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jmonroe

bwia said:

My Japanese domestic market RAV4 is expected to arrive in the Caribbean on January 1 after a little over eight weeks and 8,000+ miles since ordering it. Funny thing, it comes with a built-in GPS but everything is in Japanese. Either I learn Japanese quickly or I will have to put a piece of duct tape over the screen. But more pragmatically, is it possible to switch the language function to English like you guys can in Canada or Mexico?

By the way, it still hasn't rained here in three weeks and daily temperatures range from 72 - 85 degrees; and believe or not, this is supposed to be the rainy season. Nothing wrong with that but perhaps that is too much of a good thing.

Well, if you didn't rub it in again about the weather, you could have gotten some help. :@

jmonroe

dino001

bwia said:

My Japanese domestic market RAV4 is expected to arrive in the Caribbean on January 1 after a little over eight weeks and 8,000+ miles since ordering it. Funny thing, it comes with a built-in GPS but everything is in Japanese. Either I learn Japanese quickly or I will have to put a piece of duct tape over the screen. But more pragmatically, is it possible to switch the language function to English like you guys can in Canada or Mexico?

By the way, it still hasn't rained here in three weeks and daily temperatures range from 72 - 85 degrees; and believe or not, this is supposed to be the rainy season. Nothing wrong with that but perhaps that is too much of a good thing.

So why did you do it at the first place? Best case scenario, there is a language change function, but it is JDM vehicle made by a domestic company, so if is possible there is not one. If the OS is flashable, then it should be relatively easy to do, but I suspect it may not be as simple and involve either a full unit replacement, or at least some chips. You may also need to find some good indy garage. I doubt dealer would touch it, but there are some Fast and Furious crowd may do it, or know who would

jmonroe

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:

Garbage disposal is installed. A couple of bumps along the way, had to have my wife hold the upper collar so I could put the snap ring on. Took less than a minute.
The other issue was that I had to buy a new pipe to connect the non disposer sink to the drain, about $6.
Previous one was too short with the new unit.
So far, no leaks.

That collar thing is the hardest part. You would think if they can get a man to the moon they could design a collar so that one person could fit it on - easily.

I've done it by myself a few times. However, there is no law that says you can't use the old one, they are universal between manufacturers. Do you really care that the name on the old one says Kenmore and the new disposal is an Insinkerator ?

jmonroe

driver100

dino001 said:

bwia said:

My Japanese domestic market RAV4 is expected to arrive in the Caribbean on January 1 after a little over eight weeks and 8,000+ miles since ordering it. Funny thing, it comes with a built-in GPS but everything is in Japanese. Either I learn Japanese quickly or I will have to put a piece of duct tape over the screen. But more pragmatically, is it possible to switch the language function to English like you guys can in Canada or Mexico?

By the way, it still hasn't rained here in three weeks and daily temperatures range from 72 - 85 degrees; and believe or not, this is supposed to be the rainy season. Nothing wrong with that but perhaps that is too much of a good thing.

So why did you do it at the first place? Best case scenario, there is a language change function, but it is JDM vehicle made by a domestic company, so if is possible there is not one. If the OS is flashable, then it should be relatively easy to do, but I suspect it may not be as simple and involve either a full unit replacement, or at least some chips.

Bwia, even my 2014 C250 that doesn't have a back up camera (in case you didn't know) can give the temperature in Celsius or Fahrenheit.....but, Japanese to English .....I have my doubts. Did you try youtube, there are some talented guys who can do all sorts of things.....some can even install a backup camera in a Mercedes.

fintail

I've seen Japanese market MBs with early nav systems (1999 era) that lacked other language options. Maybe Toyota is different, might depend on the age of the car.

tjc78

Go Eagles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

28firefighter

Whew! Go birds!

explorerx4

Turns out my installation was not all blue skies and puppy dogs.
After a coupe of hours, my wife noticed it was leaking.
Looked like leaking from the sink gasket area.
Took it back apart and the snap ring wasn't completely seated.
Seated it and put it back together and seems ok now.
Not sure if my wife would want mismatched collar and disposer.
jmonroe, you should have spoken up about that earlier, might have saved me some work. HAHA.

jmonroe

explorerx4 said:

Turns out my installation was not all blue skies and puppy dogs.
After a coupe of hours, my wife noticed it was leaking.
Looked like leaking from the sink gasket area.
Took it back apart and the snap ring wasn't completely seated.
Seated it and put it back together and seems ok now.
Not sure if my wife would want mismatched collar and disposer.
jmonroe, you should have spoken up about that earlier, might have saved me some work. HAHA.

