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andres3

roadburner said:

28firefighter said:

I frankly have very little interaction with floor sales anymore because I try and schedule appointments, middle of the week, to go test drive cars and then negotiate everything by email with a sales manager. Especially when I'm trying to hack a lease and I need someone with authority to approve deals.

When I went to the Honda dealer this week, I was a little worried about what I would walk into - I was expecting the "what will it take to get you to buy a car now" nonsense and was pleasantly surprised. Really low pressure, did a great job explaining the features of the car, and didn't even make me sit down to "have a chat" with the sales manager. I explained I was still test driving and was planning to make a decision this month, he told me there was no rush and to email him any questions I had or to stop back when I was ready. He was also more than willing to admit upfront that the Accords simply aren't selling right now and that he was hoping for some incentives to get them off the lot.

I haven't dealt with the Honda dealers up here before, but I had dealt with the Mazda dealer right down the street and that was a total nightmare.

A couple of people I sold BMWs to told me that they appreciated that I wasn't pushy- I just answered questions and tried to make sure that they found the car that suited their needs/wants best.
The only time I even came close to bad-mouthing a competitor was when a couple told me that they were looking at an Alfa Giulia- right after it had been introduced.. I told them that I thought it was a wonderful car to drive, but that the Giulias that Car and Driver and Road & Track had driven had displayed a few glitches. They ended up driving the Alfa but came back the next day and bought a 340i.

I don't think that is bad-mouthing. You just stated a simple fact.

Saying Alfa has never made a car that runs without repair for more than 30 days would be bad-mouthing.

Or opinions like "XX" brand is a better value than "YY" brand.

andres3

imidazol97 said:

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

One thing was reminded of.....this Hyundai salesman really badmouthed GM and Ford, said their warranties don't mean anything. I asked him why he said that and he mentioned they wouldn't fix the seats in his car....but, no real details. If you are going to make a statement like that I would like to hear about some specific examples...and what GM actually said or did.

That's hilarious. Where I live the two car companies with the worst reputation for not covering things under warranty are Hyundai and Ford, with FCA a close third.

Wasn't it Hyundai who wouldn't handle JMonroe's claim about a failed engine after an oil change at their store?

I also had done some browsing on the net much after that and found lots of comments about the smallest excuses being invoked to not honor what the warranty by HyKia seem to offer.

I got that impression from my sales team at Kia. They urged me not to miss my oil changes by even a single mile over the recommended intervals.

JMonroe did have a claim fought and denied by Hyundai, but yet he keeps throwing money at that company for imitation cars

Anyone here have a warranty claim denied in the last 8 years?

andres3

jmonroe said:

stickguy said:

that was Hyundai, but he did the oil change. not the dealer so they cheesed out and denied it on a typo in his records.

Slight correction, the dealer did the last oil change about a month before the engine blew up. But they weaseled out because of a record keeping error they said I had on my "oil change log", even though I showed them where they could have been wrong about that. In the end they still screwed me out of about 3 grand for it when I sold it to them with the blown engine vs. a complete car.

But I made sure they lost several sales because of that and they knew I was responsible for that. One hit a real nerve when my uncle told them to cancel the deal he made with them while waiting for his car to come in. I can't remember now if it was a dealer trade or an ordered car. Even got a phone call from the SM about that.

I'd say they lost more than 3 grand in sales but even if they lost $30K in sales or more, that didn't put one penny back in my pocket. All I got was satisfaction that they knew why they lost sales.

jmonroe

That phone call from the SM must have been real satisfying!

abacomike

andres3 said:

One thing was reminded of.....this Hyundai salesman really badmouthed GM and Ford, said their warranties don't mean anything. I asked him why he said that and he mentioned they wouldn't fix the seats in his car....but, no real details. If you are going to make a statement like that I would like to hear about some specific examples...and what GM actually said or did.

That's hilarious. Where I live the two car companies with the worst reputation for not covering things under warranty are Hyundai and Ford, with FCA a close third.

