Question:
What heat related condition could cause a car to stall on a hot day? I thought vapor lock went away with the introduction of fuel injection. Happened to son's car. Started right back up and gave no further problem. Temps were in the 90s.
What car and what was he doing when the car stalled?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
My old 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS with a furr-e-ner sitting in front of it that is not me
Hey, driver100, you really think the little Mazda2 hatchback is ugly? Really? I tend to like it - I like it a lot. You're used to large German cars, they're in a different class altogether. Different type of driving. Feeling the bumps is something I'm used to and it doesn't put a bug up my...armpit.
Here's a front view of the 2013 Ford Focus RT - sort of looks Matchbox cars-ish, huh, with those yellow and black bumblebee Recaro seats?
2013 Ford Focus RT in that gold
I do not just like but love that gold on this Focus RT. I saw the baby sitting over on 10th St. again today - they have buffed it very clean, though I noticed the front end has some residual bug guts that I would clean off with glee right after purchase time. It's pretty clean on the body - no dents, scratches or scuffs - I checked it out several days ago pretty thoroughly. I have a feeling that that car is not getting much attention from Alamogordo buyers at all. Cool. This is pickup truck country pretty much. There is a Ford dealer in town, Toyota dealer and a GM dealer.
With all the boomer age people retiring, plenty of buyers for those properties in FL if they go up for sale. I don't think I'll be one of them, still like my cold temps.
There was a time when cold weather didn't bother me but the last few years has just about done it for me and I'm thinking about caving and becoming a snowbird. Good to know I won't have to fight with a poster buddy for place to keep me warm come Winter.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I could snow bird. Likely not to Florida, but maybe SC someplace. I just can't bring myself to move back up north to the really cold, snowy winters. I would be perfectly happy to never see snow in person again the rest of my life. Temps below freezing? No need for that either.
What heat related condition could cause a car to stall on a hot day? I thought vapor lock went away with the introduction of fuel injection. Happened to son's car. Started right back up and gave no further problem. Temps were in the 90s.
What car and what was he doing when the car stalled?
2005 Sable with the Duratech V6. About 75k miles.
He had just dropped off a rider and turned around in her driveway. As he started moving forward he said it just stalled. Started right up and dove for hours problem free for the rest of the day. Temp gauge read normal.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
My old 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS with a furr-e-ner sitting in front of it that is not me
Hey, driver100, you really think the little Mazda2 hatchback is ugly? Really? I tend to like it - I like it a lot. You're used to large German cars, they're in a different class altogether. Different type of driving. Feeling the bumps is something I'm used to and it doesn't put a bug up my...armpit.
Here's a front view of the 2013 Ford Focus RT - sort of looks Matchbox cars-ish, huh, with those yellow and black bumblebee Recaro seats?
2013 Ford Focus RT in that gold
I do not just like but love that gold on this Focus RT. I saw the baby sitting over on 10th St. again today - they have buffed it very clean, though I noticed the front end has some residual bug guts that I would clean off with glee right after purchase time. It's pretty clean on the body - no dents, scratches or scuffs - I checked it out several days ago pretty thoroughly. I have a feeling that that car is not getting much attention from Alamogordo buyers at all. Cool. This is pickup truck country pretty much. There is a Ford dealer in town, Toyota dealer and a GM dealer.
Oh yeah.
I love your color choices. My 2008 Eclipse was a similar red color as is my Mustang. I'm intrigued by that new golden yellow color Ford has. Looks yellow from some angles and gold from others. I think it's a $500 option on the Mustang.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
First...may I wish all my American friends (and fans) a very happy Independence Day! We are all fortunate to be living in a democratic free country (sorry if that sounds political in any way) where we can buy whatever car we want to. But, it doesn't stop there...it is our way of life.
I saw those drones on the news, they can make them do all kinds of things because they are run off computers. Could stop a lot of foerst fires...over 800 in Calif alone last year on July 4th.
I could snow bird. Likely not to Florida, but maybe SC someplace. I just can't bring myself to move back up north to the really cold, snowy winters. I would be perfectly happy to never see snow in person again the rest of my life. Temps below freezing? No need for that either.
Ditto. Don't mind the cold as much as the snow...and the salt.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
iluv My old 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS with a furr-e-ner sitting in front of it that is not me
Hey, driver100, you really think the little Mazda2 hatchback is ugly? Really? I tend to like it - I like it a lot. You're used to large German cars, they're in a different class altogether. Different type of driving. Feeling the bumps is something I'm used to and it doesn't put a bug up my...armpit
A furr-e-ner! Iluv, you putting illegals into your pictures now?
Yes, I think that Mazda 2 is ugly, but I think that 2008 Mitzu has a beautifully proportioned design. I like minimal small cars....and homes for that matter....nothing wrong with small....it is the design.....the Mazda 2 looks like a little bug. Mazda 3 has a pleasant design. Actual design is very important to me.....I think a car should look like a car. Look what they can do with the Focus or the Sentra for that matter......much better looking.
I also said it because one guy at tennis says....when someone shows up with a new car....But, why did you buy such an ugly looking car?
With all the boomer age people retiring, plenty of buyers for those properties in FL if they go up for sale. I don't think I'll be one of them, still like my cold temps.
There was a time when cold weather didn't bother me but the last few years has just about done it for me and I'm thinking about caving and becoming a snowbird. Good to know I won't have to fight with a poster buddy for place to keep me warm come Winter.
jmonroe
Paid $130k....will sell for $200k, special offer to you only, $250K.
Ah, not selling for any price unless I have to pay a tariff to get in each time.
Did you see how drones are going to replace fireworks today at Travis AF base?
While impressed with the tech I worry that the good old fashion boom boom stuff may be going away.
While I have no opinion on the drones, I do have an unpopular opinion on fireworks: I don't like them.
I think it all stems from when I was a little kid and my parents dragged me to a fireworks show. It was really, really loud, I remember it made me scared, and I think that scarred me for life.
The city here seems to have a fireworks fetish because they are always shooting the damn things off and spooking the animals to no end. Plus now there are no restrictions on purchasing them so every drunk/stoned yahoo seems to think they can shoot them off in their yard. Sometimes they go over other people's houses and land on private property while still burning, a nice touch.
Question:
What heat related condition could cause a car to stall on a hot day? I thought vapor lock went away with the introduction of fuel injection. Happened to son's car. Started right back up and gave no further problem. Temps were in the 90s.
What car and what was he doing when the car stalled?
2005 Sable with the Duratech V6. About 75k miles.
He had just dropped off a rider and turned around in her driveway. As he started moving forward he said it just stalled. Started right up and dove for hours problem free for the rest of the day. Temp gauge read normal.
