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graphicguy

iluvmysephia1 said:

The car would be given a thorough check by a mechanic, as suydam says. I'd ask several questions and be there during the check, too. Like I say, 51,000 miles on a 2013 Focus ST at a price of $12,500 is a really good deal. I've done my research on the car.

As far as religion goes, a lot of false preachers **cough**cough** like Catholics **cough**cough** have not followed the word of God, yet they claim to be authorities on the word of God. There will be double the punishment for them. Know that is true. I trust in my faith and I trust in the living God. I know that what I believe, he also believes. Enough so that I trust this guy selling the Focus ST. Besides, I would get the car checked out first. And his used car dealership has a great reputation in town. He's been in the business 26 years.

Having said all that, the car could have a failure of an expensive part at any time after I buy it. Just a part of the car business.

Ummmmm....I’m going to take the high road on this one. However, @iluvmysephia1 I’m of the mind of letting bygones be bygones. Not going to type what I really think. I’ll just await my double punishment.

I’ll also take my punishment from Edmunds for sticking my toes into these waters.

About your car buying (or your TV buying for that matter)....Buy whatever, whenever, wherever you and your wife want. Just do something....or not. Right now, it’s all talk and no action....and has been for a long while.

snakeweasel

nyccarguy said:

people should have to know how to spell before being allowed to create memes.

I agree. People should learn how to spell. That one was actually the best of what I found on a quick search. I should have noticed though. I want to strangle people who put "sent from my iPhone. Please excuse any typos or grammatical errors." at the bottom of their emails.

I just blame Russian hackers.

suydam

I thought it was a joke.

fintail

It's a conspiracy against GM!

I saw a Malibu yesterday badged 2.0T Premier, never noticed one of those before.

imidazol97 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Careful, you'll cause more trouble here being critical of other people's religion than their politics.

Stick to slamming their car choices.

Especially if it's a GM model. LOL

X2 on the religion. Although these days I think politics has been made more polarized them religion topics with a couple exceptions.

I'm waiting to see if the 2019 Malibu remake will have all the safety features available with the normal engine. I don't want to have to buy the 2.0T to get automatic highway front braking, e.g..

fintail

Then do it. To paraphrase my grandma: something something or get off the pot

iluvmysephia1 said:

The car would be given a thorough check by a mechanic, as suydam says. I'd ask several questions and be there during the check, too. Like I say, 51,000 miles on a 2013 Focus ST at a price of $12,500 is a really good deal. I've done my research on the car.<

Having said all that, the car could have a failure of an expensive part at any time after I buy it. Just a part of the car business.

28firefighter

Here we go. 

stickguy

Politely requesting we get back to cars (and inanimate household items) and banish all religion talk to the cornfield where political debate went. Too personal, and there are plenty of other forums to discuss either one.

graphicguy

I....I....I want, so badly to....to....to respond to blatant, foolish ignorance. I won't.

What I will do is to take a break from these boards for a while. I don't think anyone really wants to read/hear the diatribe I want to launch!

driver100

ab348 said:

I have over $400 in rewards built up on a Superstore (Cdn grocery/general merchandise chain) account and am saving it to buy a new TV this winter. Sadly the screen on my my 10 y-o 46" Panasonic plasma seems to be getting dimmer and the resolution just isn't as sharp as the new sets. That Panasonic was $1500 back in 2008.

Be sure to get a Smart TV.

fintail

That went off the rails quickly, nice.

Speaking of TVs, I have a Samsung LED I bought almost 9 years ago, still virtually perfect. Not going to replace it til it wears out, no point, it's fine.

suydam

That is really awful. I can’t participate in a board that demeans someone’s religion.

qbrozen

Wow. That's all I got. But I learned, probably not long enough ago, that I can't change people's beliefs, so I just ignore them.

I had an incident just yesterday. It was day 4 of a 4-day, 40-hr martial arts bootcamp of sorts. We were diving a bit into the minds of terrorists and the mentally disturbed. I won't repeat some of the beliefs and misconceptions being spouted because I don't want to ignite such discussion here, but, as much as I wanted to jump up and stop the class to correct some, I decided it just isn't worth it and I'd rather they finish the segment so we could get back to training and learning the good stuff.

driver100

fintail said:

That went off the rails quickly, nice.

