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Mr_Shiftright

fintail said:

Just get fixed up and declare bankruptcy via medical bills. Only developed place in the world where such a thought is even remotely possible (yet another HDI failure).

stickguy said:

well, we have no gubbermint sponsored health care, so they will be on their own.

Highest leading cause of personal bankruptcies in America, actually--beats out credit card bills and mortgage defaults. This affects about 2 million Americans a year.

abacomike

ab348 said:

Decided to upgrade my ancient iPhone5. I like the small form factor so went with a new sealed box iPhone SE from Amazon which seemed a good value. More accurately, fulfilled by Amazon from a 3rd party vendor. It was listed as factory unlocked. It arrived today, sealed and new as advertised, but that was about all. I should have had my first clue when the thing was DOA out of the box due to a dead battery. Plugged it in and the battery was totally flat but began to charge and eventually it turned on. Started the setup and it asked me for a SIM. Odd since everything I read said that you didn't need a SIM. No problem, I popped it out of my old phone and inserted it in the new one. No dice - it says it is not compatible and that I need to go to my carrier to have them unlock the damn phone (I added the "damn" part)! Contacted the vendor thru Amazon so we shall see. Tempted just to send it back but maybe they have something to offer. Grrr.

That’s why I buy all my iPhones directly from the Apple Store.  I get my trade in value on my old phone immediately.  They then set up the new phone for me and put in a new SIM card if necessary.  They set up Apple Care for me and download my backup from iCloud.  They also apply the glass screen cover for me.

My cell phone carrier is T-Mobile so they make sure the iPhone is set up for T-Mobile.  I have done it that way for the 4 iPhones I have owned.

Mr_Shiftright

driver100 said:

I would guess that all those supposedly great drivers in America, the top 5% would last less than one hour driving a London taxi. There are narrow lanes, narrow roads, bicycles to contend with, traffic coming from all angles, people walking out onto the road, motorcycles going beside or between cars, I don't know how these guys do it every day. Same with busses.

I can't cut and paste but if someone can find a video it is a scary experience.

Trying driving on the back streets of Palermo Sicily some day. One time I had to ask people to move their lunch table, and another time I ended up going down a small flight of stairs! Geez, did I feel stupid doing that.

Never trust a GPS when the scale is under a few hundred yards, in a European city.

stickguy

Mike, phones are something I too just like to buy new. Maybe I could save a few $ buying 2nd hand or 3rd party, but I just don't feel like dealing the hassle for a couple bucks. I have verizon, and usually just get at the store (and trade in the old one). I only get one every 2-3 years so worth it to me. Plus, 24 months no interest financing, right onto the phone bill!

driver100

Mr_Shiftright said:

driver100 said:

I would guess that all those supposedly great drivers in America, the top 5% would last less than one hour driving a London taxi. There are narrow lanes, narrow roads, bicycles to contend with, traffic coming from all angles, people walking out onto the road, motorcycles going beside or between cars, I don't know how these guys do it every day. Same with busses.

I can't cut and paste but if someone can find a video it is a scary experience.

Trying driving on the back streets of Palermo Sicily some day. One time I had to ask people to move their lunch table, and another time I ended up going down a small flight of stairs! Geez, did I feel stupid doing that.

Never trust a GPS when the scale is under a few hundred yards, in a European city.

Were you in the movie The Italian Job"? It sounds like the scene with the Minis.

stickguy

don't trust it out in the country in Ireland either. Unless you really like driving down goat paths.

Mr_Shiftright

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

driver100 said:

I would guess that all those supposedly great drivers in America, the top 5% would last less than one hour driving a London taxi. There are narrow lanes, narrow roads, bicycles to contend with, traffic coming from all angles, people walking out onto the road, motorcycles going beside or between cars, I don't know how these guys do it every day. Same with busses.

I can't cut and paste but if someone can find a video it is a scary experience.

Trying driving on the back streets of Palermo Sicily some day. One time I had to ask people to move their lunch table, and another time I ended up going down a small flight of stairs! Geez, did I feel stupid doing that.

Never trust a GPS when the scale is under a few hundred yards, in a European city.

We're you in the movie The Italian Job"? It sounds like the screen with the Minis.

Literally impossible in anything less than a very small car. The taxi drivers in Sicily are amazing.

houdini1

My question is, why go there?

driver100

houdini1 said:

My question is, why go there?