Pretty old car at this point. Will just have to see if it happens again. Could be one of a hundred possibilities, some of which may never happen again (water in fuel, for example). At this age, however, hopefully much maintenance has been done such as full tuneup including fuel filter, plugs, etc.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
With all the boomer age people retiring, plenty of buyers for those properties in FL if they go up for sale. I don't think I'll be one of them, still like my cold temps.
There was a time when cold weather didn't bother me but the last few years has just about done it for me and I'm thinking about caving and becoming a snowbird. Good to know I won't have to fight with a poster buddy for place to keep me warm come Winter.
jmonroe
Paid $130k....will sell for $200k, special offer to you only, $250K.
Ah, not selling for any price unless I have to pay a tariff to get in each time.
Ya know, I never thought of that. When my representative gets back to his office after their vacation, I'm going to propose that.
Thanks for the suggestion, most foreigners don't care about helping us. They just want to take but never want to give.Yep, that is a refreshing and noble idea.
Thanks again.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I've read over half of detached residential sales in some areas around me are to offshore cash buyers. No "vetting" regarding the source of the money, of course, when residency is for sale.
Most foreign buyers buy using cash. It is very difficult to get a loan or mortgage if you are not a citizen...they don't want to try to chase somebody out of the country. Same for a car lease.
I could snow bird. Likely not to Florida, but maybe SC someplace. I just can't bring myself to move back up north to the really cold, snowy winters. I would be perfectly happy to never see snow in person again the rest of my life. Temps below freezing? No need for that either.
If we ever sell the farm we are headed to Seabrook Island SC.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
We went to Seabrook last week for a vacation; maybe Ford is right to drop all but a couple of their cars. Based on my observation, about 60% of the trucks and SUVs were domestic. Cars? Maybe 10% domestic. They were either newer Cadillacs, newer ponycars, or old hoopties. Of the import cars, I'd say 60%-70% were Asian and the remainder were European. There were more geezers than I remember; notable examples of septuagenarian and up driving prowess included a lady in an Enclave who backed out of a parking space at .0005 mph, stopping every 2 feet for 5 seconds or more to assess her situation, and another lady needing over four attempts to parallel park her X1 in a space large enough to fit an F350.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
What heat related condition could cause a car to stall on a hot day? I thought vapor lock went away with the introduction of fuel injection. Happened to son's car. Started right back up and gave no further problem. Temps were in the 90s.
What car and what was he doing when the car stalled?
2005 Sable with the Duratech V6. About 75k miles.
He had just dropped off a rider and turned around in her driveway. As he started moving forward he said it just stalled. Started right up and dove for hours problem free for the rest of the day. Temp gauge read normal.
Pretty old car at this point. Will just have to see if it happens again. Could be one of a hundred possibilities, some of which may never happen again (water in fuel, for example). At this age, however, hopefully much maintenance has been done such as full tuneup including fuel filter, plugs, etc.
Sometime crank and cam sensors can get nervous when they warm up. I'd certainly scan for a code.
Question:
What heat related condition could cause a car to stall on a hot day? I thought vapor lock went away with the introduction of fuel injection. Happened to son's car. Started right back up and gave no further problem. Temps were in the 90s.
What car and what was he doing when the car stalled?
2005 Sable with the Duratech V6. About 75k miles.
He had just dropped off a rider and turned around in her driveway. As he started moving forward he said it just stalled. Started right up and dove for hours problem free for the rest of the day. Temp gauge read normal.
Pretty old car at this point. Will just have to see if it happens again. Could be one of a hundred possibilities, some of which may never happen again (water in fuel, for example). At this age, however, hopefully much maintenance has been done such as full tuneup including fuel filter, plugs, etc.
Sometime crank and cam sensors can get nervous when they warm up. I'd certainly scan for a code.
We had a Chrysler Town and Country at work that had a bad crank sensor that would cause it to stall at random times.
@roadburner, I've seen that car at the Henry Ford Museum. It was on display right when you walk in and still had the rubber and dirt from the race all over it.
2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
With all the boomer age people retiring, plenty of buyers for those properties in FL if they go up for sale. I don't think I'll be one of them, still like my cold temps.
There was a time when cold weather didn't bother me but the last few years has just about done it for me and I'm thinking about caving and becoming a snowbird. Good to know I won't have to fight with a poster buddy for place to keep me warm come Winter.
jmonroe
Paid $130k....will sell for $200k, special offer to you only, $250K.
Ah, not selling for any price unless I have to pay a tariff to get in each time.
Ya know, I never thought of that. When my representative gets back to his office after their vacation, I'm going to propose that. Thanks for the suggestion, most foreigners don't care about helping us. They just want to take but never want to give.Yep, that is a refreshing and noble idea. Thanks again. jmonroe
Yeh, and I almost forgot. I am waiting for the IRS to get back to me for turning someone in who is cheating on their taxes. I hope I get my reward soon. One thing they told me, I will always be given extra consideration when I enter the country for turning in someone who doesn't pay all their taxes.
What heat related condition could cause a car to stall on a hot day? I thought vapor lock went away with the introduction of fuel injection. Happened to son's car. Started right back up and gave no further problem. Temps were in the 90s.
What car and what was he doing when the car stalled?
2005 Sable with the Duratech V6. About 75k miles.
He had just dropped off a rider and turned around in her driveway. As he started moving forward he said it just stalled. Started right up and dove for hours problem free for the rest of the day. Temp gauge read normal.
Pretty old car at this point. Will just have to see if it happens again. Could be one of a hundred possibilities, some of which may never happen again (water in fuel, for example). At this age, however, hopefully much maintenance has been done such as full tuneup including fuel filter, plugs, etc.
Sometime crank and cam sensors can get nervous when they warm up. I'd certainly scan for a code.
I am not mechanically inclined but I think it happened because it is a Ford.
I had a Fusion rental almost 2 years ago and it cut out on me and died on a hill. Had to restart it once, and it chugged with half power, then I restarted again came back. Enterprise said it had happened before and it would be going back to Ford......so, I think it is normal.
With all the boomer age people retiring, plenty of buyers for those properties in FL if they go up for sale. I don't think I'll be one of them, still like my cold temps.
There was a time when cold weather didn't bother me but the last few years has just about done it for me and I'm thinking about caving and becoming a snowbird. Good to know I won't have to fight with a poster buddy for place to keep me warm come Winter.
jmonroe
Paid $130k....will sell for $200k, special offer to you only, $250K.
Ah, not selling for any price unless I have to pay a tariff to get in each time.
Ya know, I never thought of that. When my representative gets back to his office after their vacation, I'm going to propose that. Thanks for the suggestion, most foreigners don't care about helping us. They just want to take but never want to give.Yep, that is a refreshing and noble idea. Thanks again. jmonroe
Yeh, and I almost forgot. I am waiting for the IRS to get back to me for turning someone in who is cheating on their taxes. I hope I get my reward soon. One thing they told me, I will always be given extra consideration when I enter the country for turning in someone who doesn't pay all their taxes.