Wasn't it Hyundai who wouldn't handle JMonroe's claim about a failed engine after an oil change at their store? I also had done some browsing on the net much after that and found lots of comments about the smallest excuses being invoked to not honor what the warranty by HyKia seem to offer.

I got that impression from my sales team at Kia. They urged me not to miss my oil changes by even a single mile over the recommended intervals. JMonroe did have a claim fought and denied by Hyundai, but yet he keeps throwing money at that company for imitation cars Anyone here have a warranty claim denied in the last 8 years?

I know I am putting my life in jeopardy by responding to your post, but it must be said:

Who are you to claim the high ground as to what jmonroe does with his money?  He loves his Genie and if that’s his choice, at least honor that preference.

andres3

abacomike said:

andres3 said:

One thing was reminded of.....this Hyundai salesman really badmouthed GM and Ford, said their warranties don't mean anything. I asked him why he said that and he mentioned they wouldn't fix the seats in his car....but, no real details. If you are going to make a statement like that I would like to hear about some specific examples...and what GM actually said or did.

That's hilarious. Where I live the two car companies with the worst reputation for not covering things under warranty are Hyundai and Ford, with FCA a close third.

Wasn't it Hyundai who wouldn't handle JMonroe's claim about a failed engine after an oil change at their store?

I also had done some browsing on the net much after that and found lots of comments about the smallest excuses being invoked to not honor what the warranty by HyKia seem to offer.

I got that impression from my sales team at Kia. They urged me not to miss my oil changes by even a single mile over the recommended intervals.

JMonroe did have a claim fought and denied by Hyundai, but yet he keeps throwing money at that company for imitation cars

Anyone here have a warranty claim denied in the last 8 years?

I know I am putting my life in jeopardy by responding to your post, but it must be said:

Who are you to claim the high ground as to what jmonroe does with his money?  He loves his Genie and if that’s his choice, at least honor that preference.

I'm all for him spending his money how he sees fit; it is a free Country! Or at least it used to be.

Was just giving him a hard time. My current view of Hyundai/Kia is that they make good imitation cars. They are 80% of the way there, but not all the way the "real deal." Most people don't notice the extra 20% you get with the real deal, so no loss to them.

Ignorance is bliss.

stickguy

well, a lot of people are good with 60%, so 80% is gravy. especially when you are getting the 80% for 60% of the cost.

tbirdmarco

 Wow Mike sorry hear about your incident today personally I would’ve pressed charges glad you just have a cut on your hand nothing too too serious 

tbirdmarco

 I must’ve not been in here you’re single when his engine failure incident with his car he Monroe Ha ha ha 

tbirdmarco

 When G my role as a good car now that must’ve been a bad one with the major defect 

tbirdmarco

 The dealer over here is not pushy like that at all thank God if we ever get another one 

tbirdmarco

 Enjoyed reading everything else and one on today in here catching up just now 

suydam

driver100 said:

Mike.....you lead the most exciting life I know of. You make me feel inadequate, like I don't have all this great drama going on.

There is an important lesson to be learned from this experience too; Are you sure you should be having red grapefruit juice or any grapefruit juice? Grapefruit juice can really mess up other medications. In any case, grapefruit juice is not good for you!

What a story. I was also wondering about the wisdom of drinking grapefruit juice. Both of us are on statins and we were each told not to drink it. Additionally, as a transplant recipient I was told grapefruit juice interferes with immunosuppressants. This may be a sign for you to stop drinking the stuff!

driver100

xwesx said:

driver100 said:

Here are some of the best moments from Grady Judd;

Bahahahahhaha. I like this guy already!

"You can have smart criminals. Not often, but you can."

One I like is "There's always room, in the crossbar hotel".

driver100

suydam said:

driver100 said:

Mike.....you lead the most exciting life I know of. You make me feel inadequate, like I don't have all this great drama going on.

There is an important lesson to be learned from this experience too; Are you sure you should be having red grapefruit juice or any grapefruit juice? Grapefruit juice can really mess up other medications. In any case, grapefruit juice is not good for you!

