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stickguy

I don't like naked plates just looks odd to me in the back especially.

ab348

Congrats, @snakeweasel , that is a nice-looking car at what seems to be a very fair price. Might be a good idea to invest in a set of sheepskins or similar covers next summer to avoid being char-broiled on those black leather seats when the top is down.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

tjc78 said:

Congrats !! Snake.
You have a link to the car?

https://www.autonation.com/cars/WBA3V5C5XEP747751?utm_source=3534&utm_medium=1004&utm_campaign=*000001327*used&utm_campaign=deeplink&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=cars.com

Fabulous looking car. Be sure to get your own license plate holders....unless you like the Autonation pink ones. If you are having plates put on buy chrome ones ahead of time to take with.....if you buy them in their store they will be about $40.

They still have the plate holders from before they were bought by Autonation. They are black so we are going to have them put those on.

Now Driver I do have a question, since I have a BMW can I call other cars wannabes?

snakeweasel

stickguy said:

Driver, that is why they are keeping the Sebring. so the nice car can stay in the garage when it is snowy.

And you win the prize, here's your kewpie doll.

graphicguy

@snakeweasel ....oooooo.....nice car. Congrats to.......well.....the wife!

stickguy

That doll is creepy

pensfan83

Nice car @snakeweasel, enjoy in good health!

jmonroe1

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

tjc78 said:

Congrats !! Snake.
You have a link to the car?

https://www.autonation.com/cars/WBA3V5C5XEP747751?utm_source=3534&utm_medium=1004&utm_campaign=*000001327*used&utm_campaign=deeplink&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=cars.com

Fabulous looking car. Be sure to get your own license plate holders....unless you like the Autonation pink ones. If you are having plates put on buy chrome ones ahead of time to take with.....if you buy them in their store they will be about $40.

They still have the plate holders from before they were bought by Autonation. They are black so we are going to have them put those on.

Now Driver I do have a question, since I have a BMW can I call other cars wannabes?

Well, maybe but my Genny will always be the original wannabe.

jmonroe

imidazol97

Do those license plate holders have to be registered with the car's central command system?

qbrozen

Finally got my butt to the DMV to register the Chevy. Was trying to hold out for Charger title to do both at once, but that is taking too long.

Anyway, it seems they change their methods every darned time I’m here. Used to be you stand in line. Then they went to electronic numbers flashed on an LED sign. Then to electronic numbers listed on an LCD like the train station. Then we did away with all of that and opted to have a receptionist give you the forms and direct you to a window. That method got me in and out the absolute fastest. Now I come here today and the receptionist gives you the forms but then tells me to come see her when complete. I do that and she gives me a deli ticket. WTF?! We’ve gone backwards like 3 iterations. Been here for 30 mins and they are nowhere near my number.

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

Congrats, @snakeweasel , that is a nice-looking car at what seems to be a very fair price. Might be a good idea to invest in a set of sheepskins or similar covers next summer to avoid being char-broiled on those black leather seats when the top is down.

I find black leather in a convertible comes in handy when the temps are a little bit too cold to have the top down. Then you appreciate the warming effect. As long as the sun is out I can drive comfortably down into the low 60s.

I wouldn’t leave your car in the sun when it’s 90 though.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

Finally got my butt to the DMV to register the Chevy. Was trying to hold out for Charger title to do both at once, but that is taking too long.

Anyway, it seems they change their methods every darned time I’m here. Used to be you stand in line. Then they went to electronic numbers flashed on an LED sign. Then to electronic numbers listed on an LCD like the train station. Then we did away with all of that and opted to have a receptionist give you the forms and direct you to a window. That method got me in and out the absolute fastest. Now I come here today and the receptionist gives you the forms but then tells me to come see her when complete. I do that and she gives me a deli ticket. WTF?! We’ve gone backwards like 3 iterations. Been here for 30 mins and they are nowhere near my number.

Do I notice a longer list of cars under your post or have I just been unobservant?

ab348

oldfarmer50 said:

Do I notice a longer list of cars under your post or have I just been unobservant?

Try to keep up, OF. With some of the folks in here you need to buy a program to know what's in play on any given day. :laughing:

stickguy

The DMV office by me is usually packed and can take a while. Registration stuff usually is quicker than licenses.

tjc78

I have one in my town. It's usually not too bad early in the day. Recently I went to the Turnersville location at lunchtime for a new license and was in and out in under 30 minutes.

ab348

Our DMV is pretty bad too, typical govt customer service, which is to say, not much. We can do registration renewals online which is a godsend, but licenses and registration transfers need to be done in person.

driver100

stickguy said:

Driver, that is why they are keeping the Sebring. so the nice car can stay in the garage when it is snowy.

Forgot about that. Isn't that like having plastic sheets on your chairs? You need an extra car for when it snows. Personally, I don't like living that way.....use what you have, when it wears out replace it. Costs more in money, time and energy to keep an extra car on the road for certain weather conditions. But, that is just me!

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

tjc78 said:

Congrats !! Snake.
You have a link to the car?

https://www.autonation.com/cars/WBA3V5C5XEP747751?utm_source=3534&utm_medium=1004&utm_campaign=*000001327*used&utm_campaign=deeplink&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=cars.com

Fabulous looking car. Be sure to get your own license plate holders....unless you like the Autonation pink ones. If you are having plates put on buy chrome ones ahead of time to take with.....if you buy them in their store they will be about $40.

They still have the plate holders from before they were bought by Autonation. They are black so we are going to have them put those on.

Now Driver I do have a question, since I have a BMW can I call other cars wannabes?

Welcome to the club, now you are driving "The Real Thing", not one of those Trying to Be wannabes.

Michaell

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

Driver, that is why they are keeping the Sebring. so the nice car can stay in the garage when it is snowy.

Forgot about that. Isn't that like having plastic sheets on your chairs? You need an extra car for when it snows. Personally, I don't like living that way.....use what you have, when it wears out replace it. Costs more in money, time and energy to keep an extra car on the road for certain weather conditions. But, that is just me!

Says the guy who has a spare car in Florida to use in the winter...

:laughing:

stickguy

tjc78 said:

I have one in my town. It's usually not too bad early in the day. Recently I went to the Turnersville location at lunchtime for a new license and was in and out in under 30 minutes.

Yours is the one I go to!

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

Congrats, @snakeweasel , that is a nice-looking car at what seems to be a very fair price. Might be a good idea to invest in a set of sheepskins or similar covers next summer to avoid being char-broiled on those black leather seats when the top is down.

I find black leather in a convertible comes in handy when the temps are a little bit too cold to have the top down. Then you appreciate the warming effect. As long as the sun is out I can drive comfortably down into the low 60s.

I wouldn’t leave your car in the sun when it’s 90 though.

Might be able to have the top down in cooler temps, the seats and steering wheel are heated and and there are vents just under the head rests to blow warm air onto you.

nyccarguy

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

Congrats, @snakeweasel , that is a nice-looking car at what seems to be a very fair price. Might be a good idea to invest in a set of sheepskins or similar covers next summer to avoid being char-broiled on those black leather seats when the top is down.

I find black leather in a convertible comes in handy when the temps are a little bit too cold to have the top down. Then you appreciate the warming effect. As long as the sun is out I can drive comfortably down into the low 60s.

I wouldn’t leave your car in the sun when it’s 90 though.

Might be able to have the top down in cooler temps, the seats and steering wheel are heated and and there are vents just under the head rests to blow warm air onto you.

That heated steering wheel is the best invention. I had it on my 2011 BMW 328xi & LOVED it!

ab348

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

Congrats, @snakeweasel , that is a nice-looking car at what seems to be a very fair price. Might be a good idea to invest in a set of sheepskins or similar covers next summer to avoid being char-broiled on those black leather seats when the top is down.

I find black leather in a convertible comes in handy when the temps are a little bit too cold to have the top down. Then you appreciate the warming effect. As long as the sun is out I can drive comfortably down into the low 60s.

I wouldn’t leave your car in the sun when it’s 90 though.

Might be able to have the top down in cooler temps, the seats and steering wheel are heated and and there are vents just under the head rests to blow warm air onto you.

The worst part is the air blasting on the back of your head/neck/shoulders it you don't have a wind deflector. Dunno if the 4-series comes with one but you might want to get one.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

Driver, that is why they are keeping the Sebring. so the nice car can stay in the garage when it is snowy.

Forgot about that. Isn't that like having plastic sheets on your chairs? You need an extra car for when it snows. Personally, I don't like living that way.....use what you have, when it wears out replace it. Costs more in money, time and energy to keep an extra car on the road for certain weather conditions. But, that is just me!

May not need the extra car but it's nice to have just in case. It's pretty much fully depreciated so it wont lose any more value, it does little for me to trade it in and I only have to have liability insurance on it. So the additional cost of keeping it is minimal.

qbrozen

oldfarmer50 said:

qbrozen said:

Finally got my butt to the DMV to register the Chevy. Was trying to hold out for Charger title to do both at once, but that is taking too long.

Anyway, it seems they change their methods every darned time I’m here. Used to be you stand in line. Then they went to electronic numbers flashed on an LED sign. Then to electronic numbers listed on an LCD like the train station. Then we did away with all of that and opted to have a receptionist give you the forms and direct you to a window. That method got me in and out the absolute fastest. Now I come here today and the receptionist gives you the forms but then tells me to come see her when complete. I do that and she gives me a deli ticket. WTF?! We’ve gone backwards like 3 iterations. Been here for 30 mins and they are nowhere near my number.

Do I notice a longer list of cars under your post or have I just been unobservant?

you must have blinked. Well, it may be longer, but ... if you add up my '08 and '10, they equal the '18 I replaced.

tjc78

stickguy said:

tjc78 said:

I have one in my town. It's usually not too bad early in the day. Recently I went to the Turnersville location at lunchtime for a new license and was in and out in under 30 minutes.

Yours is the one I go to!

Lol.. I guess I’ve gotten lucky !

stickguy

I thought a heated steering wheel was a silly gimmick. Until I used the one on my sonata. I miss it on the TLX.

tjc78

My wife loves it... both cars have it now. She is in heaven.

Volvo has the rear heated seats too, I'm sure whoever rides back there will enjoy that!

stickguy

Sonata had that too. My daughter loved it (she is always could). she would cover with a blanket and crank them up and roast.

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

Congrats, @snakeweasel , that is a nice-looking car at what seems to be a very fair price. Might be a good idea to invest in a set of sheepskins or similar covers next summer to avoid being char-broiled on those black leather seats when the top is down.

I find black leather in a convertible comes in handy when the temps are a little bit too cold to have the top down. Then you appreciate the warming effect. As long as the sun is out I can drive comfortably down into the low 60s.

I wouldn’t leave your car in the sun when it’s 90 though.

Might be able to have the top down in cooler temps, the seats and steering wheel are heated and and there are vents just under the head rests to blow warm air onto you.

The worst part is the air blasting on the back of your head/neck/shoulders it you don't have a wind deflector. Dunno if the 4-series comes with one but you might want to get one.

I don’t ever recall that being a problem although I can see it happening in a small two seater. Whatever wind buffeting I’ve experienced is refreshing.

snakeweasel

ab348 said:

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

Congrats, @snakeweasel , that is a nice-looking car at what seems to be a very fair price. Might be a good idea to invest in a set of sheepskins or similar covers next summer to avoid being char-broiled on those black leather seats when the top is down.

I find black leather in a convertible comes in handy when the temps are a little bit too cold to have the top down. Then you appreciate the warming effect. As long as the sun is out I can drive comfortably down into the low 60s.

I wouldn’t leave your car in the sun when it’s 90 though.

Might be able to have the top down in cooler temps, the seats and steering wheel are heated and and there are vents just under the head rests to blow warm air onto you.

The worst part is the air blasting on the back of your head/neck/shoulders it you don't have a wind deflector. Dunno if the 4-series comes with one but you might want to get one.

Yes it comes with one, stows behind the back seat.

explorerx4

Snake,
Congrats to you and your wife on the new car. I hope it's a great fall, so there will be many opportunities to drop the top.

carnaught

@snakeweasel. sharp car. Congrats!