Don't blame me, you didn't ask. But does it really matter now? You just said your wife wouldn't want a mismatch of collar and disposal. The only thing I can say about that is, start working on her now for the next time. Look at it like this; maybe all is not lost for our other poster buddies in here. Live and learn.

jmonroe

explorerx4

@jmonore,
Disposers usually last a while, so at this point in my life, I'm not sure there will be a next time.

driver100

explorerx4 said:

Turns out my installation was not all blue skies and puppy dogs.
After a coupe of hours, my wife noticed it was leaking.
Looked like leaking from the sink gasket area.
Took it back apart and the snap ring wasn't completely seated.
Seated it and put it back together and seems ok now.
Not sure if my wife would want mismatched collar and disposer.
jmonroe, you should have spoken up about that earlier, might have saved me some work. HAHA.

See what I mean, that snap ring can be a real problem. Surely they could devise an easier way to hook that thing up.
Is the collar the ring part in the sink, that is where the drain is? When we bought the place Mrs D had the stainless steel sink removed and a white sink put in, obviously with a white drain.
Local handyman puts in garbage disposal unit, and uses the chrome drain they supplied with it, one sink has a white drain, one with GDU has a chrome one! :@
His words were "I thought you would like to have the brand new one put on".
Didn't have the heart to tell him, when my B-I-L installed the dishwasher he put the white drain back on.

jmonroe

explorerx4 said:

@jmonore,
Disposers usually last a while, so at this point in my life, I'm not sure there will be a next time.

For your sake I hope you're right but if they take the reliability route of other appliances lately, remember where you heard it.

jmonroe

Sandman6472

Good news, our oldest has set a wedding date. 10/10/20 either in Margate Florida or Orlando. A Saturday night wedding at sundown once shabbat is over. A nondenominational one but we insisted on it starting once shabbas is over. Just don't feel it can be on a Saturday day. Sunday would be a better day since it is Columbus Day weekend but this is what they both want. Knew this day was coming but still, our oldest girl whom I'm extremely close with. Luckily we have three nice kids, my wife did an outstanding job on them all!

abacomike

Sandman6472 said:

Good news, our oldest has set a wedding date. 10/10/20 either in Margate Florida or Orlando. A Saturday night wedding at sundown once shabbat is over. A nondenominational one but we insisted on it starting once shabbas is over. Just don't feel it can be on a Saturday day. Sunday would be a better day since it is Columbus Day weekend but this is what they both want. Knew this day was coming but still, our oldest girl whom I'm extremely close with. Luckily we have three nice kids, my wife did an outstanding job on them all!

Congrats to the couple and to you!

driver100

They do have a backup camera that works on batteries:
The backup camera that works on any car with no wiring needed is under $100 for the first time....install in 60 seconds.
My only problem is you need a Smart phone. I have a SP but don't have data, since I only make about 2 calls a month on it

bwia

driver100 said:

dino001 said:

bwia said:

My Japanese domestic market RAV4 is expected to arrive in the Caribbean on January 1 after a little over eight weeks and 8,000+ miles since ordering it. Funny thing, it comes with a built-in GPS but everything is in Japanese. Either I learn Japanese quickly or I will have to put a piece of duct tape over the screen. But more pragmatically, is it possible to switch the language function to English like you guys can in Canada or Mexico?

By the way, it still hasn't rained here in three weeks and daily temperatures range from 72 - 85 degrees; and believe or not, this is supposed to be the rainy season. Nothing wrong with that but perhaps that is too much of a good thing.

So why did you do it at the first place? Best case scenario, there is a language change function, but it is JDM vehicle made by a domestic company, so if is possible there is not one. If the OS is flashable, then it should be relatively easy to do, but I suspect it may not be as simple and involve either a full unit replacement, or at least some chips.

Bwia, even my 2014 C250 that doesn't have a back up camera (in case you didn't know) can give the temperature in Celsius or Fahrenheit.....but, Japanese to English .....I have my doubts. Did you try youtube, there are some talented guys who can do all sorts of things.....some can even install a backup camera in a Mercedes.

@driver, you are so insightful. I checked YouTube as you suggested and there are several simple instructional videos to convert Japanese language GPS settings to English. What would Mrs. D do without you.