That's an old story. The IRS says that to all foreigners.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
With all the boomer age people retiring, plenty of buyers for those properties in FL if they go up for sale. I don't think I'll be one of them, still like my cold temps.
There was a time when cold weather didn't bother me but the last few years has just about done it for me and I'm thinking about caving and becoming a snowbird. Good to know I won't have to fight with a poster buddy for place to keep me warm come Winter.
jmonroe
Paid $130k....will sell for $200k, special offer to you only, $250K.
Ah, not selling for any price unless I have to pay a tariff to get in each time.
Ya know, I never thought of that. When my representative gets back to his office after their vacation, I'm going to propose that. Thanks for the suggestion, most foreigners don't care about helping us. They just want to take but never want to give.Yep, that is a refreshing and noble idea. Thanks again. jmonroe
Yeh, and I almost forgot. I am waiting for the IRS to get back to me for turning someone in who is cheating on their taxes. I hope I get my reward soon. One thing they told me, I will always be given extra consideration when I enter the country for turning in someone who doesn't pay all their taxes.
That's an old story. The IRS says that to all foreigners.
jmonroe
Shhh! That's supposed to be a secret.
Finally replaced a balky keyboard. The left shift button died. Not the end of the world but a MAJOR pain in the neck.
Out to Philly last night in the Miata. Supposedly no rain in the forecast. Getting close to the city the rain starts up. Got the top up nice and quickly (thank goodness for the shoulder) and spent 45 minutes or so sounding like I was driving a tent. Made the mistake of Google Maps. Took me to the Mann Center executive offices in Center City. The actual Center is miles away. Fortunately, I planned to be there plenty early and was still early. Emmylou Harris and Ry Cooder. If you haven't experienced Ry, you owe it to yourself. I'll have plenty of album suggestions. I figure anyone who doesn't know Emmylou is living under a rock...
Trip back was way nicer. Top down with the music blasting across the Jersey Pines. No hitting a deer like my brother with the 328i convertible. That was very unfortunate and totaled the car. Probably the deer as well.
2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
I can tell you that it didn’t happen because it was a Ford... it happened because a part is failing.
None of my Fords ever just randomly stalled.... but I guess since it wasn’t German it must be a piece of sh*t!
tjc78 - are you a big Ford proponent? If so, or even if you aren't, what'd'ya think of Ford totally dumping production of passenger cars earlier this year? I don't like it. I'm looking at possibly making a deal on one of these:
2013 Ford Focus ST 5-door hatchback turbo 6-speed
I left Ford in May of 1999 for Kia Motors, I bought a 1999 Kia Sephia 5-speed sedan at that time for $7,995. No A/C, no stereo radio, no radio of any kind. I took to the Kia brand pretty quickly, the small Sephia needed some Yokohama tires and Konig Diva wheels on it after tax refund time in Feb. of 2001. Ran like a little champ then and I grew more and more enamored to the Kia brand as time went on.
58% of the cars I've bought have been Fords, however, and I don't have a valid reason to believe this little golden rocket from Ford will be a Fix-Or-Repair-Daily. I have faith that Ford did it right. Now, my first car was a '65 Ford Mustang. Oxidized paint but cool inside slotted dish wheels and a 200 c.i. 6 cyl. engine with a stick shift transmission. Must've been a 4-speed stick but for some reason I keep thinking it was a 3-speed, I don't know why. I'm getting it mixed up with Dad's '66 VW Fastback 4-speed stick or his '63 GMC Jimmy pickup. That truck may have been the only 3-speed outta the bunch and the rest were 4-speeds.
My point is is the '65 Stang 6cyl. 4-speed stick was always at least blowing a light bulb if it wasn't brakes going out, clutch burning out, or engine trouble of some sort or transmission problems. The transmission was pretty consistent - it was the other parts of the small American car that didn't hold up. I always found a way ta get it back on the road - it was my only transportation that was my own. I could always borrow one of Dad's rigs in a pinch, though.
But are you a big Ford proponent, tjc78? I wasn't planning on returning to Ford for a new car purchase, but this little gold rocket has me ensnared in the possibilities of driving it. If somebody else picks it up it'll take the problem out of my hands. Ford man you are?
I can tell you that it didn’t happen because it was a Ford... it happened because a part is failing.
None of my Fords ever just randomly stalled.... but I guess since it wasn’t German it must be a piece of sh*t!
My Fusion rental car definitely stalled on a hill in the middle of the road. I should have put in a , didn't expect to be taken seriously. It was a Ford but realistically, it could happen to any car. The Chrysler 300 they replaced it with had steering that wanted to do it's own thing
btw....just to clarify. I don't think there are any pos cars. There are a few cars I would not consider myself.....a Fiat and a Smartcar being the only two I can think of (and that Mazda 2 tiny bug).......and that is mainly because they seem so unsafe to me.
I think Ford makes pretty good cars....in fact most cars are pretty good these days....just some suit me better than others......because of the way they are designed, or because of the way they handle....or I like the looks. I would consider a Fusion or a Mustang if I was interested in that class of car, or a Ford truck if that is what I was looking for.
When we bought the 2013 Passat it was my wife's car really, I probably would have chosen a nicely equipped Fusion that was about $20000. I got nothing against Ford, GM or Chrysler.....I choose what I do because it suits me, not because I don't like any brand.
btw....just to clarify. I don't think there are any pos cars. There are a few cars I would not consider myself.....a Fiat and a Smartcar being the only two I can think of (and that Mazda 2 tiny bug).......and that is mainly because they seem so unsafe to me.
I think Ford makes pretty good cars....in fact most cars are pretty good these days....just some suit me better than others......because of the way they are designed, or because of the way they handle....or I like the looks. I would consider a Fusion or a Mustang if I was interested in that class of car, or a Ford truck if that is what I was looking for.
When we bought the 2013 Passat it was my wife's car really, I probably would have chosen a nicely equipped Fusion that was about $20000. I got nothing against Ford, GM or Chrysler.....I choose what I do because it suits me, not because I don't like any brand.
That sounded like a lot of back peddling to me.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I never understood all the hand-wringing about the size of the Fiat 500. We rented one for fun to visit our son when he was a student at South Carolina. We loved it; if we didn't already have the Clubman to use as my work beater I'd pick up a used Abarth in a heartbeat. Of course I've corrupted my wife to the point that she doesn't like large cars either. The 2er is the largest car in our garage by nearly a foot; everything else is 165" long or less.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
btw....just to clarify. I don't think there are any pos cars. There are a few cars I would not consider myself.....a Fiat and a Smartcar being the only two I can think of (and that Mazda 2 tiny bug).......and that is mainly because they seem so unsafe to me.