BTW, you can negotiate the Autonation otd price. I'm not sure about all of them but that was the case when I bought my '19 TAH.

snakeweasel

carnaught said:

@snakeweasel. sharp car. Congrats!

BTW, you can negotiate the Autonation otd price. I'm not sure about all of them but that was the case when I bought my '19 TAH.

My understanding is that they have used cars as one price but will negotiate new cars. I did check some sources on car values and did determine that the price was low. Their OTD price was less that what Kelly Blue Book has as a typical listing price, so I believe the deal is good. That's not to say I didn't try.

28firefighter

snakeweasel said:

carnaught said:

@snakeweasel. sharp car. Congrats!

BTW, you can negotiate the Autonation otd price. I'm not sure about all of them but that was the case when I bought my '19 TAH.

My understanding is that they have used cars as one price but will negotiate new cars. I did check some sources on car values and did determine that the price was low. Their OTD price was less that what Kelly Blue Book has as a typical listing price, so I believe the deal is good. That's not to say I didn't try.

This is correct. Negotiate new, no haggle used.

roadburner

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

Congrats, @snakeweasel , that is a nice-looking car at what seems to be a very fair price. Might be a good idea to invest in a set of sheepskins or similar covers next summer to avoid being char-broiled on those black leather seats when the top is down.

I find black leather in a convertible comes in handy when the temps are a little bit too cold to have the top down. Then you appreciate the warming effect. As long as the sun is out I can drive comfortably down into the low 60s.

I wouldn’t leave your car in the sun when it’s 90 though.

The 4er droptops have a special coating on the leather that keeps it cooler.

driver100

Michaell said:

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

Driver, that is why they are keeping the Sebring. so the nice car can stay in the garage when it is snowy.

Forgot about that. Isn't that like having plastic sheets on your chairs? You need an extra car for when it snows. Personally, I don't like living that way.....use what you have, when it wears out replace it. Costs more in money, time and energy to keep an extra car on the road for certain weather conditions. But, that is just me!

Says the guy who has a spare car in Florida to use in the winter...

:laughing:

The Florida car is a necessity. How would we get around once we fly there? My wife doesn't like the 2 1/2 day drive each way any more. No surplus cars around.

driver100

snakeweasel said:

carnaught said:

@snakeweasel. sharp car. Congrats!

BTW, you can negotiate the Autonation otd price. I'm not sure about all of them but that was the case when I bought my '19 TAH.

My understanding is that they have used cars as one price but will negotiate new cars. I did check some sources on car values and did determine that the price was low. Their OTD price was less that what Kelly Blue Book has as a typical listing price, so I believe the deal is good. That's not to say I didn't try.

They are pretty rigid about their pricing. I did get an extra $200 for our Passat trade-in, but our salesman said he was very surprised they did that.

Michaell

driver100 said:

Michaell said:

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

Driver, that is why they are keeping the Sebring. so the nice car can stay in the garage when it is snowy.

Forgot about that. Isn't that like having plastic sheets on your chairs? You need an extra car for when it snows. Personally, I don't like living that way.....use what you have, when it wears out replace it. Costs more in money, time and energy to keep an extra car on the road for certain weather conditions. But, that is just me!

Says the guy who has a spare car in Florida to use in the winter...

:laughing:

The Florida car is a necessity. How would we get around once we fly there? My wife doesn't like the 2 1/2 day drive each way any more. No surplus cars around.

Guess I don't see it that way.

You have 2 extra cars for 5 months of the year, and 1 extra car for the other 7.

stickguy

not sure what it costs to own the spare car (insurance, maintenance, etc.) but another option is to just ship one of your regular ones down in the fall and back in the spring.

Michaell

stickguy said:

not sure what it costs to own the spare car (insurance, maintenance, etc.) but another option is to just ship one of your regular ones down in the fall and back in the spring.

There you go!

Selling the C class would fund multiple years of that plan

28firefighter

stickguy said:

not sure what it costs to own the spare car (insurance, maintenance, etc.) but another option is to just ship one of your regular ones down in the fall and back in the spring.

My grandmother and late grandfather did that for years. My grandmother still ships her car back and forth.

I have to wonder if there is additional complication moving a car across the border though.

driver100

stickguy said:

not sure what it costs to own the spare car (insurance, maintenance, etc.) but another option is to just ship one of your regular ones down in the fall and back in the spring.

Good idea.....fair bit of logistics though. There are delivery services which will bring our car to Florida, on a transport truck or a driver. I think the big problem is timing, we get to the Florida place and starve while waiting for the car to arrive.

I think we do it this way because it is more convenient, and if we can afford to do it, why not live as enjoyably as we can...it works. Besides, I like having a different car for a few months, and the cars at home should last a lot longer....in fact I won't have to trade any of them if I don't want to...for about 10 more years.

Snake could theoretically keep his Sebring on the road, but, Mrs S would like a nicer newer car. If he can manage it...why not do it?

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

not sure what it costs to own the spare car (insurance, maintenance, etc.) but another option is to just ship one of your regular ones down in the fall and back in the spring.

Good idea.....fair bit of logistics though. There are delivery services which will bring our car to Florida, on a transport truck or a driver. I think the big problem is timing, we get to the Florida place and starve while waiting for the car to arrive.

I think we do it this way because it is more convenient, and if we can afford to do it, why not live as enjoyably as we can...it works. Besides, I like having a different car for a few months, and the cars at home should last a lot longer....in fact I won't have to trade any of them if I don't want to...for about 10 more years.

Snake could theoretically keep his Sebring on the road, but, Mrs S would like a nicer newer car. If he can manage it...why not do it?

While in college in the 70's my sister and her friends used to travel the country in the summer by driving peoples cars from point A to point B. Sounds good until you realized 6 hippies drove your car cross country.

My plan is to drive the other two cars as long as I can then replace them with just one reasonable car. So frome now on it's going to be one real nice car and one commuter/grocery getter in the garage.

ab348

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

Congrats, @snakeweasel , that is a nice-looking car at what seems to be a very fair price. Might be a good idea to invest in a set of sheepskins or similar covers next summer to avoid being char-broiled on those black leather seats when the top is down.

I find black leather in a convertible comes in handy when the temps are a little bit too cold to have the top down. Then you appreciate the warming effect. As long as the sun is out I can drive comfortably down into the low 60s.

I wouldn’t leave your car in the sun when it’s 90 though.

The 4er droptops have a special coating on the leather that keeps it cooler.

So did the Edmunds 2 series convertible, but even with leather that wasn't black, it was a bit of an issue:

https://www.edmunds.com/bmw/2-series/2015/long-term-road-test/2015-bmw-m235i-swampy-seats.html

oldfarmer50

Rant of the day.

Yesterday as I pulled out of a convenience store in comes a nice Honda Civic type R which parks in the handicapped spot right in front of a sign that says “no parking”. Out comes a strapping young fellow early 30s whose only apparent handicap was lack of morals.

Visions of keys on paint briefly flashed.

abacomike

stickguy said:

not sure what it costs to own the spare car (insurance, maintenance, etc.) but another option is to just ship one of your regular ones down in the fall and back in the spring.

That's what "REAL SNOWBIRDS" do. The car carriers are starting to arrive here now in my condo community. Most common plates are NY NJ PENN ILL. The Quebec/Ontario plates usually arrive in November.

I read somewhere that there is a possibility that Canadians will be able to stay longer here in the US to escape cold and snow - the issue still remains health coverage.

tjc78

I don't like the idea of a car sitting that long... I think I'd ship it back and forth (or maybe just one way and drive the other)

qbrozen

stickguy said:

not sure what it costs to own the spare car (insurance, maintenance, etc.) but another option is to just ship one of your regular ones down in the fall and back in the spring.

Well, as I mentioned previously, my insurance for 2 cars is lower than it was for the one. Maintenance is a non-issue, IMHO, since it is based on mileage and you aren't driving more miles just because you are spreading it over 2 or more vehicles. OK, sure, you might say "I drive so little that I'd have to change the oil in both once a year no matter what," to which I have to say "will 1 extra oil change a year really make or break the deal?"

stickguy

Driver situation is different though. Only the Florida car is on the policy in the US I assume.

I also would not want my car sitting unattended for 5 months like that, but maybe that’s just me! I don’t like leaving them for a week when we go on a trip!