To all the others who contributed thanks for your input. Much appreciated. What I learned in my short research is to download a Google foreign language translator app for your smart phone. That way you can make easy work of Japanese and Chinese technical instructions.

driver100

Thanks bwia, anything I have been able to fix I have done it through Youtube....it is the reason for my success in life.
Glad you found a solution.

driver100

I sometimes mention I am surprised by the number of drivers in Florida who crash into store windows or restaurants. Then I hear this story on the news this morning;

Florida leads the way when it comes to vehicles crashing into buildings


A rash of vehicle crashes into bay-area businesses is raising concerns and a volunteer organization that tracks statistics said it happens more in Florida than in most other states.

A volunteer organization that tracks statistics for storefront vehicle crashes said it happens a lot in Florida.

According to the Storefront Safety Council, Florida only accounts for 10% of all U.S. drivers, but accounts for 17% of all storefront vehicle crashed in America.

It’s a dangerous phenomenon.

tjc78

I was at a show last year with various store fixture vendors. Their was one vendor that was showing their new line of bollards that you put in front of your building to help protect the store front.

In my group there was a buyer from a major retailer that said their stores get driven into sometime several times a week!

At my previous employer we had a few driven into but only 3 or 4 times that I know of. The stores that are the most vulnerable are stores where you can pull up to the front. Our stores were largely in bigger centers where there was a travel lane in front of the store.

Michaell

tjc78 said:

I was at a show last year with various store fixture vendors. Their was one vendor that was showing their new line of bollards that you put in front of your building to help protect the store front.

In my group there was a buyer from a major retailer that said their stores get driven into sometime several times a week!

At my previous employer we had a few driven into but only 3 or 4 times that I know of. The stores that are the most vulnerable are stores where you can pull up to the front. Our stores were largely in bigger centers where there was a travel lane in front of the store.

This is disconcerting to read.

The kids cooking studio we have has head in parking right in front of it. Someone mistakes the gas for the brake and we're in big trouble.

Probably doesn't help that there is a liquor store next door.

driver100

There should be a sign......Only people who are accident free should be allowed to use those parking spaces. I wonder how many of those are caused by someone putting the gear into Drive, instead of Reverse?

The guy who drove at full speed into the terminal at Bradenton airport was stopped, by a counter made of concrete, otherwise the person behind the counter would have been hit.

ab348

When I worked for the liquor board here we had a big mix of stores, some with pull-in parking out front, others without, but all of them were equipped with some pretty stout bollards out front, especially in front of the entranceways. We were a popular target for theft, everything from the casual petty shoplifter, to organized groups that stole stuff to order on behalf of certain people or unscrupulous licensees, to ones that thought a big caper after hours would net them a truckload of booze, which they would get by driving a stolen vehicle through the front wall (what could possibly go wrong?).

Between the bollards, reinforced walls adjacent to vehicle lanes, glass coated with a special anti-penetration film, and surveillance and alarm systems that were pretty sophisticated, we had a very low rate of loss.

driver100

I was thinking after, even just very high and heavy cement blocks would probably stop most cars...at least tear out the oil pan or something before they got too far.

pensfan83

This happened yesterday at a shopping center 15 minutes from us. Thankfully the bank was closed. It's the second time in a year a car went through a storefront in that plaza. Last time it was a hair salon.

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2019/12/29/car-into-bank-brentwood-towne-square/

jmonroe

driver100 said:

I was thinking after, even just very high and heavy cement blocks would probably stop most cars...at least tear out the oil pan or something before they got too far.

Are you serious? Do you really think that tearing out an oil pan is going to stop a car that is in motion? If you drain all the oil from a car in your driveway it will run for at least several minutes before it seizes. Believe it or not some people have actually done that, dealers too, although not intentionally and the car even got to the grocery store miles away with no oil. Go to U Tube and prove it to yourself. So, I'd much prefer something that stops the car, like reinforced concrete pillars than creating a slippery mess with oil all over the sidewalk.

Oh yeah, you did say, "or something", so maybe what I said is what you meant.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

Sandman6472 said:

Good news, our oldest has set a wedding date. 10/10/20 either in Margate Florida or Orlando. A Saturday night wedding at sundown once shabbat is over. A nondenominational one but we insisted on it starting once shabbas is over. Just don't feel it can be on a Saturday day. Sunday would be a better day since it is Columbus Day weekend but this is what they both want. Knew this day was coming but still, our oldest girl whom I'm extremely close with. Luckily we have three nice kids, my wife did an outstanding job on them all!