Speaking of TVs, I have a Samsung LED I bought almost 9 years ago, still virtually perfect. Not going to replace it til it wears out, no point, it's fine.

Fin, I wonder if a 9 year old TV is as good as you think it is? You get used to what you got. Did they have HD 9 years ago? You don't have all the latest SMART features. Maybe it is as good as a new one, but, maybe not.

nyccarguy

28firefighter said:

Here we go. 

"Dentists! Who needs 'em?" - J. Seinfeld

28firefighter

There are some days where I long for the discussions about speeding tickets. Today is one of them.

imidazol97

fintail said:

It's a conspiracy against GM!

I'm surprised you admit it. Works to my benefit purchase-wise. Last time the slow Malibu sales meant I got a great deal trading in a wonderful 1998 Buick LeSabre by GM

fintail said:

I saw a Malibu yesterday badged 2.0T Premier, never noticed one of those before.

The Premier replaced the LT2/LTZ. All have 2.0T. I just want a car that goes and gets good mileage, not that the 2.0T doesn't get good mileage compared to peers especially based on its power output. Essentially same 2.0T as in Cadillac ATS/CTS. Too much power for my needs or wants.

imidazol97

Prius fires. Wiring problems.
Wear in wiring harness. Shouldn't happen. But they'll put a piece of duct tape on the wear point and everyone
will be happy ever after? I would want the cable replaced and the protector put on.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2018/09/05/toyota-prius-recall-192-000-hybrid-vehicles-affected-wiring-issue/1199796002/

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

That went off the rails quickly, nice. Speaking of TVs, I have a Samsung LED I bought almost 9 years ago, still virtually perfect. Not going to replace it til it wears out, no point, it's fine.

Fin, I wonder if a 9 year old TV is as good as you think it is? You get used to what you got. Did they have HD 9 years ago? You don't have all the latest SMART features. Maybe it is as good as a new one, but, maybe not.

IIRC HDTV started in the late 90s so yes they had HD 9 years ago. As far as smart TVs go if it isn't and has a HDMI portal then all it takes is just to get a streaming stick and you have most of the functions of a smart TV.

ab348

driver100 said:

Be sure to get a Smart TV.

The smaller Sony I have in the basement (which I only watch while waiting for laundry to finish; it's there for the guest suite) is a smart TV but it really has nothing in its list of offerings that is of much use to me, since I don't have a Netflix account. I can muddle around on YouTube with it and that's about all. The smart Blu-Ray player I have upstairs offers more selections but it hopelessly bad at serving them up. I use it to watch MLB but it almost always freezes up, sometime multiple times during a game. Hopefully the newer tech is better.

ab348

Folks, just a reminder that there is a "flag" button at the bottom of posts to use if you see fit.

snakeweasel

imidazol97 said:

It's a conspiracy against GM!

I'm surprised you admit it. Works to my benefit purchase-wise. Last time the slow Malibu sales meant I got a great deal trading in a wonderful 1998 Buick LeSabre by GM

I saw a Malibu yesterday badged 2.0T Premier, never noticed one of those before.

The Premier replaced the LT2/LTZ. All have 2.0T. I just want a car that goes and gets good mileage, not that the 2.0T doesn't get good mileage compared to peers especially based on its power output. Essentially same 2.0T as in Cadillac ATS/CTS. Too much power for my needs or wants.

if fuel economy is your concern and you really don't care about acceleration then I would forgo the 2.0T. The top of the line Malibu with the 1.5 gets a little more that 10% better gas mileage and uses regular gas as opposed to premium for the 2.0T. not to mention saving several thousands on the MSRP.

ab348

imidazol97 said:

Prius fires. Wiring problems.
Wear in wiring harness. Shouldn't happen. But they'll put a piece of duct tape on the wear point and everyone
will be happy ever after?

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2018/09/05/toyota-prius-recall-192-000-hybrid-vehicles-affected-wiring-issue/1199796002/

Buyback time!

stickguy

Nah. Just send them all over to GG’s caddy dealer to fix.

jmonroe1

graphicguy said:

I....I....I want, so badly to....to....to respond to blatant, foolish ignorance. I won't.