Good pizza!

xwesx

stickguy said:

camera tickets? They get around the rules by not calling it a moving violaion. Rather, it is just an infraction, like a parking ticket. Not assigned to an operator. Basically the car gets the ticket. That is why no points assigned. Or trials involved.

I am sure roadburner can explain the legal technicalities involved.

Speed tax. Like tolls.... you pass this point, you pay us some money. You pass this point quickly, you pay us MORE money!!! Hahaha

Mr_Shiftright

driver100 said:

houdini1 said:

My question is, why go there?

Good pizza!

Very few Americans, gorgeous churches and temples, great food, good beaches, friendly people, interesting history.

abacomike

About a week ago, I mentioned that the upgrade to the “SunPass” system here in Florida had failed and crashed back on June 1st resulting in a few million SunPass transponder owners being unable to determine what tolls were paid and what their balances were in their accounts because the website and mobile APP are inoperative.  Well, according to an email I received last week, I was supposed to be able to retrieve my balance and get copies of my paid tolls starting Sunday.  Today is Wednesday and still no available data or info.

So I decided to call SunPass operations this morning.  I was told I should have been able to retrieve the info.  I told her no.  My account is still showing no tolls and the same balance I had on May 27th.  She checked and verified that my account, and the accounts of several million others, have not yet become available with current data.

I’m a patient man, but this is pathetic.  All they do is give out press releases that are positive so the media stays off their back, but nothing changes.  I haven’t seen one article in the newspaper about this fiasco nor have I seen anything on the evening local news about it.  Their public relations representative has done a marvelous job of squelching this.  I contacted the Governors office and they played dumb with me over the phone - like, “...oh, we thought everything was back to normal...!”  Even the State Government is in cahoots.  Amazing bit of public deception by SunPass, the media and the government.

abacomike

stickguy said:

Mike, phones are something I too just like to buy new. Maybe I could save a few $ buying 2nd hand or 3rd party, but I just don't feel like dealing the hassle for a couple bucks. I have verizon, and usually just get at the store (and trade in the old one). I only get one every 2-3 years so worth it to me. Plus, 24 months no interest financing, right onto the phone bill!

But if you get your phone from Verizon, it is a blocked phone that can only be used with Verizon. If you buy it at Apple, the phone is unblocked and can be used with any carrier.  Check it out, stick.

stickguy

well, only matters if you plan to change carriers. But I am not sure that is true at this point. My daughter would know, but it came up when she used her phone overseas (on an Irish carrier, not through VZ).

abacomike

abacomike said:

abacomike said:

stickguy said:

well, only matters if you plan to change carriers. But I am not sure that is true at this point. My daughter would know, but it came up when she used her phone overseas (on an Irish carrier, not through VZ).

This system of posting can be frustrating at times - it just gives me apoplexy.

dino001

abacomike said:

But if you get your phone from Verizon, it is a blocked phone that can only be used with Verizon. If you buy it at Apple, the phone is unblocked and can be used with any carrier.  Check it out, stick.

Actually, Verizon phones are unlocked due to some kind of FCC settlement (or at least were when iPhone6 and 7 were sold). I used to have iPhone6 with VZ and it was unlocked. It's AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile, who lock their phones, at least until you pay them off (or so I was told). I had to ask Sprint to unlock my current one internationally (and they did). I still owe couple of installments on it, will see if they unlock it after I pay it off.

suydam

This is why I always get my iPhones from the Apple Store. They set it up for you beautifully, whatever carrier you have.

suydam

Mr_Shiftright said:

driver100 said:

houdini1 said:

My question is, why go there?

Good pizza!

Very few Americans, gorgeous churches and temples, great food, good beaches, friendly people, interesting history.

Yep. Wonderful country!

berri

If you get an iPhone directly from Apple does it charge full price versus carriers that offer discount promotions?

suydam

There are always discounts, and you can trade your old one in. Certainly no more than burying at Verizon. For me having zero problems, seamless data transfer and syncing is well worth any discount.

oldfarmer50

graphicguy said:

@imidazol97 ...a rural area not far from me is going bankrupt because the courts ruled red light cameras were unconstitutional. The town is called New Miami which is about 15 miles from me. It's a small town....about 2,000 population. The revenues they derived from the red light cameras totaled about $3M. It had been operating for a few years.

As a result, millions of dollars from the red light camera need to be refunded to whomever paid the fines. That amount would set the area into bankruptcy since they increased spending significantly in anticipation of the red light camera windfall. Guess they didn't save up for that eventuality .

Last I heard, given the red light manufacturer shared in the profits, the town was trying to tie them in to share the refund burden since they also shared the profits. The manufacturer told the city they could not afford to share the burden without going bankrupt themselves.

The court ruling has most of the areas around me backing off of red light cameras.

I think I mentioned before that a local city installed red light cameras with the expectation of big rewards only to have people stop running them. The city had to give ALL the revenue to the camera company. Cheesed off the electorate something fierce. If this hadn't been a one party town for the last hundred years it might have led to a regime change.

oldfarmer50

pensfan83 said:

Some quick thoughts on my rental vehicle this week while the Acura gets fixed. Enterprise gave me a FWD 2017 Chevy Equinox and it definitely doesn't have me running to the Chevy dealer with my checkbook. The steering is numb and overboosted, the 4 cylinder feels overtaxed, and I can't seem to find a very comfortable driving position. Handling is also middling at best, even for a car based CUV (IMO). 33K hard miles may also have something to do with it as the car is fairly beat up on the sight with scratches, small dents, and scuffs on the wheels. The controls are immediately recognizable as GM (it looks like a friends older Terrain) but they are relatively straightforward and all fall easily within my reach. Also a lot of hard plastics as well on the surfaces that you see/touch the most.

I have to assume this is the base model, which was still fairly well equipped with all power equipment, satellite radio, heated cloth seats, etc and that the higher trims with the 6 cylinder and presumably more luxurious touches may change my opinion.

It surprised me that Enterprise has other trim levels besides base for their cars. Some of the small puddle jumpers are like plastic toys. Other, like the Caddie wagon thing (CTS?) I drove this week are very plush inside. Mid range cars like the Nissan Altima come in at least 3 trim levels.

tjc78

suydam said:

There are always discounts, and you can trade your old one in. Certainly no more than burying at Verizon. For me having zero problems, seamless data transfer and syncing is well worth any discount.

I do like Stick and just order from my provider (AT&T) on the zero percent financing.  Last few for both my wife and I, I just ordered right in the app and had delivered to the house.  

Activate new phone online and then plug into my computer and “restore from backup “. 

Whole process takes a half hour or so provided you had your old phone backed up to your computer.  I don’t have an expanded storage on ICloud and have far too much stuff for the free one.  

berri

Seems like those camera ticket firms make a much bigger cut of the take than lawyers, but that deal really stunk. Can't help but wonder about kickback payola.

I've found the same variation of how a vehicle is equipped at Hertz. Seems like they want you guessing until you get to the airport.

abacomike

berri said:

If you get an iPhone directly from Apple does it charge full price versus carriers that offer discount promotions?

If you were to buy a new iPhone 6+ or an iPhone 5 for cash from Apple directly, you can get a discount.  But they don’t discount their current new phones.

But they do offer the same or similar deals on contracted plans - the same offers provided by ATT, Verizon, T-Mobile, etc.

suydam

Also 0 percent financing.

oldfarmer50

berri said:

Seems like those camera ticket firms make a much bigger cut of the take than lawyers, but that deal really stunk. Can't help but wonder about kickback payola.

I've found the same variation of how a vehicle is equipped at Hertz. Seems like they want you guessing until you get to the airport.

I think the rental companies get bulk shipments from the manufactures at end of each year's production. Whatever combination of trim levels are left over get sold en mass in June. At least that's what I see at our lot where they are prepped for service. Hundreds of cars everywhere, even parked on the front lawn.

dino001

suydam said:

This is why I always get my iPhones from the Apple Store. They set it up for you beautifully, whatever carrier you have.

However, you are likely get a decent discount with a carrier that you won’t at Apple store. I got 200 bucks statement credit when signed up with VZ for iphone 6 over three years ago and 225 card when switched to Sprint at Costco previous Christmas. Both times these were latest models, neither discounted at Apple store. PLUS, both times I paid in 24 installments at no interest, something I didn’t need, but I think was required to get the rebate.

I’ll take the lock if they give me 200 bucks off, especially if they lift it when I pay it off.

ab348

The phone I got was about twice the price at the Apple store. Their trade-in they offer for my old iPhone5 was $30, hardly worth bothering. If this was as advertised it would have been easy-peasy. The problem is the Amazon listing did not match what was shipped. Now have to see what they will do.

tbirdmarco

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ksmBQvRXOEA

sda

driver100 said:

We are staying a block from Harrods, a Ferrari dealer a few blocks away, a McClaren dealer the other way. Both are small stores with 2 cars in a beautiful showroom.