What a story. I was also wondering about the wisdom of drinking grapefruit juice. Both of us are on statins and we were each told not to drink it. Additionally, as a transplant recipient I was told grapefruit juice interferes with immunosuppressants. This may be a sign for you to stop drinking the stuff!

Grapefruit juice has interactions with so many drugs....I don't think it is worth having it, and I love it!

(and statins are one thing I do take, along with a regimen of vitamins and minerals my wife makes me take)

ab348

I'm lucky that I never liked battery acid grapefruit juice so I don't have to worry about drug interactions.

jmonroe

imidazol97 said:

jmonroe said:

stickguy said:

that was Hyundai, but he did the oil change. not the dealer so they cheesed out and denied it on a typo in his records.

Slight correction, the dealer did the last oil change about a month before the engine blew up. But they weaseled out because of a record keeping error they said I had on my "oil change log", even though I showed them where

jmonroe

After others reminded me, I remembered it was a number error on your own oil change record. But wasn't there something about their last oil change record stating they had put in the wrong oil viscosity?

Good memory imid. I hope it doesn't take too long to explain since we are about at @driver100's bedtime. If so he can read it in the morning.

The discrepancy was with my oil log sheet. I had taken the XG350 in for a problem with the seat belt indicator light staying on. This was maybe a year before the engine problem. The dealer fixed the problem with the light staying on. The paperwork I got said they found a pinched wire under the driver's seat. I never had a problem after that but when they returned the car to me I didn't bother to check the mileage when they returned the car to me. About a month after that I did my own oil change like I always did on the car. When I wrote down the mileage on my log sheet I showed a lower mileage than when the car was returned to me. I know I didn't make a mistake because I ALWAYS double check, even triple check to make sure my records are correct.

When the engine blew up I gave them a copy of my oil log and that is when they saw my oil change with what they said was the wrong mileage. That is a tough thing to argue at that time and I knew I couldn't win that argument but I said, "OK, I made a mistake but you guys made a mistake too by putting in the wrong oil. The service manager said, "we don't make mistakes like that". I said, "lets go out to my car (it was in their lot) and I'll show you the windshield sticker that shows that you put in 5W 30 instead of 10W 30 like the owner's manual calls for". He said, "I don't have to go out to your car we have a machine that prints out the correct oil to use when we put in the VIN". He proceeds to show me by putting in my VIN. Low and behold the gizmo prints out the same sticker showing 5W 30 that is on my windshield. So I said, "see, I'm not the only one that can make a mistake". Then he floored me by saying, "well, our tech knows that is the wrong oil for your car and he would have put in the right oil". No shi* he actually said that. How in the hell can you have a logical argument with someone after hearing something like that? All I could say was, "the same idiot that programmed your sticker printer, or someone just like him, wrote down the wrong mileage when you returned the car to me after the seat belt light problem. You know I'm right and I just proved it to you". So, with this dealership, when the customer is wrong he's wrong and when he is right he's wrong.

Since I worked for a very large company the word got out and that is when I turned to getting as much revenge as I could.

Like I said in my earlier post, I know for a fact that I killed more than 3 grand worth of sales for that dealer but that didn't put one penny back in my pocket. This was in November of 2011, I think I'm over it but I would still rather have the 3 grand in my pocket. Revenge is sweet but you can't spend it. All you can do with revenge is smile that you got it and I did plenty of that. Other than the engine blowing up it was a very good car. It was a 2005 with only about 43K miles on it when this happened.

jmonroe

sb55

@abacomike
WOW. Some crazy story.
Is that how you get hit on in Florida?

driver100

ab348 said:

I'm lucky that I never liked battery acid grapefruit juice so I don't have to worry about drug interactions.

The way I see it....if it can kill some of the good stuff in a medication....it can also probably kill some bad stuff too!

driver100

JMonroe....it was all the dealers fault! If the car didn't have a faulty seat belt light none of this would have happened.
I think it is more likely their employee wrote down the wrong date....but, can't that be double checked because when you brought the car in wouldn't they use the key to record the info (or was it done manually back then)?

