalbrag, and whine. I have a semi-active page I use only to see pictures my sister posts of my niece and her dog, and maybe see if a few relatives are still kicking. Otherwise, useless (although the snarky comments on local real estate and apartment listings that are advertised to me can be hilarious). Some of the political whine I see from specific relatives is also amusing, usually because of its hypocrisy.

tjc78 said:

That's why I dumped facebook, way to political and it pretty much boiled down to people telling me I was a complete idiot because I didn't agree with them. 

I hate Facebook. Just don't get it...

28firefighter

I used to be more active on Facebook. Now it is just a means of sharing pictures of Sam with family, since they're scattered all over the world. I generally will remove people who I don't talk to anymore.

That said, I'm likely to ditch Facebook in the near future. Been on since 2004 when I went to college and I think I have had enough.

oldfarmer50

Question for you rich guys:

If you were selling a more expensive car ($20k+) how would you screen for ability to pay? Would you demand bank statements, loan guarentees from a financial institution, cashiers check....what?

jmonroe

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

fintail said:

Just go to facebook

andres3 said:

Is there a feature where I can read the juicy deleted posts? You know how Yelp has a "click here" to view the reviews we didn't like.

That's why I dumped facebook, way to political and it pretty much boiled down to people telling me I was a complete idiot because I didn't agree with the

m. 

We have a lady who seems to be a very nice person.

i am not on FB, but my wife checks it....she finds the most vile posts you can imagine.....placed by this nice lady.

I like this line from your post "people telling me I was a complete idiot because I didn't agree with them"

There is NO debate your reasoning and there is no persuading someone to change their thinking. As a result, the only people you are preaching to are the one's that agreed with you to begin with.

The last election two of my sister's discovered that I didn't like the one they were voting for. Instead of listening to my concerns and actually addressing them all they did was trash me calling me stupid and saying I don't think for myself. You can't win any converts that way.

I don't want to get too deep into this but they know you better/longer than we do.

It's true...you can't pick your relatives.

jmonroe

jmonroe

qbrozen said:

snakeweasel said:

I never understood how people could basically outfit a hardware store with all the nuts and bolts and stuff the gave collected over the years. What I have is a large plastic container about the size of two computer keyboards that have compartments of various sizes for all of that stuff. that and a couple of boxes of nails is all I have and really need.

I have a ridiculous amount of hardware stashed everywhere in my garage and basement. I can just never bring myself to toss extra nuts, bolts, cotter pins, wall anchors, etc that come with things I purchase. I also keep used stuff. For the times it comes in handy, I'm glad to have it all. Lost a screw before reassembling the oven or dishwasher after a repair? Got that covered. The Rover is missing 2 of the 5 bolts holding on the dust shield? I can find something that will work. Gotta make a radiator bracket for the new aluminum rad in my Dodge? I have the scraps to do it. Need to rig up a friend's natural gas generator to my house when the power was out for 3 days? I had a bin of pipe adapters that saved the day. And I couldn't possibly count the number of kids' toys I've repaired. The stuff ain't always pretty, but it works.

Now that's what I'm talking about. You can't do that without "stuff".

jmonroe

jmonroe

tjc78 said:

@jmonroe

Sounds like a great system. I’ve got pegboard in my basement workshop (which considering my line of work is no surprise) along with a workbench with a 3”!maple butcher block top (Was my grandfathers, came out of Campbell’s soup factory in Camden NJ) that thing is a beast.  

BEAST is definitely the word for that top. You can pound all day and night on that thing; you ain't never going to hurt that top.

If it weren't for the tomato soup stains all over it, I'd be jealous.

jmonroe

ab348

qbrozen said:

Need to rig up a friend's natural gas generator to my house when the power was out for 3 days? I had a bin of pipe adapters that saved the day.

That bracket looks like one of those combo bottle openers/can punches that back in the old days used to come in cases of canned beer. Ingenuity!

qbrozen

oldfarmer50 said:

Question for you rich guys:

If you were selling a more expensive car ($20k+) how would you screen for ability to pay? Would you demand bank statements, loan guarentees from a financial institution, cashiers check....what?

Oh, just an email declaring his/her prince/princess status, and a bank draft for $5k more than the sale price so I can write a check to the "shippers" out of my own account.

abacomike

graphicguy said:

Posts have been removed for a volatile form of "politics". Let's not go there, guys.

Dang it! I miss all the good stuff!

Politics?  Good grief, I get more than enough political junk just scanning the TV channels.  There is way too much political discourse on the TV  including sit-coms, dramas, talk shows, etc.,  that’s why I don’t watch late night talk and variety shows.  

Thanks to Shifty for keeping politics to a minimum here on this board.

abacomike

qbrozen said:

Question for you rich guys: If you were selling a more expensive car ($20k+) how would you screen for ability to pay? Would you demand bank statements, loan guarentees from a financial institution, cashiers check....what?

Oh, just an email declaring his/her prince/princess status, and a bank draft for $5k more than the sale price so I can write a check to the "shippers" out of my own account.

FICO Score is at least one piece of data that would be essential - 720+ usually means the buyer is on the level - but that’s just one item I’d request.  There are other pieces of info that I would request.

murphydog

28firefighter said:

I used to be more active on Facebook. Now it is just a means of sharing pictures of Sam with family, since they're scattered all over the world. I generally will remove people who I don't talk to anymore.

That said, I'm likely to ditch Facebook in the near future. Been on since 2004 when I went to college and I think I have had enough.

