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bwia

Yesterday I bought a Nest Gen 3 Thermostat MSRP $249 for $199 at Home Depot, The device comes with a $100 rebate offered through Mass Save. It was installed by my tech-challenged handyman who took a few hours to get it running. I will give an update after a week or two after the system has learned how to control itself whether you are home or away. Nice looking gadget but I believe the large display should be the room temperature rather than the set temperature.

Notice the 75 is the set temperature and the faint 76 at top right is the room temperature. All of this is controlled by your smart phone anywhere in the world.

nyccarguy

bwia said:

Yesterday I bought a Nest Gen 3 Thermostat MSRP $249 for $199 at Home Depot, The device comes with a $100 rebate offered through Mass Save. It was installed by my tech-challenged handyman who took a few hours to get it running. I will give an update after a week or two after the system has learned how to control itself whether you are home or away. Nice looking gadget but I believe the large display should be the room temperature rather than the set temperature. Notice the 75 is the set temperature and the faint 76 at top right is the room temperature.

I have one of those nests and HATE it.  During the winter it is OK, but make sure you turn ALL the “eco” settings off otherwise your AC won’t be able to keep up.

tjc78

I gave up on changing the temps in my house. With my Mom there now it's almost always occupied so we all settled on a temp and it stays there. If it's under 85 we drop it a degree otherwise it is set and forget.

With the heat I literally didn't touch the thing for a few months.

stickguy

we do the same thing. one temp for the heat, and one for AC. and when possible, I shut the whole thing off and roll with whatever mother nature decides. Just never felt like setting up programs for day/night. Would not be changing it much.

and we do have some whiz bang internet connected thermostat that can do all the fancy stuff. I just use it like an old fashioned dial one. select a temp, pick heat or cool, and that is it!

Mr_Shiftright

What temperature in the house can you tolerate before you hit the AC button?

laurasdada

Depends upon the humidity level, but generally when my interior reaches 84, I start some AC love.

28firefighter

We have Nest and have trained it to keep the house in winter at 68 during the day 65 in the evenings; In summer I keep the house around 75-77 during the day and 71 at night. It doesn't kick on the AC very often right now in Seattle, though I do occasionally have the blower turn on just to circulate some air.

qbrozen

I love the Nest. Had one in my old house and put 2 in this house as soon as we moved in. If you have an Echo, that will also communicate with it. So I can say "Alexa, set dining room to 72 degrees," and she'll do it.

Mr_Shiftright

laurasdada said:

Depends upon the humidity level, but generally when my interior reaches 84, I start some AC love.

I hit my limit at about 81. But once I'll cooled it down to around 78, I switch off and usually that'll hold me for a long time. In winter I get a bit uncomfortable below 68 or so.

Here in California, houses are the coldest in America. How is that possible? Well, the climate is so temperate that nobody builds with much insulation, or at least they didn't until "modern times". I've been in million dollar "shacks" in California where there's nothing but newspaper in the walls.

pensfan83

We're behind the times with a simple, 7 day programmable Honeywell, haha. Maybe when the HVAC needs replaced we'll upgrade to one of the fancier thermostats but for now the Honeywell works perfectly for us.

stickguy

i can tolerate a lot hotter than the wife. Or the dog. I turn the AC on if the dog looks hot. Not for the wife though (and when I tell her I did it for her, she knows better!)

around 84 if it is humid.

right now, AC is set to 73 and I was freezing so I have a blanket over my lap and legs/feet. Need to go put my fuzzy slippers back on. If my wife was not home I would open the windows instead.

helps that the last couple days, it is not very humid out.

xwesx

pensfan83 said:

We're behind the times with a simple, 7 day programmable Honeywell, haha. Maybe when the HVAC needs replaced we'll upgrade to one of the fancier thermostats but for now the Honeywell works perfectly for us.

Yes, same here. I have seven zones in my house.... there's no way I am ever buying any of this "smart home" crap!

houdini1

tjc78 said:

I gave up on changing the temps in my house. With my Mom there now it's almost always occupied so we all settled on a temp and it stays there. If it's under 85 we drop it a degree otherwise it is set and forget.

With the heat I literally didn't touch the thing for a few months.

Ditto

ab348

I dunno if I'd want the Nest (and it's Google accomplices) to know when I'm home and when I'm out, when I'm hot and when I'm cold. It's all a big conspiracy, I tells ya!!!

explorerx4

I have a programmable thermostat, but set the A/C to 72 up and down. Heat 68 first floor/ 64 second floor.
It remembers the heat vs A/C settings, so I rarely change it.

laurasdada

I live alone (most of the time) in an 1100 sq ft. condo, one level above the garage. Due to the heating elements in the ceiling of the garage (for sprinkler system), I reap the benefits of the rising heat, so my heating bill is usually no more than the basic monthly gas charge. Well, that and wearing sweatshirts... I've got a multi programmable thermostat, that suits me fine. National Grid recently massively subsidized Nest and Ecobee magic thermostats, but I don't feel the need at this time.

Heated seats in the Jag come in 3 levels:
1. Very hot
2. Death Valley (but it's a dry heat)
3. Global Thermo Nuclear War

Heated steering wheel, however, priceless.

jmonroe

driver100 said:

Someone here is going to scoop the "Most Words Used in a Year" contest away from our front runner, JM.o.n.r.o.e.

You got that right and all of them on the same subject too. That should invoke a dues bump. At least I spread the wealth around on various interesting subjects that everyone is interested in and because of that I get a discount on my dues.

jmonroe

explorerx4

I think those posts also qualify for the 'Most Words Skipped' trophy.

sb55

We have 6 zones and 3 are in-floor radiant with a fairly open floor plan.   The installer said that since the water is merely warm in the radiant tubes, it doesn't work well to use a setback thermostat since it takes too long to get the room up to temp.  Instead, it is easy to maintain the temp.  In winter, main room is set to 66, bedroom to 64 and master bath to 68.  So, plain old thermostats for me. 

For AC we just have a single heat pump mini-split unit that keeps most of the house comfortable with judicious use of ceiling fans and a floor fan. We also use this during the "shoulder" season on chilly days before the heating season really kicks in. 

Michaell

My wife is turning into Big Brother. The new house we bought had a Nest camera installed to view the front door and porch. She has since bought three more cameras - one for the main hallway, another for the living room, and a third for the back porch. Primarily to see what the dogs are up to when nobody is home, but it's creepy knowing she can watch me at certain points throughout the house, as I work from home.

We do have a programmable thermostat, but it's not a Nest. Still fiddling with the settings, even after being here a couple of months. I'm sure we will need to futz with it when winter comes, as well.

isellhondas

snakeweasel said:

isellhondas said:

fintail said:

I can believe it. I know someone who recently sold in Everett. Even there - doubled their money in less than 5 years , had something like 9 bids over asking. In Everett. Of course, they had to jump into a market where everything else has fared similarly, so now they have what I call a Big Daddy mortgage.

I am glad I am happy with nothing more than a condo so long as it has a garage.

Also amusing that for all of this tough talk regarding foreign trade, nobody is going to touch the offshore real estate money, nor perform any real vetting.

isellhondas said:

No, that isn't the case. Just modest hmes that get listed for a million dollars and sell the next day for 1.1 million. The money comes from out of the U.S. Just amazing!

Condos are great unless/until you get a rotten neighbor! Ask our son!

You run the risk of having a bad neighbor in a house too. About the only way to shield yourself from a bad neighbor is with either a tall fence or a lot of distance. 

Except in a condo you can't build that fence and that bad neighbor may share a wall or a ceiling with you. Theny may also cook foods that produce odors that will leach through your walls. Or, you could get lucky!

berri

Hey, control your home by wifi and you have the opportunity for some hacker treating you to surprises - can keep you young guessing

Mr_Shiftright

Michaell said:

My wife is turning into Big Brother. The new house we bought had a Nest camera installed to view the front door and porch. She has since bought three more cameras - one for the main hallway, another for the living room, and a third for the back porch. Primarily to see what the dogs are up to when nobody is home, but it's creepy knowing she can watch me at certain points throughout the house, as I work from home.

We do have a programmable thermostat, but it's not a Nest. Still fiddling with the settings, even after being here a couple of months. I'm sure we will need to futz with it when winter comes, as well.

What does it matter if she sees the dogs eating the couch while she's out? By the time she or you gets back, they'll have finished it off.

stickguy

I don't think Doxies can eat that fast. A lab, well, that could do it.

suydam

isellhondas said:

snakeweasel said:

isellhondas said:

fintail said:

I can believe it. I know someone who recently sold in Everett. Even there - doubled their money in less than 5 years , had something like 9 bids over asking. In Everett. Of course, they had to jump into a market where everything else has fared similarly, so now they have what I call a Big Daddy mortgage.

I am glad I am happy with nothing more than a condo so long as it has a garage.

Also amusing that for all of this tough talk regarding foreign trade, nobody is going to touch the offshore real estate money, nor perform any real vetting.

isellhondas said:

No, that isn't the case. Just modest hmes that get listed for a million dollars and sell the next day for 1.1 million. The money comes from out of the U.S. Just amazing!

Condos are great unless/until you get a rotten neighbor! Ask our son!

You run the risk of having a bad neighbor in a house too. About the only way to shield yourself from a bad neighbor is with either a tall fence or a lot of distance. 

Except in a condo you can't build that fence and that bad neighbor may share a wall or a ceiling with you. Theny may also cook foods that produce odors that will leach through your walls. Or, you could get lucky!

That would be a poorly built condo. I have NEVER smelled my neighbors’ cooking. I only hear them if my window is open and they are outside.

tbirdmarco

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RAIZcNl4pYM

tbirdmarco

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FlRQRPKEwDY

benjaminh

tbirdmarco said:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RAIZcNl4pYM

This guy certainly sounds a lot like his dad lol! But that's a good thing, since I like this show.

tjc78

Mr_Shiftright said:

What temperature in the house can you tolerate before you hit the AC button?

76

oldfarmer50

andres3 said:

stickguy said:

IM too old at this point for the stress of having to be hyper alert looking for cops hiding just so I can go a few MPH faster. Much more relaxing to stay in the safe window on the highway (5-9 over, depending on situation) and let the fly boys find the smokies. Then concentrate on the idiots on the road instead.

Me too, (regarding cops and hyper vigilance) I watch out for them diligently, but I'm too old to worry about it. I have many lawyers happy to take my business now.

If they want to pull me over, pull me over. Have at it. Just write it quick and try to spare me a condescending lecture. A warning? Even better; I'll appreciate that. Never got mad at a cop for a warning. Used to get mad at those that wrote citations. NO longer. I realize now with widom it isn't personal.

Most likely, 8 out of 10 Officer's in the Department wouldn't have pulled me over under the same set of circumstances, I just draw the bad apples. The CHP has gotten better lately (knocking on wood).

One of our older drivers (late 70s) got pulled over for speeding and crossing the center line on his way to work this morning. He told the cop that he was being "deer aware" in case one jumped out from the bushes. The officer must have thought the guy looked like his grandpa because he was let go without a ticket.

oldfarmer50

xwesx said:

pensfan83 said:

We're behind the times with a simple, 7 day programmable Honeywell, haha. Maybe when the HVAC needs replaced we'll upgrade to one of the fancier thermostats but for now the Honeywell works perfectly for us.

Yes, same here. I have seven zones in my house.... there's no way I am ever buying any of this "smart home" crap!

For $199 plus the cost of a smart phone I'll come over and change the settings whenever you want.

BTW, I bit the bullet today and bought some tasteful mods for the Ford, a strut tower brace and a mild Borla cat-back exhaust. I had the strut brace on order since May and the 1-2 week delivery kept getting pushed back for months so I canceled. Now it's available in 1-2 days and surprise...only $20 more expensive! What a wonder.

oldfarmer50

Michaell said:

My wife is turning into Big Brother. The new house we bought had a Nest camera installed to view the front door and porch. She has since bought three more cameras - one for the main hallway, another for the living room, and a third for the back porch. Primarily to see what the dogs are up to when nobody is home, but it's creepy knowing she can watch me at certain points throughout the house, as I work from home.

We do have a programmable thermostat, but it's not a Nest. Still fiddling with the settings, even after being here a couple of months. I'm sure we will need to futz with it when winter comes, as well.

Maybe you're the "dog" she wants to keep an eye on.

Walk around in front of the camera enough in your underwear and she'll be pulling those spy cams down real quick.

Sandman6472

We keep the house between 76 and 78 but since the wife works from home three days a week, our cooling bills have been going up. It's been pretty hot/humid here and when the a/c screwed up a couple weeks back, it was a bit uncomfortable. But now it's working just fine and to be honest, anything under 76 and I'm cold!!
Our house is cbs so it retains the cool/cold weather for a few days. Luckily, this past winter was cool for us and the a/c was off a good deal of the time. Just like with the rainy season in full force, the sprinklers are in the off position and the lawn is a nice shade of green.

The Sandman

Michaell

stickguy said:

I don't think Doxies can eat that fast. A lab, well, that could do it.

Our house is totally dog proof. But, we did find out when one of them threw up the treat we gave them before leaving the house last night.

Michaell

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

My wife is turning into Big Brother. The new house we bought had a Nest camera installed to view the front door and porch. She has since bought three more cameras - one for the main hallway, another for the living room, and a third for the back porch. Primarily to see what the dogs are up to when nobody is home, but it's creepy knowing she can watch me at certain points throughout the house, as I work from home.

We do have a programmable thermostat, but it's not a Nest. Still fiddling with the settings, even after being here a couple of months. I'm sure we will need to futz with it when winter comes, as well.

Maybe you're the "dog" she wants to keep an eye on.

Walk around in front of the camera enough in your underwear and she'll be pulling those spy cams down real quick.

I have the same software on my phone. I can turn off the cameras whenever I want.

henryn

laurasdada said:

Heated seats in the Jag come in 3 levels:
1. Very hot
2. Death Valley (but it's a dry heat)
3. Global Thermo Nuclear War

Heated steering wheel, however, priceless.

Being a warm blooded type, I tend to ignore heated seats. When I was selling the Cadillac DeVille a few years back, people kept asking me if the heated seats work. My answer, "What do you care, we're in Texas." Turns out, they did work.

My favorite story about heated seats, which I've probably shared before. Shortly after I bought my 2015 F150 (very nicely equipped), I had a dinner date with a lovely young thing. When we were pulling away from the restaurant, she said something about feeling cold. I replied, "No problem, I'll turn on the heat."

Before I could do so, she said, "Never mind, I'll just turn on the heated seat."

I opened my mouth to tell her that my truck wasn't THAT fancy, but before I could get the words out, she had already turned on the heated seat. Sometimes it's a good idea to keep your mouth shut.

jmonroe

henryn said:

laurasdada said:

Heated seats in the Jag come in 3 levels:
1. Very hot
2. Death Valley (but it's a dry heat)
3. Global Thermo Nuclear War

Heated steering wheel, however, priceless.

Being a warm blooded type, I tend to ignore heated seats. When I was selling the Cadillac DeVille a few years back, people kept asking me if the heated seats work. My answer, "What do you care, we're in Texas." Turns out, they did work.

My favorite story about heated seats, which I've probably shared before. Shortly after I bought my 2015 F150 (very nicely equipped), I had a dinner date with a lovely young thing. When we were pulling away from the restaurant, she said something about feeling cold. I replied, "No problem, I'll turn on the heat."

Before I could do so, she said, "Never mind, I'll just turn on the heated seat."

I opened my mouth to tell her that my truck wasn't THAT fancy, but before I could get the words out, she had already turned on the heated seat. Sometimes it's a good idea to keep your mouth shut.

Does that apply to repeatedly talking about getting speeding tickets? Not you but somebody else we know.

jmonroe

venture

henryn said:

laurasdada said:

Heated seats in the Jag come in 3 levels:
1. Very hot
2. Death Valley (but it's a dry heat)
3. Global Thermo Nuclear War

Heated steering wheel, however, priceless.

Being a warm blooded type, I tend to ignore heated seats. When I was selling the Cadillac DeVille a few years back, people kept asking me if the heated seats work. My answer, "What do you care, we're in Texas." Turns out, they did work.

My favorite story about heated seats, which I've probably shared before. Shortly after I bought my 2015 F150 (very nicely equipped), I had a dinner date with a lovely young thing. When we were pulling away from the restaurant, she said something about feeling cold. I replied, "No problem, I'll turn on the heat."

Before I could do so, she said, "Never mind, I'll just turn on the heated seat."

I opened my mouth to tell her that my truck wasn't THAT fancy, but before I could get the words out, she had already turned on the heated seat. Sometimes it's a good idea to keep your mouth shut.

“Never miss a good chance to shut up.”

― Will Rogers

oldfarmer50

henryn said:

laurasdada said:

Heated seats in the Jag come in 3 levels:
1. Very hot
2. Death Valley (but it's a dry heat)
3. Global Thermo Nuclear War

Heated steering wheel, however, priceless.

Being a warm blooded type, I tend to ignore heated seats. When I was selling the Cadillac DeVille a few years back, people kept asking me if the heated seats work. My answer, "What do you care, we're in Texas." Turns out, they did work.

My favorite story about heated seats, which I've probably shared before. Shortly after I bought my 2015 F150 (very nicely equipped), I had a dinner date with a lovely young thing. When we were pulling away from the restaurant, she said something about feeling cold. I replied, "No problem, I'll turn on the heat."

Before I could do so, she said, "Never mind, I'll just turn on the heated seat."

I opened my mouth to tell her that my truck wasn't THAT fancy, but before I could get the words out, she had already turned on the heated seat. Sometimes it's a good idea to keep your mouth shut.

Now THAT'S a real Texas girl, knows her way around a pick up. Can she rope cattle as well? In the old days of F-150 bench seats telling you she was cold would be your signal to put your arm around her. Now, that dining room table center console prevents that.

tbirdmarco

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gXjGhhmxapw

tbirdmarco

 Good morning happy Friday. How is everything going with everyone? Hope that everyone has a good weekend still around I know I don’t post post things like this as much as I used to just to YouTube videos more than anything still reading everything though at least once a day still job hunting nothing on any of those couple of interviews I wanna hunt as of yet keeping positive though 

tbirdmarco

 Slowly cleaning up the Thunderbird vacuumed yesterday with the shop vac seats in the carpets which eventually have to replace the carpets they are coming up quite a bit on the drivers side but down the road also will probably wash it again tonight when the sun goes down so slowly cleaning it 

tbirdmarco

 Meeting with the state agency commission for the blind and visually impaired this afternoon again this time with the job placement guy so things are slowly moving along with that too 

isellhondas

Well, Good Luck to you!

tbirdmarco

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvebTqvD8tA

roadburner

tbirdmarco said:

 Meeting with the state agency commission for the blind and visually impaired this afternoon again this time with the job placement guy so things are slowly moving along with that too 

Best of luck!

tbirdmarco

 Thank you road runner and I sell Hondas went well today sucked work on interviewing skills a bit since I haven’t done it in so long I don’t see thought I did pretty good on the two interviews I went on last week in a few weeks prior but oh well it is what it is high seems cool he’s gonna do the job he supposed to do I’m also still gonna look on my own to as well you know what keep you all updated still currently working at the old job but it’s really coming to the end 

oldfarmer50

Is this a new trend?

Twice tonight I saw BMWs with all the badging removed. Of course you could tell it was a BMW by the wheel caps so why remove the identification?

One was a nice new 650 convertible and the other was an older 3 series.

ab348

Debadging has been a thing for a while with the younger go-fast set.

Not sure I understand why.

stickguy

it started with the people with the super hot rod models not wanting to advertise that (hustling suckers?). That goes back to the muscle car days.

and probably some people that are driving the base motor models that want to pretend they have more under the hoo.