So you are in Knightsbridge? The American Community School that I attended was near Harrods and that was the tube station I commuted from. Dad's office was in Wimbledon and we lived in Oxshott, Surrey. That was in 1974-75. Enjoy!

andres3

dino001 said:

andres3 said:

Just a question, have you ever seen someone weave through multiple lanes of freeway with no letting up with no other cars around? And if so,any that were not drunk?

I think the answer shows what we all know, that weaving is a reaction to a cause. We just don't want to acknowledge the real cause sometimes. It's easier to blame the effect than the cause.

I personally, blame the cause, and it's traffic impeders.

Yes and yes. Many young gods in cars that were somewhat spec'd up, usually with wings and flares. Immortal, superior, absolutely unconcerned about safety of their own and others. Then I saw even more of those who would weave back and forth with "some" consideration in a fairly crowded place (I mean all three lanes loaded with cars going 60-70 mph, sometimes more with majority of drivers observing reasonable distances between each other considering the speed. Those were usually "normal" cars, driven by a bit larger group of driver gods of different age and gender, also convinced that the world would come to absolute end if they had to drive like the rest of us. A gap between two cars going 70 mph meant for them it's something they had a license to go into without any consideration of other peoples' comfort, sense of safety, or simple courtesy. Priority for their time, superiority of their skills and inferiority of everybody else's was written in the Bible and Constitution. There are times, unfortunately, when your posts give me (perhaps mistaken) impression that you are a member of that club, or perhaps even a founder of a local chapter. I can be wrong, though...

Nah, I'm much tamer on 2 and 3 lane roads than the 4, 5, and 6 lane wide freeways I'm on every day. With so many lanes available to me, it is quite easy to both weave and be safe and considerate to others.

However, I often have to wonder why someone that is part of slower traffic (and I don't just mean compared to me, but many others as well) thinks it's OK to be 4 lanes away from where they should be. My conclusion is brain dead; zombies.

It's bad enough the truckers avoid the right-most lane, mostly probably due to bad merges by bad drivers. Still, they are only 1 lane away from where they should be... how does one explain being 4 lanes over with no other traffic around them? I need to get a dash cam and post some greatest hits.

What I'm doing must be working, because unlike @graphicguy I may get the tickets, but I'm not getting into any accidents, especially at-fault accidents. All the near misses tend to happen at 0-10 MPH too.

For those that say speeders are so dangerous they will eventually impede traffic... I've been driving nearly 25 years now, just when will I cause a wreck that impedes traffic?

Are there any here that consider all rear-end collisions unsafe speed violations? I view them as failure to yield errors usually due to distraction. You can rear-end someone at 1 MPH.

andres3

stickguy said:

IM too old at this point for the stress of having to be hyper alert looking for cops hiding just so I can go a few MPH faster. Much more relaxing to stay in the safe window on the highway (5-9 over, depending on situation) and let the fly boys find the smokies. Then concentrate on the idiots on the road instead.

Me too, (regarding cops and hyper vigilance) I watch out for them diligently, but I'm too old to worry about it. I have many lawyers happy to take my business now.

If they want to pull me over, pull me over. Have at it. Just write it quick and try to spare me a condescending lecture. A warning? Even better; I'll appreciate that. Never got mad at a cop for a warning. Used to get mad at those that wrote citations. NO longer. I realize now with widom it isn't personal.

Most likely, 8 out of 10 Officer's in the Department wouldn't have pulled me over under the same set of circumstances, I just draw the bad apples. The CHP has gotten better lately (knocking on wood).

andres3

graphicguy said:

@imidazol97 ...a rural area not far from me is going bankrupt because the courts ruled red light cameras were unconstitutional. The town is called New Miami which is about 15 miles from me. It's a small town....about 2,000 population. The revenues they derived from the red light cameras totaled about $3M. It had been operating for a few years.

As a result, millions of dollars from the red light camera need to be refunded to whomever paid the fines. That amount would set the area into bankruptcy since they increased spending significantly in anticipation of the red light camera windfall. Guess they didn't save up for that eventuality .

Last I heard, given the red light manufacturer shared in the profits, the town was trying to tie them in to share the refund burden since they also shared the profits. The manufacturer told the city they could not afford to share the burden without going bankrupt themselves.