I’m sure you did a good job too. Congrats.

oldfarmer50

pensfan83 said:

This happened yesterday at a shopping center 15 minutes from us. Thankfully the bank was closed. It's the second time in a year a car went through a storefront in that plaza. Last time it was a hair salon.

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2019/12/29/car-into-bank-brentwood-towne-square/

My sister-in-lawwho has MS gave up driving after her leg spasmed on the gas pedal and she took the corner off the bank she was visiting. I suspect that a lot of those accidents have a similar cause.

driver100

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

I was thinking after, even just very high and heavy cement blocks would probably stop most cars...at least tear out the oil pan or something before they got too far.

Are you serious? Do you really think that tearing out an oil pan is going to stop a car that is in motion? If you drain all the oil from a car in your driveway it will run for at least several minutes before it seizes. Believe it or not some people have actually done that, dealers too, although not intentionally and the car even got to the grocery store miles away with no oil. Go to U Tube and prove it to yourself. So, I'd much prefer something that stops the car, like reinforced concrete pillars than creating a slippery mess with oil all over the sidewalk.

Oh yeah, you did say, "or something", so maybe what I said is what you meant.

jmonroe

I actually knew that, but one day I did see a lady who went forward, probably didn't know there was a cement block in front of her car, she went up it and it came down on the oil pan......oil was leaking out and her car was stuck up on the block....couldn't move forward or back....but, that was from a standing start.

Either we are hearing about these stories more or they are happening more.....maybe as the boomers get older!

fintail

Oh, you might irk the sensitive with that last bit

My grandpa had an incident like that, with a rental car in Hawaii of all places. Foot "slipped", car hit a convenience store. Yes, he bought the optional insurance. I think he was in his 60s then, and was always an extraordinarily cautious driver, even when I was a little kid I could tell the difference between him and my parents more relaxed style. My mom is an early run boomer, in her 70s now, and her walking has slowed a lot more than her driving.

I doubt boomers will drive worse than their predecessors, but as there is such a horde of them, I am absolutely certain we will see more weird incidents, especially in retirement areas.

driver100 said:

Either we are hearing about these stories more or they are happening more.....maybe as the boomers get older!

driver100

fintail Posts: 48,673
7:26PM
Oh, you might irk the sensitive with that last bit

48000+ posts....twice as many as me!
I don't think anyone should be overly sensitive...I am firmly a member of that group. Most of the boomers I know are probably better...meaning safer drivers than a lot of the young guys who just have to get to where they are going as fast as possible. But, when things go wrong boomers cause more than their fair share of bizarre incidences...usually the gas instead of the brakes.

Today we went to St Petes for dinner. No one goes the speed limit on I-75, which is 70, most are going 80 to 85, some faster. Lots of weaving in and out to get a few cars ahead....some go into the right lane then cut back into the left trying to get one or two cars ahead.

On the main road along St Petes Beach it is 2 lanes each way. I have to be in the left lane to turn into Spinners, a revolving restaurant. Twice cars that were following me closely saw a chance to go to the right and squeeze into the space in front of me, only to veer into a turning lane a little further ahead...I pass them on the right as they wait to turn, doing their fancy driving made absolutely no difference. They act like ignorant pigs and get no further.......WHY???????????

imidazol97

driver100 said:

Place must not be very good: there's no one eating there.

I was always told that the truck stops and diners with vehicles and people there were the ones to stop out. I tried that out when I first drove to Charleston back in the 70s.

Revolving restaurant? I recall the Hyatt Regency in Atlanta long, long ago.

Michaell

I think the last (only?) revolving restaurant I ate at was the CN Tower in Toronto.

28firefighter

The last revolving restaurant I ate at was at Disney World in 1994. I promptly tossed my cookies due to motion sickness.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

fintail Posts: 48,673
7:26PM
Oh, you might irk the sensitive with that last bit

48000+ posts....twice as many as me!
I don't think anyone should be overly sensitive...I am firmly a member of that group. Most of the boomers I know are probably better...meaning safer drivers than a lot of the young guys who just have to get to where they are going as fast as possible. But, when things go wrong boomers cause more than their fair share of bizarre incidences...usually the gas instead of the brakes.

Today we went to St Petes for dinner. No one goes the speed limit on I-75, which is 70, most are going 80 to 85, some faster. Lots of weaving in and out to get a few cars ahead....some go into the right lane then cut back into the left trying to get one or two cars ahead.

On the main road along St Petes Beach it is 2 lanes each way. I have to be in the left lane to turn into Spinners, a revolving restaurant. Twice cars that were following me closely saw a chance to go to the right and squeeze into the space in front of me, only to veer into a turning lane a little further ahead...I pass them on the right as they wait to turn, doing their fancy driving made absolutely no difference. They act like ignorant pigs and get no further.......WHY???????????

Wish I knew about that place. My wife and I enjoy revolving restaurants. We never got further south than John’s Pass. Do you need reservations?

oldfarmer50

28firefighter said:

The last revolving restaurant I ate at was at Disney World in 1994. I promptly tossed my cookies due to motion sickness.

That’s odd as they usually turn so slowly that you can’t really notice. Maybe you were just eating your churro while riding the tea cups.

jmonroe

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

Place must not be very good: there's no one eating there.

I was always told that the truck stops and diners with vehicles and people there were the ones to stop out. I tried that out when I first drove to Charleston back in the 70s.

Revolving restaurant? I recall the Hyatt Regency in Atlanta long, long ago.

Back in the early '80's when we went to Disney World and Epcot, I remember a revolving restaurant at Epcot. I can't remerber the name but it was something like the Turning World. Almost like being on a very sloooow merry-go-round. My young son's thought that was cool. Food was blah but not cheap.

jmonroe

jmonroe

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

fintail Posts: 48,673
7:26PM
Oh, you might irk the sensitive with that last bit

48000+ posts....twice as many as me!
I don't think anyone should be overly sensitive...I am firmly a member of that group. Most of the boomers I know are probably better...meaning safer drivers than a lot of the young guys who just have to get to where they are going as fast as possible. But, when things go wrong boomers cause more than their fair share of bizarre incidences...usually the gas instead of the brakes.

Today we went to St Petes for dinner. No one goes the speed limit on I-75, which is 70, most are going 80 to 85, some faster. Lots of weaving in and out to get a few cars ahead....some go into the right lane then cut back into the left trying to get one or two cars ahead.

On the main road along St Petes Beach it is 2 lanes each way. I have to be in the left lane to turn into Spinners, a revolving restaurant. Twice cars that were following me closely saw a chance to go to the right and squeeze into the space in front of me, only to veer into a turning lane a little further ahead...I pass them on the right as they wait to turn, doing their fancy driving made absolutely no difference. They act like ignorant pigs and get no further.......WHY???????????

Wish I knew about that place. My wife and I enjoy revolving restaurants. We never got further south than John’s Pass. Do you need reservations?

Well, at that place, I'd say NO.

jmonroe

cdnpinhead

La Ronde in Edmonton was my local revolving restaurant when I lived there, and I visited it a number of times later on business trips from Vancouver (after I moved). It was good then, and apparently still is, based on the internet search I just performed. Nice views and good food -- hard to beat, especially on an expense account.

ab348

driver100 said:

I actually knew that, but one day I did see a lady who went forward, probably didn't know there was a cement block in front of her car, she went up it and it came down on the oil pan......oil was leaking out and her car was stuck up on the block....couldn't move forward or back....but, that was from a standing start.

Either we are hearing about these stories more or they are happening more.....maybe as the boomers get older!

Back around 1985 my dad who was in his mid-60s at the time did exactly that. He didn't realize there was a cement parking curb in front of him and went to drive forward out of the space. It took out the oil pan on his newish Dodge Aries wagon but he quickly realized what had happened and had the car towed so no further damage ensued.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

fintail Posts: 48,673
7:26PM
Oh, you might irk the sensitive with that last bit

48000+ posts....twice as many as me!
I don't think anyone should be overly sensitive...I am firmly a member of that group. Most of the boomers I know are probably better...meaning safer drivers than a lot of the young guys who just have to get to where they are going as fast as possible. But, when things go wrong boomers cause more than their fair share of bizarre incidences...usually the gas instead of the brakes.

Today we went to St Petes for dinner. No one goes the speed limit on I-75, which is 70, most are going 80 to 85, some faster. Lots of weaving in and out to get a few cars ahead....some go into the right lane then cut back into the left trying to get one or two cars ahead.

On the main road along St Petes Beach it is 2 lanes each way. I have to be in the left lane to turn into Spinners, a revolving restaurant. Twice cars that were following me closely saw a chance to go to the right and squeeze into the space in front of me, only to veer into a turning lane a little further ahead...I pass them on the right as they wait to turn, doing their fancy driving made absolutely no difference. They act like ignorant pigs and get no further.......WHY???????????

Wish I knew about that place. My wife and I enjoy revolving restaurants. We never got further south than John’s Pass. Do you need reservations?

Reservations are recommended but not necessary on regular days. Lunch menu is in effect from 11 until 4 p.m., best to arrive by 3:30 or so, after 4 dinner pricing is in affect and it is much more expensive. The lunch prices are moderately higher than regular restaurants but the place is really special.....makes for a really special meal. The food is excellent too, which isn't always the case in revolving restaurants, as food is usually prepared on the 1st floor, and then comes up. Tripadvisor reviews are excellent.....it is hidden away a bit on the main strip but we have friends who love to meet there, and it is an exceptional experience.

If you go to John's Pass this is probably only about 10 to 15 minutes further South.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

28firefighter said:

The last revolving restaurant I ate at was at Disney World in 1994. I promptly tossed my cookies due to motion sickness.

That’s odd as they usually turn so slowly that you can’t really notice. Maybe you were just eating your churro while riding the tea cups.

The center area stays, areas like the bar and welcome desk. The outer edge with the tables is the part that moves. If you stare at the tiles...some are moving and some are staying...that could cause you to get disoriented.
I heard of people putting their purse or something on the ledge, which in some places doesn't move....and by the time they realize it their purse has gone half way around.

On this one the outer windows are stationary, and as you move you see signs with an arrow telling you how many miles to Cairo, Toronto, Vancouver, Mexico City etc. Interesting, because if you drive from Toronto, it would be 1500 miles, on their sign it is less than 1200....but, that is as the crow flies.

abacomike

It's gotten to the point where I have to replace the front tires on my S450 once again. I've been checking around and the best pricing I can get, so far, including balancing and installation is $750 - that's for two (2) tires only.

Pirelli P-Zero Run Flats - 245/40 R20 99Y XL is the exact tire size. Anyone have a suggestion on how to beat that price?

stickguy

Buy a corolla instead.

tjc78

abacomike said:

It's gotten to the point where I have to replace the front tires on my S450 once again. I've been checking around and the best pricing I can get, so far, including balancing and installation is $750 - that's for two (2) tires only.

Pirelli P-Zero Run Flats - 245/40 R20 99Y XL is the exact tire size. Anyone have a suggestion on how to beat that price?

They are $336 each on Tire Rack, so that's not an awful price installed.

tjc78

dino001

abacomike said:

It's gotten to the point where I have to replace the front tires on my S450 once again. I've been checking around and the best pricing I can get, so far, including balancing and installation is $750 - that's for two (2) tires only.

Pirelli P-Zero Run Flats - 245/40 R20 99Y XL is the exact tire size. Anyone have a suggestion on how to beat that price?

Go to Costco, if you still have the membership. Nobody beats their prices for like models after all is included. If you want runflats, check out Bridgestone Driveguards, if they have the size - that's my go-to tire now. I also had Pirelli runflats, don't remember which model exactly on mine. Driveguards are quieter and more durable in general. I think Costco also offers a Michelin tires, I'd check what they have for you, too. Costco always rotates $70-$100+ rebate for all four tires between Michelin and Bridgestone, usually in two or three month cycles.

stickguy

A 320 treadlife? No wonder putting a set on 2x on a lease, with a 3rd likely at the end!

dino001

That's right. I'd go with all-season touring tires rather than uhp summer, they usually have 450+ treadwear index with very little loss of peak traction.

roadburner

dino001 said:

That's right. I'd go with all-season touring tires rather than uhp summer, they usually have 450+ treadwear index with very little loss of peak traction.

I put the Z rated Pilot Sport A/S 3+ on the Club Sport; a 500 treadwear rating and more than enough grip for that car.

driver100

abacomike said:

It's gotten to the point where I have to replace the front tires on my S450 once again. I've been checking around and the best pricing I can get, so far, including balancing and installation is $750 - that's for two (2) tires only.

Pirelli P-Zero Run Flats - 245/40 R20 99Y XL is the exact tire size. Anyone have a suggestion on how to beat that price?

Lots of used tire places up our way.......