I think in my uneducated opinion ITIMUO, that 10W30 and 5W30 are pretty much interchangable, 5W gets thinner if it has to, but would act like 10W if that was all that was required of it.

I read your post in the morning...I am getting worried, you know my bed time.

tbirdmarco

 Well G Monroe to the dealer screwed up that was what happen sounds like a [non-permissible content removed] operation yes mistakes happen things happen but they should’ve owned up to it kept lying when you called him out on their mistakes when you got revenge on them 

tbirdmarco

 Happy Friday everyone have a good upcoming weekend all weather is finally nice around here 

driver100

Drivers money saving tip if looking for an area rug:

We were looking for an area rug about 13 1/2 ft by 11 ft. Larger sizes can get expensive, most of the ones that are suitable are about $1200 to $1800, really nice ones are $3000+.

If you can find a roll of broadloom that you like, and there are some nice colors and textures, they will cut it and bind it and they work out to around $2 a sq ft.....we got the size we wanted for $500!

qbrozen

http://business.financialpost.com/transportation/autos/update-4-the-price-of-cutting-off-analysts-for-tesla-its-2-billion

abacomike

driver100 said:

Drivers money saving tip if looking for an area rug: We were looking for an area rug about 13 1/2 ft by 11 ft. Larger sizes can get expensive, most of the ones that are suitable are about $1200 to $1800, really nice ones are $3000+. If you can find a roll of broadloom that you like, and there are some nice colors and textures, they will cut it and bind it and they work out to around $2 a sq ft.....we got the size we wanted for $500!

I’ll have to file this tip under, “...when you need an area rug , call driver100 on his wife’s cell phone - he doesn’t have one!” 

jmonroe

driver100 said:

JMonroe....it was all the dealers fault! If the car didn't have a faulty seat belt light none of this would have happened.
I think it is more likely their employee wrote down the wrong date....but, can't that be double checked because when you brought the car in wouldn't they use the key to record the info (or was it done manually back then)?

I think in my uneducated opinion ITIMUO, that 10W30 and 5W30 are pretty much interchangable, 5W gets thinner if it has to, but would act like 10W if that was all that was required of it.

I read your post in the morning...I am getting worried, you know my bed time.

I didn't say it in my last post but I doubt that the wrong oil was the reason why the engine blew up. I know better than to think like that. The car was driven primarily by Mrs. j so I know it wasn't being driven hard. The 5W 30 oil was in the car for about a month if that. When the engine blew up she was deceleration coming to a light on a 35 MPH road and I doubt that she was even going at that speed. I'd be willing to bet that if the car was down 2 quarts of oil, any kind of oil, given the way she drives, if the engine wasn't bad it wouldn't have blown up. I say the engine was faulty not that the wrong oil was used. I only mentioned the wrong oil being put in because I was trying to point out to the service manager that they make mistakes too. I proved my point and he knew it.

I mentioned this before but since I have the floor I'll repeat it:

When Mrs. j and I were in the F&I office when we bought the '15 Genny, Son # 1 decided to go watch them get the car ready for us. He got to talking to the salesman and he mentioned the story about the engine blowing up in the 2005 XG350 with about 43K miles on it in 2011. The salesman was shocked at how the dealer handled the situation and said they would never do that to a customer. Of course he's going to say that. He's damn sure not going to say, "yeah we screw our customers like that too". He goes on to say they never had a problem with the 6 cylinder engine in that car and for FWIW it was a Mitsubishi engine. I'm not blaming it on Mitsubishi, every car manufacture has had fluke engines blow up but it is how the dealer handles the problem that is important.

jmonroe

Mr_Shiftright

qbrozen said:

http://business.financialpost.com/transportation/autos/update-4-the-price-of-cutting-off-analysts-for-tesla-its-2-billion

The Fearless Leader is infallible. Criticism of the Leader will not be tolerated. Critics are incapable of embracing the vast vision of the Leader and his benevolent concern for our future.

Michaell

Mr_Shiftright said:

qbrozen said:

http://business.financialpost.com/transportation/autos/update-4-the-price-of-cutting-off-analysts-for-tesla-its-2-billion

The Fearless Leader is infallible. Criticism of the Leader will not be tolerated. Critics are incapable of embracing the vast vision of the Leader and his benevolent concern for our future.