The court ruling has most of the areas around me backing off of red light cameras.

Government officials responsible for these cameras should be tried and convicted of HIGH TREASON to the United States of America!

andres3

stickguy said:

Some years back, my boss was snagged in I295 for passing on the right (maybe speed too). A stretch where it is at least 4 lanes wide. Came up on a rolling roadblock of cars pacing in the left 3 lanes right at (I think) the SL. so he went to the right lane to get around.

Turns out they were all troopers running a sting operation of sorts, causing a traffic hazard. Not rhe safest move it would not appear. But he got pulled over and ticketed.

Does anyone know how many States make passing on the right Illegal? Not that I'd obey that law anyway, but it would be good to know where I better keep one eye out for LEO's?

I often have to "borrow" the HOV lane only where there are no double yellows for a few hundred feet to pass left lane campers. I feel my excuse is a valid exception. I'll go 20 over the limit without hesitation when safe, but I don't like violating double yellows or HOV lane laws.

andres3

henryn said:

graphicguy said:

The last encounter I had was a few years ago where some old dude was doing 15MPH in a 40 MPH zone. I flashed him a couple of times, which caused him to slow down to 10 MPH. I tried to pass him on the left, legally, which caused him to drift to the left to keep me from passing. Finally, I actually passed him illegally on the right as he was clearly stupid, on drugs or drunk. Unfortunately, there was a local cop a few cars behind who observed the whole thing. He lit up both of us.

Long and short of it, the guy was on drugs (middle of the day) and pretty obstinate with the cop. He was cuffed. I was allowed to go my merry way with a stern warning.

About 20 years ago, I was sitting in a line of traffic, waiting on a red light. The car behind me bumped into me, and stayed in contact. A very slight bump, no damage, but a little weird. I got out of my car, checked for damage, of which there was none as our bumpers did line up. I walked back to speak to the driver. He was unresponsive, would not acknowledge me. Staring straight ahead, not moving. But his face was pale, and sweaty.

By this time the light had changed, people were honking their horns, and I was really unsure what to do. I couldn’t just drive off, my car was the only thing holding his car in place. I wasn’t sure whether we needed an ambulance or a LEO or both. Fortunately, a police car came along and I was able to flag him down. He opened the door, put the car in park, turned off the ignition, and called for an ambulance. I never did find out whether the guy was sick or drugged, but he was completely unresponsive through all of this. Eyes open, but unresponsive. Definitely a weird experience.

Must be one of those brain-dead zombies I mentioned in a previous post!

andres3

xwesx said:

stickguy said:

camera tickets? They get around the rules by not calling it a moving violaion. Rather, it is just an infraction, like a parking ticket. Not assigned to an operator. Basically the car gets the ticket. That is why no points assigned. Or trials involved.

I am sure roadburner can explain the legal technicalities involved.

Speed tax. Like tolls.... you pass this point, you pay us some money. You pass this point quickly, you pay us MORE money!!! Hahaha

I'd be more OK with a speed tax than the current farce masquerading as safety.

Also, if is point A to point B time based speed tax, there are other ways to not cross the finish line too soon to trigger any red flags.

suydam

andres3 said:

stickguy said:

Some years back, my boss was snagged in I295 for passing on the right (maybe speed too). A stretch where it is at least 4 lanes wide. Came up on a rolling roadblock of cars pacing in the left 3 lanes right at (I think) the SL. so he went to the right lane to get around.

Turns out they were all troopers running a sting operation of sorts, causing a traffic hazard. Not rhe safest move it would not appear. But he got pulled over and ticketed.

Does anyone know how many States make passing on the right Illegal? Not that I'd obey that law anyway, but it would be good to know where I better keep one eye out for LEO's?

I often have to "borrow" the HOV lane only where there are no double yellows for a few hundred feet to pass left lane campers. I feel my excuse is a valid exception. I'll go 20 over the limit without hesitation when safe, but I don't like violating double yellows or HOV lane laws.

You mean you use the HOV Lane as a passing lane, and JUSTIFY that somehow? Boy, you really do feel entitled, don’t you?

andres3

suydam said:

andres3 said:

stickguy said:

Some years back, my boss was snagged in I295 for passing on the right (maybe speed too). A stretch where it is at least 4 lanes wide. Came up on a rolling roadblock of cars pacing in the left 3 lanes right at (I think) the SL. so he went to the right lane to get around.

Turns out they were all troopers running a sting operation of sorts, causing a traffic hazard. Not rhe safest move it would not appear. But he got pulled over and ticketed.

Does anyone know how many States make passing on the right Illegal? Not that I'd obey that law anyway, but it would be good to know where I better keep one eye out for LEO's?

I often have to "borrow" the HOV lane only where there are no double yellows for a few hundred feet to pass left lane campers. I feel my excuse is a valid exception. I'll go 20 over the limit without hesitation when safe, but I don't like violating double yellows or HOV lane laws.

You mean you use the HOV Lane as a passing lane, and JUSTIFY that somehow? Boy, you really do feel entitled, don’t you?

I suppose, my tax money paid for those lanes after all. My borrowing them for a few seconds doesn't slow anyone down or put anyone out. This only works if the lane is wide open in the "open/merging" section, which of course is why there are no double yellows.

I just don't feel safe behind an LLC. I either have to move right, pass right, or preferably, pass left. Even worse, if someone is an LLC, I consider them to likely be a reckless driver, so I don't want to be anywhere near them any longer than I have to be.

Often was the wrong word choice though. I would say this is seldomly required. On occassion. Once in a while.

driver100

sda said:

driver100 said:

We are staying a block from Harrods, a Ferrari dealer a few blocks away, a McClaren dealer the other way. Both are small stores with 2 cars in a beautiful showroom.

So you are in Knightsbridge? The American Community School that I attended was near Harrods and that was the tube station I commuted from. Dad's office was in Wimbledon and we lived in Oxshott, Surrey. That was in 1974-75. Enjoy!

That is cool sda. Yes, we are on the street that runs behind Harrods. Harrods and Selfridge are extremely expensive stores to shop in, and they are packed. Things are booming here. Cranes and new buildings going up everywhere. Now I see what they are trying to do to our cities back home. Make driving impossible, and cities are for pedestrians, bikes, taxis and busses.

xwesx

andres3 said:

xwesx said:

stickguy said:

camera tickets? They get around the rules by not calling it a moving violaion. Rather, it is just an infraction, like a parking ticket. Not assigned to an operator. Basically the car gets the ticket. That is why no points assigned. Or trials involved.

I am sure roadburner can explain the legal technicalities involved.

Speed tax. Like tolls.... you pass this point, you pay us some money. You pass this point quickly, you pay us MORE money!!! Hahaha

I'd be more OK with a speed tax than the current farce masquerading as safety.

Also, if is point A to point B time based speed tax, there are other ways to not cross the finish line too soon to trigger any red flags.

Yeah, I agree. I do recall going through Ohio or Indiana on I-90 a while ago, which is a toll road. They actually had signs up that noted you would pay a higher toll if you reached up-road toll stations too quickly. I don't recall the thresholds, but it was reasonably generous.

xwesx

andres3 said:

I suppose, my tax money paid for those lanes after all. My borrowing them for a few seconds doesn't slow anyone down or put anyone out. This only works if the lane is wide open in the "open/merging" section, which of course is why there are no double yellows.

I just don't feel safe behind an LLC. I either have to move right, pass right, or preferably, pass left. Even worse, if someone is an LLC, I consider them to likely be a reckless driver, so I don't want to be anywhere near them any longer than I have to be.

Often was the wrong word choice though. I would say this is seldomly required. On occassion. Once in a while.

Last time we were driving through the Portland (OR) area, nearly every single vehicle in the "HOV" lane had only one occupant. I actually left that lane because it was moving more slowly than the standard left lane. Plus, mine seemed to be the only car with multiple people in it (in the HOV lane), and I felt less annoyed not driving with all those other entitled yahoos.

driver100

suydam said:

andres3 said:

stickguy said:

Some years back, my boss was snagged in I295 for passing on the right (maybe speed too). A stretch where it is at least 4 lanes wide. Came up on a rolling roadblock of cars pacing in the left 3 lanes right at (I think) the SL. so he went to the right lane to get around.

Turns out they were all troopers running a sting operation of sorts, causing a traffic hazard. Not rhe safest move it would not appear. But he got pulled over and ticketed.

Does anyone know how many States make passing on the right Illegal? Not that I'd obey that law anyway, but it would be good to know where I better keep one eye out for LEO's?

I often have to "borrow" the HOV lane only where there are no double yellows for a few hundred feet to pass left lane campers. I feel my excuse is a valid exception. I'll go 20 over the limit without hesitation when safe, but I don't like violating double yellows or HOV lane laws.