I think Ford makes pretty good cars....in fact most cars are pretty good these days....just some suit me better than others......because of the way they are designed, or because of the way they handle....or I like the looks. I would consider a Fusion or a Mustang if I was interested in that class of car, or a Ford truck if that is what I was looking for.
Oh, well I'm just trying to decide if I want to seriously pursue the 2013 Ford Focus ST 6-speed turbo or take the easy way out. My wife gets so fiery about new (or new ta us) car purchases that I have to brace myself for impact. I figure if one of you were to come out and talk down the little golden rocket I would reconsider my efforts and just take the easy way out and just pay off the final two years of 2011 Kia Soul 5-speed payments and drive and maintain the car. Then trade it in for another rig - I do change my favorites so often that who knows what it might be in July of 2020!
Any of you know anything about Car Max? They will buy your car from you, whether you trade yours for one off of their lot or not? Because I owe $5,721.65 on the Soul. 2 more years of payments. I wonder what Car Max would buy my car from me for? $3,750? It's got 100,239 miles on it and it's running fine. It occasionally hard starts but I just need ta go get plugs and plug wires installed, or, it might need a fuel pump or just a fuel filter replaced.
I have noticed the 2013 Ford Focus ST 6-speed turbo's are all priced higher on Car Gurus than this guy's is priced here in Alamogordo. He only wants $11,500 for a car with 61,000 miles. They are asking $13,500-$14,000-$15,000 for these cars on nationwide CarGurus, and, what's more, most of those cars have more than 61,000 miles. He puts a trade-in sheet from NADA guides on the windshield that basically tells potential buyers that he's selling the car for about $4,500 too little. But I have verified that he's telling the truth - these cars are selling for $15,000 for this model and year - with more than 61,000 miles on them!
He says it's in excellent condition, and now that I don't think he's a liar I am even more interested. Oh, the Recaro seats are leather and it also has a power sunroof. I don't need a power sunroof but our '08 Lancer GTS had one and it was really cool to open it up on summer desert nights and hear the wind run through it. So that would be cool ta get that in the deal, too.
So I would give it that test that roadburner was talking about - what is it called, a PSI? And have the car thoroughly checked out. I'm getting those strong iluvmysephia1 feelings about this pup. The same ones that backfired on me in May 2016 when I drove west to Denver to trade for an Abyss 2016 Scion iA 6-speed! I knew the only way ta get that baby was ta take off on my own and just go buy it. Wasn't meant ta be, though. The first salesman I could get the attention of told me they sold the Abyss (black) iA not one half hour before I walked in the door. Now, Denver is a big rat-race like the city I grew up in, Seattle. Absolutely anyone can jump in and buy the car out from under you on your way to the dealer. Unless you go through their internet department ahead of time and do the deal on your e-mail or the like of that. I came home to my 22" HP monitor's screen scratched up because she got her lipstick out and tettered it all up. And I of course cleaned it all up - and it left some scratches on the screen. What the?
So the Mrs. is serious about not blowing money on cars. If I cause a wild hair to grow and decide I want a car really bad, I had best either rob a bank on the way so I can pay for it in cash, or think twice about heading in to buy it. She's been talking about drawing my Boeing pension earlier than age 62, saving up for a year or so, and buying a iluvmeysephia1-type car with cash completely.
If I did this deal, I'd still have the Soul to pay off. I'm used to just taking the dealer trade-in hit. Can't do that this time - there's no dealer sheet on the windshield of the Focus ST. Just his NADA research sheet that backs up the great deal he's asking and his own typed-up sheet where he lists details about the car, the price and his phone number. So I could call him discreetly and ask for a test drive and go from there. If Car Max gave me a good enough offer and then I financed the '13 Ford Focus RT at our bank or a local credit union before rates go up, then I would be in like flint. And wearing a football helmet to protect my head. Not from crashes in the Focus ST, from my wife! I love to drive - she does not drive. Financially, this purchase would not hurt us whatsoever. I'm working another 3-6 years, still. Probably 6 more years, the payment on this would depend on what I could sell my Kia Soul (not my own Soul!!) for. But I would say it's gonna be around $275 a month, or less, not more. For 5 years - perhaps $500 down would be all I'd put down on it. If it checked out I'd be interested in doing it - unless the test drive sucked, of course. I just re-did the math. If someplace gave me $3,750 for my '11 Kia Soul and took it off my hands, I'd owe them $1,971.65. Thrown that in on a loan from the credit union for $11,500, and ya got a grand total of $13,471.65 to finance. Subtract $500 down and you got only $12,971.65 to finance. $500 down and 60 months ta pay = a payment of only $216.19 a month. Wow - it would all hinge on a company buying my car from me. Or I could try and market and sell the Kia Soul on my own. I'd like to wrap it all in to one or one and a half deals wrapped into one loan from the credit union, or Wells Fargo. I left the interest rate off of the purchase price and the monthly payment, but it shouldn't affect the deal much at all. Wow - thanks for being a good online sounding board - this one's gonna stick in my brain even worse now.
I'm not getting any younger but I really, really love ta drive. This car would be a blast like I still feel the 2016 Scion iA would be. BTW - I could get a CPO 2016 Scion iA 6-speed for $12,999. So close to the Focus RT in price. This NADA guide totals everything up the car has and lists a going price according to NADA of $16,050 for the '13 Focus RT. The thing is, they're spot on. The price matches pretty much CarGurus' pricing for the car. And he's only asking $11,500. I think that's a pretty fair price.
Any other places buy your rig from you besides Car Max? And is there a catch to Car Max? I have heard their name, of course, but know pretty much nothing about them. When buying new TrueCar sure gives a person a good deal. Any other places buy your car from you? For a fairly fair price?
jmonroe - man, are we somehow related? Look how long this post is!
btw....just to clarify. I don't think there are any pos cars. There are a few cars I would not consider myself.....a Fiat and a Smartcar being the only two I can think of (and that Mazda 2 tiny bug).......and that is mainly because they seem so unsafe to me.
I think Ford makes pretty good cars....in fact most cars are pretty good these days....just some suit me better than others......because of the way they are designed, or because of the way they handle....or I like the looks. I would consider a Fusion or a Mustang if I was interested in that class of car, or a Ford truck if that is what I was looking for.
When we bought the 2013 Passat it was my wife's car really, I probably would have chosen a nicely equipped Fusion that was about $20000. I got nothing against Ford, GM or Chrysler.....I choose what I do because it suits me, not because I don't like any brand.
That sounded like a lot of back peddling to me.
jmonroe
Well, just because some people can't follow the logic.....doesn't make it back pedaling.
I say what I think and I think what I err, well, think or something like that anyway.