Seems like there is lots of Kool-Aid to go around, but nobody's interested.

pensfan83

Anyone here consider themselves a very good to excellent cook? I'm looking to get a smoker for meat and to cold smoke select cheeses (mozzarella, gouda, cheddar among them). I've done some reading and would be interested to know whether the electric smokers are as blasphemous as some claim they are.

abacomike

pensfan83 said:

Anyone here consider themselves a very good to excellent cook? I'm looking to get a smoker for meat and to cold smoke select cheeses (mozzarella, gouda, cheddar among them). I've done some reading and would be interested to know whether the electric smokers are as blasphemous as some claim they are.

Definitely blasphemous! I used to smoke brisket, ribs and pork in a conventional smoker in my backyard. All my neighbors used to walk over and ask if they could add some of their meats to the smoker - I always said "sure" so long as I got a slab of ribs or a pound of brisket from them.

All kidding aside, I have really never used an electric smoker, but I have some friends who do and they swear by it. I personally prefer the "Pilgrim" method - no electricity, no propane - just my aromatic wood chips and coals. I'm getting hungry just thinking about carving up the flat of the brisket and using my famous recipe barbecue sauce. OOOOOH!

oldfarmer50

I got a real education on the car business the other day. Spent my time delivering cars to dealers. The fun delivery was a Challenger Hemi with performance exhaust. I thought we only had V6s.

Most dealers were easy to deal with, a quick look around and sign off. The one exception was a sales manager who looked like Boss Hogg from Dukes of Hazzard. He was like a split personality. Taking delivery of our car he was obsessive; looking it over with a magnifying glass, very gruff. Then he noticed me looking at one of the new cars on his lot and he became my best buddy, laughing and joking and asking to "earn my business". Weird.

In manager mode he complained constantly about not getting a couple of additional cars he had ordered to the point that he made me call my boss to pass his complaint along. The boss was not pleased but he expedited one of the units and we brought it about an hour later. Boss Hogg rejected it because it had a small scratch on the bumper. So much for being nice.

Later in the day I delivered an SUV to a small indie lot and collected a check. From what they paid and what KBB says the dealer retail is they stood to make a 33% markup minus reconditioning.

I learn something new every day.

explorerx4

@oldfarmer50,
Kind of like working as a waiter in a restaurant.
You learn a lot about different types of people.

tbirdmarco

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2JdDsY-yAA

tbirdmarco

 All very interesting reading everyone above 

tbirdmarco

 Wow. The day you had delivering cars old former 

tbirdmarco

 Agree with what you said about Jay Monroe in regards to your 2005 XT 350 

oldfarmer50

tbirdmarco said:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2JdDsY-yAA

Quite amazing since they almost never bring criminal charges against CEOs. No chance he'll stand trial because Germany would never extradite.

fintail

A CEO actually being punished by our "justice system" and he's a foreign national. Shocking!

driver100

abacomike said:

driver100 said:

Drivers money saving tip if looking for an area rug:

We were looking for an area rug about 13 1/2 ft by 11 ft. Larger sizes can get expensive, most of the ones that are suitable are about $1200 to $1800, really nice ones are $3000+.

If you can find a roll of broadloom that you like, and there are some nice colors and textures, they will cut it and bind it and they work out to around $2 a sq ft.....we got the size we wanted for $500!

I’ll have to file this tip under, “...when you need an area rug , call driver100 on his wife’s cell phone - he doesn’t have one!” 

We had 65 mph winds yesterday, power was out from 5 p.m. to 12:30 a.m., so I couldn't reply earlier though I know many were waiting for my rebuttle to this slanderous remark.

For the record, I do have a cell phone, it is a pay as you go so it costs me $100 a year, no data, and I use it about 10 minutes a month mostly to let my wife know when I am running late. It sits in the car being charged up...I can never remember to take it with me.