You mean you use the HOV Lane as a passing lane, and JUSTIFY that somehow? Boy, you really do feel entitled, don’t you?

Probably moves over on to an entrance ramp and reenters a few cars ahead too, I am sure there will be some way to justify it.

driver100

Someone here is going to scoop the "Most Words Used in a Year" contest away from our front runner, JM.o.n.r.o.e.

qbrozen

andres3 said:

Some years back, my boss was snagged in I295 for passing on the right (maybe speed too). A stretch where it is at least 4 lanes wide. Came up on a rolling roadblock of cars pacing in the left 3 lanes right at (I think) the SL. so he went to the right lane to get around. Turns out they were all troopers running a sting operation of sorts, causing a traffic hazard. Not rhe safest move it would not appear. But he got pulled over and ticketed.

Does anyone know how many States make passing on the right Illegal? Not that I'd obey that law anyway, but it would be good to know where I better keep one eye out for LEO's? I often have to "borrow" the HOV lane only where there are no double yellows for a few hundred feet to pass left lane campers. I feel my excuse is a valid exception. I'll go 20 over the limit without hesitation when safe, but I don't like violating double yellows or HOV lane laws.

I never understood that law, and I'd be curious to see when it is enforced. NJ has both no pass on right AND keep right except to pass laws. So, theoretically, a left lane camper can completely impede an entire highway if everyone were to follow the no pass on right law. And what happens when someone does pass? Which offense takes priority? The camper or the passer? These are the things I ponder while traveling our roadways.

tbirdmarco

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tjc78

qbrozen said:

andres3 said:

Some years back, my boss was snagged in I295 for passing on the right (maybe speed too). A stretch where it is at least 4 lanes wide. Came up on a rolling roadblock of cars pacing in the left 3 lanes right at (I think) the SL. so he went to the right lane to get around. Turns out they were all troopers running a sting operation of sorts, causing a traffic hazard. Not rhe safest move it would not appear. But he got pulled over and ticketed.

Does anyone know how many States make passing on the right Illegal? Not that I'd obey that law anyway, but it would be good to know where I better keep one eye out for LEO's? I often have to "borrow" the HOV lane only where there are no double yellows for a few hundred feet to pass left lane campers. I feel my excuse is a valid exception. I'll go 20 over the limit without hesitation when safe, but I don't like violating double yellows or HOV lane laws.

I never understood that law, and I'd be curious to see when it is enforced. NJ has both no pass on right AND keep right except to pass laws. So, theoretically, a left lane camper can completely impede an entire highway if everyone were to follow the no pass on right law. And what happens when someone does pass? Which offense takes priority? The camper or the passer? These are the things I ponder while traveling our roadways.

https://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2015/06/whats_the_correct_answer_about_passing_on_the_righ.html

This is an interesting read and how I always understood it.  

stickguy

Interesting to see official rules. Confirm that passing slow pokes on the turnpike to the right is legal.

suydam

If you drive a plug-in Hybrid it’s ok to have only one occupant in the HOV lane.

driver100

tjc78 said:

qbrozen said:

andres3 said:

Some years back, my boss was snagged in I295 for passing on the right (maybe speed too). A stretch where it is at least 4 lanes wide. Came up on a rolling roadblock of cars pacing in the left 3 lanes right at (I think) the SL. so he went to the right lane to get around.

Turns out they were all troopers running a sting operation of sorts, causing a traffic hazard. Not rhe safest move it would not appear. But he got pulled over and ticketed.

Does anyone know how many States make passing on the right Illegal? Not that I'd obey that law anyway, but it would be good to know where I better keep one eye out for LEO's?

I often have to "borrow" the HOV lane only where there are no double yellows for a few hundred feet to pass left lane campers. I feel my excuse is a valid exception. I'll go 20 over the limit without hesitation when safe, but I don't like violating double yellows or HOV lane laws.

I never understood that law, and I'd be curious to see when it is enforced. NJ has both no pass on right AND keep right except to pass laws. So, theoretically, a left lane camper can completely impede an entire highway if everyone were to follow the no pass on right law. And what happens when someone does pass? Which offense takes priority? The camper or the passer? These are the things I ponder while traveling our roadways.

https://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2015/06/whats_the_correct_answer_about_passing_on_the_righ.html

This is an interesting read and how I always understood it.  

Those rules seem to apply in most places....as far as I know it would be the same here in Ontario Canada.