Happy Independence Day to those who celebrate early. I am waiting for August 2 for the official real indepence day anniversary, that is the date when all the delegates signed the Declaration of Independence on August 2, 1776.
btw....just to clarify. I don't think there are any pos cars. There are a few cars I would not consider myself.....a Fiat and a Smartcar being the only two I can think of (and that Mazda 2 tiny bug).......and that is mainly because they seem so unsafe to me.
I think Ford makes pretty good cars....in fact most cars are pretty good these days....just some suit me better than others......because of the way they are designed, or because of the way they handle....or I like the looks. I would consider a Fusion or a Mustang if I was interested in that class of car, or a Ford truck if that is what I was looking for.
Oh, well I'm just trying to decide if I want to seriously pursue the 2013 Ford Focus ST 6-speed turbo or take the easy way out. My wife gets so fiery about new (or new ta us) car purchases that I have to brace myself for impact. I figure if one of you were to come out and talk down the little golden rocket I would reconsider my efforts and just take the easy way out and just pay off the final two years of 2011 Kia Soul 5-speed payments and drive and maintain the car. Then trade it in for another rig - I do change my favorites so often that who knows what it might be in July of 2020!
Any of you know anything about Car Max? They will buy your car from you, whether you trade yours for one off of their lot or not? Because I owe $5,721.65 on the Soul. 2 more years of payments. I wonder what Car Max would buy my car from me for? $3,750? It's got 100,239 miles on it and it's running fine. It occasionally hard starts but I just need ta go get plugs and plug wires installed, or, it might need a fuel pump or just a fuel filter replaced.
I have noticed the 2013 Ford Focus ST 6-speed turbo's are all priced higher on Car Gurus than this guy's is priced here in Alamogordo. He only wants $11,500 for a car with 61,000 miles. They are asking $13,500-$14,000-$15,000 for these cars on nationwide CarGurus, and, what's more, most of those cars have more than 61,000 miles. He puts a trade-in sheet from NADA guides on the windshield that basically tells potential buyers that he's selling the car for about $4,500 too little. But I have verified that he's telling the truth - these cars are selling for $15,000 for this model and year - with more than 61,000 miles on them!
He says it's in excellent condition, and now that I don't think he's a liar I am even more interested. Oh, the Recaro seats are leather and it also has a power sunroof. I don't need a power sunroof but our '08 Lancer GTS had one and it was really cool to open it up on summer desert nights and hear the wind run through it. So that would be cool ta get that in the deal, too.
So I would give it that test that roadburner was talking about - what is it called, a PSI? And have the car thoroughly checked out. I'm getting those strong iluvmysephia1 feelings about this pup. The same ones that backfired on me in May 2016 when I drove west to Denver to trade for an Abyss 2016 Scion iA 6-speed! I knew the only way ta get that baby was ta take off on my own and just go buy it. Wasn't meant ta be, though. The first salesman I could get the attention of told me they sold the Abyss (black) iA not one half hour before I walked in the door. Now, Denver is a big rat-race like the city I grew up in, Seattle. Absolutely anyone can jump in and buy the car out from under you on your way to the dealer. Unless you go through their internet department ahead of time and do the deal on your e-mail or the like of that. I came home to my 22" HP monitor's screen scratched up because she got her lipstick out and tettered it all up. And I of course cleaned it all up - and it left some scratches on the screen. What the?
So the Mrs. is serious about not blowing money on cars. If I cause a wild hair to grow and decide I want a car really bad, I had best either rob a bank on the way so I can pay for it in cash, or think twice about heading in to buy it. She's been talking about drawing my Boeing pension earlier than age 62, saving up for a year or so, and buying a iluvmeysephia1-type car with cash completely.
If I did this deal, I'd still have the Soul to pay off. I'm used to just taking the dealer trade-in hit. Can't do that this time - there's no dealer sheet on the windshield of the Focus ST. Just his NADA research sheet that backs up the great deal he's asking and his own typed-up sheet where he lists details about the car, the price and his phone number. So I could call him discreetly and ask for a test drive and go from there. If Car Max gave me a good enough offer and then I financed the '13 Ford Focus RT at our bank or a local credit union before rates go up, then I would be in like flint. And wearing a football helmet to protect my head. Not from crashes in the Focus ST, from my wife! I love to drive - she does not drive. Financially, this purchase would not hurt us whatsoever. I'm working another 3-6 years, still. Probably 6 more years, the payment on this would depend on what I could sell my Kia Soul (not my own Soul!!) for. But I would say it's gonna be around $275 a month, or less, not more. For 5 years - perhaps $500 down would be all I'd put down on it. If it checked out I'd be interested in doing it - unless the test drive sucked, of course.
I'm not getting any younger but I really, really love ta drive. This car would be a blast like I still feel the 2016 Scion iA would be. BTW - I could get a CPO Scion iA for $12,999. So close in price. This NADA guide totals everything up the car has and lists a going price according to NADA of $16,050. The thing is, they're spot on. The price matches pretty much matches CarGurus pricing for the car. And he's only asking $11,500. I think that's a pretty fair price.
Any other places buy your rig from you besides Car Max? And is there a catch to Car Max? I have heard their name, of course, but know pretty much nothing about them. When buying new TrueCar sure gives a person a good deal. Any other places buy your car from you? For a fairly fair price?
jmonroe - man, are we somehow related? Look h
Sorry I can't delete or edit my previous post. Anyway I was trying to convey to @iluvmysephia1 to abandon the idea of buying that golden Ford Focust until his loan is paid off. Otherwise, the trade-in allowance on the Kia Soul would be too big of a hit on his pocket book, unless saving money is not an important consideration.
It all depends on how much of a ripoff a place like Car Max would be. My car's in decent shape, but it's a 2011 Kia Soul with 100,239 miles on it. And I owe $5,721.65 on it. If an offer came in somewhat close ta that, I could do it, because the 2013 Ford Focus ST is only $11,500. It would need to pass the roadburner test first, of course, and test-drive out good for me, too. Just kind of throwing car mush up into the air and seeing what I can learn about it once it hits earth.
It all depends on how much of a ripoff a place like Car Max would be. My car's in decent shape, but it's a 2011 Kia Soul with 100,239 miles on it. And I owe $5,721.65 on it. If an offer came in somewhat close ta that, I could do it, because the 2013 Ford Focus ST is only $11,500. It would need to pass the roadburner test first, of course, and test-drive out good for me, too. Just kind of throwing car mush up into the air and seeing what I can learn about it once it hits earth.
Agree to wait. you will be trading in a car with 100k for one with 61k miles on it, and you are paying $11500 + about $2500 balance on your car to drive a car that has as little as 40k to a maximum of 60 or 70k good miles left in it.....and won't be worth much when you are finished with it. Very risky and very expensive.