What I will do is to take a break from these boards for a while. I don't think anyone really wants to read/hear the diatribe I want to launch!

I do. Better you than me and since you have more seniority than me you go first. What are the odds of that post making it through the day?

jmonroe

Mr_Shiftright

jmonroe1

suydam said:

That is really awful. I can’t participate in a board that demeans someone’s religion.

Consider the source.

jmonroe

fintail

Yep HD and it looks fine, not SMART, but it has multiple USB and HDMI, so my Fire stick works without issue. It also fits in my cabinet (which can only fit about a 42" max without looking weird). For the amount I watch it, it serves me well, and it hasn't had a single issue.

driver100 said:

Fin, I wonder if a 9 year old TV is as good as you think it is? You get used to what you got. Did they have HD 9 years ago? You don't have all the latest SMART features. Maybe it is as good as a new one, but, maybe not.

imidazol97

snakeweasel said:

imidazol97 said:

The Premier replaced the LT2/LTZ. All have 2.0T. I just want a car that goes and gets good mileage, not that the 2.0T doesn't get good mileage compared to peers especially based on its power output. Essentially same 2.0T as in Cadillac ATS/CTS. Too much power for my needs or wants.

if fuel economy is your concern and you really don't care about acceleration then I would forgo the 2.0T. The top of the line Malibu with the 1.5 gets a little more that 10% better gas mileage and uses regular gas as opposed to premium for the 2.0T. not to mention saving several thousands on the MSRP.


To stay on the cars. I'd like to have the full auto braking that's available on the Premier. Only a low speed auto braking is on the LT with the 1.6 T engine. I'll have to shop other brands to see if they have the same trap of having to take a different engine to get all the options--AND WITHOUT SUNROOF! Did I mention that? LOL


Have to see the options listing for 2019.

I figure I'll end up with an Acura. But the dealer is on the other side of town.

stickguy

And you will get a sunroof.

Can get safety stuff on an accord or legacy with a slick top if you want

PF_Flyer

We've done semi-official gatherings in the past. Might be fun to do again. (or scary...LOL)

oldfarmer50 said:

Just wondering how you edit posts under this new system. I noticed some typos and there is no edit button any more. Where did they move it?

There is no new system. Edit is right where it has been for years, click on that gear next to your post

fintail

It's a conspiracy!

You traded in the old car? I would have thought for something of that vintage, you'd do much better with a private sale. I helped my uncle sell his 98 LeSabre last year, it was gone in a few days.

I see Impala Premier now and then, mostly rentals.

imidazol97 said:

I'm surprised you admit it. Works to my benefit purchase-wise. Last time the slow Malibu sales meant I got a great deal trading in a wonderful 1998 Buick LeSabre by GM

The Premier replaced the LT2/LTZ. All have 2.0T. I just want a car that goes and gets good mileage, not that the 2.0T doesn't get good mileage compared to peers especially based on its power output. Essentially same 2.0T as in Cadillac ATS/CTS. Too much power for my needs or wants.

imidazol97

fintail said:

You traded in the old car? I would have thought for something of that vintage, you'd do much better with a private sale. I helped my uncle sell his 98 LeSabre last year, it was gone in a few days.

It was a quick decision. I had stopped putting maintenance money onto the 1998 at about 150K miles thinking I'd trade or sell it real cheap to someone wanting to put a little money into repairs on a car they picked up really cheaply for a car to drive to work, e.g..

The deal I got on the Malibu was too good to be true. Based on overhearing what was said in the sales booth next to me about the GM employee price, I got a price below that. The salesman was talking on the phone to someone who was asking about the prices compared to his pricing as GM employee or retiree.

roadburner

snakeweasel said:

IIRC HDTV started in the late 90s so yes they had HD 9 years ago. As far as smart TVs go if it isn't and has a HDMI portal then all it takes is just to get a streaming stick and you have most of the functions of a smart TV.

It's only been a few years since a few OLED TVs have been able to match the black levels of my 2008 Kuro Elite. Between my Roku stick and my Sony BD player I have access to almost any programming I want.

jmonroe

28firefighter said:

nyccarguy said:

I just bought a 55” TCL Roku TV for $369 @ Costco.

Some of those TCLs have picture quality that rivals the big boys that cost 3x the price. I’m going to be redoing my home office at some point soon and will likely pick one up. 

I told part of this back in January of this year when I bought a 50 inch Samsung Ultra HD, HDR Smart TV for the office to replace the aging but still working 37 inch Toshiba LCD that I got in late 2008. I replaced the Toshiba just because I wanted a larger TV for the office.

When I went looking for a 50 inch because that was as large as I felt the office could handle, I went to Best Buy. I personally consider Samsung and LG as equals and probably the best TV's but I had heard and read good things about TCL and was willing to look at one of those but Best Buy did not have one on display. They had them but not on display. While talking to the knowledgeable sales guy he also liked Samsung and LG and thought the OLED's were terrific. I liked both of the Samsung and LG none OLED jobs and settled for the Samsung because it had a center mounted stand vs. the 2 feet supports on the LG thereby not forcing me to wall mount the LG. The Samsung would fit on the stand I already had so it won out only for that reason not because I thought it had a better picture than the LG.

The sales guy thought the TCL was a good TV but mentioned that it didn't have the track record that Samsung and LG had but he couldn't prove the quality of the picture to me because they did not have one on display. When I asked how he knew the TCL had a good picture, he said a few of the sales guys set one up in the back just to see what it looked like. When I asked him to do it again for me he said he couldn't do that because the store manager would not allow it. Since we were going to Sam's right after I stopped at Best Buy I decided to look at Sam's to see if they had a TCL on display but they didn't even sell TCL's. However, Sam's had the exact Samsung for around $50 less than Best Buy so I bought it at Sam's. I guess I should thank Best Buy for allowing me to continue shopping since they saved me some money.

I can't prove this but it sure as hell looked like Samsung, LG and the other major brands bought shelf space that TCL, at the time, was not willing to spring for at Best Buy. I have no reason to go into Best Buy again just to see if they now have a TCL on display but I gather someone must have TCL's on display by now.

jmonroe

stickguy

I thought Walmart sold TCL. Cheap.

carnaught

Bought a TCL at Fry’s Electronics about four years ago. It is a Chinese TV, sourced and built there. I took out a five year warranty on it, and have not had any problems with it thus far. The picture on it is indeed quite good. The longevity on it remains to be seen.

driver100

graphicguy said:

I....I....I want, so badly to....to....to respond to blatant, foolish ignorance. I won't.

What I will do is to take a break from these boards for a while. I don't think anyone really wants to read/hear the diatribe I want to launch!

GG, Don't leave because of one poster. Don't give in to the illogical......just ignore it.

driver100

jmonroe said:

28firefighter said:

nyccarguy said:

I just bought a 55” TCL Roku TV for $369 @ Costco.

Some of those TCLs have picture quality that rivals the big boys that cost 3x the price. I’m going to be redoing my home office at some point soon and will likely pick one up. 

I told part of this back in January of this year when I bought a 50 inch Samsung Ultra HD, HDR Smart TV for the office to replace the aging but still working 37 inch Toshiba LCD that I got in late 2008. I replaced the Toshiba just because I wanted a larger TV for the office.

When I went looking for a 50 inch because that was as large as I felt the office could handle, I went to Best Buy. I personally consider Samsung and LG as equals and probably the best TV's but I had heard and read good things about TCL and was willing to look at one of those but Best Buy did not have one on display. They had them but not on display. While talking to the knowledgeable sales guy he also liked Samsung and LG and thought the OLED's were terrific. I liked both of the Samsung and LG none OLED jobs and settled for the Samsung because it had a center mounted stand vs. the 2 feet supports on the LG thereby not forcing me to wall mount the LG. The Samsung would fit on the stand I already had so it won out only for that reason not because I thought it had a better picture than the LG.

The sales guy thought the TCL was a good TV but mentioned that it didn't have the track record that Samsung and LG had but he couldn't prove the quality of the picture to me because they did not have one on display. When I asked how he knew the TCL had a good picture, he said a few of the sales guys set one up in the back just to see what it looked like. When I asked him to do it again for me he said he couldn't do that because the store manager would not allow it. Since we were going to Sam's right after I stopped at Best Buy I decided to look at Sam's to see if they had a TCL on display but they didn't even sell TCL's. However, Sam's had the exact Samsung for around $50 less than Best Buy so I bought it at Sam's. I guess I should thank Best Buy for allowing me to continue shopping since they saved me some money.

I can't prove this but it sure as hell looked like Samsung, LG and the other major brands bought shelf space that TCL, at the time, was not willing to spring for at Best Buy. I have no reason to go into Best Buy again just to see if they now have a TCL on display but I gather someone must have TCL's on display by now.

jmonroe

We want jmonroe1 back.
His posts were short and to the point.

btw....Walmart online:
TCL 55" Class 4K (2160P) Roku Smart LED TV (55S405)
Average rating:4.037out of5stars, based on81reviews81 reviews
TCLWalmart # 570061177
$379.99List $599.99
Free shipping
Arrives by Friday, Sep 14
Options
Free pickup Fri, Sep 14
Ships to San Leandro, 1919 Davis St
Options

driver100

imidazol97 said:

snakeweasel said:

imidazol97 said:

The Premier replaced the LT2/LTZ. All have 2.0T. I just want a car that goes and gets good mileage, not that the 2.0T doesn't get good mileage compared to peers especially based on its power output. Essentially same 2.0T as in Cadillac ATS/CTS. Too much power for my needs or wants.

I figure I'll end up with an Acura. But the dealer is on the other side of town

.

imid, did I read that right? You are considering an Acura?
You are like the spokesperson for GM. You can't leave, is nothing sacred? (oh yeh, don't want to go down that road)

fintail

My uncle had maintained his car very well, which no doubt helped it sell. I think it had no issues other than intermittent AC, which much of the year isn't a big deal around here. For just under 2K, someone got a decent enough work car.

Going to keep the Malibu too or trade it in?

imidazol97 said:

It was a quick decision. I had stopped putting maintenance money onto the 1998 at about 150K miles thinking I'd trade or sell it real cheap to someone wanting to put a little money into repairs on a car they picked up really cheaply for a car to drive to work, e.g..

The deal I got on the Malibu was too good to be true. Based on overhearing what was said in the sales booth next to me about the GM employee price, I got a price below that. The salesman was talking on the phone to someone who was asking about the prices compared to his pricing as GM employee or retiree.

oldfarmer50

PF_Flyer said:

We've done semi-official gatherings in the past. Might be fun to do again. (or scary...LOL)

oldfarmer50 said:

Just wondering how you edit posts under this new system. I noticed some typos and there is no edit button any more. Where did they move it?

There is no new system. Edit is right where it has been for years, click on that gear next to your post

Unfortunatly, not on the device I'm using. Yes, it`s been there for years but not any longer. That's why I asked. Very strange.

imidazol97

driver100 said:

imid, did I read that right? You are considering an Acura?

I'd have to go shop the various cars again like I've done since 2003 MY.

People have liked their Acuras and I'd have to study the options available. The negative is the store is a short trip across town. The folks that used to live across the street had Acuras but he bought them in Cincinnati or Columbus. Usually used. I like the premium interior described, although I haven't shopped one yet.

Also will check the Kia/Hyundai store. The local Tyota and Accord stores are nothing to brag about. I've seen a few Hyundai 80's and a couple of 90's. I might check out those as another premium vehicle like our Buicks used to be.

I told the owner of the local Chevy store that I didn't like the way Malibu is optioned to require the premium engine. The owner talks to customers in the wait room and the showroom. A real person, not fake like so many in their store commercials.

oldfarmer50

Just finished cleaning out the barn for the first time since I got rid of the Corvette. Need space for the convertible. Amazing how much junk collects. I don't know what posessed me to do it in 95 degree heat..

Any tips for keeping the mice out of the top and wiring? I covered the last car with mothballs, even filled the ashtray with them. It worked but the car smelled like grandma's closet for a week.

laurasdada

I believe Costco sells TCL tvs, too.

stickguy

oldfarmer50 said:

Just finished cleaning out the barn for the first time since I got rid of the Corvette. Need space for the convertible. Amazing how much junk collects. I don't know what posessed me to do it in 95 degree heat..