I deleted Facebook off my phone. I check for family/friend updates via a tablet once or twice a week. I need to change my profile to generic data and the just abandon the account as I don’t think it can be deleted from Facebook’s server.

ab348

I managed to miss whatever political stuff came and went here yesterday. So there was something positive about my stay at the hospital after all.

stickguy

oldfarmer50 said:

Question for you rich guys:

If you were selling a more expensive car ($20k+) how would you screen for ability to pay? Would you demand bank statements, loan guarentees from a financial institution, cashiers check....what?

Are you selling? Just get a big bag of cash. Otherwise a bank check from a local bank, that you can verify at the bank with the buyer. That other stuff only makes sense if you are financing.

That hassle, and sales tax credit, is why I’m much more likely to trade in a car with decent equity.

pensfan83

Up until a few years ago I was fairly active on Facebook, now it's used mostly to keep in touch with a few friends and relatives and make the occasional post. My wife uses her account to post pictures and I'll share them. Even then we're both pretty selective about what pictures are put online.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Question for you rich guys:

If you were selling a more expensive car ($20k+) how would you screen for ability to pay? Would you demand bank statements, loan guarentees from a financial institution, cashiers check....what?

Oh, just an email declaring his/her prince/princess status, and a bank draft for $5k more than the sale price so I can write a check to the "shippers" out of my own account.

So if they ask for a test drive and show up wearing a crown I could be sure they weren't a flake or a joy rider?

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Question for you rich guys:

If you were selling a more expensive car ($20k+) how would you screen for ability to pay? Would you demand bank statements, loan guarentees from a financial institution, cashiers check....what?

Are you selling? Just get a big bag of cash. Otherwise a bank check from a local bank, that you can verify at the bank with the buyer. That other stuff only makes sense if you are financing.

That hassle, and sales tax credit, is why I’m much more likely to trade in a car with decent equity.

Not selling currently although my relatives may be selling an almost new Civic. I was just pondering on how you would weed out the joy riders from serious buyers. A bag full of cash would do the trick but I'm wondering if there is a more practical way.

I sometimes see car ads that state "must show ability to buy before test drive".

pensfan83

oldfarmer50 said:

Question for you rich guys:

If you were selling a more expensive car ($20k+) how would you screen for ability to pay? Would you demand bank statements, loan guarentees from a financial institution, cashiers check....what?

Cashier's check or wire transfer only, accompanied with a business card of the bank employee who helped process the transaction.

Mr_Shiftright

oldfarmer50 said:

Question for you rich guys:

If you were selling a more expensive car ($20k+) how would you screen for ability to pay? Would you demand bank statements, loan guarentees from a financial institution, cashiers check....what?

For Exchange of Funds and Title---What you do is go to your bank, and hand the bank officer the title to the car. He puts it in a Fedex envelope addressed to your buyer. As soon as the buyer wires the money into your bank, the bank officer drops the title into the "mail". On a wire transfer, if the bank says it's there, then it's definitely THERE.

For Test Drive: Depends how anal you want to get here. Sometimes you can assess the buyer merely by the car he drives or how he is dressed. You can certainly ask for his driver's license and check that it is current. You can also set "ground rules" for the test drive.

jmonroe

pensfan83 said:

Up until a few years ago I was fairly active on Facebook, now it's used mostly to keep in touch with a few friends and relatives and make the occasional post. My wife uses her account to post pictures and I'll share them. Even then we're both pretty selective about what pictures are put online.

I don't belong to Facebook but my DIL's do. Because of that I get bombarded with responses from their contacts. While I like dogs, I'm tired of seeing doggie and puppy pics showing them all dressed up about to go out and play in the snow from those people. And I don't give a damn about some pizza mix that wasn't good or seeing that someone dropped a tray load of chicken on the kitchen floor when taking it out of the oven.

Talk about needing a life. I think all of those people need one.

jmonroe

nyccarguy

Glad we are discussing garage/tool organization. My garage & boiler room are very unorganized. I started moving a few things into the boiler room & found a great place to hang things. My entire basement (except for the boiler/oil tank room) is finished. There are some beautiful, exposed, wood studs that are just perfect for hanging things. I started the other night. I took 2 brackets that came with the blinds I bought for my basement (from Home Depot) and used them to mount my skis on the wall. Today I'm taking home some wood blocks that were used to deliver some pipe to my store this AM. I'm going to use those to mount my ski racks that I don't use during the spring/summer/fall. I'll post pics of the progress.

carnaught

Mr_Shiftright said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Question for you rich guys:

If you were selling a more expensive car ($20k+) how would you screen for ability to pay? Would you demand bank statements, loan guarentees from a financial institution, cashiers check....what?

For Exchange of Funds and Title---What you do is go to your bank, and hand the bank officer the title to the car. He puts it in a Fedex envelope addressed to your buyer. As soon as the buyer wires the money into your bank, the bank officer drops the title into the "mail". On a wire transfer, if the bank says it's there, then it's definitely THERE.

For Test Drive: Depends how anal you want to get here. Sometimes you can assess the buyer merely by the car he drives or how he is dressed. You can certainly ask for his driver's license and check that it is current. You can also set "ground rules" for the test drive.

Good tips. For a test drive, I tell them I need to see and snap a photo of their drver’s license.

I meet the buyer at a branch bank of mine, deposit their certified check and use the bank’s notary to sign over the title.

carnaught

As for FB, I’ve never been a fan. I have looked up some old friends and girlfriends, but I do not find the necessity of trying to accue as many FB friends as possible. I find no need to inform my “friends”, or the general public, when I need to use the restroom or any other general actions of mine.