Safeco here for our vehicles. Policy started on February 13th and was hit by a stupid driver on the 28th who had Windstream. Needless to say, Safeco took the lead. Hoping to get back my deductible and rental that insurance would not cover, long story. Did a Diminished Value claim and Windstream settled for $2K.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
btw....just to clarify. I don't think there are any pos cars. There are a few cars I would not consider myself.....a Fiat and a Smartcar being the only two I can think of (and that Mazda 2 tiny bug).......and that is mainly because they seem so unsafe to me.
I think Ford makes pretty good cars....in fact most cars are pretty good these days....just some suit me better than others......because of the way they are designed, or because of the way they handle....or I like the looks. I would consider a Fusion or a Mustang if I was interested in that class of car, or a Ford truck if that is what I was looking for.
Oh, well I'm just trying to decide if I want to seriously pursue the 2013 Ford Focus ST 6-speed turbo or take the easy way out. My wife gets so fiery about new (or new ta us) car purchases that I have to brace myself for impact. I figure if one of you were to come out and talk down the little golden rocket I would reconsider my efforts and just take the easy way out and just pay off the final two years of 2011 Kia Soul 5-speed payments and drive and maintain the car. Then trade it in for another rig - I do change my favorites so often that who knows what it might be in July of 2020!
Any of you know anything about Car Max? They will buy your car from you, whether you trade yours for one off of their lot or not? Because I owe $5,721.65 on the Soul. 2 more years of payments. I wonder what Car Max would buy my car from me for? $3,750? It's got 100,239 miles on it and it's running fine. It occasionally hard starts but I just need ta go get plugs and plug wires installed, or, it might need a fuel pump or just a fuel filter replaced.
I have noticed the 2013 Ford Focus ST 6-speed turbo's are all priced higher on Car Gurus than this guy's is priced here in Alamogordo. He only wants $11,500 for a car with 61,000 miles. They are asking $13,500-$14,000-$15,000 for these cars on nationwide CarGurus, and, what's more, most of those cars have more than 61,000 miles. He puts a trade-in sheet from NADA guides on the windshield that basically tells potential buyers that he's selling the car for about $4,500 too little. But I have verified that he's telling the truth - these cars are selling for $15,000 for this model and year - with more than 61,000 miles on them!
He says it's in excellent condition, and now that I don't think he's a liar I am even more interested. Oh, the Recaro seats are leather and it also has a power sunroof. I don't need a power sunroof but our '08 Lancer GTS had one and it was really cool to open it up on summer desert nights and hear the wind run through it. So that would be cool ta get that in the deal, too.
So I would give it that test that roadburner was talking about - what is it called, a PSI? And have the car thoroughly checked out. I'm getting those strong iluvmysephia1 feelings about this pup. The same ones that backfired on me in May 2016 when I drove west to Denver to trade for an Abyss 2016 Scion iA 6-speed! I knew the only way ta get that baby was ta take off on my own and just go buy it. Wasn't meant ta be, though. The first salesman I could get the attention of told me they sold the Abyss (black) iA not one half hour before I walked in the door. Now, Denver is a big rat-race like the city I grew up in, Seattle. Absolutely anyone can jump in and buy the car out from under you on your way to the dealer. Unless you go through their internet department ahead of time and do the deal on your e-mail or the like of that. I came home to my 22" HP monitor's screen scratched up because she got her lipstick out and tettered it all up. And I of course cleaned it all up - and it left some scratches on the screen. What the?
So the Mrs. is serious about not blowing money on cars. If I cause a wild hair to grow and decide I want a car really bad, I had best either rob a bank on the way so I can pay for it in cash, or think twice about heading in to buy it. She's been talking about drawing my Boeing pension earlier than age 62, saving up for a year or so, and buying a iluvmeysephia1-type car with cash completely.
If I did this deal, I'd still have the Soul to pay off. I'm used to just taking the dealer trade-in hit. Can't do that this time - there's no dealer sheet on the windshield of the Focus ST. Just his NADA research sheet that backs up the great deal he's asking and his own typed-up sheet where he lists details about the car, the price and his phone number. So I could call him discreetly and ask for a test drive and go from there. If Car Max gave me a good enough offer and then I financed the '13 Ford Focus RT at our bank or a local credit union before rates go up, then I would be in like flint. And wearing a football helmet to protect my head. Not from crashes in the Focus ST, from my wife! I love to drive - she does not drive. Financially, this purchase would not hurt us whatsoever. I'm working another 3-6 years, still. Probably 6 more years, the payment on this would depend on what I could sell my Kia Soul (not my own Soul!!) for. But I would say it's gonna be around $275 a month, or less, not more. For 5 years - perhaps $500 down would be all I'd put down on it. If it checked out I'd be interested in doing it - unless the test drive sucked, of course. I just re-did the math. If someplace gave me $3,750 for my '11 Kia Soul and took it off my hands, I'd owe them $1,971.65. Thrown that in on a loan from the credit union for $11,500, and ya got a grand total of $13,471.65 to finance. Subtract $500 down and you got only $12,971.65 to finance. $500 down and 60 months ta pay = a payment of only $216.19 a month. Wow - it would all hinge on a company buying my car from me. Or I could try and market and sell the Kia Soul on my own. I'd like to wrap it all in to one or one and a half deals wrapped into one loan from the credit union, or Wells Fargo. I left the interest rate off of the purchase price and the monthly payment, but it shouldn't affect the deal much at all. Wow - thanks for being a good online sounding board - this one's gonna stick in my brain even worse now.
I'm not getting any younger but I really, really love ta drive. This car would be a blast like I still feel the 2016 Scion iA would be. BTW - I could get a CPO 2016 Scion iA 6-speed for $12,999. So close to the Focus RT in price. This NADA guide totals everything up the car has and lists a going price according to NADA of $16,050 for the '13 Focus RT. The thing is, they're spot on. The price matches pretty much CarGurus' pricing for the car. And he's only asking $11,500. I think that's a pretty fair price.
Any other places buy your rig from you besides Car Max? And is there a catch to Car Max? I have heard their name, of course, but know pretty much nothing about them. When buying new TrueCar sure gives a person a good deal. Any other places buy your car from you? For a fairly fair price?
jmonroe - man, are we somehow related? Look how long this post is!
I hope not. My posts make sense.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Happy Independence Day to those who celebrate early. I am waiting for August 2 for the official real indepence day anniversary, that is the date when all the delegates signed the Declaration of Independence on August 2, 1776.
I think that rumor was started by the guys that want to get rid of their left over fireworks.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
jmonroe - you mean since driver100 doesn't like my sell-n-buy idea you're gonna say my deal doesn't make sense? Come on now!
driver100 - a 2013 Ford Focus ST isn't anywhere near done. Like shifty sez, new and newer cars ought ta go 175,000 miles these days. That's 114,000 more miles. For a grand automotive purchase price of less than $15,000? For a car that goes 0-60 in only 6.2 seconds? What's not ta love and cherish about this deal?