Any tips for keeping the mice out of the top and wiring? I covered the last car with mothballs, even filled the ashtray with them. It worked but the car smelled like grandma's closet for a week.

barn cats.

henryn

qbrozen said:

snakeweasel said:

explorerx4 said:v

Just watched a Motorweek episode where they tested a 2018 F150.
It had the 2.7 V6(4th engine on the horsepower list).
0-60 5.7 seconds, quarter mile 14.3 @99 mph. Wow!

Doesn't Edmund's give the more powerful 5.0 liter V8 at a 6.9 seconds 0 to 60?

Seeing it has a gross weight of about 3 tons I tend to find Edmund's more believable.

Plenty of reviewers have the 2.7 at under 6 secs. It is the reason I chose that engine.

and gross weight only matters when you max the payload, which isn't how they make 0-60 runs usually. The curb weight is 4500 lbs. Less than even my wife's minivan.


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


Remember, most of the body on that F150 is aluminum. And the 2.7L is a heck of an engine. Don't believe me? Go drive one. Prepare to be impressed.

tjc78

fintail said:

Then do it. To paraphrase my grandma: something something or get off the pot

The car would be given a thorough check by a mechanic, as suydam says. I'd ask several questions and be there during the check, too. Like I say, 51,000 miles on a 2013 Focus ST at a price of $12,500 is a really good deal. I've done my research on the car.<

Having said all that, the car could have a failure of an expensive part at any time after I buy it. Just a part of the car business.

My Grandmother said that all the time. 

imidazol97

Help needed:
I just saw a post in another topic here asking about a used car dealer who financed a car charging for over-miles on a car totaled in an accident. Is that possibly true?

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/52352/general/x/can-used-dealer-charge-over-mileage-on-a-financed-car

abacomike

iluvmysephia1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

The car would be given a thorough check by a mechanic, as suydam says. I'd ask several questions and be there during the check, too. Like I say, 51,000 miles on a 2013 Focus ST at a price of $12,500 is a really good deal. I've done my research on the car.

As far as religion goes, a lot of false preachers **cough**cough** like Catholics **cough**cough** have not followed the word of God, yet they claim to be authorities on the word of God. There will be double the punishment for them. Know that is true. I trust in my faith and I trust in the living God. I know that what I believe, he also believes. Enough so that I trust this guy selling the Focus ST. Besides, I would get the car checked out first. And his used car dealership has a great reputation in town. He's been in the business 26 years.

Having said all that, the car could have a failure of an expensive part at any time after I buy it. Just a part of the car business.

Careful, you'll cause more trouble here being critical of other people's religion than their politics. Stick to slamming their car choices.

I said what I did because the guy is in a religion, the only religion, I fully, completely, trust with all my heart, mind, soul and strength...mine. And since he's selling used cars, well, that means that I can trust him. I don't trust a Catholic, though . To be a Catholic means nothing spiritually to me, and, what's more, they haven't passed inspection with the Creator of all things. End of story. Molesting young boys is something despicable to God, and it's awful to me. To act like there will never be a decision day ahead means you don't care. And if you don't care, you need to do some serious thinking about your own silly self.

Iluv - you crossed the line of what is acceptable and what is not acceptable here on Edmunds.  Though I am not a Catholic nor an Edmunds moderator, I do forgive those who trespass- but not this time.

Drivingfool

Never talk about religion as it always ends badly. Ditto with politics. Thought everybody knew that in here!! But isn't Edmunds.com a car site or am I wrong here? Sometimes folks get too comfortable, like a family of sorts. Once that occurs, we sometimes don't think before we open our mouths. Once said, the topic can be forgiven but usually harder to forgive the unfortunate culprit who took their stupid pills this morning! Best thing to do is reset the conversation, a basic do over so to speak, and get back to talking about anything automotive, the real reason we come to Edmunds.com day after day after day!
Being tired, we let our guard down a bit but all is forgiven so onto the next car buying story!

Mr. Driving Fool