I am not, and I don't want to be a cell phone junkie, the kind of person who has terrible withdrawal symptoms if they are separated from their cell phone for more than 20 minutes.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

I got a real education on the car business the other day. Spent my time delivering cars to dealers. The fun delivery was a Challenger Hemi with performance exhaust. I thought we only had V6s.

Most dealers were easy to deal with, a quick look around and sign off. Boss Hogg rejected it because it had a small scratch on the bumper. So much for being nice.

Later in the day I delivered an SUV to a small indie lot and collected a check. From what they paid and what KBB says the dealer retail is they stood to make a 33% markup minus reconditioning.

I learn something new every day.

OF, I just wanted to be clear. The cars you are delivering to the dealers are cars they have ordered from the car rental company right? These are used cars so they could have a mark on them correct? Do they order from a website or do these cars go back to the original dealer? When they are sold are they labeled as being rental car returns? Are the dealers new car or used car dealers? Why doesn't the rental car company sell off their own used cars?

Inquiring minds and all that!!!!!

snakeweasel

houdini1 said:

that was Hyundai, but he did the oil change. not the dealer so they cheesed out and denied it on a typo in his records.

I like Hyundai's, but I would probably never buy one because of what happened to jmonroe.

In Hyundais defense I had an exhaust manifold crack at around 130K miles. They replaced that under warranty no questions asked.

Yeah I would, and did, buy another Hyundai.

driver100

This sounds like it could be challenging:

"Musk will have to reverse what today amounts to a US$22,584 pre-tax loss per vehicle built by the Silicon Valley company."

snakeweasel

imidazol97 said:

@abacomike I would have wanted her charged AND the police to charge her for filing a false report. Too often people are able to make false accusations in this country with no penalty. A talk host in Cincy on the morning show does a bunch of strange incidents that happen in FL. Someone else said there's a blog. However, I suspect these kinds of things happen other places as well. What kind of car did she drive?

We have a radio show here that does the Florida thing too. My understanding is that Florida is really no different from any place else except that there is something in their laws that allows stories about police reports getting out easier than in other states.

stickguy

Driver, thanks for asking OF about his gig. I was wondering that too.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

I got a real education on the car business the other day. Spent my time delivering cars to dealers. The fun delivery was a Challenger Hemi with performance exhaust. I thought we only had V6s.

Most dealers were easy to deal with, a quick look around and sign off. Boss Hogg rejected it because it had a small scratch on the bumper. So much for being nice.

Later in the day I delivered an SUV to a small indie lot and collected a check. From what they paid and what KBB says the dealer retail is they stood to make a 33% markup minus reconditioning.

I learn something new every day.

OF, I just wanted to be clear. The cars you are delivering to the dealers are cars they have ordered from the car rental company right? These are used cars so they could have a mark on them correct? Do they order from a website or do these cars go back to the original dealer? When they are sold are they labeled as being rental car returns? Are the dealers new car or used car dealers? Why doesn't the rental car company sell off their own used cars?

Inquiring minds and all that!!!!!

All good questions. I don't think the company buys from dealers probably from the manufacturers directly. There are always car carriers offloading at our new car distribution center. Yes, all rentals so they might have wear and tear like any used car.

I work out of the market lot where cars go pending sale. They are all used although I've delivered vehicles with under a 1000 miles. I'm not sure but I'm guessing that the company list all their vehicles on a dealer access website so any of them can be purchased at any time/milage. When they get over 40k or so miles they are rotated out of service and get sold to dealers, private parties or at auction. IN NY a dealer is required to tell you of previous rental history.

I've delivered mainly to new car lots but I did go to a buy here pay here type place the other day.

The company moves a massive amount of cars (I've heard a million a year) in every conceivable way.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

I got a real education on the car business the other day. Spent my time delivering cars to dealers. The fun delivery was a Challenger Hemi with performance exhaust. I thought we only had V6s.

Most dealers were easy to deal with, a quick look around and sign off. Boss Hogg rejected it because it had a small scratch on the bumper. So much for being nice.

Later in the day I delivered an SUV to a small indie lot and collected a check. From what they paid and what KBB says the dealer retail is they stood to make a 33% markup minus reconditioning.

I learn something new every day.

OF, I just wanted to be clear. The cars you are delivering to the dealers are cars they have ordered from the car rental company right? These are used cars so they could have a mark on them correct? Do they order from a website or do these cars go back to the original dealer? When they are sold are they labeled as being rental car returns? Are the dealers new car or used car dealers? Why doesn't the rental car company sell off their own used cars?

Inquiring minds and all that!!!!!

All good questions. I don't think the company buys from dealers probably from the manufacturers directly. There are always car carriers offloading at our new car distribution center. Yes, all rentals so they might have wear and tear like any used car.

I work out off the market lot where cars go pending sale. They are all used although I've delivered vehicles with under a 1000 miles. I'm not sure but I'm guessing that the company list all their vehicles on a dealer access website so any of them can be purchased at any time/milage. When they get over 40k or so miles they are rotated out of service and get sold to dealers, private parties or at auction. IN NY a dealer is required to tell you of previous rental history.

I've delivered mainly to new car lots but I did go to a buy here pay here type place the other day.

The company moves a massive amount of cars (I've heard a million a year) in every conceivable way.

oldfarmer50

Don't know why that double posted. Maybe the hosts can remove the extra one.

driver100

OF....if you know how to edit go back on your post and erase it all, and just write in deleted or Hi or something.

I have another question. Did Boss Hogg turn down a car with a scratch on it thinking used cars should be in mint condition?

abacomike

driver100 said:

driver100 said:

Drivers money saving tip if looking for an area rug: We were looking for an area rug about 13 1/2 ft by 11 ft. Larger sizes can get expensive, most of the ones that are suitable are about $1200 to $1800, really nice ones are $3000+. If you can find a roll of broadloom that you like, and there are some nice colors and textures, they will cut it and bind it and they work out to around $2 a sq ft.....we got the size we wanted for $500!

I’ll have to file this tip under, “...when you need an area rug , call driver100 on his wife’s cell phone - he doesn’t have one!” 

We had 65 mph winds yesterday, power was out from 5 p.m. to 12:30 a.m., so I couldn't reply earlier though I know many were waiting for my rebuttle to this slanderous remark. For the record, I do have a cell phone, it is a pay as you go so it costs me $100 a year, no data, and I use it about 10 minutes a month mostly to let my wife know when I am running late. It sits in the car being charged up...I can never remember to take it with me. I am not, and I don't want to be a cell phone junkie, the kind of person who has terrible withdrawal symptoms if they are separated from their cell phone for more than 20 minutes.

So you are telling us you have a sort of “throw-away” cell phone.  I wonder about folks like you who are addicted to their PC platforms but dislike smartphones.  Hmmmm - not interested in texting either and no data.  A kind of “retired folks” phone.  Love it, driver!  

For me, I get the heebeegeebees when I am separated from my smartphone for 5 minutes - 20 minutes and I would have a nervous breakdown 

abacomike

snakeweasel said:

imidazol97 said:

@abacomike I would have wanted her charged AND the police to charge her for filing a false report. Too often people are able to make false accusations in this country with no penalty. A talk host in Cincy on the morning show does a bunch of strange incidents that happen in FL. Someone else said there's a blog. However, I suspect these kinds of things happen other places as well. What kind of car did she drive?

We have a radio show here that does the Florida thing too. My understanding is that Florida is really no different from any place else except that there is something in their laws that allows stories about police reports getting out easier than in other states.

That’s my understanding as well.  A TV station or radio station or print media can petition to have details of police reports - but not sure about individuals with no public audience.

driver100

abacomike

So you are telling us you have a sort of “throw-away” cell phone.  I wonder about folks like you who are addicted to their PC platforms but dislike smartphones.  Hmmmm - not interested in texting either and no data.  A kind of “retired folks” phone.  Love it, driver!  

For me, I get the heebeegeebees when I am separated from my smartphone for 5 minutes - 20 minutes and I would have a nervous breakdown

 

Whatever works for you!