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
My old 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS with a furr-e-ner sitting in front of it that is not me
Hey, driver100, you really think the little Mazda2 hatchback is ugly? Really? I tend to like it - I like it a lot. You're used to large German cars, they're in a different class altogether. Different type of driving. Feeling the bumps is something I'm used to and it doesn't put a bug up my...armpit.
Here's a front view of the 2013 Ford Focus RT - sort of looks Matchbox cars-ish, huh, with those yellow and black bumblebee Recaro seats?
2013 Ford Focus RT in that gold
I do not just like but love that gold on this Focus RT. I saw the baby sitting over on 10th St. again today - they have buffed it very clean, though I noticed the front end has some residual bug guts that I would clean off with glee right after purchase time. It's pretty clean on the body - no dents, scratches or scuffs - I checked it out several days ago pretty thoroughly. I have a feeling that that car is not getting much attention from Alamogordo buyers at all. Cool. This is pickup truck country pretty much. There is a Ford dealer in town, Toyota dealer and a GM dealer.
Oh yeah.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2005 Sable with the Duratech V6. About 75k miles.
He had just dropped off a rider and turned around in her driveway. As he started moving forward he said it just stalled. Started right up and dove for hours problem free for the rest of the day. Temp gauge read normal.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
While impressed with the tech I worry that the good old fashion boom boom stuff may be going away.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
We are all fortunate to be living in a democratic free country (sorry if that sounds political in any way) where we can buy whatever car we want to. But, it doesn't stop there...it is our way of life.
I saw those drones on the news, they can make them do all kinds of things because they are run off computers. Could stop a lot of foerst fires...over 800 in Calif alone last year on July 4th.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
My old 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS with a furr-e-ner sitting in front of it that is not me
Hey, driver100, you really think the little Mazda2 hatchback is ugly? Really? I tend to like it - I like it a lot. You're used to large German cars, they're in a different class altogether. Different type of driving. Feeling the bumps is something I'm used to and it doesn't put a bug up my...armpit
A furr-e-ner! Iluv, you putting illegals into your pictures now?
Yes, I think that Mazda 2 is ugly, but I think that 2008 Mitzu has a beautifully proportioned design. I like minimal small cars....and homes for that matter....nothing wrong with small....it is the design.....the Mazda 2 looks like a little bug. Mazda 3 has a pleasant design. Actual design is very important to me.....I think a car should look like a car. Look what they can do with the Focus or the Sentra for that matter......much better looking.
I also said it because one guy at tennis says....when someone shows up with a new car....But, why did you buy such an ugly looking car?
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Ah, not selling for any price unless I have to pay a tariff to get in each time.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
I think it all stems from when I was a little kid and my parents dragged me to a fireworks show. It was really, really loud, I remember it made me scared, and I think that scarred me for life.
The city here seems to have a fireworks fetish because they are always shooting the damn things off and spooking the animals to no end. Plus now there are no restrictions on purchasing them so every drunk/stoned yahoo seems to think they can shoot them off in their yard. Sometimes they go over other people's houses and land on private property while still burning, a nice touch.
Bring on the drones, I say.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Thanks for the suggestion, most foreigners don't care about helping us. They just want to take but never want to give.Yep, that is a refreshing and noble idea.
Thanks again.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
There were more geezers than I remember; notable examples of septuagenarian and up driving prowess included a lady in an Enclave who backed out of a parking space at .0005 mph, stopping every 2 feet for 5 seconds or more to assess her situation, and another lady needing over four attempts to parallel park her X1 in a space large enough to fit an F350.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Remembering an All American Le Mans Victory 51 years ago...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Sometime crank and cam sensors can get nervous when they warm up. I'd certainly scan for a code.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart
I've seen that car at the Henry Ford Museum. It was on display right when you walk in and still had the rubber and dirt from the race all over it.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Sometime crank and cam sensors can get nervous when they warm up. I'd certainly scan for a code.
I am not mechanically inclined but I think it happened because it is a Ford.
I had a Fusion rental almost 2 years ago and it cut out on me and died on a hill. Had to restart it once, and it chugged with half power, then I restarted again came back. Enterprise said it had happened before and it would be going back to Ford......so, I think it is normal.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Finally replaced a balky keyboard. The left shift button died. Not the end of the world but a MAJOR pain in the neck.
Out to Philly last night in the Miata. Supposedly no rain in the forecast. Getting close to the city the rain starts up. Got the top up nice and quickly (thank goodness for the shoulder) and spent 45 minutes or so sounding like I was driving a tent. Made the mistake of Google Maps. Took me to the Mann Center executive offices in Center City. The actual Center is miles away. Fortunately, I planned to be there plenty early and was still early. Emmylou Harris and Ry Cooder. If you haven't experienced Ry, you owe it to yourself. I'll have plenty of album suggestions. I figure anyone who doesn't know Emmylou is living under a rock...
Trip back was way nicer. Top down with the music blasting across the Jersey Pines. No hitting a deer like my brother with the 328i convertible. That was very unfortunate and totaled the car. Probably the deer as well.
I can tell you that it didn’t happen because it was a Ford... it happened because a part is failing.
None of my Fords ever just randomly stalled.... but I guess since it wasn’t German it must be a piece of sh*t!
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart
I can tell you that it didn’t happen because it was a Ford... it happened because a part is failing.
None of my Fords ever just randomly stalled.... but I guess since it wasn’t German it must be a piece of sh*t!
tjc78 - are you a big Ford proponent? If so, or even if you aren't, what'd'ya think of Ford totally dumping production of passenger cars earlier this year? I don't like it. I'm looking at possibly making a deal on one of these:
2013 Ford Focus ST 5-door hatchback turbo 6-speed
I left Ford in May of 1999 for Kia Motors, I bought a 1999 Kia Sephia 5-speed sedan at that time for $7,995. No A/C, no stereo radio, no radio of any kind. I took to the Kia brand pretty quickly, the small Sephia needed some Yokohama tires and Konig Diva wheels on it after tax refund time in Feb. of 2001. Ran like a little champ then and I grew more and more enamored to the Kia brand as time went on.
58% of the cars I've bought have been Fords, however, and I don't have a valid reason to believe this little golden rocket from Ford will be a Fix-Or-Repair-Daily. I have faith that Ford did it right. Now, my first car was a '65 Ford Mustang. Oxidized paint but cool inside slotted dish wheels and a 200 c.i. 6 cyl. engine with a stick shift transmission. Must've been a 4-speed stick but for some reason I keep thinking it was a 3-speed, I don't know why. I'm getting it mixed up with Dad's '66 VW Fastback 4-speed stick or his '63 GMC Jimmy pickup. That truck may have been the only 3-speed outta the bunch and the rest were 4-speeds.
My point is is the '65 Stang 6cyl. 4-speed stick was always at least blowing a light bulb if it wasn't brakes going out, clutch burning out, or engine trouble of some sort or transmission problems. The transmission was pretty consistent - it was the other parts of the small American car that didn't hold up. I always found a way ta get it back on the road - it was my only transportation that was my own. I could always borrow one of Dad's rigs in a pinch, though.
But are you a big Ford proponent, tjc78? I wasn't planning on returning to Ford for a new car purchase, but this little gold rocket has me ensnared in the possibilities of driving it. If somebody else picks it up it'll take the problem out of my hands. Ford man you are?
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Too bad Enterprise didn't treat you better, considering where they based.
Were you wearing that shirt when you picked up the car?
I should have put in a
It was a Ford but realistically, it could happen to any car. The Chrysler 300 they replaced it with had steering that wanted to do it's own thing
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
I think Ford makes pretty good cars....in fact most cars are pretty good these days....just some suit me better than others......because of the way they are designed, or because of the way they handle....or I like the looks. I would consider a Fusion or a Mustang if I was interested in that class of car, or a Ford truck if that is what I was looking for.
When we bought the 2013 Passat it was my wife's car really, I probably would have chosen a nicely equipped Fusion that was about $20000. I got nothing against Ford, GM or Chrysler.....I choose what I do because it suits me, not because I don't like any brand.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
You think Walmart doesn’t cut items from its shelves that don’t perform?
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart
I think Ford makes pretty good cars....in fact most cars are pretty good these days....just some suit me better than others......because of the way they are designed, or because of the way they handle....or I like the looks. I would consider a Fusion or a Mustang if I was interested in that class of car, or a Ford truck if that is what I was looking for.
Oh, well I'm just trying to decide if I want to seriously pursue the 2013 Ford Focus ST 6-speed turbo or take the easy way out. My wife gets so fiery about new (or new ta us) car purchases that I have to brace myself for impact. I figure if one of you were to come out and talk down the little golden rocket I would reconsider my efforts and just take the easy way out and just pay off the final two years of 2011 Kia Soul 5-speed payments and drive and maintain the car. Then trade it in for another rig - I do change my favorites so often that who knows what it might be in July of 2020!
Any of you know anything about Car Max? They will buy your car from you, whether you trade yours for one off of their lot or not? Because I owe $5,721.65 on the Soul. 2 more years of payments. I wonder what Car Max would buy my car from me for? $3,750? It's got 100,239 miles on it and it's running fine. It occasionally hard starts but I just need ta go get plugs and plug wires installed, or, it might need a fuel pump or just a fuel filter replaced.
I have noticed the 2013 Ford Focus ST 6-speed turbo's are all priced higher on Car Gurus than this guy's is priced here in Alamogordo. He only wants $11,500 for a car with 61,000 miles. They are asking $13,500-$14,000-$15,000 for these cars on nationwide CarGurus, and, what's more, most of those cars have more than 61,000 miles. He puts a trade-in sheet from NADA guides on the windshield that basically tells potential buyers that he's selling the car for about $4,500 too little. But I have verified that he's telling the truth - these cars are selling for $15,000 for this model and year - with more than 61,000 miles on them!
He says it's in excellent condition, and now that I don't think he's a liar I am even more interested. Oh, the Recaro seats are leather and it also has a power sunroof. I don't need a power sunroof but our '08 Lancer GTS had one and it was really cool to open it up on summer desert nights and hear the wind run through it. So that would be cool ta get that in the deal, too.
So I would give it that test that roadburner was talking about - what is it called, a PSI? And have the car thoroughly checked out. I'm getting those strong iluvmysephia1 feelings about this pup. The same ones that backfired on me in May 2016 when I drove west to Denver to trade for an Abyss 2016 Scion iA 6-speed! I knew the only way ta get that baby was ta take off on my own and just go buy it. Wasn't meant ta be, though. The first salesman I could get the attention of told me they sold the Abyss (black) iA not one half hour before I walked in the door. Now, Denver is a big rat-race like the city I grew up in, Seattle. Absolutely anyone can jump in and buy the car out from under you on your way to the dealer. Unless you go through their internet department ahead of time and do the deal on your e-mail or the like of that. I came home to my 22" HP monitor's screen scratched up because she got her lipstick out and tettered it all up. And I of course cleaned it all up - and it left some scratches on the screen. What the?
So the Mrs. is serious about not blowing money on cars. If I cause a wild hair to grow and decide I want a car really bad, I had best either rob a bank on the way so I can pay for it in cash, or think twice about heading in to buy it. She's been talking about drawing my Boeing pension earlier than age 62, saving up for a year or so, and buying a iluvmeysephia1-type car with cash completely.
If I did this deal, I'd still have the Soul to pay off. I'm used to just taking the dealer trade-in hit. Can't do that this time - there's no dealer sheet on the windshield of the Focus ST. Just his NADA research sheet that backs up the great deal he's asking and his own typed-up sheet where he lists details about the car, the price and his phone number. So I could call him discreetly and ask for a test drive and go from there. If Car Max gave me a good enough offer and then I financed the '13 Ford Focus RT at our bank or a local credit union before rates go up, then I would be in like flint. And wearing a football helmet to protect my head. Not from crashes in the Focus ST, from my wife!
I'm not getting any younger but I really, really love ta drive. This car would be a blast like I still feel the 2016 Scion iA would be. BTW - I could get a CPO 2016 Scion iA 6-speed for $12,999. So close to the Focus RT in price. This NADA guide totals everything up the car has and lists a going price according to NADA of $16,050 for the '13 Focus RT. The thing is, they're spot on. The price matches pretty much CarGurus' pricing for the car. And he's only asking $11,500. I think that's a pretty fair price.
Any other places buy your rig from you besides Car Max? And is there a catch to Car Max? I have heard their name, of course, but know pretty much nothing about them. When buying new TrueCar sure gives a person a good deal. Any other places buy your car from you? For a fairly fair price?
jmonroe - man, are we somehow related? Look how long this post is!
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I say what I think and I think what I err, well, think or something like that anyway.
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2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
jmonroe -an, are we somehow related? Look how long this post is!
I think you guys are trying for the "Longest Post of the Year" award.
I think I luv is in the lead at this point.
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the Sentra made some sense.
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driver100 - a 2013 Ford Focus ST isn't anywhere near done. Like shifty sez, new and newer cars ought ta go 175,000 miles these days. That's 114,000 more miles. For a grand automotive purchase price of less than $15,000? For a car that goes 0-60 in only 6.2 seconds? What's not ta love and cherish about this deal?
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick